The World is only 7000 years old

I'm sometimes stunned how people can think the world/universe is only 7000 years old....

The scientific proof is everywhere. Fossils? Geology? Carbon Dating?

Just looking through a telescope proves that the whole universe is billions of years old. Light takes millions of years to reach us from most stars. If the universe is 7000 years old, How can we see the stars?


So is the distance of the stars calculation based on the speed of light, or is the age of the stars based on that? Everything we know is based on assumptions that may not prove to be true.


It doesn't matter which - age or distance.

I will try to simplify this becasue people do not understand what I am trying to say.

If light-speed is constant through a Vaccuum (I have no reason to believe otherwise), then we can calculate the time and distance from stars to our planet.

If we use red-shifting to determine the distance of an example star, say 1,000,000 (1 million) Light Years, then it is a fact that the light travelling from that star takes 1 million years to reach our planet.

If we can see this star then 1 million years has passed in our universe beacause the light was created 1 million years ago, the travels through space for 1 million years and we see the image of a star today.

This only proves that the universe is this old, not the planet.

The problem I have with you religious wackos is that you believe your God is exclusive to your religion and your's only. How can you believe words from a book confined to this planet? If a God does exist and I believe it does, I imagine the words of this God are far greater and outreaching then only planet earth.

When one considers the Drake Equation to justify life on other planets, one can realize the potential for life in the vast expanse of the universe. By many Christians beliefs, if you do not proclaim to accept Jesus as the Son of God and your personal savior, you will burn in hell. Does that apply to a being on a distant planet that has never read our bible?

God is far greater then the sum of Christianity or Islam or Catholicism. Once some of you realize this, then you will finally experience what it is like to be free.

I thought 6000 yrs old is what these wackos believe. Now we are up to 7000? Well that's progress, people.

Keep talking. Maybe we can get them up to 4 billion eventually.

Well done on getting the degree (soon). Something I would like to do myself. Can you explain then how you verify a 4.6 billion year old earth?

It has to be, how can a piece of rock or a skull be descibed as a 'million years old' or whatver, it would be less than dust by that time span.... discuss please.

I'm sometimes stunned how people can think the world/universe is only 7000 years old....

The scientific proof is everywhere. Fossils? Geology? Carbon Dating?

Just looking through a telescope proves that the whole universe is billions of years old. Light takes millions of years to reach us from most stars. If the universe is 7000 years old, How can we see the stars?


Carbon dating is a human creation and therefore flawed. They even argue over the dating of the Turin shroud now,

And the universe may be billions of years in existence, because time is of no consequence to the Creator, Earth is 7000 years old. I ask again, rocks cannot last for a million or a billion years, no way.

I thought 6000 yrs old is what these wackos believe. Now we are up to 7000? Well that's progress, people.

Keep talking. Maybe we can get them up to 4 billion eventually.


Go on then smart arse. Show me your proof of a 4.64 billion year old earth. Or is that just what you've been told? Can you post evidence without googling?

I'm sometimes stunned how people can think the world/universe is only 7000 years old....

The scientific proof is everywhere. Fossils? Geology? Carbon Dating?

Just looking through a telescope proves that the whole universe is billions of years old. Light takes millions of years to reach us from most stars. If the universe is 7000 years old, How can we see the stars?


So is the distance of the stars calculation based on the speed of light, or is the age of the stars based on that? Everything we know is based on assumptions that may not prove to be true.


It doesn't matter which - age or distance.

I will try to simplify this becasue people do not understand what I am trying to say.

If light-speed is constant through a Vaccuum (I have no reason to believe otherwise), then we can calculate the time and distance from stars to our planet.

If we use red-shifting to determine the distance of an example star, say 1,000,000 (1 million) Light Years, then it is a fact that the light travelling from that star takes 1 million years to reach our planet.

If we can see this star then 1 million years has passed in our universe beacause the light was created 1 million years ago, the travels through space for 1 million years and we see the image of a star today.

This only proves that the universe is this old, not the planet.


But if they were created at the same time in space and are travelling away then the light will always have been here. Also, you can't calculate distance with only C

Ridiculous point. You are buckling under the weight of science again. You can't say there is life out there just because some equation deems it likely. That is totally twisted logic. If there is life out there then we have no way of knowing who or what they worship, if anything. Maybe

Religion is a human creation and therefore flawed..............After reading a few posts in this thread, I can easily understand why the world is in such bad shape. Religion: the downfall of man.
Religion: the curse of mankind.
Religion: produces idiots with idiotic notions
Religion: the creation of monotheism and all its curses perpetrated upon mankind.

science is a human creation and therefore flawed

science is a human creation and therefore flawed

science is/was not "created".
the definition of science:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

man created religious books and religions, those were created to further control and enslave the people and to give more power and physical might to the wealthy and mighty ones.

you religious nuts are evil bastards who don't want to wake up...mindless and evil sheeps.

Carbon dating is a human creation and therefore flawed. They even argue over the dating of the Turin shroud now,

Carbon dating is a human creation and therefore flawed. They even argue over the dating of the Turin shroud now,





You say carbon dating is a human creation - so it is flawed. BUT the bible was a human creation - so it is also flawed....

DUHHH...

Suck my dick, OP.


My magnifying glass is broken, sorry. Get a life if you can't contribute.


No really, suck my dick.


Go get a vacuum cleaner, I'm sure thats what you normally use. Troll.

Sure, the earth is billions of years old, and soon, 12 foot tall aliens will be landing on earth, to tell you they are extraterrestrials.
Whatever it takes to prove there is no God.
If one is blind, then they cannot see. Words do not create light for the blind, only the Spirit can do that.
If one is adamantly against the truth, no amount of light will illuminate them.
In an absolute, there is no way one can prove the age of the earth, one way or another. I can't prove it is 6983 years old, but I can't prove without an absolute doubt, that the earth is 20 billion years old either. It is what somebody takes faith in.
It is simply a choice of the mind.
When you die, you will go where you choose to follow.



So what you're saying is: Nothing can be absolutely proven.



According to some of the oldest writings known to men, there were people who thought just as you pretend to.

The earth split open, water gushed out and all of them were killed horribly.

There's a lesson there for you personally.


If this is meant to scare me, I can assure you it didn't work. I believe the flood happened, but not on such a grand scale, plus the Ark is nonsense (unless they kept DNA somehow with lost ancient knowledge). I believe it happened and I believe it killed a lot of people. But innocent people died too, believers died too.

When was the last time you heard of unexplainable things happening to 'bad' people? Probably this flood was the last time.

In my experience, it seems the 'bad' people dont get any worse treatment throughout their life than the devote belivers who do everything 'right'

I want to do what is best for the Species of Humans that are my family. I want to be a moral person who cares for others, but I don't need a reward like eternal life to be good. I think it is the end when my brain dies. But I am not sad, I am happy becasue I saw this life and was conscious of myself. I was and I am.


I doubt you'll feel the same way when you're about to die.
The one thing they don't tell you and the one thing always forgotten is that regardless of whether or not you'll be back... death is the most awful thing one can ever experience.

You say my comments do not scare you. That's fine. Similar comments did not scare people in Noah's time, but you can rest assured that when they heard the Earth's crust ripping, when it all wouldn't stop, and when they saw the sky end -- in a matter of moments -- they experienced the kind of fear not often repeated.

It's a kind of fear so potent -- it is risidual. It survives without the memory of death because death itself is not retained in the ethereal engram.

If I were you I would pray that my aloof and irreverent denials, my determined and deliberate opposition, my wicked suppression of truth -- does not result in a very sudden and very present reminder of a past trauma, because there aren't many effective ways to describe what I mean.


Please do not tell me how I will feel before I die. I think I would be inhuman if I did not feel human emotions. Yes I feel fear of dying, but no fear of Hell, or excitement of Heaven. I accept that it is the end when I die, for all things.

If you can call me all those things, Wicked, aloof and opposed then what are you? Yes I am standing by my beliefs, I am looking at the facts laid out before me and I am choosing the most acceptable to me. I am trying to explain how my thinking works to you all. And I think I am right.


I'm telling you how you will feel when you die because it is the way others who have spoken like you felt before they were ended.

You have a callous and ugly policy which amounts to nothimg more than rejection of truth.

This why your death will be as horrible as can be arranged.


You must be a sad person inside to wish such horror on a person.


No. I'm just a person who believes in justice.


And what, exactly, did I do wrong that deserves death in the most horrible way as can be arranged? Do all non-believers deserve this fate?


You are reasonably intelligent and yet you choose to ignore all that is obvious in favor of abject lies and untruths. Furthermore, you actively deploy these untruths and you do it in such a way so as to appear reasonable. This is most despicable.

You deny people the opportunity to return to the father.

There can only be adverse consquences for you.



'return to the father' so he is not here with you? the contradictions within your religion leave me unable to believe.

You want me to be 'ended' and you think it will be in a rather bad way.

What happened to your 'Love thy neighbour' Commandment?

Dont you see that religions seperate the species of Homo Sapiens? It is the main cause of wars and death, yet you call it a beautiful thing.

Suck my dick, OP.


My magnifying glass is broken, sorry. Get a life if you can't contribute.


No really, suck my dick.


Go get a vacuum cleaner, I'm sure thats what you normally use. Troll.


Says the person who claims the Earth is only 7000 years old. Fuggoudahear rookie. Learn2life.

Oh, and suck my dick, bitch.

Carbon dating is a human creation and therefore flawed. They even argue over the dating of the Turin shroud now,





You say carbon dating is a human creation - so it is flawed. BUT the bible was a human creation - so it is also flawed....

DUHHH...

Praise The Holy Of Holy :: Written by Men , dictated by the Holy spirit !!

The striking me as most alarming in all of this is your incessant propensity to lie. Don't you possess a concscience?

It is when I consider the reality that individuas like you are at large, that they educate children, that they create broadcast material... any doubts about the validity of reorts about a great Satan vanish.


You should be happy there is no God. Because if there was odds are you would be worshiping the wrong one, and in his fit of jealous rage he would send you to hell to be tortured forever.

Because he loves you.

Remember, GOD needs MONEY.

However if you object to the speed of light (c), then I suggest you cash out of our society, and bang some rocks together on some tech denying commune.

Clearly your rejection of medicine and technology doesn't stop a hypocrite like yourself from using them.

I'm laughing at your "morality" while you use the tools of "Satan".

The striking me as most alarming in all of this is your incessant propensity to lie. Don't you possess a concscience?

It is when I consider the reality that individuas like you are at large, that they educate children, that they create broadcast material... any doubts about the validity of reorts about a great Satan vanish.


You should be happy there is no God. Because if there was odds are you would be worshiping the wrong one, and in his fit of jealous rage he would send you to hell to be tortured forever.

Because he loves you.

Remember, GOD needs MONEY.

However if you object to the speed of light (c), then I suggest you cash out of our society, and bang some rocks together on some tech denying commune.

Clearly your rejection of medicine and technology doesn't stop a hypocrite like yourself from using them.

I'm laughing at your "morality" while you use the tools of "Satan".


Actually I do object to the speed of light - it is no longer a constant but can be variable.

"Researchers in Switzerland have succeeded in breaking the cosmic speed limit by getting light to go faster than, well, light."

[link to www.livescience.com]

Also the speed of light may be slowing down?

"Evidence suggesting that the velocity of light, c, has been slowing down throughout history was first reported by Barry Setterfield and Trevor Norman for some years. (2) Now two physicists-Dr. Joao Magueijo, a Royal Society research fellow at Imperial College, London, and Dr. Andreas Albrecht, of the University of California at Davis-are proposing that, immediately after the universe was born, the speed of light may have been far faster than its present-day value of 186,000 miles per second. (3 )They now believe that it has been slowing down ever since. The effects predicted by their theory are to be published in the prestigious scientific journal, Physical Review. "If it's true, it would be a very big leap forward that will affect our perception of the universe and much of theoretical physics," said Dr. Magueijo."

[link to ldolphin.org]

Let's face it - we really know NOTHING and our science is based in pure conjecture where everyone tries to mould the evidence to fit their theories. This has been going on for centuries, millenia and our scientists today are no different.

So how do you religious fanatic's explain the movement of the continents? Just wondering..

Carbon dating is a human creation and therefore flawed. They even argue over the dating of the Turin shroud now,





You say carbon dating is a human creation - so it is flawed. BUT the bible was a human creation - so it is also flawed....

DUHHH...

Praise The Holy Of Holy :: Written by Men , dictated by the Holy spirit !!


Thank you Wing-Ed, answered for me.

That's BS because our Hopi Prophecy tablets have been carbon dated between 50 & 60 thousand years old.
The earth is billions of years old.
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We knew before scientist checked, how old those tablets are.
The Bible is a fucking joke and a half.

Those that believe this shit are the wingnuts that brainwashed me for almost 20 years while growing up attending a strict, albeit, hypocritical southern baptist school.

It took me along time to rid myself of the hold these wackos had on me.

At 29 I decided to go back to school last year and am a year away from graduating with a Geology degree.

I now have no doubt that the Earth is at least 4.6 billion years old. Science has taught me this and has allowed me to learn the methods to verify it.

You religious wackos took half of my life away from me, for that I will always be resentful.

I'm just lucky I woke up and discovered the truth before it was to late, unlike some around these here parts.