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------- Who knows? Does SAGE get rid of grey hair?

 
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------- Who knows? Does SAGE get rid of grey hair?
Chemical hair dyes must go... too dangerous!!! Anyone have any expertise here? thanks!
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you have to make a really strong tea of it. i dont know how dark it will get and tho it will build up over time, you will have to keep reapplying it. its good for your scalp too.
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I read it was a copper deficiency. Research that OP.
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I fail to see how accountancy software has any impact on hair color - unless it reduces the stress of tax returns...
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intresting thread op .
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I read it was a copper deficiency. Research that OP.
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Thanks for the copper idea...

and to the rest of you also!! Sage, copper... hmmmmmmm
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Severely allergic to all hair dyes. Salt and pepper hair - will check into this and the copper thing. thanks.
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whats wrong with grey hair ???
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whats wrong with grey hair ???
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Nothing... on men.
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Covering Gray Hair Recipe
Homemade Hair Dye
By Purdue University
1.

Wash your hair with one of the following rinses. Pour the selected rinse through your hair 15 times, re-rinsing with the same liquid. On the final rinse, wring hair, and leave for 15 minutes before rinsing with clear water.


Covering Gray: Simmer 1/2 cup dried sage in 2 cups water for 30 minutes, then steep for several hours. Apply to hair and leave on until dried. Then rinse and dry. Repeat weekly, until desired shade, then monthly to maintain color.

*****************

2.

SAGE. I am sure you know that it is a healing herb and it relaxes as a tea. In a bath, it smells good and eases my breathing.

I make a strong 'tea' of Sage and a bit of Rosemary, strain it and refrigerate it, and before I wash my hair, I spray it on the base of the grey patches of hair, even have massaged it in. leave it for 5 - ten minutes and then wash as usual, and care for my hair as I normally do. After a few weeks of this (I do this almost daily), the grey is disappearing.



After using the sage the normal coloring returns to the hair. It is not a 'color-change' shocker, and it softens and allows me to control the curls, and the amount of grey. I have used this through the years and it has never damaged my hair. I stop using it and the grey gradually returns and it is even pretier than the time before.

My sister was totally grey headed and after a month of daily using this solution, she had her normal light brown hair. which she had not seen for over ten years, and she dabbs it on once or twice a week now to keep her normal color, and she is 40. I am 48 and do not want to be grey just yet.

***************
3.

To make a strong rosemary & sage tea use equal amounts of rosemary & sage to 1 cup of water, combine ingredients and steep for 10 minutes, strain and use liquid for the colorant.


NOTE: These processes must be repeated daily for a few weeks before you notice any changes.
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Kombucha tea drinking makes my hair gradually return to dark, if I do it regularly for 6 months or so. It has come back in in multicolors, and thicker and healthier.
It is white/grey with little dark, but after 5 weeks, it is beginning to darken from the back to forward.
The theory is that the K. heals the area of the intestines where melanin is produced.
It may also be that it draws copper from the tea, now that you mention copper....
I would advise against taking copper as a supplement, such as the kind Twinlab makes.
Its a heavy metal, and bad news in that high concentrate.
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I read it was a copper deficiency. Research that OP.
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yes

... and henna is a natural hair color, and with other herbs added will make several colors...
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yes, but you have to insert it rectally.
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People in theri 60's and 70's who converted to a 100% RAW Vegan diet had pure white hair turn back to the original color in 1-2 years.
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Be careful with henna, I had a friend who was allergic to it, she had very bad reactions to it, her face swelled up, her eyes swelled shut and she couldn't breathe, had to go to the emergency room.

One time it was just from using a towel that someone else had used after they applied henna.
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Technically, hair doesn't go grey, it goes from pigmented to white one follicle at a time.
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I read it was a copper deficiency. Research that OP.


Thanks for the copper idea...

and to the rest of you also!! Sage, copper... hmmmmmmm
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 413758

hmmmmmmmmm
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whats wrong with grey hair ???


Nothing... on men.
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I'm a woman, and I beg to differ. NO ONE looks good grey. No one wants to fuck Grandpa.
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Premature grey hair is caused by insuffient UV exposure of the scalp for caucasians.

Hair color is actually skin pigment coated onto an essentially colorless (white) hair strand that grows out of the scalps hair follicles.

The pigment, called melanin, is produced by melanocytes (special cells) in the scalp (skin). The melanocytes are UV sensitive, the process is very similiar to getting a tan (on the skin). The main difference is the amount and duration of UV exposure on the scalp required to reactivate the pigmentation production in hair follicle melanocytes.

This will vary by ethnicity (i.e. genetics).

Cut the hair short (to allow more UV through) and get outside without a cap or hat during UV windows.

It's all about balance, and most people agree with that, until they actually have to change their behavior (avoiding UV to prevent cancer/skin damage) to achieve it.

Sigh.
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Premature grey hair is caused by insuffient UV exposure of the scalp for caucasians.

Hair color is actually skin pigment coated onto an essentially colorless (white) hair strand that grows out of the scalps hair follicles.

The pigment, called melanin, is produced by melanocytes (special cells) in the scalp (skin). The melanocytes are UV sensitive, the process is very similiar to getting a tan (on the skin). The main difference is the amount and duration of UV exposure on the scalp required to reactivate the pigmentation production in hair follicle melanocytes.

This will vary by ethnicity (i.e. genetics).

Cut the hair short (to allow more UV through) and get outside without a cap or hat during UV windows.

It's all about balance, and most people agree with that, until they actually have to change their behavior (avoiding UV to prevent cancer/skin damage) to achieve it.

Sigh.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 297411


I beg to differ. A better theory is mineral imbalance. Animal studies have found that the zinc to copper ratio must be optimal to prevent loss of hair color. I think I read somewhere that the optimal ratio is 5 to 1, zinc to copper.
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Premature grey hair is caused by insuffient UV exposure of the scalp for caucasians.

Hair color is actually skin pigment coated onto an essentially colorless (white) hair strand that grows out of the scalps hair follicles.

The pigment, called melanin, is produced by melanocytes (special cells) in the scalp (skin). The melanocytes are UV sensitive, the process is very similiar to getting a tan (on the skin). The main difference is the amount and duration of UV exposure on the scalp required to reactivate the pigmentation production in hair follicle melanocytes.

This will vary by ethnicity (i.e. genetics).

Cut the hair short (to allow more UV through) and get outside without a cap or hat during UV windows.

It's all about balance, and most people agree with that, until they actually have to change their behavior (avoiding UV to prevent cancer/skin damage) to achieve it.

Sigh.


I beg to differ. A better theory is mineral imbalance. Animal studies have found that the zinc to copper ratio must be optimal to prevent loss of hair color. I think I read somewhere that the optimal ratio is 5 to 1, zinc to copper.
 Quoting: splitting hairs 193848


No, mineral transport in the body is highly efficient. Imbalances (deficiencies) must be extreme. Secondly, copper deficiency is clinically well studied and quite rare. It does not match the condition generally referred to as premature grey hair. Sorry.

This may be the first you've heard of the UV exposure link but it's not something new. Look into photophysiology if your curious.

But of course you won't listen at first, so good luck with the mineral supplements.

I merely suggest you note this thread and come back and give it another read after mineral supplements fail to get you your desired results.


Tallyho.
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Two points: First, ya gotta have hair. Second, seen Emmylou Harris or Melanie Safka lately? They've never looked better, so who cares?

hf
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whats wrong with grey hair ???


Nothing... on men.

I'm a woman, and I beg to differ. NO ONE looks good grey. No one wants to fuck Grandpa.
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I'm with you almost 100%, the fellows are better off shaving it all off bald most of the time unless they have really healthy hair, a lot of it, and a good haircut.

However I make a major exception for black guys with grey hair, for some reason I find this really attractive, especially a younger guy who's prematurely grey, the contrast is just really hot. Plus it is so unusual, it's just visually mesmerizing.

And as far as us women goes, "no guy wants to fuck their grandma" was the way it was put to me a long time ago, I saw the point, I really did. I am only 47 and haven't lost it yet, and I am pretty conscientious about covering the gray. I did switch to a semipermanent color and I'm using less of it too.

It's not getting any cheaper but it seems pretty important to stay on top of it. I see too many examples of people who have completely let themselves go and I don't want to be one of them.
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I beg to differ. A better theory is mineral imbalance. Animal studies have found that the zinc to copper ratio must be optimal to prevent loss of hair color. I think I read somewhere that the optimal ratio is 5 to 1, zinc to copper.
 Quoting: splitting hairs 193848


According to nutrition and supplement guru Alan Graham, 30mg of zinc and 1 to 2mg of copper, in addition to what exists in a good multivitamin, is good for hair loss. Not sure about hair color but these were the recommended amounts from the only supplement guy I trust. They must be taken together as well.
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Premature grey hair is caused by insuffient UV exposure of the scalp for caucasians.

Hair color is actually skin pigment coated onto an essentially colorless (white) hair strand that grows out of the scalps hair follicles.

The pigment, called melanin, is produced by melanocytes (special cells) in the scalp (skin). The melanocytes are UV sensitive, the process is very similiar to getting a tan (on the skin). The main difference is the amount and duration of UV exposure on the scalp required to reactivate the pigmentation production in hair follicle melanocytes.

This will vary by ethnicity (i.e. genetics).

Cut the hair short (to allow more UV through) and get outside without a cap or hat during UV windows.

It's all about balance, and most people agree with that, until they actually have to change their behavior (avoiding UV to prevent cancer/skin damage) to achieve it.

Sigh.


I beg to differ. A better theory is mineral imbalance. Animal studies have found that the zinc to copper ratio must be optimal to prevent loss of hair color. I think I read somewhere that the optimal ratio is 5 to 1, zinc to copper.


No, mineral transport in the body is highly efficient. Imbalances (deficiencies) must be extreme. Secondly, copper deficiency is clinically well studied and quite rare. It does not match the condition generally referred to as premature grey hair. Sorry.

This may be the first you've heard of the UV exposure link but it's not something new. Look into photophysiology if your curious.

But of course you won't listen at first, so good luck with the mineral supplements.

I merely suggest you note this thread and come back and give it another read after mineral supplements fail to get you your desired results.


Tallyho.
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My brother-in-law always gets lots of sun. His hair was 100% white by age 45. IMO it's diet and heredity, not the sun.
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TOBACCO IS A GREAT HAIR CONDITIONER !
TURNS GREY TO SILVER. LOL
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yes, but you have to insert it rectally.
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I knew you were anal retentive.
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Premature grey hair is caused by insuffient UV exposure of the scalp for caucasians.

Hair color is actually skin pigment coated onto an essentially colorless (white) hair strand that grows out of the scalps hair follicles.

The pigment, called melanin, is produced by melanocytes (special cells) in the scalp (skin). The melanocytes are UV sensitive, the process is very similiar to getting a tan (on the skin). The main difference is the amount and duration of UV exposure on the scalp required to reactivate the pigmentation production in hair follicle melanocytes.

This will vary by ethnicity (i.e. genetics).

Cut the hair short (to allow more UV through) and get outside without a cap or hat during UV windows.

It's all about balance, and most people agree with that, until they actually have to change their behavior (avoiding UV to prevent cancer/skin damage) to achieve it.

Sigh.


I beg to differ. A better theory is mineral imbalance. Animal studies have found that the zinc to copper ratio must be optimal to prevent loss of hair color. I think I read somewhere that the optimal ratio is 5 to 1, zinc to copper.


No, mineral transport in the body is highly efficient. Imbalances (deficiencies) must be extreme. Secondly, copper deficiency is clinically well studied and quite rare. It does not match the condition generally referred to as premature grey hair. Sorry.

This may be the first you've heard of the UV exposure link but it's not something new. Look into photophysiology if your curious.

But of course you won't listen at first, so good luck with the mineral supplements.

I merely suggest you note this thread and come back and give it another read after mineral supplements fail to get you your desired results.


Tallyho.


My brother-in-law always gets lots of sun. His hair was 100% white by age 45. IMO it's diet and heredity, not the sun.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 193848


Opinion, opinion.

Facts:
heredity: yes.
Diet: no.
Sun, specifically UV: yes.

But you won't listen either, so good luck with the "hair color restoration diet", whatever that is. I smell a book coming out soon. Real before and after pictures are probably needed though.
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I don't know, but "Just For Men" gets rid of grey hair.

tomato

(for awhile anyway)
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Covering Gray Hair Recipe
Homemade Hair Dye
By Purdue University
1.

Wash your hair with one of the following rinses. Pour the selected rinse through your hair 15 times, re-rinsing with the same liquid. On the final rinse, wring hair, and leave for 15 minutes before rinsing with clear water.


Covering Gray: Simmer 1/2 cup dried sage in 2 cups water for 30 minutes, then steep for several hours. Apply to hair and leave on until dried. Then rinse and dry. Repeat weekly, until desired shade, then monthly to maintain color.

*****************

2.

SAGE. I am sure you know that it is a healing herb and it relaxes as a tea. In a bath, it smells good and eases my breathing.

I make a strong 'tea' of Sage and a bit of Rosemary, strain it and refrigerate it, and before I wash my hair, I spray it on the base of the grey patches of hair, even have massaged it in. leave it for 5 - ten minutes and then wash as usual, and care for my hair as I normally do. After a few weeks of this (I do this almost daily), the grey is disappearing.



After using the sage the normal coloring returns to the hair. It is not a 'color-change' shocker, and it softens and allows me to control the curls, and the amount of grey. I have used this through the years and it has never damaged my hair. I stop using it and the grey gradually returns and it is even pretier than the time before.

My sister was totally grey headed and after a month of daily using this solution, she had her normal light brown hair. which she had not seen for over ten years, and she dabbs it on once or twice a week now to keep her normal color, and she is 40. I am 48 and do not want to be grey just yet.

***************
3.

To make a strong rosemary & sage tea use equal amounts of rosemary & sage to 1 cup of water, combine ingredients and steep for 10 minutes, strain and use liquid for the colorant.


NOTE: These processes must be repeated daily for a few weeks before you notice any changes.
 Quoting: Hope It Works! 419399


I have basically the same recipe except mine says to add several tea bags to the sage as well. I used to do it and it really did work. I'll have to get back to this 'natural' formula again!!
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In a word, no. Eat brassicas such as cabbage, broccoli, cauliflower, etc. The sulfur content of these will get rid of the gray hair. It should take about 3 months to see good results.

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