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| Military Man
User ID: 265749 (OP)
5/7/2008 4:28 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
The White House says the timing is not right for a three-way meeting of President George W. Bush and the leaders of Israel and the Palestinian Authority when Bush is in the Mideast next week.
Bush will visit Israel, Saudi Arabia and Egypt to try to advance the stalled peace process and to mark the 60th anniversary of Israel's creation and 75 years of US relations with Saudi Arabia.
[link to www.jpost.com]
G-d was quick! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 415225
5/7/2008 5:10 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Military Man - you keeping an eye on what's happening to your north? sounds like Lebanon is going downhill real fast. Hezbollah was blocking major roadways all over the counrty today. They temporarily blocked all roads to the airport. Issued a memorandum calling the Lebanese Army the "enemy". govt sources were also reporting a buildup of Hezbollah gunmen in southern beirut and there were fears they would go after Sinora. |
| Military Man
User ID: 265749 (OP)
5/7/2008 5:31 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Military Man - you keeping an eye on what's happening to your north? sounds like Lebanon is going downhill real fast. Hezbollah was blocking major roadways all over the counrty today. They temporarily blocked all roads to the airport. Issued a memorandum calling the Lebanese Army the "enemy". govt sources were also reporting a buildup of Hezbollah gunmen in southern beirut and there were fears they would go after Sinora. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 415225
I am not suprised as to what is happenning. My question has always been, what is taking them so long to take-over the government. Though Hezbollah may not want to organizationally takeover Lebanon politically, they certainly want someone in power who will allow them to do just about anything they wish to do whenever they want to. Remember the Hez, do not want to be looked at as the Lebanese army for the do not want to be held up to international law standards. Thus, if they exercise terror tactics or use weapons of mass destruction, Lebanon would not be sanctioned, and how do you sanction a non-political body of thugs?
What do I foresee, I could see Syria pouring in troops to assist in quelling civil war just like in the 80's. Perhaps Iran needs to step in too. This is simply a stepping stone towards Jerusalem. |
| And So It Begins....
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5/8/2008 12:15 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Report: Olmert To Suspend Himself from Office
Prime Minister Ehud Olmert will suspend himself from office next week, and his deputy, Foreign Minster Tzipi Livni, will replace him during the current investigation against him, according to sources quoted by Voice of Israel government radio. The report has not been confirmed.
In a rare departure from tradition, the Prime Minister has not granted interviews with the media on Yom HaAtzmaut (Independence Day).
[link to www.israelnationalnews.com]
Iron Butterfly : In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida
[link to www.youtube.com]
And So It Begins....  |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 269684
5/8/2008 9:08 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Tension high during Beirut strike
The main roads to the international airport are blocked by barricades
Opposition supporters led by Hezbollah in Lebanon are blocking roads in Beirut on the second day of protests which started as a strike for higher pay.
Activity is limited, with many shops, schools and offices closed. The international airport is also closed.
Tensions remain high after Wednesday's clashes between Sunni and Shia gunmen.
There are fears political and sectarian tension could erupt into more violence. The army remains out in force in parts of city, but not all.
The strike has added to tension between Lebanese Shia factions - which oppose the Western-backed government - and Sunni and Druze parties, which support it.
For the moment, it seems to be a tense stand-off, with everybody waiting to see if a way can be found to break the political deadlock, says the BBC's Jim Muir in Beirut.
It clearly would take very little to set off a conflagration that would be very hard to stop if shooting starts in earnest, and blood is shed, he says.
What happened in Lebanon is a rehearsal of what the small country is expected to witness over the coming days. It is the fruit of the divisions that run through the Arab world and the Middle East
Jordan's al-Dustur newspaper
Mid-East press alarm over strike
The main roads to the city's international airport are blocked by barricades of burning tyres and bulldozed earthworks, manned by militants from Hezbollah or their allies.
The final approach to the airport can only be done on foot, so flights have been cancelled for the second day running.
Major roads are also cut in the eastern Beqaa valley, disrupting the main motorway to Syria.
On the main thoroughfare dividing Beirut itself from the mainly Shia southern suburbs, the army is out in force.
But inside the densely populated areas nearby, where Sunnis and Shia live cheek by jowl, there is little army presence.
Many streets are blocked off by local people, with young men on a high state of alert, ready to defend their own neighbourhoods.
Ongoing crisis
The country is witnessing its deepest political crisis since the civil war.
Lebanon has been without a head of state for five months because of a power struggle between the Western and Saudi-backed government and the Hezbollah-led opposition which is supported by Syria and Iran.
Unions, which called the general strike on Wednesday, are demanding that the government triple the minimum monthly wage, which currently stands at $200 (£102).
Prices have been rising in Lebanon, especially food and fuel, with the situation exacerbated by the weakening of the US dollar, but Finance Minister Jihad Azour has warned that big pay rises would lead to rampant inflation.
[link to news.bbc.co.uk] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 269684
5/8/2008 9:09 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Report: Olmert To Suspend Himself from Office
Prime Minister Ehud Olmert will suspend himself from office next week, and his deputy, Foreign Minster Tzipi Livni, will replace him during the current investigation against him, according to sources quoted by Voice of Israel government radio. The report has not been confirmed.
In a rare departure from tradition, the Prime Minister has not granted interviews with the media on Yom HaAtzmaut (Independence Day).
[ link to www.israelnationalnews.com]
Iron Butterfly : In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida
[ link to www.youtube.com]
And So It Begins....
as if things weren't unstable enough in the region - we got Olmert stepping down and Lebanon going to hell in a hand basket |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 265749 (OP)
5/8/2008 10:55 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Another quote from the man who intends to gnite the Middleeast ths year.
"Israel is nothing but a stinking corpse," siad Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad Thursday.
Speaking to the Iranian news agency IRNA, Ahmadinejad added that the "very existence of the Zionist entity is questioned. It is heading for destruction." (AFP)
[link to www.ynetnews.com]
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| Military Man
User ID: 265749 (OP)
5/8/2008 11:56 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Another quote from the man who intends to gnite the Middleeast ths year.
"Israel is nothing but a stinking corpse," siad Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad Thursday.
Speaking to the Iranian news agency IRNA, Ahmadinejad added that the "very existence of the Zionist entity is questioned. It is heading for destruction." (AFP)
[link to www.ynetnews.com]
RAISE THE ALERT LEVEL: Intelligence indicates that Ahmadinejad and friends will try to give Israel a 'present' during the birthday in protest of her existence. |
| And So It Begins....
User ID: 368906
5/8/2008 12:23 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Report: Olmert To Suspend Himself from Office
Prime Minister Ehud Olmert will suspend himself from office next week, and his deputy, Foreign Minster Tzipi Livni, will replace him during the current investigation against him, according to sources quoted by Voice of Israel government radio. The report has not been confirmed.
In a rare departure from tradition, the Prime Minister has not granted interviews with the media on Yom HaAtzmaut (Independence Day).
[ link to www.israelnationalnews.com]
Iron Butterfly : In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida
[ link to www.youtube.com]
And So It Begins....
Hezbollah chief says 'War has started'
Gunfire broke out in downtown Beirut Thursday after Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah said recent government actions amount to "a declaration of open war."
[link to www.cnn.com]
Led Zeppelin - Kashmir
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And So It Begins.... |
| Military Man
User ID: 265749 (OP)
5/8/2008 1:19 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
If Lebanon goes further into crisis and the Hezbollah appears to be taking control, there are several contingencies that nations are planning to address:
1. The U.S. intercede as the troiops and hardware are available (though the peacekeeping in the 80's became a quamire)
2. Israel intercede and take out the Hezbollah like the 80's
3. The Fench may be in the best position to intercede and are willing to.
4. Do nothing and the Hez. sets up for the coming war against Israel by Iran. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 387522
5/8/2008 1:34 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
MM, thanks for the updates.
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 415225
5/8/2008 5:17 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 262098
5/9/2008 12:51 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
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| And So It Begins....
User ID: 368906
5/9/2008 2:21 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Ehud Olmert vows to resign if he is indicted
Ehud Olmert, the Israeli Prime Minister, said that he will resign if he is indicted after allegations that he accepted illegal campaign donations.
Mr Olmert said: “I was elected by you, citizens of Israel, to be the Prime Minister and I don’t intend to shirk this responsibility. At the same time, and even though the law does not require me to do this, I will resign from my job if the Attorney-General decides to issue an indictment against me.”
[link to www.timesonline.co.uk]
Nektar - Remember The Future
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 415225
5/9/2008 7:29 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Uhhh, Lebanon is being overrun by Hezbollah and nobody is even talking about it. what the heck is up with this site? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 427764
5/9/2008 8:02 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
GOOd question....
fox news hasnt said a word about yet....
Hezbollah has taken over ..... just like Hamas took over gaza |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 415225
5/9/2008 8:06 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
GOOd question....
fox news hasnt said a word about yet....
Hezbollah has taken over ..... just like Hamas took over gaza Quoting: Anonymous Coward 427764
not quite the same. Hamas took over Gaza after Israel pulled out. After the pull out there was a rather large vaccum void and Hamas filled it. Gaza was already a mess. Lebanon is a completely different story. they have a westen backed government with a standing military and is the "melting pot" of the region. Now its being over run by a bunch of terrorists. The change is going to be a lot more dramatic in Lebanon then it was for Gaza when Hamas took over |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 427764
5/9/2008 8:30 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Fatah was in control of Gaza.... backed by the West 100 percent were you think they got all their weapons and stuff that Hamas now uses...
sorta the same sorta not |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 430325
5/9/2008 8:39 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
If Lebanon goes further into crisis and the Hezbollah appears to be taking control, there are several contingencies that nations are planning to address:
1. The U.S. intercede as the troiops and hardware are available (though the peacekeeping in the 80's became a quamire)
2. Israel intercede and take out the Hezbollah like the 80's
3. The Fench may be in the best position to intercede and are willing to.
4. Do nothing and the Hez. sets up for the coming war against Israel by Iran. Quoting: Military Man 265749
5. UN peacekeepers attempt to keep the situation from spiraling out of control, but only succeed in widening the conflict. Infrastructure and civil services shut down due to continuing battles and the entire country is thrown into chaos. Syria steps in to 'stop the violence,' and establishes a 'temporary' controlling government along with Syrian troops to 'prevent further bloodshed.' |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 415225
5/9/2008 8:44 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Fatah was in control of Gaza.... backed by the West 100 percent were you think they got all their weapons and stuff that Hamas now uses...
sorta the same sorta not Quoting: Anonymous Coward 427764
I hear what you are saying, but it was a very short lived tenure that Fatah had. I think Hamas won election in Gaza only like 6 months after Israel pulled out. So Fatah was in power for a short period. And comparing Fatah (Arafat's party) to the Sinora govt in Lebanon in like comparing rotten apples and oranges.
End result is going to be the same in both cases - BAD |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 427764
5/9/2008 9:06 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
yep they both end the same..
hopefully it went spill over into Israel |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 419624
5/9/2008 9:57 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Military man any chance this will spill into Israel the fighting in Lebanon? Also will the U.S. or Israel get involved to save the Govt in Lebanon? |
| Military Man
User ID: 265749 (OP)
5/9/2008 11:41 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Military man any chance this will spill into Israel the fighting in Lebanon? Also will the U.S. or Israel get involved to save the Govt in Lebanon? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 419624
The Hezbollah has been planninhg this for a while. Syria moved its troops knowing darn well what was to come. Israel knew. Once Olmert got inot hot water, Hezbollah took its action. Remember Assad has been plannng for this and said a war was likley after the 15th of May. Well -duh, he knew the Hezbollah would take over parts of Lebanon.
This is very similiar to the civil war in the 80's when Israel went running into Lebanon. This is actually exactly what Israel should be doing now to take care of the Hezbollah. As the Hez. forces are fighting in the streets in Beirut, Israel could be running across the border and taking no prisoners on the Hez. and then stay in the southern outskirts of Beirut and encircle it until an international force comes in. Israel could then knock out missile sites and close off the Bekka valley, preventing Syria from assisting the Hezbollah. Remember Assad has troops throughout the valley, as he knew this was to take place. Israel would then have to confront Syra too.
If the U.S. was in on the plan (intelligence knew this was to happen), they too could assist. In fact, this is why the U.S. has had its boats sitting off-shore. To forewarn all to leave the true Lebanese government alone. Now, is the U.S. going to take action or not? Come on Bush, do it! Our men are ready.
Meanwhile, if Israel is to act, which they should, they can stage the war initially on the Hez, then hit Syria, then take out Iran. This is an opportunity they should not pass up! However, Olmert's troubles may in fact delay any action, leading to the Hezbollah preparing for the next round in the north of Israel for occupation. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 415225
5/9/2008 11:47 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Military Man - any word if those 5 Syrian divisions reported to have deployed to the Lebanese border have moved in to assist Hezbollah in their takeover bid? |
| Military Man
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5/9/2008 12:02 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Military Man - any word if those 5 Syrian divisions reported to have deployed to the Lebanese border have moved in to assist Hezbollah in their takeover bid? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 415225
So far, no, not to say it will not happen. There are indications they and Iran may move troops into Lebanon to set-up a staging for the Israeli offensive in the next year. |
| Military Man
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5/9/2008 12:22 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Of course why should Olmert worry about the north when he cannot even protect the south.
19:11 One Israeli killed by Palestinian mortar which landed in western Negev (Haaretz) |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 415225
5/9/2008 12:39 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Of course why should Olmert worry about the north when he cannot even protect the south.
19:11 One Israeli killed by Palestinian mortar which landed in western Negev (Haaretz) Quoting: Military Man 265749
if you will recall, a qassam struk the college in Sderdot a few weeks back killing a guy and that seemed to set off the latest round of escalation with Hamas. Now we got another dead Israeli. How is Olmert going to react this time? Situation is a little more complex this go around. He's in political hot water and has a civil war raging to his north, where Hezbollah has the lead hand right now. Ratcheting up Gaza right now with everything else going on could bring the whole regional house of cards down. |
| Military Man
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5/9/2008 12:45 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Of course why should Olmert worry about the north when he cannot even protect the south.
19:11 One Israeli killed by Palestinian mortar which landed in western Negev (Haaretz)
if you will recall, a qassam struk the college in Sderdot a few weeks back killing a guy and that seemed to set off the latest round of escalation with Hamas. Now we got another dead Israeli. How is Olmert going to react this time? Situation is a little more complex this go around. He's in political hot water and has a civil war raging to his north, where Hezbollah has the lead hand right now. Ratcheting up Gaza right now with everything else going on could bring the whole regional house of cards down. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 415225
And, And , And, the Al Quds militia in Iraq fires more missiles on the green zone.
Early this week, I observed information with a summary analysis that things would be calm until nearer the U.S. election. I hope they fire that intelligence officer. Seems everyone is missing the boat. Instead, no matter what, Israel must take care of Iran this year if the U.S. does not. John Bolton is travelling the lecture circuit claiming that someone must take on Iran now. Even the liberal media, Newsweek, is forewarnign of a large scale war between israel and Iran in the coming year, but they miss the boat oo. It(the war) will be this year! |
| Military Man
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5/9/2008 1:26 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
I guess the U.S. must start somewhere as we issue a statement:
"The White House said Friday it was "very troubled" by the crisis in Lebanon and urged Iran and Syria to end their support for the Hezbollah group battling the government in Beirut.
"We are very troubled by the recent actions of Hezbollah. We urge Hezbollah to stop their attempt to defy the lawful decisions taken by the democratically elected Lebanese government," said spokesman Gordon Johndroe.
"We also urge Iran and Syria to stop their support of Hezbollah and its destabilizing effects on Lebanon," he told reporters."
[link to www.africasia.com] |
| Military Man
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5/9/2008 1:27 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
And, Lebanon says it as they see it:
"Lebanon's governing coalition said on Friday Hezbollah's takeover of west Beirut was an "armed coup" aimed at bringing Syria back into the country and serving Iran's interests.
"The armed and bloody coup which is being implemented aims to return Syria to Lebanon and extend Iran's reach to the Mediterranean," the coalition said in a statement read by Christian leader Samir Geagea" |
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