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7/20/2008 12:56 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Gaza Factions Meet to Implement Palestinian President's Dialogue Initiative:
Text of report by Palestinian newspaper Al-Ayyam on 20 July
[Report by Hasan Jabr: "Intensive Factional Meetings To Draft Paper on Mechanisms for Implementation of President's Initiative"]
Activists from various political factions are holding continuous meetings to develop a working paper on the mechanisms for the implementation of President Mahmud Abbas's initiative for national dialogue.
The activists who participate in the meetings that are held in Gaza seek to prepare this working paper to submit it to President Abbas, the National Dialogue Committee, and the Hamas Movement to end the political division.
A reliable source told Al-Ayyam that representatives of four political forces met regularly in Gaza away from the media to draft this paper and present it to the national action factions.
[link to www.istockanalyst.com] |
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7/20/2008 1:09 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Olmert says Israel can be proud of swap deal with Hezbollah:
Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert says Israel can be "proud" of a prisoner swap deal last week with Hezbollah guerrillas. Israel returned five Lebanese prisoners and nearly 200 bodies in return for the bodies of two Israeli soldiers.
[link to timesofindia.indiatimes.com] |
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7/20/2008 7:04 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
First Person: Gaza on brink of humanitarian catastrophe:
This August, a group of 40 international human rights activists from 15 countries, including Palestinians and Israelis, will attempt to sail directly from the island of Cyprus into the besieged Palestinian territory of Gaza. I will participate as the ship's doctor. Two ships, provided by an organization called the Free Gaza Movement, will challenge Israel's policy of imprisoning 1.4 million Palestinians within the Gaza Strip.
[link to seattlepi.nwsource.com] |
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7/20/2008 7:09 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Hopes high for Lebanon-Syria ties on eve of Moallem's visit to Beirut:
Syrian Foreign Minister Walid Moallem is to visit Beirut on Monday a week after Lebanon and Syria agreed to establish diplomatic relations between the adjoining nations.
[link to www.dailystar.com.lb] |
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7/20/2008 7:11 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Iran's nuclear negotiator meets with Turkey's foreign minister:
Iran's chief nuclear negotiator met Sunday with Turkey's foreign minister, who reiterated his country's position that the Islamic Republic has the right to develop nuclear energy for peaceful purposes.
[link to www.iht.com] |
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7/21/2008 10:26 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Feeding on increased fuel inflow, vehicles back into Gaza streets:
Finally, Mohamed Abu Ghali, a 25-year-old Palestinian resident in Rafah town of southern Gaza Strip, drives his Chinese-made motorcycle onto the roads as Israel allows more fuels into the Gaza Strip.
[link to news.xinhuanet.com] |
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7/21/2008 10:28 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Israeli siege of Gaza 'collective punishment,' say UK MPs:
An influential group of British MPs Sunday criticised Israel's siege of Gaza as "collective punishment" against the Palestinians and called on the UK government to strongly urge the Zionist regime to desist from violating international law.
[link to mathaba.net] |
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7/21/2008 10:29 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Israeli settlers fire homemade rocket at West Bank villages:
Israeli settlers fired on Monday a homemade rocket at two villages south of the West Bank city of Nablus, causing no injuries, Palestinian security sources and witnesses said.
[link to news.xinhuanet.com] |
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7/21/2008 10:31 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Syria, Tehran Agree on Mechanism for Iran Nuclear Programme - Qatari Paper:
Text of report by Qatari newspaper Al-Watan website on 19 July
[Unattributed report: "Within the Framework of an Agreement on a Mechanism for the Iranian Nuclear Programme, Damascus and Tehran Call for Making the Region Free of WMD"]
Informed diplomatic sources have said that Damascus and Tehran have agreed on a specified mechanism for their move regarding Iran's nuclear file. This agreement came during Iranian Foreign Minister Manuchehr Mottaki's visit to Syria two days ago and his meeting with President Bashar al-Asad and his talks with his Syrian counterpart Walid al-Mu'allim.
[link to www.istockanalyst.com] |
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7/21/2008 10:32 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Mideast's Balance of Power Shifts Away From U.S.:
A handful of Middle East nations and groups are pursuing talks that are dramatically shifting the region's balance of power in ways that could undercut U.S. interests.
[link to online.wsj.com] |
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7/21/2008 10:34 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Syria wants new chapter in ties with Lebanon: FM:
Visiting Syrian Foreign Minister Walid Muallem said on Monday that Damascus was keen to open a new chapter in its relations with Lebanon and to delineate the border between both countries.
[link to afp.google.com] |
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7/21/2008 10:36 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Obama’s schedule in Israel:
In a conference call, Obama’s campaign just announced that the Democratic nominee will be in Israel on Wednesday, where he will meet with Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni, Defense Minister Ehud Barak and opposition leader Benjamin Netanyahu. He’ll also be meeting with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas and Prime Minister Salam Fayyad.
[link to blogs.jta.org] |
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7/21/2008 10:39 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
President calls nuclear talks a ‘step forward:
President Mahmud Ahmadinejad on Sunday described Geneva talks between Iran and the European diplomats as a step towards ending the nuclear standoff.
Supreme National Security Council (SNSC) Secretary Saeed Jalili and EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana held talks in Geneva on Saturday over ending Iran’s long-running nuclear standoff with the West.
“Any negotiation that takes place is a step forward for us,” Ahmadinejad told reporters.
“Yesterday’s (Saturday) negotiation is regarded as one of these forward-moving negotiations,” Ahmadinejad added.
U.S. senior diplomat Williams Burns for the first time attended the talks which marked the highest-ranking meeting between the two countries in three decades.
Also present were representatives from the five veto-wielding members of the UN Security Council plus Germany.
China, Russia, Britain, the United States, France and Germany last month presented Iran with a revised package of incentives in return for a halt in Tehran’s uranium enrichment activities.
The package which is a follow-up of an original proposal in 2006, offers nuclear cooperation and wider trade in aircraft, energy, high technology, and agriculture.
Iran has also presented its own package of proposals on resolving international challenges including the threat of nuclear proliferation and has said it has found common ground between the two separate packages.
Senior Iranian officials have repeatedly rejected calls for a halt in Tehran’s uranium enrichment work and have expressed readiness to talk “only on common points”.
Talks on common points
Top nuclear negotiator Saeed Jalili held separate talks in Geneva on Sunday with the Russian representative in the nuclear negotiations.
Jalili told Sergei Kislyak that new talks between the two sides should focus on the common points between the two packages of proposals.
Kislyak reasserted Russian position that Iran’s nuclear dispute must be resolved through negotiations. Any action against Iran outside the framework of international law would be untrustworthy, he added.
China opposes unlawful actions against Iran
In a separate meeting with Jalili, Chinese representative in Geneva talks said Beijing believes that the international community should find a diplomatic solution to Iran’s nuclear dispute.
Bejing is opposed to any action outside international law, he asserted.
Jalili said Iran is seriously pursuing the negotiations and demands that the two sides focus on common viewpoints in order to find ways to settle the nuclear row.
[link to www.tehrantimes.com] |
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7/21/2008 7:16 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
 for World Peace |
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7/22/2008 5:32 PM
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Miliband: EU would not support Iran war Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:31:39
British Foreign Secretary David Miliband says the EU will not support a military strike on Iran over the country's nuclear program.
After a Tuesday meeting between EU foreign ministers and foreign policy chief Javier Solana, Miliband said the union supports dialogue to resolve the issue.
He said Tehran has to 'get serious' about answering questions over its nuclear enrichment project, the Associated Press reported.
"The offer that has been made to Iran on the one hand ... and the sanctions on the other, if they refuse to engage and reply, is exactly the right approach,'' Miliband said referring to a package of incentives proposed by the five permanent members of Security Council plus Germany (P5+1) which requires Tehran halt uranium enrichment in exchange for political and economic benefits.
The six powers have set a two-week deadline for Iran to respond to their offer, while setting the stage for a new round of UN sanctions against the country.
The most recent UN nuclear watchdog report concluded that there is no link between the use of nuclear material and the 'alleged studies' of weaponization attributed to Iran by Western countries.
Miliband's remarks contradict British Prime Minister Gordon Brown's promise to the Israeli parliament not to stand by and allow Iran to acquire 'nuclear weapons'.
Israel and the US accuse Iran of pursuing a military nuclear program and threaten to attack the country should the Islamic Republic continue its enrichment activities.
Iran has cited diplomacy as the only means acceptable in clarifying the nature of its nuclear activities and has warned that it would target Israel and 32 US bases in the region should the country come under attack.
[link to www.presstv.ir]
May Peace and Freedom Reign
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7/23/2008 3:28 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
UN: Violence in Gaza dropping, peace developments on rise:
Violent actions have decreased in the Gaza Strip in the past month while a number of "encouraging" developments have taken place across the Middle East, the United Nations said Tuesday.
[link to www.haaretz.com] |
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7/23/2008 3:31 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Middle East faces a new era in mediation as the US stands back:
THE BUSH administration's prosecution of wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and its preoccupation with Iran's nuclear programme have left a political vacuum in the Middle East which has compelled world and local powers to mediate negotiations and secure balanced agreements on key problems.
Instead of ratcheting up tensions or fighting, political pundit Rami Khouri has written, now "everyone is negotiating".
[link to www.irishtimes.com] |
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7/23/2008 3:34 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Democrat Barack Obama viewed with suspicion in Israel:
Barack Obama pledged yesterday to work for peace between Israel and the Palestinians from his first day in office, hours before arriving in the region where he faces a sceptical audience on both sides of the conflict.
The Democratic presidential candidate, who is struggling to win over Jewish voters in America and is viewed with suspicion in Israel, holds meetings in Jerusalem and the West Bank today during the thorniest leg of his international tour.
[link to www.timesonline.co.uk] |
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7/24/2008 4:26 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Gaza poverty mounts despite Hamas-Israel truce:
A UN official in Gaza Strip said Wednesday that poverty in the enclave is mounting despite an one-month-long truce between Israel and Hamas.
[link to news.xinhuanet.com] |
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7/24/2008 4:27 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
U.K. Lawmakers Call for Direct U.S. Talks With Hamas (Update1):
British and U.S. diplomats must negotiate directly with Hamas, the Palestinian militant group accused of backing terrorism, to bring peace to the Middle East, a cross-party committee of U.K. lawmakers said.
[link to www.bloomberg.com] |
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7/24/2008 4:30 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Restoration of Syria-Lebanon Relations -Part of Israel-Syria Peace Process:
Visit of Syria’s Foreign Minister Walid al-Mouallem to Beirut on 21 July became recent three years’ first step towards restoration of diplomatic relations between the two countries. However, continuation of the relations is contingent on recognition by official Damascus of the territorial integrity of Lebanon. Return of Golan Heights by Israel is also unlikely until the problem is solved.
[link to news.trendaz.com] |
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7/24/2008 4:32 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
U.S. abruptly cancels planned meeting with Syrians:
The U.S. State Department on Wednesday canceled plans to meet three Syrians making a private visit to Washington and gave no detailed explanation of its abrupt reversal.
[link to www.reuters.com] |
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7/24/2008 4:34 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Obama woos Israel with security commitment:
U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama on Thursday concluded his visit to Israel and the Palestinian territory, which is packed with meetings, tours and assurances of commitment to Israel's security.
[link to news.xinhuanet.com] |
| Military Man
User ID: 265749 (OP)
7/24/2008 2:52 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Email from Mossad Agent's Wife:
Obama Hussein Barack hung out with Israeli Defense Minister Barak for quite a while on Israeli security including Iran yesterday. Once Obama left Israel, Barak met with the opposition leader Bibi Netenyahu to talk about several things.
1. Barak judges Obama to be ignorant to Israel and in fact arrogant on security matters. He acted like he knew it all and in fact tried to tell Barak that there were other ways to handle terror threats and that if Israel gave in to terror groups more often (such as the body exchange with the Hezbollah), Israel would have a true and lasting peace.
2. Barak surmised that Obama wanted nothing to do with Iran being attacked. Instead, Obama suggested Israel wait another year and at least forgo any mission against Iran until he came into office.
3. The analysis of the Obama trip was that Obama could not be trusted to ensure Israel's security. Further, the attack on Iran must be done prior to Obama getting into office. |
| clever got me this far ,tricky
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7/24/2008 3:31 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Email from Mossad Agent's Wife:
Obama Hussein Barack hung out with Israeli Defense Minister Barak for quite a while on Israeli security including Iran yesterday. Once Obama left Israel, Barak met with the opposition leader Bibi Netenyahu to talk about several things.
1. Barak judges Obama to be ignorant to Israel and in fact arrogant on security matters. He acted like he knew it all and in fact tried to tell Barak that there were other ways to handle terror threats and that if Israel gave in to terror groups more often (such as the body exchange with the Hezbollah), Israel would have a true and lasting peace.
2. Barak surmised that Obama wanted nothing to do with Iran being attacked. Instead, Obama suggested Israel wait another year and at least forgo any mission against Iran until he came into office.
3. The analysis of the Obama trip was that Obama could not be trusted to ensure Israel's security. Further, the attack on Iran must be done prior to Obama getting into office. Quoting: Military Man
Military strike not an option on Iran, EU ministers say. 24th July 2008.
[link to www.campaigniran.org]
Hmmm, what would it take for the Islamic (Pakistan) nuclear reaction?
2 birds one stone? The "heart of Islam" and the "jewish question".
How does that fit in Washington, Moscow and Beijing?
Not the end of the world, for sure. |
| Anonymous Coward
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7/24/2008 3:42 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Military man are you picking up any new info? Like an attack by hezbollah or Iran? any timelines on when something may go down? |
| clever got me this far ,tricky
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7/24/2008 4:51 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Military man are you picking up any new info? Like an attack by hezbollah or Iran? any timelines on when something may go down? Quoting: AC 453926
Yes. The irrevocable order to all Allah`s warriors. Israel MUST be the first to attack. There is no exception. |
| Military Man
User ID: 265749 (OP)
7/24/2008 5:38 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Military man are you picking up any new info? Like an attack by hezbollah or Iran? any timelines on when something may go down? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 453926
I have warned about Israel forming a national unity government. If that happens, it is because Israel is prepared to move first. The latest gossip is that this government will be formed soon and Olmert will step down. Olmert knows he cannot lead Israel through this coming war and so he will step down or be forced out at elections.
Israel's concern is that the Hezbollah have been arming more and more missiles and placing its troops on high military readiness. Syria too has troops on high readiness.
Timeline - bets are on October still, but one could get a payout in late August or September with their bets now. |
| Anonymous Coward
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7/24/2008 6:11 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
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7/25/2008 12:04 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Israel's Debate Over an Iran Strike:
Despite President Bush's insistence that the military option remains "on the table" for dealing with Iran's nuclear program, Israeli officials have recognized that a U.S. air strike on Iranian nuclear sites is increasingly unlikely in the waning days of the Bush Administration. The Israelis, along with everyone else, are now counting on European-led diplomatic efforts to persuade the Iranians to halt their uranium-enrichment program. But they know diplomacy may fail, which is why a debate now rages in the highest circles of Israel's government and military: If the Europeans fail and the Americans remain reluctant to launch another war in the Middle East, should Israel strike alone against Iran?
[link to www.time.com] |
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