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| Military Man
User ID: 121743
8/11/2008 2:33 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Biblically, many doubted that Russia could move south and attack Israel as Gog-Magog Prophecy fortold, until today.
Now that Russia is in almost total control of Georgia, I have no doubt they can reach Syria and Iran and take on Israel. Though Armegedon will be a ways out (7 years away) each military is positioning their troops to be there for the battle. The U.S has troops within the vicinity, Russia will have hers too. Now China and the EU will get the ball rolling on their end after the Gog-Magog war.
In the meantime, all we need is Israel taking on Iran and kicking some "ass". Russia will then get open roads from Turkey to move troops down to confront Israel and then, miraculously Israel survives, then end-times will be here! |
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8/11/2008 2:35 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Georgia: Vladimir Putin sends emphatic message of global importance.
Russia's pounding of Georgia means it will use force to protect all 25 million Russians in states that belonged to the Soviet Union.
[link to www.telegraph.co.uk] |
| Pilot_007
User ID: 472894
8/11/2008 2:35 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
DAMN I maxed my C/Cards this weekend expecting it to happen this month.... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 453926
8/11/2008 2:53 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Military man are you expecting things to break out this week between Iran and Israel or Israel and Hezbollah? Also what about this possibility this week of a US naval blockade on Iran? Thanks for your info? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 470629
8/11/2008 3:01 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Biblically, many doubted that Russia could move south and attack Israel as Gog-Magog Prophecy fortold, until today.
Now that Russia is in almost total control of Georgia, I have no doubt they can reach Syria and Iran and take on Israel. Though Armegedon will be a ways out (7 years away) each military is positioning their troops to be there for the battle. The U.S has troops within the vicinity, Russia will have hers too. Now China and the EU will get the ball rolling on their end after the Gog-Magog war.
In the meantime, all we need is Israel taking on Iran and kicking some "ass". Russia will then get open roads from Turkey to move troops down to confront Israel and then, miraculously Israel survives, then end-times will be here! Quoting: Military Man 121743
Isaiah 17:1 here we come!  |
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8/11/2008 4:50 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Iran says to pursue nuclear talks with EU
Iran said on Monday it has agreed with the EU to continue talks aimed at resolving the nuclear crisis but again insisted it will press on with contested work despite the threat of more sanctions.
Top nuclear negotiator Saeed Jalili spoke by phone with EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana, the pointman for six major powers which have offered Iran an incentives package in return for a freeze in uranium enrichment activities.
[link to afp.google.com] |
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8/11/2008 4:53 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Israel to close Gaza Strip crossings
Israel is to close crossings to Gaza Strip after the army said a rocket fired from by Palestinians struck the south of the country on Monday afternoon in violation of a calm, causing no casualties or damage.
[link to www.albawaba.com] |
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8/11/2008 4:55 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Diplomatic ties to top agenda of Lebanon-Syria summit
The establishment of diplomatic ties and the opening of embassies will top the agenda of this week's Damascus summit between the Lebanese and Syrian presidents, a Lebanese official said on Monday.
[link to afp.google.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 7932
8/11/2008 4:55 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Biblically, many doubted that Russia could move south and attack Israel as Gog-Magog Prophecy fortold, until today.
Now that Russia is in almost total control of Georgia, I have no doubt they can reach Syria and Iran and take on Israel. Though Armegedon will be a ways out (7 years away) each military is positioning their troops to be there for the battle. The U.S has troops within the vicinity, Russia will have hers too. Now China and the EU will get the ball rolling on their end after the Gog-Magog war.
In the meantime, all we need is Israel taking on Iran and kicking some "ass". Russia will then get open roads from Turkey to move troops down to confront Israel and then, miraculously Israel survives, then end-times will be here! Quoting: Military Man 121743
Military Man, do you have some thoughts on this? You seem to have a feeling what direction things are heading.
I'm wondering about Turkey now. It will be interesting to see if something starts happening there in advance of this Russian march southward. |
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8/11/2008 4:57 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Iran says spares no effort to help secure Iraq
Supreme National Security Council Secretary Saeed Jalili on Sunday said that Iraq’s stability and economic prosperity are dependent on security in this country and Iran will spare no effort in this regard.
[link to www.tehrantimes.com] |
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8/11/2008 5:03 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
A line in the sand
Georgia's disastrous attack on South Ossetia has given Russia a perfect excuse to roll back US control of Azerbaijan's oil supply.
Ever since the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, Russia has watched with growing alarm how the successive US administrations have violated the promise made by President George HW Bush to respect the status quo existing at the time of the end of the cold war in 1990. The eastward expansion of Nato, which started during the Bill Clinton presidency, has covered not only the Baltic states, but also all of the east European members of the now-defunct Moscow-led Warsaw Pact. As if this were not enough, plans are being made to expand Nato to admit Ukraine, a former European constituent of the Soviet Union, and Georgia, a former Caucasian constituent of the Soviet Union.
Already, the Pentagon had established its presence in Georgia and Azerbaijan. It posted its officers to these Caucasian republics to train Georgian and Azeri forces to guard the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan (BTC) oil pipeline – connecting Baku, the source of oil, with the Mediterranean port of Ceyhan, in Turkey. Moreover, under guise of waging "war on terror", the Azeri government allowed the Pentagon to upgrade the Nasosnaya military airfield north of Baku. As I have discussed in my book Blood of the Earth, that gave the US greater flexibility in transporting troops and deploying its air power in the region.
The Pentagon's continuing intrusion into Russia's backyard has been worrisome to the military leaders in Moscow. They see it as part of Washington's overarching policy of encircling Russia. Now, Saakashvili's ill-conceived move has provided them with a rationale to flex their muscles and claw back some of the influence the Kremlin has been wont to exercise in the Caucasus over the past two centuries.
On the American side, intent on monopolising the exploitation of the hydrocarbon resources of the Caspian Basin, the Clinton administration resolved to exclude Russian and Iranian oil companies from exploration and extraction. It succeeded. Yet, there was the task of delivering the crude oil to where it was needed – Europe. With their already-established pipelines leading to maritime terminals, Russia and Iran were well-placed to provide the transit facilities.
To exclude Russia and Iran even from this phase, Washington favoured the construction of the 1,090-mile Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline, even though it was twice as long as the alternative route of Baku-Tbilisi-Suspa, the Russian port on the Black Sea, and passes through a highly seismic landscape. The US government went on to grant $823m to Turkey for this project, amounting to more than a fifth of the total cost.
Although the presidents of Azerbaijan, Georgia, Kazakhstan and Turkey signed (under pressure from Washington) a document in 1998 favouring the BTC pipeline, it was not until 2006 that it was built. During the present conflict, the Russian air force has tried to hit this pipeline – so far without success. By attempting to do so, the Kremlin is sending a message to Nato member states: the BTC pipeline, built at great cost in order to circumvent Russia, is now vulnerable.
Of course, any damage to the pipeline can be repaired. And the events of the past few days will enable Washington to convince its allies that, despite the odds, it had pursued the right policy of excluding Russia from the ventures of the western oil corporations in the Caspian Basin.
On the other hand, with Europe importing 25% of its natural gas needs from Russia, there is no prospect of it ensuring its energy security by excluding the Russian behemoth, Gazprom, from its list of hydrocarbon suppliers. All that western capitals can now hope is that the popular backlash in Georgia, which is bound to follow Saakashvili's blunder, does not lead to his overthrow and replacement by a leader who is not as determinedly anti-Russian as he is.
[link to www.guardian.co.uk] |
| Military Man
User ID: 121743
8/11/2008 8:01 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Military man are you expecting things to break out this week between Iran and Israel or Israel and Hezbollah? Also what about this possibility this week of a US naval blockade on Iran? Thanks for your info? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 453926
At this moment - ALL are a possibility. Any attack with Iran will follow through with the Hezbollah. More likely is that Israel will attack - be it either or. Bush wants to do something and I am sure he is giving a green light to Israel. Reasoning, Bush is a Christian and he is trying to do everything he feels he should be doing to prevent just exactly what is coming - a devastating war against Israel and the rise of Russia to attack Israel. Unfortunately, attacking Iraq did not protect Israel. More so, becoming friends with Russia and prepping Georgia did not help one bit. Russia is marching down. Thus, Bush may feel morally obligated to help Israel survive by allowing Israel to attack Iran. |
| Military Man
User ID: 121743
8/11/2008 8:05 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Biblically, many doubted that Russia could move south and attack Israel as Gog-Magog Prophecy fortold, until today.
Now that Russia is in almost total control of Georgia, I have no doubt they can reach Syria and Iran and take on Israel. Though Armegedon will be a ways out (7 years away) each military is positioning their troops to be there for the battle. The U.S has troops within the vicinity, Russia will have hers too. Now China and the EU will get the ball rolling on their end after the Gog-Magog war.
In the meantime, all we need is Israel taking on Iran and kicking some "ass". Russia will then get open roads from Turkey to move troops down to confront Israel and then, miraculously Israel survives, then end-times will be here!
Military Man, do you have some thoughts on this? You seem to have a feeling what direction things are heading.
I'm wondering about Turkey now. It will be interesting to see if something starts happening there in advance of this Russian march southward. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7932
TURKEY- once was a valid ally of Israel, still a secular government/but muslim nation. Lately, Turkey has been surprisingly pro-Iran. Either Iran buys them out or Israel hits Iran and scares the World with serious economic impacts and possible nuclear exchange on Syria and Iran. Then Turkey turns and allows Russia to front its troops down the highways to Syria and inot or near Israel. |
| Military Man
User ID: 121743
8/11/2008 8:20 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Biblically, many doubted that Russia could move south and attack Israel as Gog-Magog Prophecy fortold, until today.
Now that Russia is in almost total control of Georgia, I have no doubt they can reach Syria and Iran and take on Israel. Though Armegedon will be a ways out (7 years away) each military is positioning their troops to be there for the battle. The U.S has troops within the vicinity, Russia will have hers too. Now China and the EU will get the ball rolling on their end after the Gog-Magog war.
In the meantime, all we need is Israel taking on Iran and kicking some "ass". Russia will then get open roads from Turkey to move troops down to confront Israel and then, miraculously Israel survives, then end-times will be here!
Military Man, do you have some thoughts on this? You seem to have a feeling what direction things are heading.
I'm wondering about Turkey now. It will be interesting to see if something starts happening there in advance of this Russian march southward.
TURKEY- once was a valid ally of Israel, still a secular government/but muslim nation. Lately, Turkey has been surprisingly pro-Iran. Either Iran buys them out or Israel hits Iran and scares the World with serious economic impacts and possible nuclear exchange on Syria and Iran. Then Turkey turns and allows Russia to front its troops down the highways to Syria and into or near Israel. Quoting: Military Man 121743
If we all pray hard enough, maybe G-D will intercede. |
| nonmaterial structure
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8/12/2008 7:38 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Israel to transfer 23 million dollars to Gaza:
Israel will transfer 72 million shekels (23 million dollars) to the Gaza Strip on Tuesday to pay the salaries of Palestinian civil servants, a senior Israeli defence ministry official said.
[link to afp.google.com] |
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8/12/2008 7:39 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Hamas says Israeli closure of Gaza crossings meaningless;
A spokesman for the Islamic Hamas movement said Tuesday Israeli closure of Gaza commercial crossings is meaningless since Israel has not completely eased all sanctions imposed on these crossings.
[link to news.xinhuanet.com] |
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8/12/2008 7:41 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Israel stages war games on occupied Golan
Israel launched large-scale military exercises on Tuesday on the occupied Golan Heights along the Syrian border on Tuesday in the presence of senior political and military officials.
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8/12/2008 7:42 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Syria: We Said We'd Allow One IAEA Visit To Site Of Attack
In response to news that Syria had refused to allow a delegation from the International Atomic Energy Agency an additional visit to the Al-Khaber site, a senior Syrian Foreign Ministry source said that Syria had committed to allow the IAEA delegation one visit, and that if it wanted further clarification it would have to ask Syria.
The source stressed that the lies spread by the U.S. about the nuclear nature of the site were aimed at justifying the Israeli attack on the site, and at torpedoing Syria's status to the IAEA council of inspectors.
[link to www.thememriblog.org] |
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8/12/2008 7:44 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Syria arrests suspects in Suleiman assassination
Damascus security forces arrest two naval officers, hotel security chief in connection with murder of Syria's liaison officer to Hizbullah
[link to www.ynetnews.com] |
| nonmaterial structure
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8/12/2008 7:46 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Hamas leader voices opposition against rocket attacks on Israel
Mahmoud al-Zahar, a senior Hamas leader in Gaza said Tuesday that the militants who fired a makeshift rocket at Israel on Monday are collaborators with Israel.
"I believe that those who fired the rocket at Israel are collaborators with Israel in order to increase the pressure on Hamas movement and on the Palestinian people," al-Zahar told reporters in Gaza.
[link to news.xinhuanet.com] |
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8/12/2008 7:47 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Turkey awaits two-day visit by Iran president
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad will pay a two-day visit to Turkey this week for talks expected to focus on bilateral ties and Tehran's nuclear programme, a government official said Tuesday.
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8/12/2008 7:49 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Algeria Supports Iran's Pursuit of Nuclear Power, APS Says
Iran has the legitimate right to develop nuclear technology for peaceful and civil needs, like any other signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, Algerie Presse Service said, citing Algeria's President.
[link to www.bloomberg.com] |
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8/12/2008 7:59 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Israeli, Palestinian security officers hold 1st meeting in years
Palestinian and Israeli security chiefs met in the West Bank city of Jenin for the first time in years, Palestinian security sources said on Tuesday.
Palestinian senior officers participated in the meeting, took place in the main Palestinian security headquarters in Jenin, with Israeli army commander of West Bank district Brig. Gen. Noam Tibonand head of civil administration Brig. Gen. Yoav Mordechai.
[link to english.people.com.cn] |
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8/12/2008 5:12 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Israel shuts Gaza crossings but lets in cash
Israel closed border crossings with the Gaza Strip on Tuesday in response to a cross-border rocket attack, but Palestinian officials said banks were able to bring in 68 million shekels ($19 million) to ease a cash shortage.
[link to www.reuters.com] |
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8/12/2008 5:13 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Report: Israel Proposes West Bank Deal
An Israeli newspaper says Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has proposed an agreement with the Palestinians that would allow Israel to annex about seven percent of the West Bank as part of a final peace deal.
[link to www.voanews.com] |
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8/12/2008 5:16 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Syria's top cleric: Middle East peace starts in Syria
Syria is the "principal place for peace in the Arab region," Syria's top Muslim cleric said Tuesday during a meeting with visiting European Parliament President Hans-Gert Poettering.
"If Syria is in peace then the whole region is. But if it is in a state of war, the whole region will catch on fire," Syria's grand mufti Sheikh Ahmed Badr el-Din Hassoun said.
[link to www.haaretz.com] |
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8/12/2008 5:17 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Spokesman: Iran to continue talks with West
Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Hassan Qashqavi Tuesday said Iran intends to continue nuclear talks with the West in a "constructive" atmosphere, the Press TV satellite channel reported.
[link to news.xinhuanet.com] |
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8/12/2008 5:19 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
US blacklists five Iranian entities citing nuclear, missile ties
The US Treasury said Tuesday that it had imposed sanctions on five Iranian entities for alleged ties to the country's nuclear and missile programs.
Washington has already blacklisted Iranian entities and banks for their apparent links and support of Iran's nuclear programs. Tehran has steadfastly denied it is pursuing nuclear arms, and says its nuclear ambitions are peaceful.
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8/12/2008 5:22 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Turkey raises Iran gas imports amid deficit- source
Turkey will increase its imports of gas from Iran to compensate for a reduction in supplies from Azerbaijan resulting from the conflict in Georgia, a senior source from the Turkish pipeline company Botas said on Tuesday.
The same source said earlier gas in the pipeline from Azerbaijan to Turkey would continue flowing for at least a week more despite BP (BP.L: Quote, Profile, Research) halting the pumping of gas. A BP official said there were several days worth of gas in the pipeline.
[link to in.reuters.com] |
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8/13/2008 4:01 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
U.S. puts brakes on Israeli plan for Iran strike
The American administration has rejected an Israeli request for military equipment and support that would improve Israel's ability to attack Iran's nuclear facilities.
A report published last week by the Washington-based Institute for Science and International Security (ISIS) states that military strikes are unlikely to destroy Iran's centrifuge program for enriching uranium.
The Americans viewed the request, which was transmitted (and rejected) at the highest level, as a sign that Israel is in the advanced stages of preparations to attack Iran. They therefore warned Israel against attacking, saying such a strike would undermine American interests. They also demanded that Israel give them prior notice if it nevertheless decided to strike Iran.
As compensation for the requests it rejected, Washington offered to improve Israel's defenses against surface-to-surface missiles.
Israel responded by saying it reserves the right to take whatever action it deems necessary if diplomatic efforts to halt Iran's nuclearization fail.
Senior Israeli officials had originally hoped that U.S. President George Bush would order an American strike on Iran's nuclear facilities before leaving office, as America's military is far better equipped to conduct such a strike successfully than is Israel's.
[link to www.haaretz.com] |
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