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| Military Man
User ID: 121743
4/16/2008 10:34 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Military man does this mean to expect nothing until May or June? Or do we still expect the Hezbollah/Syrian attack in the next little bit? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 387009
I have evidence suggesting Israel is attacked in the next week, though it may only be a series of terror attacks, Israel will try not to react until after her birthday bash. At the same time, Assad is up to no good after looking at satellite data. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 316174
4/16/2008 10:49 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Military man does this mean to expect nothing until May or June? Or do we still expect the Hezbollah/Syrian attack in the next little bit?
I have evidence suggesting Israel is attacked in the next week, though it may only be a series of terror attacks, Israel will try not to react until after her birthday bash. At the same time, Assad is up to no good after looking at satellite data. Quoting: Military Man
Military Man,
Thankyou for your regular updates. As I mentioned before, in my opinion, Syria et al, will strike Israel on or before May 14, 2008 as they don't want Israel around to have a "birthday bash."
What do you think about that? |
| Military Man
User ID: 121743
4/16/2008 11:13 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Military man does this mean to expect nothing until May or June? Or do we still expect the Hezbollah/Syrian attack in the next little bit?
I have evidence suggesting Israel is attacked in the next week, though it may only be a series of terror attacks, Israel will try not to react until after her birthday bash. At the same time, Assad is up to no good after looking at satellite data.
Military Man,
Thankyou for your regular updates. As I mentioned before, in my opinion, Syria et al, will strike Israel on or before May 14, 2008 as they don't want Israel around to have a "birthday bash."
What do you think about that? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 316174
I hate birthdays more than you would know. Sounds like a plan.
I do think you are right, but I hate to bet the farm on it as these middleeast militaries are very unpredictable right now. |
| Military Man
User ID: 121743
4/16/2008 11:16 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
I have spoken about the use of submarines. Israel can easily score some hits on Iran with its submarines and popeye missiles.
Read This:
Could Israel use submarines against Iran?
[link to www.alertnet.org] |
| Military Man
User ID: 121743
4/16/2008 11:23 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Olmert knows something. Though it may already be too late.
PM: Iran will not be nuclear
[link to www.haaretz.com] |
| Military Man
User ID: 121743
4/16/2008 11:35 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
This assessment from last summer is still good. Syria is intending to operate attacks like the Hezbollah.
The New York Sun, meanwhile, quotes an unidentified Baath official saying, "If Israel doesn't vacate the strategic Golan Heights before September, Syrian guerillas will immediately launch 'resistance operations' against the Golan's Jewish communities." The official said "Damascus is preparing for Israeli retaliation following Syrian guerilla attacks and for a larger war with the Jewish state in August or September."
The official warns that "Syria has the capability to fire 'hundreds' of missiles at Tel Aviv in the opening salvo of any conflict." The official told the New York paper that Damascus has made numerous requests to Washington for the return of the Golan "either through negotiations or through war."
[link to www.upi.com] |
| Military Man
User ID: 121743
4/16/2008 11:50 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Here is how I summarize things right now.
"As the world's leading powers met in Shanghai Wednesday to discuss ways to persuade Iran to abandon its nuclear program, Israel and Iran were exchanging threats of war; Syria was marshalling its army near the Golan Heights; Hamas was attacking Israeli troops along the Gaza Strip; and Hezbollah was muttering about avenging the assassination two months ago of its top military commander.
Spring in the Middle East frequently raises fears of war. This year war fever is intense."
Analysis: War fever grips Middle East
[link to www.nationalpost.com] |
| Military Man
User ID: 121743
4/17/2008 12:09 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Anyone get the drift yet?
This assessment from 2006 is quite accurate of the thinking of the leadership in Israel right now.
"The Bush administration may yet come to the rescue. The “senior source” quoted by the Jeruslaem Post “did not rule out the possibility of US military action, but said that if this were to take place, it would probably not occur until the spring or summer of 2008, a few months before President George W. Bush leaves the international stage.”
Akiva Eldar has apparently heard the news about 2008 too. He sees a real possibility of “an accelerated preemptive war against Syria, before Iran is equipped with a nuclear bomb and before Tehran completes the transformation of the Syrian army into a modern army rich in new types of weaponry. According to cautious assessments, this process will take no longer than two years. Unfortunately, in the foreseeable future, we will not have a government that is capable of conducting negotiations with Syria and in the United States there is not a president who will do this for us.”
No negotiations, and a looming deadline in the summer of 2008. Eldar’s conclusion seems to sum up the prevailing thinking in the Israeli government: “Keep the shelters clean.”"
Israel Prepares for the Next War
[link to www.commondreams.org] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 316174
4/17/2008 12:12 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Barak - Israel Is Preparing For All Out War.
No hunch needed. Says it straight up! Things are going to get very interesting very fast!
[link to www.liveleak.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 316174
4/17/2008 12:23 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Barak - Israel Is Preparing For All Out War.
No hunch needed. Says it straight up! Things are going to get very interesting very fast!
[link to www.liveleak.com] |
| Military Man
User ID: 121743
4/17/2008 12:42 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Barak - Israel Is Preparing For All Out War.
No hunch needed. Says it straight up! Things are going to get very interesting very fast!
[ link to www.liveleak.com]
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| Military Man
User ID: 121743
4/17/2008 12:54 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Tick Tock tick Tock Tick Tock, the timer is set, it will soon go off.
Police on highest alert ahead of Pessah
In the shadow of terrorist threats emanating from Hizbullah in the North to the Sinai Peninsula in the South, police districts around the country have gone on their highest level of alert ahead of Pessah holiday and Israel's 60th Independence Day celebrations, which follow soon afterward.
[link to www.jpost.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 417070
4/17/2008 2:05 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Military man does this mean to expect nothing until May or June? Or do we still expect the Hezbollah/Syrian attack in the next little bit?
I have evidence suggesting Israel is attacked in the next week, though it may only be a series of terror attacks, Israel will try not to react until after her birthday bash. At the same time, Assad is up to no good after looking at satellite data. Quoting: Military Man
There is always terror warnings every holiday and day ...... and about they bday bash thats what ive said all along..... these terror alerts arnt quite speical they come and go each holiday concret and general in style.... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 387009
4/17/2008 8:11 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 387009
4/17/2008 8:39 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Military Man I thought you would find this interesting. Iran knows what's coming and is certainly getting ready to cover it.
[link to www.themedialine.org] |
| Military Man
User ID: 121743
4/17/2008 8:58 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Military Man I thought you would find this interesting. Iran knows what's coming and is certainly getting ready to cover it.
[ link to www.themedialine.org]
Another dot. However, reporters are not the only thing being trained in Iran. In fact the reporters do not need trained, but instead shall be expected to carry out attacks themselves if the opportunity presents itself. Remember the day before 9-11 the leader of the anti-Taliban was killed by a reporter with a bomb. |
| Military Man
User ID: 121743
4/17/2008 9:00 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Yesterday Assad said there would not be a war.
Today he says:
"My country is preparing for war with Israel, this is a real possibility," Syrian President Bashar Assad said at a conference in Damascus, but added that he does not expect such a war to occur "in the present circumstances." Assad's prognosis was reported by Hizbullah's TV station, Al-Manar.
Tomorrow the present circumstances will change. That is what he is waiting for. Of course he is not going to say, yes we are going to war until after the attack has started. Wonder what his travel schedule looks like over the next two weeks? |
| Señor Ding-Dong
User ID: 417575
4/17/2008 9:09 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Yesterday Assad said there would not be a war.
Today he says:
"My country is preparing for war with Israel, this is a real possibility," Syrian President Bashar Assad said at a conference in Damascus, but added that he does not expect such a war to occur "in the present circumstances." Assad's prognosis was reported by Hizbullah's TV station, Al-Manar.
Tomorrow the present circumstances will change. That is what he is waiting for. Of course he is not going to say, yes we are going to war until after the attack has started. Wonder what his travel schedule looks like over the next two weeks? Quoting: Military Man
He should pack for some time with the virgins. Syria is about to impale itself on it's own sword - becoming an Iranian proxy was a fatal mistake for the Baathists. What Assad is really doing is providing an excuse for Israel to remove it's arch-enemy from the scene PERMANENTLY. Syria is goin' down, and they only have Assad to blame.. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 316174
4/17/2008 9:15 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Yesterday Assad said there would not be a war.
Today he says:
"My country is preparing for war with Israel, this is a real possibility," Syrian President Bashar Assad said at a conference in Damascus, but added that he does not expect such a war to occur "in the present circumstances." Assad's prognosis was reported by Hizbullah's TV station, Al-Manar.
Tomorrow the present circumstances will change. That is what he is waiting for. Of course he is not going to say, yes we are going to war until after the attack has started. Wonder what his travel schedule looks like over the next two weeks? Quoting: Military Man
MM: Wonder what his travel schedule looks like over the next two weeks?
[link to www.tubafrenzy.org] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 417589
4/17/2008 9:29 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
MM,
Tomarrow = friday lol
what will happen tomarrow?
btw my mom called me and told me that on the main street of our town a block over theres a suspious package and they go the street blocked off... quiet common in israel for suspious packages to be found and always blown up just in case....
happens to often for it to be news worthy ... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 415225
4/17/2008 11:39 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Hezbollah official speaks of possible Israeli attack along Lebanese Syrian borders
From maquiladora | 04/17/2008 8:05:46 AM PDT replied
BEIRUT, April 17 (Xinhua) — A Hezbollah official has spoken about possible Israeli infiltration towards the Lebanese-Syrian boarders, local Elnashra news website reported on Thursday.
“Syrian forces are trained on fighting in Hezbollah style,” Sheikh Nabil Kaouke, a senior Hezbollah official responsible for south Lebanon area, was quoted as saying, adding that the Syrians will expand the battle to the Golan Heights.
Ruling out an Israeli military strike on Iran, Kaouke said if the Israelis move towards the boarders, the Syrian forces will be ready.
He said Israel is avoiding for the time being any “provocation” until May 15, when celebrations of the Israeli state anniversary are over.
During these celebrations, heads of states such as the American and French presidents will attend, thus, Israel would avoid problems, Kaouke added.
[link to news.xinhuanet.com] |
| JoeNeubarth
User ID: 369114
4/17/2008 11:43 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
You don't get it- Israel are the bad guys.And so are the US. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 318585
You do not get it. God, Jehovah, says that the followers of Satan, The Moon God, are the bad guys.
I know that Jehovah is right and Allah is wrong. Death to Allah. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 387009
4/17/2008 11:48 AM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Military man I noticed that Barak had ordered full closure of some areas starting tonight based on threats ahead of Passover. I am assuming that they have credible info on threats ranging from tonight through Sunday? Can you shed any light on where these are from Hamas,Syria,Hezbollah or Iran? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 415225
4/17/2008 12:20 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Palestinians fire at trucks transporting fuel to Gaza
Despite complaints of fuel shortages, terrorists attempt to disrupt fuel supply to Strip
Hanan Greenberg Published: 04.17.08, 18:45 / Israel News
Shooting themselves in the foot: Only a week after the lethal terror attack at the Nahal Oz fuel terminal, and after complaining of fuel shortages, terror groups are again targeting Israelis supplying fuel to the Gaza Strip.
Thursday afternoon, Palestinians opened fire at trucks transporting fuel to the Strip at the Nahal Oz fuel terminal. No injuries or damages were reported in the latest attack.
Gaza Strip
Israel resumes fuel shipments to Gaza / Associated Press
Despite bloody clashes between IDF troops, Palestinian gunmen earlier on Wednesday, Israel renews supply of fuel, cooking oil to Strip
Full Story
The fuel supply to Gaza was renewed on Wednesday, after the transport of diesel fuel was halted for a week. On Monday, Defense Minister Ehud Barak ordered that the fuel supply to the Gaza power station be renewed. The decision was taken after Egyptian authorities requested the move.
Power outages in Gaza City
Two days ago, a temporary agreement was reached that would see IDF forces secure the fuel terminal until a permanent solution is found vis-à-vis the Dor Energy company, which operates the fuel terminal. The army secures the area on a permanent basis, but the agreement calls for the IDF to provide security within the facility as well.
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Despite Palestinian complaints of fuel shortages, security officials have noted that fuel reserves are still available in the Strip. On Tuesday, the Palestinian electrical company cut out the power to some areas, prompting power outages in sections of Gaza City and in the northern part of the Strip
[link to www.ynetnews.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 417589
4/17/2008 12:44 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Military man I noticed that Barak had ordered full closure of some areas starting tonight based on threats ahead of Passover. I am assuming that they have credible info on threats ranging from tonight through Sunday? Can you shed any light on where these are from Hamas,Syria,Hezbollah or Iran? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 387009
I can answer that for you ..... It is SOP every holiday they close the territories and there is always terror threats when the holidays come around here. Nothing special about this closure they close it every holiday every single major one... |
| Military Man
User ID: 121743
4/17/2008 1:58 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Hezbollah official speaks of possible Israeli attack along Lebanese Syrian borders
From maquiladora | 04/17/2008 8:05:46 AM PDT replied
BEIRUT, April 17 (Xinhua) — A Hezbollah official has spoken about possible Israeli infiltration towards the Lebanese-Syrian boarders, local Elnashra news website reported on Thursday.
“Syrian forces are trained on fighting in Hezbollah style,” Sheikh Nabil Kaouke, a senior Hezbollah official responsible for south Lebanon area, was quoted as saying, adding that the Syrians will expand the battle to the Golan Heights.
Ruling out an Israeli military strike on Iran, Kaouke said if the Israelis move towards the boarders, the Syrian forces will be ready.
He said Israel is avoiding for the time being any “provocation” until May 15, when celebrations of the Israeli state anniversary are over.
During these celebrations, heads of states such as the American and French presidents will attend, thus, Israel would avoid problems, Kaouke added.
[ link to news.xinhuanet.com]
Good catch. This is why in the short-term, I would expect the trouble to brew from Israel's enemies. Why would they not raise the heat while World leaders visit Israel. |
| Military Man
User ID: 121743
4/17/2008 2:08 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
Military man I noticed that Barak had ordered full closure of some areas starting tonight based on threats ahead of Passover. I am assuming that they have credible info on threats ranging from tonight through Sunday? Can you shed any light on where these are from Hamas,Syria,Hezbollah or Iran? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 387009
Right now there are only 10 real terror threats. Many times during the holidays, there are 15 - 20 terror threats that are credible.
Hamas and other PA entities will always try new homicide bombings, but Israel is pretty good at preventing these. Instead, the attacks will come from missiles, mortars, and now there are threats of ieds being used in and near Israel by the enemies. Hezbollah or another entity associated with them are feared to launch either missile attacks or even a cross-border attack like the Hamas did yesterday (just enough to get noticed, but not enough for Israel to respond). Syria, on the other hand has chemical weapons and possibly a few nukes ready for launching, but these prized possessions are awaiting orders from Iran. Assad has even said, circumstances are not such (YET!), he must wait for an Iranian order. In the short-term, Syria may also conduct some cross border attacks, mimicking the Hezbollah prior to the 2006 summer war. They are all waiting for the ultimate terror attack to be successful to launch their war. Thus, be prepared that a shocking attack will come, if successful, it will start the ignition to the 2008 War. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 415225
4/17/2008 2:26 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
20:05 Foreign Affairs and Defense Cmte. Chair Hanegbi: IDF must recapture Gaza (Haaretz)
this guy is on Olmert's cabinet
this is either
1) preparing the public
OR
2) internal discord |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 415225
4/17/2008 2:30 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
this kind of puts a fly in the ointment of any peace deal -
[link to www.ynetnews.com]
Netanyahu: I won't carry out an Olmert-Abbas peace deal if elected
Opposition leader favored by polls to sweep elections if held today rejects proposal to divide Jerusalem, says would toss out agreement between current PM, Palestinians
Opposition Chairman Benjamin Netanyahu has said if he is elected prime minister, he won't carry out any peace deal with the Palestinians reached by the current Israeli leader, Ehud Olmert, the Makor Rishon daily reported on Thursday.
Fighting Words?
Netanyahu: Israel suffers from lack of leadership / Amnon Meranda
In Likud event ahead of Passover, opposition leader paints gloomy picture of Israeli reality: 'Security is flawed, the government's policy is detached from reality, the economy is in a state of retreat and education is collapsing'
Full Story
Netanyahu told the paper that he would regard the election as a referendum on any such accord.
If Olmert doesn't win, ''then you cannot cynically and manipulatively force upon the people a move they do not want,'' Netanyahu said.
Polls show that if elections were held today, Netanyahu would handily beat both Olmert and the Labor Party's chairman, Defense Minister Ehud Barak.
Netanyahu, leader of the hawkish Likud Party, also rejected the notion of sharing sovereignty over disputed Jerusalem with the Palestinians. ''I can say categorically that I will not divide Jerusalem,'' he said.
Olmert and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas relaunched peace negotiations in November after a seven-year breakdown, and promised US President George W. Bush to try to reach a deal by December. Both sides have suggested that goal is overly ambitious.
On Thursday, Olmert told Israeli TV stations that his goal in peace negotiations is creation of a Palestinian state next to Israel.
Israeli elections are not scheduled until late 2010. But Olmert's hold on power is shaky, and elections could be moved up, largely because some members of his coalition oppose sweeping territorial concessions to the Palestinians |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 316174
4/17/2008 2:30 PM | | Re: War Thread - The Official Israel v. Syria, Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas War Thread 2008. | Quote |
You don't get it- Israel are the bad guys.And so are the US.
You do not get it. God, Jehovah, says that the followers of Satan, The Moon God, are the bad guys.
I know that Jehovah is right and Allah is wrong. Death to Allah. Quoting: JoeNeubarth
Amen! |
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