Proof from 1981 as to the nature of "Chemtrails". | |
G. House (OP) User ID: 417049 United States 04/16/2008 04:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 272356 United States 04/16/2008 04:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's because books are a tool of the NWO; or wait, the Illuminati; no, the Reptiles, that's it- to, uh, make us think things that aren't real, and take over the world to uh, let me get back to you on the rest. Good post. I've got the clouds and storms field guide which mentions if contrails are increasing,a strong weather system may be moving toward the region. Never had much interest in them (con/chemtrails), not a lot of them on the outskirts of Chi-town. Oh wait, the weather is manipulated by the guys above! |
G. House (OP) User ID: 417049 United States 04/16/2008 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's because books are a tool of the NWO; or wait, the Illuminati; no, the Reptiles, that's it- to, uh, make us think things that aren't real, and take over the world to uh, let me get back to you on the rest. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 272356Good post. I've got the clouds and storms field guide which mentions if contrails are increasing,a strong weather system may be moving toward the region. Never had much interest in them (con/chemtrails), not a lot of them on the outskirts of Chi-town. Oh wait, the weather is manipulated by the guys above! Thanks! "Everybody lies." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 404921 United States 04/16/2008 05:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No comment from the chemtrailers? Quoting: G. HouseYeah, go run and hide! sponsered by the National Audubon Society? lmao oh we cn trust this folks go troll somewhere else heres an idea, how bout you go get a fucking JOB... do you know what that is? to bad some useless book can't touch these patents so FUCK OFF and try, try again FEBUARY 22, 1977 Combustible compositions for generating aerosols, particularly suitable for cloud modification and weather control and aerosolization process Document Type and Number:United States Patent RE29142 Link to this page: [link to www.freepatentsonline.com] Abstract:A combustible composition for generating aerosols for the control and modification of weather conditions consisting of a readily oxidizable substance selected from the group consisting of aluminum, magnesium, alkali-metals and alkaline earth metals; an oxidizing agent selected from the groups consisting of: (a) sulphur and sulphur yielding compounds; and (b) organic and inorganic nitrates, alkali-metal and ammonium chlorates and perchlorates; The molar ratio of the oxidizable substance to the oxidizing agent being between 1.5:1 and 3.5:1 and a stable hygroscopic solid which does not directly participate in the combustion process of the combustible composition, said hygroscopic solid being present in an amount up to 40% of the total weight of the combustible composition, the oxidizable substance, the oxidizing agent and the hygroscopic substance having a particle size in the range of from -140 to +270 mesh, and a primer initiating the combustion of said composition whereby during combustion, a finely dispersed aerosol smoke consisting of moderately hygroscopic condensation nuclei, and a non-hygroscopic gas are simultaneously evolved, said gas acting to disperse said nuclei. AUGUST 12, 1975 Powder contrail generation Document Type and Number:United States Patent 3899144 Link to this page: [link to www.freepatentsonline.com] Abstract:Light scattering pigment powder particles, surface treated to minimize inparticle cohesive forces, are dispensed from a jet mill deagglomerator as separate single particles to produce a powder contrail having maximum visibility or radiation scattering ability for a given weight material. |
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Duncan Kunz User ID: 328931 United States 04/16/2008 05:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So how does this tie in with the FEMA camps and the Secret Hole in Antarctica that leads to the Inner Earth? I mean, that's part of the deal, too, right? And how about the International House of Pancakes? Let's see you debunk that, Mr. G. House!!!! Where's the EVIDENCE, Jim? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 364269 United States 04/16/2008 05:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 413358 United States 04/16/2008 05:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tell me exactly why they need a U.S. Patent? |
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Gremlin User ID: 323645 United States 04/16/2008 05:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Part of the problem with the Contrail/Chemtrail controversy is the the USAF reformulated their jet fuel in 1996. [link to en.wikipedia.org] The new mixture contains a known toxin that was banned for use as a pesticide. "WHAT'S IN CHEMTRAILS? Part of the substances in the chemtrails have been identified: a cocktail of JP8+100 jet fuel, laced with Ethylene Dibromide (EDB). This chemical pesticide was banned in 1983 by the EPA as a definite carcinogen and chemical toxin. Exposure to this type spraying can include these symptoms: * respiratory tract problems * severe infections to the throat and sinuses * swelling of the lymph glands * coughing fits * shortness of breath * sinus headaches * general respiratory failure * damage to the heart and liver * exposure to EDB makes people more susceptible to other biological agents due to severe lung irritation." [link to www.rense.com] Air Force refueling technicians have been warneed not to come into contact with JP8, yet large amounts of unburned fuel are released into our atmosphere with every flight, especially when afterburners are used. Additionally, Barium has been measured in the particulate matter collected from Chemtrails and Eilsen AFB in Alaska has been under fire for dumping huge amounts of Barium. [link to www.rense.com] |
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G. House (OP) User ID: 414039 United States 04/16/2008 07:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, some elite masterminds that control the world are poisoning people via chemtrails. Ok, I got that part. They work under such secrecy as to be able to operate without anyone knowing how or why they are doing it. Got that too. The all powerful are doing this. Ok. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 413358Tell me exactly why they need a U.S. Patent? Extremely good point!! "Everybody lies." |
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G. House (OP) User ID: 414039 United States 04/16/2008 07:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FEBUARY 22, 1977 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 404921Combustible compositions for generating aerosols, particularly suitable for cloud modification and weather control and aerosolization process Document Type and Number:United States Patent RE29142 Link to this page: [link to www.freepatentsonline.com] Abstract:A combustible composition for generating aerosols for the control and modification of weather conditions consisting of a readily oxidizable substance selected from the group consisting of aluminum, magnesium, alkali-metals and alkaline earth metals; an oxidizing agent selected from the groups consisting of: (a) sulphur and sulphur yielding compounds; and (b) organic and inorganic nitrates, alkali-metal and ammonium chlorates and perchlorates; The molar ratio of the oxidizable substance to the oxidizing agent being between 1.5:1 and 3.5:1 and a stable hygroscopic solid which does not directly participate in the combustion process of the combustible composition, said hygroscopic solid being present in an amount up to 40% of the total weight of the combustible composition, the oxidizable substance, the oxidizing agent and the hygroscopic substance having a particle size in the range of from -140 to +270 mesh, and a primer initiating the combustion of said composition whereby during combustion, a finely dispersed aerosol smoke consisting of moderately hygroscopic condensation nuclei, and a non-hygroscopic gas are simultaneously evolved, said gas acting to disperse said nuclei. What you basically have there is a patent for a flare to be used for cloud seeding. What does this have to do with what you people are calling chemtrails? By the way, cloud seeding operations usually take place within clouds. Actually kind of hard to watch them do it. Yet chemtrails are claimed to be "sprayed" in plain sight. I don't get the connection. "Everybody lies." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 364269 United States 04/16/2008 07:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All you did was show that some persistant contrails can exist. You did not prove that chemtrails don't. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 310117Evolution is held back because of people like you. Now go do the right thing... "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit". |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 364269 United States 04/16/2008 08:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All you did was show that some persistant contrails can exist. You did not prove that chemtrails don't. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 310117Evolution is held back because of people like you. Now go do the right thing... Well, there's all the proof I needed. lol |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 375119 United States 04/16/2008 08:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Part of the problem with the Contrail/Chemtrail controversy is the the USAF reformulated their jet fuel in 1996. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Quoting: Gremlin 323645The new mixture contains a known toxin that was banned for use as a pesticide. "WHAT'S IN CHEMTRAILS? Part of the substances in the chemtrails have been identified: a cocktail of JP8+100 jet fuel, laced with Ethylene Dibromide (EDB). This chemical pesticide was banned in 1983 by the EPA as a definite carcinogen and chemical toxin. Exposure to this type spraying can include these symptoms: * respiratory tract problems * severe infections to the throat and sinuses * swelling of the lymph glands * coughing fits * shortness of breath * sinus headaches * general respiratory failure * damage to the heart and liver * exposure to EDB makes people more susceptible to other biological agents due to severe lung irritation." [link to www.rense.com] Air Force refueling technicians have been warneed not to come into contact with JP8, yet large amounts of unburned fuel are released into our atmosphere with every flight, especially when afterburners are used. Additionally, Barium has been measured in the particulate matter collected from Chemtrails and Eilsen AFB in Alaska has been under fire for dumping huge amounts of Barium. [link to www.rense.com] Rense and Wikipedia quotes won't convince me. You might as well be saying "well, my brother in law told me..." |
G. House (OP) User ID: 414039 United States 04/16/2008 08:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now at the end of the video they ask you to vist their website as they promote "cloudbusters". When you go to the website one of the available pages is this one: [link to www.ctbusters.com] Talk about charlaten opportunists!! By the way the aircraft shown in the video is well known as an air sampling aircraft, it doesn't spray anything. "Everybody lies." |
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Anarchy Rising User ID: 413733 Canada 04/16/2008 08:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So how does this tie in with the FEMA camps and the Secret Hole in Antarctica that leads to the Inner Earth? Quoting: Duncan KunzI mean, that's part of the deal, too, right? And how about the International House of Pancakes? Let's see you debunk that, Mr. G. House!!!! In the future Duncun, try not to revolve all your chem trail conversations around a facility that manages Pancake batter. I know it`s difficult for you to not discuss Pancake batter, it`s probably your second calling after being a shill, but for the sake of chem trails make a fruitful effort. |
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Anarchy Rising. User ID: 413733 Canada 04/16/2008 09:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow... these "debunkers" (shills) certainly are rabid, aren't they. They seem absolutely OBSESSED with proving a "supposed" negative. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 417174That, and apparently, all you can eat fried pancake batter coated in syrup. If I got paid around $300,000 a year to debunk stuff on the internet, i`d at least go to a French restaurant. |
The Guy User ID: 349666 United States 04/16/2008 09:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All you did was show that some persistant contrails can exist. You did not prove that chemtrails don't. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 364269No, that's not how it works. You claim chemtrails exist, you have to prove it. It's good to be open-minded, just don't let your brain fall out. |
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Anarchy Rising. User ID: 413733 Canada 04/16/2008 09:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All you did was show that some persistant contrails can exist. You did not prove that chemtrails don't. Quoting: The GuyNo, that's not how it works. You claim chemtrails exist, you have to prove it. No, unfortunately seeing is believing, and when people see chem trails and look at the shit inside the chem trails with microscopes and take slides and see the metals and biology, thats proof. Everyone else who debunks is just wasting their own precious life energy trying to sweep the dirt under the rug for whoever pays them. The debunker's have a shitty job, they get paid to lose life energy trying to hide something that can`t be hidden hahahahaha... (thats why all the paid shills are all diseased and unhealthy and only attract diseased people in their lives.) Look at how many meds G. House needs to take to keep his depression from rising. All probably because of GLP and his futile campaign. Is it really worth the dinero. Debunker's lose the chem trail battle. Throw in your bibs. The winners won. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 364269 United States 04/16/2008 09:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All you did was show that some persistant contrails can exist. You did not prove that chemtrails don't. Quoting: The GuyNo, that's not how it works. You claim chemtrails exist, you have to prove it. Actually, you are the one saying that all the X'es, all the grid patterns, all the streaks in the sky that spread out over hours and completely haze up the sky day in and day out are all nothing but persistant contrails. I would say that your claim requires the proof. |
The Guy User ID: 349666 United States 04/16/2008 09:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, unfortunately seeing is believing, and when people see chem trails and look at the shit inside the chem trails with microscopes and take slides and see the metals and biology, thats proof. Quoting: Anarchy Rising. 413733Everyone else who debunks is just wasting their own precious life energy trying to sweep the dirt under the rug for whoever pays them. The debunker's have a shitty job, they get paid to lose life energy trying to hide something that can`t be hidden hahahahaha... (thats why all the paid shills are all diseased and unhealthy and only attract diseased people in their lives.) Look at how many meds G. House needs to take to keep his depression from rising. All probably because of GLP and his futile campaign. Is it really worth the dinero. Debunker's lose the chem trail battle. Throw in your bibs. The winners won. Really? They've taken samples actually from inside an alleged chemtrail? It's good to be open-minded, just don't let your brain fall out. |