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Food Shortage in the USA!

 
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Food Rationing Confronts Breadbasket of the World
By JOSH GERSTEIN, Staff Reporter of the Sun | April 21, 2008

MOUNTAIN VIEW, Calif. — Many parts of America, long considered the breadbasket of the world, are now confronting a once unthinkable phenomenon: food rationing.

Major retailers in New York, in areas of New England, and on the West Coast are limiting purchases of flour, rice, and cooking oil as demand outstrips supply. There are also anecdotal reports that some consumers are hoarding grain stocks.

At a Costco Warehouse in Mountain View, Calif., yesterday, shoppers grew frustrated and occasionally uttered expletives as they searched in vain for the large sacks of rice they usually buy.

“Where’s the rice?” an engineer from Palo Alto, Calif., Yajun Liu, said. “You should be able to buy something like rice. This is ridiculous.”

The bustling store in the heart of Silicon Valley usually sells four or five varieties of rice to a clientele largely of Asian immigrants, but only about half a pallet of Indian-grown Basmati rice was left in stock. A 20-pound bag was selling for $15.99.

“You can’t eat this every day. It’s too heavy,” a health care executive from Palo Alto, Sharad Patel, grumbled as his son loaded two sacks of the Basmati into a shopping cart. “We only need one bag but I’m getting two in case a neighbor or a friend needs it,” the elder man said.

The Patels seemed headed for disappointment, as most Costco members were being allowed to buy only one bag. Moments earlier, a clerk dropped two sacks back on the stack after taking them from another customer who tried to exceed the one-bag cap.

“Due to the limited availability of rice, we are limiting rice purchases based on your prior purchasing history,” a sign above the dwindling supply said.

Shoppers said the limits had been in place for a few days, and that rice supplies had been spotty for a few weeks. A store manager referred questions to officials at Costco headquarters near Seattle, who did not return calls or e-mail messages yesterday.

An employee at the Costco store in Queens said there were no restrictions on rice buying, but limits were being imposed on purchases of oil and flour. Internet postings attributed some of the shortage at the retail level to bakery owners who flocked to warehouse stores when the price of flour from commercial suppliers doubled.

The curbs and shortages are being tracked with concern by survivalists who view the phenomenon as a harbinger of more serious trouble to come.

“It’s sporadic. It’s not every store, but it’s becoming more commonplace,” the editor of SurvivalBlog.com, James Rawles, said. “The number of reports I’ve been getting from readers who have seen signs posted with limits has increased almost exponentially, I’d say in the last three to five weeks.”

Spiking food prices have led to riots in recent weeks in Haiti, Indonesia, and several African nations. India recently banned export of all but the highest quality rice, and Vietnam blocked the signing of new contract for foreign rice sales.

“I’m surprised the Bush administration hasn’t slapped export controls on wheat,” Mr. Rawles said. “The Asian countries are here buying every kind of wheat.”

Mr. Rawles said it is hard to know how much of the shortages are due to lagging supply and how much is caused by consumers hedging against future price hikes or a total lack of product.

“There have been so many stories about worldwide shortages that it encourages people to stock up. What most people don’t realize is that supply chains have changed, so inventories are very short,” Mr. Rawles, a former Army intelligence officer, said. “Even if people increased their purchasing by 20%, all the store shelves would be wiped out.”

At the moment, large chain retailers seem more prone to shortages and limits than do smaller chains and mom-and-pop stores, perhaps because store managers at the larger companies have less discretion to increase prices locally.

Mr. Rawles said the spot shortages seemed to be most frequent in the Northeast and all the way along the West Coast. He said he had heard reports of buying limits at Sam’s Club warehouses, which are owned by Wal-Mart Stores, but a spokesman for the company, Kory Lundberg, said he was not aware of any shortages or limits.

An anonymous high-tech professional writing on an investment Web site, Seeking Alpha, said he recently bought 10 50-pound bags of rice at Costco. “I am concerned that when the news of rice shortage spreads, there will be panic buying and the shelves will be empty in no time. I do not intend to cause a panic, and I am not speculating on rice to make profit. I am just hoarding some for my own consumption,” he wrote.

For now, rice is available at Asian markets in California, though consumers have fewer choices when buying the largest bags. “At our neighborhood store, it’s very expensive, more than $30” for a 25-pound bag, a housewife from Mountain View, Theresa Esquerra, said. “I’m not going to pay $30. Maybe we’ll just eat bread.”
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H,mmmm my cuboards look a little empty too
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bump tnx for the info. it was a great read
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not good..
And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.
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notice that the staples are running short but there's no run on junkfood so most ppl won't get it until the Doritos and pastry start disappearing from the shelves. They will REALLY wake up when beer starts being rationed. Hang on folks. It's gonna be a long, hungry ride here in the US as well, it's just taking longer. Better get to the store and get rice now and pinto beans, dried milk and so on. After work I'm heading off to the stores again.....if I have anything left over after I stop to get gas 8-O
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Fat Ass America 60%+ obese

bump
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Two rat burgers with fries please waiter
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Better get you supplies of food while you can. As when the dorito's run out and the twinkies are gone all those MSG people having withdrawls will be after your rice and other foods.
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Better get you supplies of food while you can. As when the dorito's run out and the twinkies are gone all those MSG people having withdrawls will be after your rice and other foods.
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possibly eyeing you with an unwholesome dietary view
Nice looking pair of drum sticks you have, kinda thing
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I stocked up on that months ago. I have not even used it yet.
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Someone still said "I'm suprised the Bush admin....." LOL
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If you guys are going to stock up on food, do it right. Buying a dozen can goods and a couple bags of rice is not going to do the trick.

Also, if they shut down the power grid, how are you going to cook it? This question is for those that don't live in the Country or have easy access to go outside and start a little stove fire.

You need to get a small portable camp stove (like this one: [link to www.rei.com] ) with extra fuel containers in order to counter the no electricity issue unless you enjoy eating cold MREs and soup. And don't forget about water supply. That means a water filtration system AND water containers already filled.
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I live in an apartment but I'm growing a potato

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Bah, linked messed up. Go to REI website and type: 7090780011 in the search bar to see what I picked up.
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I live in an apartment but I'm growing a potato

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lol you're so dead
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I live in New Hampshire and I went to the market this weekend and there was plenty of food, staples, and no rationing...
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I live in New Hampshire and I went to the market this weekend and there was plenty of food, staples, and no rationing...
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Some places will be slow to catch up on the price increase. If the shit hits the fan big time, grocery stores will have nothing on the shelf in a matter of a few hours. How many are in a position to comfortably take this risk?
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I live in New Hampshire and I went to the market this weekend and there was plenty of food, staples, and no rationing...


Some places will be slow to catch up on the price increase. If the shit hits the fan big time, grocery stores will have nothing on the shelf in a matter of a few hours. How many are in a position to comfortably take this risk?
 Quoting: Dr Cloak 412309


I was referring to the below part of the article...it makes it appear that we in New England are having issues purchasing food and in NH we are not..having said that I agree that it wouldn't be long for the shelves to run bare.

Major retailers in New York, in areas of New England, and on the West Coast are limiting purchases of flour, rice, and cooking oil as demand outstrips supply. There are also anecdotal reports that some consumers are hoarding grain stocks.
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its all relative..... if you grow something and make things, you contribute to abundance... rather than eat your way to lack
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If you guys are going to stock up on food, do it right. Buying a dozen can goods and a couple bags of rice is not going to do the trick.

Also, if they shut down the power grid, how are you going to cook it? This question is for those that don't live in the Country or have easy access to go outside and start a little stove fire.

You need to get a small portable camp stove (like this one: [link to www.rei.com] ) with extra fuel containers in order to counter the no electricity issue unless you enjoy eating cold MREs and soup. And don't forget about water supply. That means a water filtration system AND water containers already filled.
 Quoting: Dr Cloak 412309


ELECTRICITY. We will not have any soon. Do you know how vulnerable the grid is? Any little thing can and will shut it down. Think Miami a couple months ago, within minutes 4 million people were without power in a hot and humid city dependant on elevators, traffic lights, air conditioning, etc. The poster had a great point about thinking ahead as to how to cook the food you've stockpiled. Rice also needs a lot of water to boil it in. Don't forget the tangentials. You are right on, Dr. Cloak!
"From that time Jesus began to preach and say, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17
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“I’m surprised the Bush administration hasn’t slapped export controls on wheat,” Mr. Rawles said. “The Asian countries are here buying every kind of wheat.”

Mr. Rawles said it is hard to know how much of the shortages are due to lagging supply and how much is caused by consumers hedging against future price hikes or a total lack of product.

“There have been so many stories about worldwide shortages that it encourages people to stock up. What most people don’t realize is that supply chains have changed, so inventories are very short,” Mr. Rawles, a former Army intelligence officer, said. “Even if people increased their purchasing by 20%, all the store shelves would be wiped out.”
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Claims of rice shortages, where is the explanation of , WHY?
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I live in an apartment but I'm growing a potato

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lol you're so dead
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Claims of rice shortages, where is the explanation of , WHY?
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All the developed countries including the Asian ones have ceased all food exports! They are reserving it for their own people.

The U.S. relies on around 30% of food imports. This means we no longer have that 30% coming in. We are the only developed country that is continuing to export food as well.

Do you see the apparent anti-logic in this? lol

We lose 30% of imported food, and we continue to export our food at the same rate (as well as supplying money to the UN to alleviate the global food shortage).

The explanation of the shortages from a global perspective are a couple of reasons. The crop intakes in the past few years have been low across the board (some of this due to drought). In addition, a portion of this crop was converted for biofuels lol.
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Who cares about some damn rice. Any grain, together with any bean, makes a complete protein, equal to meat and easier to digest.
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after all is finito there will be HUMABEEF on the menu kids !!

better stock up food while you can get it ppl !

even where i live and i live in a very VERY VERY rich country , the food shortage is noticed .

its like this all over the world

makes me wonder why they built this thing

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THINK THE MOSLEMS ARE GONNA BE OK BECAUSE THEY FAST ALOT ON RAHMADAN - HAHHAHAH

THE FIRST DAY : THE MOTHER IS GONNA FEED THE CHILDREN

THE SECOND DAY : THE MOTHER IS GONNA FEED THEM MORE .

THE THIRD DAY : THE MOTHER IS GONNA EAT SOME HERE SELF .

AND AFTER A 7 DAYS . ONE OF THE CHILDREN WILL BE MISSING .

AND ON THE LAST DAY THERS GONNA BE HUMABEEF ON THE MENU KIDS .

MAN IS GONNA BECOME MAN EATER AND FROM STARS BEYOND THERE WAS A GREAT FIRE THAT CAME . *NOSTRADAMUS * LOL
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I won't believe it until I see more than the occasional thin person walk down the street. Even a person of normal weight. Mostly all I see is fatties!
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Container gardens. Dried beans are actually seeds. To make more dried beans. The potato is doing great. It's in a bag of potting mix and it's first leaves have sprouted up. I also have herbs. I plan to go and get more seeds when I get paid in may.
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Like you can't go from store to store and bring some buddies and get whatever you want. Please.
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Finally, some honest to God DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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