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Drudge: America faces food rationing?
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LouisWinthorpeIII 
Self apointed knowitall
User ID: 384893
4/21/2008 9:06 PM
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I know people forget just how close we are to chaos........
Ask anyone that’s been hit by a hurricane. It takes about 3 days for the collapse of civilization...
This doesn’t bode well.
"I don't know which was scarier...the speech...or the Congress cheering it. He evoked Lincoln. Whenever a President is going to get us into serious trouble...they always use Lincoln."
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 414983
4/21/2008 9:07 PM | | Re: Drudge: America faces food rationing? | Quote |
Oh please, this doom sounds just like the bank runs that were "supposed" to happen. Give me a break. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 420699
Yeah, maybe, but this time it's actually happening. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 342843 (OP)
4/21/2008 9:08 PM | | Re: Drudge: America faces food rationing? | Quote |
Drudge now linking to this article... it's hitting Japan too.
[link to business.theage.com.au]
Japan's hunger becomes a dire warning for other nations
April 21, 2008
MARIKO Watanabe admits she could have chosen a better time to take up baking. This week, when the Tokyo housewife visited her local Ito-Yokado supermarket to buy butter to make a cake, she found the shelves bare.
"I went to another supermarket, and then another, and there was no butter at those either. Everywhere I went there were notices saying Japan has run out of butter. I couldn't believe it — this is the first time in my life I've wanted to try baking cakes and I can't get any butter," said the frustrated cook.
Japan's acute butter shortage, which has confounded bakeries, restaurants and now families across the country, is the latest unforeseen result of the global agricultural commodities crisis.
A sharp increase in the cost of imported cattle feed and a decline in milk imports, both of which are typically provided in large part by Australia, have prevented dairy farmers from keeping pace with demand.
While soaring food prices have triggered rioting among the starving millions of the third world, in wealthy Japan they have forced a pampered population to contemplate the shocking possibility of a long-term — perhaps permanent — reduction in the quality and quantity of its food.
A 130% rise in the global cost of wheat in the past year, caused partly by surging demand from China and India and a huge injection of speculative funds into wheat futures, has forced the Government to hit flour millers with three rounds of stiff mark-ups. The latest — a 30% increase this month — has given rise to speculation that Japan, which relies on imports for 90% of its annual wheat consumption, is no longer on the brink of a food crisis, but has fallen off the cliff.
According to one government poll, 80% of Japanese are frightened about what the future holds for their food supply.
Last week, as the prices of wheat and barley continued their relentless climb, the Japanese Government discovered it had exhausted its ¥230 billion ($A2.37 billion) budget for the grains with two months remaining. It was forced to call on an emergency ¥55 billion reserve to ensure it could continue feeding the nation.
"This was the first time the Government has had to take such drastic action since the war," said Akio Shibata, an expert on food imports, who warned the Agriculture Ministry two years ago that Japan would have to cut back drastically on its sophisticated diet if it did not become more self-sufficient.
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[link to business.theage.com.au] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 385114
4/21/2008 9:19 PM | | Re: Drudge: America faces food rationing? | Quote |
I was at my costco this AM, all rice was sold out, they also had a sign up about limits to your previously purchased amts.
Another words.. if you used to buy 1 50lb bag that is all you will be allowed to buy.
People were a bit shaken and standing around the empty pallet as I walked by.
What city? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 355852
Sam's Club on Eastern Henderson/Las Vegas also had an empty palatte where the rice should be - today 04/21/08 |
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Earth Daughter
User ID: 408743
4/21/2008 9:39 PM
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What I'm finding at my store is the there is barely anymore bottled water on the shelves.
At first I thought, "The supply truck must have not come yet."
But every time I go there?
Where the hell is the water??? |
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mercury2
User ID: 420593
4/21/2008 9:41 PM
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Okay so "excess liquidity" was first soaked up by the stock market, then that went bust in 2001, then the "excess liquidity" started chasing real estate, creating another bubble which is going bust, are we seeing that "excess liquidity" chasing food commodities and creating a bubble of inflated values now? Am I onto something or am I clueless? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 272356
4/21/2008 9:43 PM | | Re: Drudge: America faces food rationing? | Quote |
'bout time! We need to put the brakes on our fat asses! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 403466
4/21/2008 9:50 PM | | Re: Drudge: America faces food rationing? | Quote |
Everything is fine, folks. Please move along... |
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Boiled Frog
User ID: 388131
4/21/2008 10:02 PM | | Re: Drudge: America faces food rationing? | Quote |
I went to BJ's tonight and there is plenty of rice and other things. No shortage that I could see.
I occasionally by rice for longterm use and I haven't even noticed an increase in the price over the last couple of months. $17.99 for 50 lbs for the last few months.
I am not denying the main point in this topic but I have not seen it in my neck of the woods (Florida).
Does anyone know how long 50 lbs of rice last for an individual? |
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Is45
User ID: 294391
4/21/2008 10:17 PM | | Re: Drudge: America faces food rationing? | Quote |
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Remember on 9-11 when you sat there
staring at the TV [radio] and couldn't
believe it was happeneing here ?!
It's happening here.
And it's all planned !!
It was planned from the beginning.
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Is45
User ID: 294391
4/21/2008 10:21 PM | | Re: Drudge: America faces food rationing? | Quote |
are you serious , do you really believe there is a shortage of food coming lol
You must have some grasshopper DNA/blood in you... Quoting: LOOK TO THE ANT 379467
I'll bet that went over a few heads ;)
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 418138
4/21/2008 10:40 PM | | Re: Drudge: America faces food rationing? | Quote |
How come there is plenty of meat? More than we should be eating, in fact? Take things seriously when there is shortage of meat, all else is result speculation activity. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 420749
4/21/2008 10:41 PM | |
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 355608
4/21/2008 10:45 PM | | Re: Drudge: America faces food rationing? | Quote |
Maybe everyone should move down South. I have a 10 month old and just got back from Costco. More than enough shit to make you spend your money on. Plenty of rice, plenty of water. Oh and plenty of damn diapers and wipes which are killing me. |
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sillygalah
User ID: 367923
4/21/2008 10:53 PM | | Re: Drudge: America faces food rationing? | Quote |
Okay so "excess liquidity" was first soaked up by the stock market, then that went bust in 2001, then the "excess liquidity" started chasing real estate, creating another bubble which is going bust, are we seeing that "excess liquidity" chasing food commodities and creating a bubble of inflated values now? Am I onto something or am I clueless? Quoting: mercury2
Absolutely bang on Mercury. It sounds as though you would enjoy Robert Prechter's famous book "The Turn In The Tial Wave". It's worth reading if you can get hold of a copy. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 364572
4/21/2008 10:59 PM | | Re: Drudge: America faces food rationing? | Quote |
Lets see Iraq war= triple increases in oil prices to pay for the war.
Banks bailouts= triple increase in food prices to pay for the billions lost by banks.
Pattern emerges, we will pay for all others losses and mistakes!!! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 65489
4/21/2008 11:01 PM | | Re: Drudge: America faces food rationing? | Quote |
aussies need rain. another failed rice crop due to drought will be very very bad indeed. countries are planning to plant more rice but will not help short term. wheat seeds for planting in short supply, drought devastated rice crop, corn diverted for freaking fuel (which is totally stupid) fuel going up up up, the fed now choosing which companies will live or die as endless money is rained down on some(wall street banksters) as other companies are deemed unworthy enter the dust bin of time, average joe being robbed blind by inflation, jobs paying a livable wage with health insurance going the way of the dodo (don't you dare get sick)and after all that.....the best the masters of the universe can do is give us another clinton (James McDougal, Mary Mahoney, Vince Foster, Ron Brown, Barbara Wise, Charles Meissner, Victor Raiser II & Montgomery Raiser, Paul Tulley, Ed Willey, Jerry Parks, James Bunch, James Wilson, Kathy Ferguson, Bill Shelton, Gandy Baugh, Suzanne Coleman, Paula Grober, plus 25 more), a 70 year old keating five member and a some freaking guy out of no where named Hussein?
we are so doomed it ain't even funny. |
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Is45
User ID: 294391
4/21/2008 11:10 PM | | Re: Drudge: America faces food rationing? | Quote |
How come there is plenty of meat? More than we should be eating, in fact? Take things seriously when there is shortage of meat, all else is result speculation activity. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 418138
I recall a story about more animals being sent to market now
because of the rising price of feed... so the availability of meat
may be temporary.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 364572
4/21/2008 11:16 PM | | Re: Drudge: America faces food rationing? | Quote |
How come there is plenty of meat? More than we should be eating, in fact? Take things seriously when there is shortage of meat, all else is result speculation activity.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 418138
I predict meat will be their next price increase excuse to suck us dry and make us more easily vulnerable to their evil designs. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 416467
4/21/2008 11:18 PM | | Re: Drudge: America faces food rationing? | Quote |
SOON YOU GONNA NEED THE MARK FOR FOODS |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 420242
4/21/2008 11:22 PM | | Re: Drudge: America faces food rationing? | Quote |
So have any of you seen this shirtage? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 364572
4/21/2008 11:25 PM | | Re: Drudge: America faces food rationing? | Quote |
So have any of you seen this shirtage? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 420242
Whats a shirtage?????????????? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 418743
4/21/2008 11:39 PM | | Re: Drudge: America faces food rationing? | Quote |
So have any of you seen this shirtage?
Whats a shirtage?????????????? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 364572
I think they mean shortage. I an O are next to each other on the keyboard, a type-o. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 418157
4/21/2008 11:40 PM | | Re: Drudge: America faces food rationing? | Quote |
This (hemp) is the only solution that makes any sense - plastics, fuel, building material, rope, 100 year clothes, paper + you get flour and oil from the seed in a particular healthy balance for the human animal. I wish we wouldn't have to go through this to remember though.
The government still pays farmers enormous sums to let fields lie fallow and not plant crops. Ethanol is not the problem. Brazil has been energy self sufficient for many years by using ethanol - with no grain shortages resulting. We have an enormous capacity to produce crops for ourselves and export. All the problems we face now are manufactured.
Yes, and no. Ethanol takes tremendous amounts of FRESH WATER to produce. Also, it's an energy-consuming fuel in that it requires fuel to plant it, grow it, fertilize it, harvest it, ship it to the ethanol plant, process it, and then ship it to the fueling stations.
Corn-based ethanol is a waste of FOOD. Hemp would be a better source.
Brazil might be energy self-sufficient, but her sugar cane workers live and work under horrible conditions. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 416100 |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 206814
4/21/2008 11:46 PM | | Re: Drudge: America faces food rationing? | Quote |
Drudge is linking to this story:
[ link to nysun.com]
Food Rationing Confronts Breadbasket of the World
April 21, 2008
Paging Thomas Malthus, Thomas Malthus to the emergency room
Now THAT'S funny! (but true) |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 420768
4/21/2008 11:51 PM | | Re: Drudge: America faces food rationing? | Quote |
i seen this comming and got my rice is this like the ducktape thing they had us do lol |
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Is45
User ID: 294391
4/22/2008 12:03 AM | | Re: Drudge: America faces food rationing? | Quote |
i seen this comming and got my rice
is this like the ducktape thing they had us do lol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 420768
Are you suggesting the news about food shortages
is aimed at getting people to stock up - making food
shortages a self-fulfilling prophecy ?
or
Maybe there is something big coming down the pike
that will make a food shortage look tame.
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Judas Goat
User ID: 396704
4/22/2008 12:18 AM
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Some thoughts, from an economist's point of view:
* There really is a looming shortage. In fact, there's a shortage of "cereals" today. It's only a half percent between global supply and demand, but a half percentage point is serious when you're talking about 6+ billion people.
* Stored stocks of rice, wheat, corn, etc., are at the lowest level in our recent globalized history.
* There's not an immediate real shortage in the USA. What you're seeing is a combination of panic buying, panic bulk buying by small restaurants and resellers who get staples at CostCo/Smart & Final/Sam's Club, and a run on commodities that is seeing major food packagers (think Rice-a-Roni or Uncle Ben's) buying as much as they can before prices go even higher. This is the same way airlines try to buy jet fuel months or even years in advance when prices are on the way up.
* But there could be a real shortage of staples in the USA, and it will only take a "perfect storm" like a major port shutdown (Los Angeles) or earthquake that knocks out the main rail lines (Cajon Pass, the nation's busiest rail junction, sits on the San Andreas Fault alongside Interstate 15), or a pandemic that shut down the trade from a major food exporter such as China or even Vietnam.
* It's smart to have several months of dry foods in your pantry (along with ample supplies of those big Sparkletts jugs of drinking water, unless you're on a well in the country). But it's even better to have a good, safely stored supply of seeds for your garden. Make sure you have a combination of long-lasting protein, such as potatoes, along with a wide variety of vegetables and greens. Gardening is also fun.
* If you have a backyard, get a few chickens. The eggs will keep you happy for years. If you've got an acre or two, get a few dairy goats or a cow for a free, fresh supply of milk and cream and cheese -- you'll have to learn to make the cheese, but that's fun, too. Goats will also eat all the weeds!
* Go to a site like [link to survivalblog.com] for info on DEFENDING your food supplies, when the Sh*& Hits the Fan. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 368888
4/22/2008 12:25 AM | | Re: Drudge: America faces food rationing? | Quote |
Don't forget, there are edibles all around.
Wild plants that are even growing in your yard. There are books if you are interested in finding what is safe to eat. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 401648
4/22/2008 12:39 AM | | Re: Drudge: America faces food rationing? | Quote |
our leaders are dumber than shit
hillary clinton george bush |
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