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April 24, 2008
When Will We Admit the Truth About Barack Obama?
By Selwyn Duke

If you interview someone for a job, you'll expect him to tell you what you want to hear. There'll be a façade, and his darker side will remain well-hidden. Now, let's say a requirement for the job is that the applicant likes children, and he does his best Captain Kangaroo. But then you find out he has a job history of indifference to and perhaps even abuse of kids and that, during unguarded moments, he has expressed disdain for them. What will you believe, what he tries to sell you, or history and hair-down revelations?

Remember this when evaluating the profound discrepancy between Barack Obama's damage-control denials and flowery rhetoric, and his long track record. Understand that he, like the other candidates, is interviewing for the job of president with you, the interviewer. His job is to bend the truth; your job is to discern it. The only question is: Who will do a better job, he or you?

Either Obama really is a savior for the third millennium, or the answer is that he is, thus far, besting many of you. Millions flock to him, registering oohs and ahs, fainting and fawning. Even critics and watchdogs heap praise upon him; Bill O'Reilly said he likes Obama and Sean Hannity proclaimed him a "good man." But what is the truth about this applicant?

Let me tell you a story. In 2002, President Bush signed into law a bill titled the "Born Alive Infants Protection Act" (BAIPA). This law was necessary because, believe it or not, infants were being born alive during attempted abortions and then, ancient Spartan style, left to die. Jill Stanek wrote about this last year, saying:

"As a nurse at an Illinois hospital in 1999, I discovered babies were being aborted alive and shelved to die in soiled utility rooms. I discovered infanticide."

The act was so vile that even staunch abortion advocates would not oppose BAIPA. Stanek tells us that it passed the Senate by unanimous vote, garnering the support of senators Kerry, Kennedy and Clinton. She then pointed out:

"The bill also passed overwhelmingly in the House. NARAL went neutral on it. Abortion enthusiasts publicly agreed that fighting BAIPA would appear extreme."

But the state version of BAIPA failed for years in Illinois. Any guesses as to why? Stanek goes on to explain:

I testified in 2001 and 2002 before a committee of which Obama was a member.

Obama articulately worried that legislation protecting live aborted babies might infringe on women's rights or abortionists' rights. Obama's clinical discourse, his lack of mercy, shocked me. I was naive back then. Obama voted against the measure, twice. It ultimately failed.

In 2003, as chairman of the next Senate committee to which BAIPA was sent, Obama stopped it from even getting a hearing, shelving it to die much like babies were still being shelved to die in Illinois hospitals and abortion clinics.

If asked about this, I'm sure Obama would be a very effective interviewee; he is good with words. (Of course, one is better with words when they're managed by a sympathetic media.) Yet, when you look beyond the rhetoric, a picture of Obama starts to emerge.

There are his damnable associations. We know about William Ayers, the college professor and "education advisor" who, as a Weather Underground terrorist in the 1970s, planted bombs in a campaign against our government. You might point out that this was three decades ago, but know that Ayers is unrepentant and wishes that he had planted more bombs. Barack Obama Obama launched his campaign for the state senate with a fundraiser at the house of Ayers and his fellow terrorist wife Bernadine Dohrn.

What does this piece of history teach us? For starters, it is one thing to understand something is wrong; it is another to feel it. Emotion is a stronger motivator than logic (Captain Kirk had the passion, not Mr. Spock). My point is, given Obama's cordial dealings with Ayers -- a man with whom many wouldn't break bread -- I'm left to wonder how much terrorism really bothers the senator on a visceral level. If his tolerance for the Weathermen is any indication, we have to ask: As president, would his zeal match that of our Islamist foes?

Then there is the now infamous Reverend Wright, the man of the cloth poised to move into a 10,000 square ft. house with a 10-million-dollar line of credit. His bigoted, virulently anti-American bile has received enough press so that I don't have to provide a complete run-down, but this is a man who equated America with al-Qaeda, said we deserved 9/11, made anti-white statements, and called our nation "the US of KKKA." This prompted, as you know, a well-crafted and rendered speech on race by the interviewee (as the infanticide story, should it receive enough play, may inspire a speech on the sanctity of life), but, again, what is the reality behind the words?

Obama called Wright a friend, mentor and uncle; he had a 20-year relationship with him, during which time he attended Wright's church; he was married and had his child baptized by the reverend; and last year he donated $26,000 to the church. Yet some would give Obama credit for not casting his friend to the winds. After all, the interviewee said that he "cannot disown him." But my question is: Why, Mr. Obama, did you ever own him in the first place?

So we again have to wonder about his emotional constitution, his heart. Even if he doesn't share Wright's passion for the hate, he certainly was tolerant of it -- and I suspect sympathetic to it. And a man is known by the company he keeps.

The woman he marries is some indication, too. Michelle Obama vigorously advocated partial-birth abortion (which is also infanticide) in 2004, and we all know about her notorious pronouncement: "For the first time in my adult life, I'm proud of my country." As for the comment, it has caused many to question her patriotism and apologists to counsel against rash judgment.

But the truth is plain. As I'm sure Jesse Lee Peterson -- a black minister and the president of B.O.N.D. -- would tell you, anti-American sentiment typifies leftist blacks (it's quite common among leftist whites, too). Think about it: How many blacks on the left can you think of who don't fit that mold? It's a consequence of imbibing the philosophy of hatred and bitterness dispensed by Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and other racial hustlers.

Then we have Obama's moment of honesty in San Francisco. As a refresher, here is what he said:

"You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years . . . . And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

Many have labeled these comments elitist, and Obama has been trying to explain them away. But, again, the truth is plain. Apologists have asserted that Bill Clinton expressed the same sentiments in 1992; in other words, the best they can muster is that Obama is just like Clinton.

And that is the point.

Obama is a leftist, Clinton is a leftist, and that's what leftists believe about "flyover country," just as Michelle Obama's statement reflects what they believe about the whole country. You needn't be a clairvoyant to discern it.

To understand what is most striking about those comments, though, you have to look more deeply. Notice he mentioned "religion" in the same breath as "guns" and "antipathy to people," sandwiched right in-between the two. It's hard to escape the conclusion that he draws an equivalency among those things, which speaks volumes.

If you're a person of faith, you understand that we're supposed to cling to religion. After all, if you are serious about your faith, you must believe it is the Truth and that it is God's will that you should practice it. And why wouldn't you have the Truth at the center of your life?

The only kind of person who wouldn't have this perspective is one who has little or no faith. That certainly wouldn't make Obama unique, but remember that he has often masqueraded as a man of faith, just as he now touts his support for Second Amendment rights (in 1999 he supported a law that would have eliminated gun stores from virtually the whole country). But this bespeaks of a reality: There is Obama the myth, and Obama the man. If you want to know the former, listen to what he says; if you want to know the latter, accept what he is.

And what is he? What is the truth about Barack Obama? You won't hear it from the Sean Hannitys of the world, who will tell us that he is a "good man" with bad ideology. Such people are simple telling you what they're supposed to believe; it's what "fair and balanced" commentators do, the stuff of "acceptable" conservatives. The truth about Obama is that he is not a good man.

He is a bad man.

Good men don't turn a blind eye to unrepentant ex-terrorists; support vile, anti-American bigots; lie about their core beliefs; and look down on traditional Americans. Most significantly, good men don't allow beautiful babies -- the least among us -- to be discarded like refuse and die miserable, lonely deaths in dark utility rooms. In fact, if we cannot call Obama a bad man, there is no such thing as a bad man. And calling him a good man doesn't just strain credulity, it puts it in the hospital in traction.

Ah, yes, hope, change, unity, infanticide, bigotry, terrorism, Obama . . . good? We all know what is wrong with this picture.


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When will you admit the truth that you are a ultra-right- wing, Neo-conned, McTard loving douchbag who REALLY hates America and anything that isn't white and Republican?
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PAC likes Hilary better.
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When will you admit the truth that you are a ultra-right- wing, Neo-conned, McTard loving douchbag who REALLY hates America and anything that isn't white and Republican?
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So what you are saying is, you are not intelligent enough to debate the subject matter, so you insult me with your gammer school playground retoric?

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Purple is a gay pride symbol, PACNWGuy = log cabin republican.
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When will you admit the truth that you are a ultra-right- wing, Neo-conned, McTard loving douchbag who REALLY hates America and anything that isn't white and Republican?



So what you are saying is, you are not intelligent enough to debate the subject matter, so you insult me with your gammer school playground retoric?

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Debate this, Republicans are lying pieces of shit only out to line their pockets. It's time they're gone for good. Except, Ron Paul.
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GLP has been taken over by adolescent uneducated troll idiots.

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The rumblings of wingnuttia have started early today. Hey Pac aren't you supposed to be pushing the Syria & North Korea conection so you can trot that ole "Iraq moved their weapons to Syria Lie" again. I thought that was suppose to be the propaganda for Thursday.
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I agree PACK this man is a fraud
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Obama: Iran threatens all of us. Won't rule out force in speech in Chicago to pro-Israel group:

[link to www.suntimes.com]

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"The first step must be getting off the wrong battlefield in Iraq, and taking the fight to the terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan."

"So the second step in my strategy will be to build our capacity and our partnerships to track down, capture or kill terrorists around the world."

[link to www.barackobama.com]

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Cindy Sheehan Exposes Obama As War Monger

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AMERICA DESERVES HIM.

THE OLD UNITED STATES IS DEAD, THE MULTI-CULTI METRO-SEXUALIZED PORNO WATCHING/CASINO VISITING/FAST FOOD EATING/BOX STORE BUYING/ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT HIRING, DUMBED DOWN, DRUG USING/ MSM CONSUMING/ DEBT HAVING/THIRD WORLD LOOKING SOUND BYTE USSA HELL HOLE IS UP AND RUNNING AND OBAMA IS THE ULTIMATE SPOKESPERSON FOR IT.
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considering you post an anti-obama article everyday. I'm taking you are not going to vote for him. That is fine. But you are mischaracterizing his message and background. He is not a muslim for one thing. And they fact that you think he is shows me you are really not worth taking seriously.
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When will you admit the truth that you are a ultra-right- wing, Neo-conned, McTard loving douchbag who REALLY hates America and anything that isn't white and Republican?



So what you are saying is, you are not intelligent enough to debate the subject matter, so you insult me with your gammer school playground retoric?

Moron
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Senator Clinton was on the board of directors for WAL MART disregarding the rights of Labor

BARACK WAS NOT

Senator Clinton went along with the intentions of president bush on Iraq, granted she was duped.

BARACK WAS NOT

Hil-Bill were starting to play the race card in this election,
BARACK WAS NOT

Hillary was willing to take the low road in this election
BARACK WAS NOT

VOTE OBAMA 2008
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The previous post was mine

BTW PAC N Guy how could any intelligent person actually still think he is a muslim?

You are not swaying any Obama supporters what you might achieve is poison some people against him - people whose votes
he deserves.

GO OBAMA 08
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When will you admit the truth that you are a ultra-right- wing, Neo-conned, McTard loving douchbag who REALLY hates America and anything that isn't white and Republican?



So what you are saying is, you are not intelligent enough to debate the subject matter, so you insult me with your gammer school playground retoric?

Moron
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Sorry PACW, you never would consider voting Democract to begin with so whats you point of asking people to admit anything about Obama?

And NO! I have never voted Democract in my life, so don't even think about spitting "YOU MUST BE A LIBERAL DEMOCRACT"

PACW, so far as i have seen you ever intelligently write anything of value on any post. You PACW, only copy and paste articles written by someone else of your political point of view!

PACW, i thinks its YOU that should get off the stump and ADMIT that you are just a shill for the political far-right religious aspect of the Republican party of which the Republican party leadership could give a rats ass about any spirtual beliefs you have except when the next election cycle comes around!

PACW, its people like YOU and people in the far-left of the democract political spectrum that are destroying the freedom, justice and economic validity of America!

The people in the middle political spectrum have to put up with both the Iidotic Far-Right/Far-Left bullshit in the country and we have had just about enough of both!
One day this Country will recover from the bullshit the Far-Right/Far-left push and go back to actual REAL freedom exists. Not this scientific dictatorship you fucks so lovenly shill for!

PACW, just remember you shills for the political
Far-Right/Far-Left. Your days are numbered!
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When will you admit the truth that you are a ultra-right- wing, Neo-conned, McTard loving douchbag who REALLY hates America and anything that isn't white and Republican?



So what you are saying is, you are not intelligent enough to debate the subject matter, so you insult me with your gammer school playground retoric?

Moron

Senator Clinton was on the board of directors for WAL MART disregarding the rights of Labor

BARACK WAS NOT

Senator Clinton went along with the intentions of president bush on Iraq, granted she was duped.

BARACK WAS NOT

Hil-Bill were starting to play the race card in this election,
BARACK WAS NOT

Hillary was willing to take the low road in this election
BARACK WAS NOT

VOTE OBAMA 2008
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I agree, Hillary is just as bad as Obama.

Vote McCain


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Barack Obama bought up all the rice at Wal-Mart.
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Is Osama - I mean Obama a Clinton ploy to drive voters to sHilary??
[link to cloakanddagger.de]

Let's face it - his very name is a psyop - Osama/Obama - Saddam Hussein/Barack Hussein...Muslim??

HOW LIKELY IS IT THAT A CANDIDATE FOR US PRESIDENCY WOULD CARRY THE SAME NAME AS TWO OF THE ELITE'S VILLAINS DU JOUR??

I have nothing against right thinking, right acting Muslims, Jews, Catholics, etc etc but this Obama thing has to be a complete psyop if ever I saw one.
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Sorry PACW, you never would consider voting Democract to begin with so whats you point of asking people to admit anything about Obama?

And NO! I have never voted Democract in my life, so don't even think about spitting "YOU MUST BE A LIBERAL DEMOCRACT"

PACW, so far as i have seen you ever intelligently write anything of value on any post. You PACW, only copy and paste articles written by someone else of your political point of view!

PACW, i thinks its YOU that should get off the stump and ADMIT that you are just a shill for the political far-right religious aspect of the Republican party of which the Republican party leadership could give a rats ass about any spirtual beliefs you have except when the next election cycle comes around!

PACW, its people like YOU and people in the far-left of the democract political spectrum that are destroying the freedom, justice and economic validity of America!

The people in the middle political spectrum have to put up with both the Iidotic Far-Right/Far-Left bullshit in the country and we have had just about enough of both!
One day this Country will recover from the bullshit the Far-Right/Far-left push and go back to actual REAL freedom exists. Not this scientific dictatorship you fucks so lovenly shill for!

PACW, just remember you shills for the political
Far-Right/Far-Left. Your days are numbered!

 Quoting: Robert45 412442


I write more than just about anyone here. Sure I cut and paste articles. If I dont, the very first reply post is a demand for a "link" to back up what I say. If you read my threads, you will see that I debate and defend everything I post. The first post is to open up a subject for discussion.

Now as for your comment about me being a "shill for the political far-right religious aspect of the Republican party". Care to show me a post of mine out of 10,000 that supports that claim?

I have never even said I was a Christian on this forum. Sure I liked Hucakbee but that doesnt make me a shill for the religious right. I liked him for his position on the fair tax proposal more than him being a pastor - before he was a Governor for two terms.

And again here, you choose to attack me rather than discuss the subject matter of the thread.

This buds for you...

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This nation & it's sovereignty was conquered because we are divided...still.

My preacher/pundit is better than your preacher/pundit....my will is more valid than yours etc...
Hard to reason or debate with anyone who is at war...within and without...they are only looking for a fight & to win over, prove the other is wrong.

If you believe so strongly in what you say & 'they' feel the same way about there stance....who is right?

Nobody really listens to each other, they are just too busy trying to prove their stance (which mostly is not even theirs...just recycled mass consciousness).It's a feudal effort to try and win someone over or persuade them your way is the highest truth, when you have demonized them already. ya know? It's that same type of conceptual warfare that keeps the masses in a feudal state, sucking the tit of some savior lord or governor.
No, none of the candidates are qualified to lead anybodies life but their own. (and that could be a stretch by observing their actions..j/k) But this Rush to judgment about who is Wright means nothing, in war.

be well.
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When will you admit the truth that you are a ultra-right- wing, Neo-conned, McTard loving douchbag who REALLY hates America and anything that isn't white and Republican?



So what you are saying is, you are not intelligent enough to debate the subject matter, so you insult me with your gammer school playground retoric?

Moron

Senator Clinton was on the board of directors for WAL MART disregarding the rights of Labor

BARACK WAS NOT

Senator Clinton went along with the intentions of president bush on Iraq, granted she was duped.

BARACK WAS NOT

Hil-Bill were starting to play the race card in this election,
BARACK WAS NOT

Hillary was willing to take the low road in this election
BARACK WAS NOT

VOTE OBAMA 2008


I agree, Hillary is just as bad as Obama.

Vote McCain


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mccain is as CORRUPT as it comes!!!!!!!!!!!
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Full text of Barack Obama's 2002 Speech Against the Iraq War


I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a US occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences.I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East.I am not opposed to all wars.I’m opposed to dumb wars.

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Against Going to War with Iraq (2002)by Barack Obama
Delivered on Wednesday, October 2, 2002 by Barack Obama, Illinois State Senator, at the first high-profile Chicago anti-Iraq war rally (organized by Chicagoans Against War in Iraq) at noon in Federal Plaza in Chicago, Illinois; at the same day and hour that President Bush and Congress announced their agreement on the joint resolution authorizing the Iraq War, but over a week before it was passed by either body of Congress.

"Good afternoon. Let me begin by saying that although this has been billed as an anti-war rally, I stand before you as someone who is not opposed to war in all circumstances.
The Civil War was one of the bloodiest in history, and yet it was only through the crucible of the sword, the sacrifice of multitudes, that we could begin to perfect this union, and drive the scourge of slavery from our soil. I don’t oppose all wars.

My grandfather signed up for a war the day after Pearl Harbor was bombed, fought in Patton’s army. He saw the dead and dying across the fields of Europe; he heard the stories of fellow troops who first entered Auschwitz and Treblinka. He fought in the name of a larger freedom, part of that arsenal of democracy that triumphed over evil, and he did not fight in vain.
I don’t oppose all wars.

After September 11th, after witnessing the carnage and destruction, the dust and the tears, I supported this Administration’s pledge to hunt down and root out those who would slaughter innocents in the name of intolerance, and I would willingly take up arms myself to prevent such a tragedy from happening again.
I don’t oppose all wars.

And I know that in this crowd today, there is no shortage of patriots, or of patriotism.

What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war. What I am opposed to is the cynical attempt by Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz and other arm-chair, weekend warriors in this Administration to shove their own ideological agendas down our throats, irrespective of the costs in lives lost and in hardships borne.

What I am opposed to is the attempt by political hacks like Karl Rove to distract us from a rise in the uninsured, a rise in the poverty rate, a drop in the median income – to distract us from corporate scandals and a stock market that has just gone through the worst month since the Great Depression.
That’s what I’m opposed to. A dumb war. A rash war.

A war based not on reason but on passion, not on principle but on politics.

Now let me be clear – I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal man. A ruthless man. A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power. He has repeatedly defied UN resolutions, thwarted UN inspection teams, developed chemical and biological weapons, and coveted nuclear capacity.
He’s a bad guy. The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him.

But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors, that the Iraqi economy is in shambles, that the Iraqi military a fraction of its former strength, and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history.

I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a US occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaeda.
I am not opposed to all wars. I’m opposed to dumb wars.

So for those of us who seek a more just and secure world for our children, let us send a clear message to the president today: You want a fight, President Bush? Let’s finish the fight with Bin Laden and al-Qaeda, through effective, coordinated intelligence, and a shutting down of the financial networks that support terrorism, and a homeland security program that involves more than color-coded warnings.

You want a fight, President Bush? Let’s fight to make sure that the UN inspectors can do their work, and that we vigorously enforce a non-proliferation treaty, and that former enemies and current allies like Russia safeguard and ultimately eliminate their stores of nuclear material, and that nations like Pakistan and India never use the terrible weapons already in their possession, and that the arms merchants in our own country stop feeding the countless wars that rage across the globe.

You want a fight, President Bush? Let’s fight to make sure our so-called allies in the Middle East, the Saudis and the Egyptians, stop oppressing their own people, and suppressing dissent, and tolerating corruption and inequality, and mismanaging their economies so that their youth grow up without education, without prospects, without hope, the ready recruits of terrorist cells.

You want a fight, President Bush? Let’s fight to wean ourselves off Middle East oil, through an energy policy that doesn’t simply serve the interests of Exxon and Mobil.

Those are the battles that we need to fight. Those are the battles that we willingly join. The battles against ignorance and intolerance. Corruption and greed. Poverty and despair.

The consequences of war are dire, the sacrifices immeasurable. We may have occasion in our lifetime to once again rise up in defense of our freedom, and pay the wages of war. But we ought not – we will not – travel down that hellish path blindly. Nor should we allow those who would march off and pay the ultimate sacrifice, who would prove the full measure of devotion with their blood, to make such an awful sacrifice in vain."
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So what you are saying is, you are not intelligent enough to debate the subject matter, so you insult me with your gammer school playground retoric?

Moron
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Funny you should mention debating, everytime I have posted a Long well reasoned rebutt to your posts, you have yet to ONE TIME respond. You sir are a Chicken Shit and you are also WELL EAST AND SOUTH OF ME.

If you had any balls you'd come up here and debate me face to face, but since you do not...fuck off.
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PacMan is back with a vengeance...!!


I don't like any of the remaining 3, and would have preferred that Ron Paul was not deliberately sandbagged. However, all 3 are pro-illegal immigration and pro-abortion. McSame is not a realistic alternative to a third bush term, and as a 30 year DC resident, that is not the background for an electable President. O'Bama is the least entrenched in DC, and offers the largest difference to the status quo than Hillary or McCain. The Dems are quite likely to add to their majorities in the House and Senate. The best the Reps can hope for is a less than 60 seat Dem majority. That way the typical DC politics of the Reps can stonewall everything an Obama presidency would promulgate.
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Vote McCain
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lolatu
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Purple is a gay pride symbol, PACNWGuy = log cabin republican.
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Yep, this is true lmao
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old pacNguy is more a wide stance kind of guy. Loves that larry Craig.

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