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Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US
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Dispositioner
User ID: 441186
6/2/2008 3:02 PM
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"Broken Arrow" is also a military term for when a nuclear weapon goes missing and is unaccounted for.
You are judged by the strength of your enemies.
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro" - Hunter S. Thompson |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 430047
6/2/2008 3:06 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
and so it begins... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 390254
6/2/2008 7:27 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
Stun guns maybe? Vaccination type (shot) gun? No clues about number 47 other than maybe number actually killed by killer(s) thus far.
Thanks, Claycat. Maybe those of us with experience in meditation, rv, divining, etc. should all give it a shot and post what we get. You never know. We could come up with something meaningful.
Or maybe 47 is the total number of killers involved. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 444357
Do a google search on: number+47
"Quintessential random number of the universe"
"Appears in many episodes of Star Trek: The Next Generation, Voyager and Space Nine episodes"
It is supposedly the number that appears randomly more than any other number. There is even a "47 Society".
Interesting. Maybe Claycat is on to something in his meditations. |
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Claycat
User ID: 444338
6/2/2008 7:40 PM
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Someone just told me there is a Highway 47 that runs through Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Michigan!
Thanks for posting all that info about 47, AC!
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." William Shakespeare |
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Claycat
User ID: 451280
6/13/2008 2:53 PM
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There is a new two-part radio interview with Kevin Gannon on this page.
[link to www.nationwideinvestigations.us]
It is very interesting. In the second part of the interview, he discusses information they have not talked about before.
He talks about some that got away. Interestingly, he talks about how some friends wrestled a guy away from some men that were taking him to a van.
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." William Shakespeare |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 452836
6/16/2008 10:02 AM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
"Jacob Wetterling. He was abducted at gun point,in broad daylight, with witnesses present, and taken away in a van, never to be found, to this day. I remember reading somewhere(possibly here) that the family hired private investigators, who in turn, employed trackers with dogs. The dogs led to the door of a monastery at St. Johns, Collegeville, I believe"
jacob was age 11. The same number that was left behind in graffiti near where victims disappeared.In pennsylvania some believe the number 11 to be part of a smiley face.I do not.I believe that is a trick as the number 11 is also in middlebury vermont.the abductor did not simply grab the child and take off.he made them tell him their ages.he wanted a boy that was age 11. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 452836
6/16/2008 10:13 AM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
A man wearing a stocking mask stepped out from the darkness. He had a gun. Next the boys were commanded off their bikes and scooter and ordered into a roadside ditch. The man looked into Trevor’s face and asked his age. Hearing the reply, the man told the younger Wetterling to run away and not look back. If he disobeyed, he would be shot, the man said. He did the same with Aaron.
But as Aaron fled he saw the gunman grab Jacob by the arm of his red St. Cloud hockey jacket. Moments later, both boys looked back as they ran to Wetterling home. There was no sign of Jacob, the masked man, or any sound from a getaway vehicle.
[link to www.courttv.com] |
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ethan
User ID: 452836
6/16/2008 11:31 AM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
i deleted my entire blog.i was thinking about doing it anyway.i have got many nasty comments from pathological liars from websleuths.some people even accuse me of being the killer.it all started because blink34 said this
"I would ask you to consider that making an allegation against an entire corporation or parts of it's staff like that may be construed as a form of personal or corporate attack on them and I would prefer to keep the focus on the cases and hopefully contributing to solving them."
now i dont see anyone being accused of making allegations that has a theory about walmart.it is a theory it is not an allegation that a technician taking classes at a trane corporation facility could have been in town the days people disappeared,and they were.She also insinuates that i do not contribute to solving the crimes.__i have provided the site with information they did not have.one being the criminal comnplaint against one scott Austin_Scott______any thing i say to defend myself only gets me more accusations .for instance i am told i am slandering blink because i came up with the trane theory.I admit to this.i also did some work and found that dates trane facilities had classes for technicians match with dates people went missing.the odds of the dates matching in clarksville by itself is 1 in 36.5.this is the comment made insinuating that i am alledging the trane theory was not mine so i am the one committing slander.I admit to it being mine and always have.
You are the one who brought up the Trane theory on several websites. You are slandering a person (Blink), when in fact, you are the one who insists on the Trane theory.
if anyone has any explaining to do it is not me.i refuse to say any more to the accusers,because the lies and accusations will just keep getting more ridiculous. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 438268
6/16/2008 12:53 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
i deleted my entire blog.i was thinking about doing it anyway.i have got many nasty comments from pathological liars from websleuths. Quoting: ethan 452836
I'm sorry Ethan!
I read over at websleuths and here. The way they treated you was wrong, i thought. They seem to think they are very wonderful over there. Honestly, i don't see them solving ANY crimes. (Although they think they are contributing quite a bit!) They just rehash, repeatedly, what the detectives have put forth.
All i see is a lot of arguing and stating the same shit over, and over, and over. If anyone comes up with something they don't agree with, they argue about little stuff for PAGES!
Very, VERY redundant.
I have enjoyed your photos and your word associations.
Don't give up because of a few assholes!
Just stay away from them.
When Gannon does break this case, they will eat their words! (Although they will probably attempt to swing to they "solved the case" and helped the detectives soooo much!) |
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Claycat
User ID: 453102
6/16/2008 7:15 PM
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I post a little at Websleuths, but I found it very easy to get banned if you responded in kind to people who would go after you. I just try to be careful. Sorry Ethan! I hadn't seen your thread there, because I was banned for awhile. LOL!
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." William Shakespeare |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 453181
6/16/2008 11:32 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
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Police are trying to see if they are linked.
[link to news.yahoo.com] |
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Ethan
User ID: 454005
6/18/2008 9:44 AM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
I post a little at Websleuths, but I found it very easy to get banned if you responded in kind to people who would go after you. I just try to be careful. Sorry Ethan! I hadn't seen your thread there, because I was banned for awhile. LOL! Quoting: Claycat
yea i am sorry too that i put out the theories on websleuths ,thinking someone might want to help.instead i have to try to be a salesman on top of all the research,having a full time job and various other ressponsibilites.i gave up my part time business just to make time for this..
i put some of my blog back and added my interpretation of what the graffiti in middlebury means.i did not even bother to read the comments.i thought i had that so it was not available,so i don't know why i am getting comments. |
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Ethan
User ID: 454005
6/18/2008 10:18 AM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
i responded yesterday only to find i was banned so that is why it took so long to reply. |
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Ethan
User ID: 454005
6/18/2008 10:37 AM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
I'm sorry Ethan!
I read over at websleuths and here. The way they treated you was wrong, i thought. They seem to think they are very wonderful over there. Honestly, i don't see them solving ANY crimes. (Although they think they are contributing quite a bit!) They just rehash, repeatedly, what the detectives have put forth.
All i see is a lot of arguing and stating the same shit over, and over, and over. If anyone comes up with something they don't agree with, they argue about little stuff for PAGES!
Very, VERY redundant.
I have enjoyed your photos and your word associations.
Don't give up because of a few assholes!
Just stay away from them.
When Gannon does break this case, they will eat their words! (Although they will probably attempt to swing to they "solved the case" and helped the detectives soooo much!) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 438268
thanks.it only takes a few assholes to stir things up.the threads tend to get very long with a lot of speculation without the same people doing any work.a lot of those posts are blink's .she does more gossiping then actual work . |
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Iowa
User ID: 455177
6/20/2008 11:13 AM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
Why is the fbi covering this up?
Because it goes all the way to the top. You'll see.
To Indian Elder:
I would NOT feel any better about Sensenbrenner looking into this. He is NWO all the way.
He voted across the board for Patriot Act, Homeland Security and broadening powers of the state at the expense of individual security/privacy.
Sensenbrenner looking into this would be pretty much a whitewash of any true evidence. Quoting: from a WI resident 400555
I have had with criminals that are tied to major political patrons some in the news for corrution already and a dealing with the firm involved in california power scandal and enron. I tried to expose this stuff and nearly got it all out but the death unexplained of Abel Bolanos my dauthers best friend at College and I shut up I also notice that the biy from wisconisn father is was federal marshall his wife DEA agent until they find out what has happened we are laying very low in fact we are hiding. I would like to speak with the parents of others to find out what kind of problems they were dealing with. I notice that the boy from Wisconsims dad was politicaly appointed and has since quit.
If they found a serial killer angle I would feel much sfer and I would not worry daily when something will finall hapen to my children so if An ewalt child is added to the list of myself you have the answer.
319-464-2602 will get you to someone who can talk to us. |
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Claycat
User ID: 455370
6/20/2008 5:48 PM
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Gosh, Iowa, it sounds, from what you are saying, that the young men who have been murdered may be children of people who are trying to expose corruption. Is that correct?
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." William Shakespeare |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 455386
6/20/2008 6:19 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
Gosh, Iowa, it sounds, from what you are saying, that the young men who have been murdered may be children of people who are trying to expose corruption. Is that correct? Quoting: Claycat
Anyone else want to pursue this angle? |
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Knows better
User ID: 455708
6/21/2008 9:06 AM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
You are one nasty piece of work. A racist bigot who has no idea what they are talking about. People like you enabled the Nazis to rise to power. But of course, you would probably like that. Until, that is, the jackbooted thugs came to get you, anonymous coward. Good name, by the way
as a victim of the secret network of social/political control (EM weapons attack) i've been made aware of some of the organizations being used for control, the programs of murder and torture they've carried out, and the justifications given to the rank and file involved (i.e. brainwashing)
part of it seems to be that they want to change public opinion and behavior, and one of their main means of doing this is to shock the public by suffering and death of the innocent.
for example, gun-control. many if not all of these slaughters of young people in high schools and colleges are staged, as is well-known to those who have done some research into this.
back in roughy the 60s, and 70s, the grusesome murders of hitch-hikers? same thing, it was an orchestrated campaign. you can see the roots of this anti-hitchhiking campaign in jewish hollywood propaganda, all the way back to "film noir" movies of the late 40s. wide-spread hitchhiking builds a sense of community, builds relationships within the community. for that reason, the jews, wishing to destroy and exploit their host society, made it their goal to put a stop to hitch-hiking. oddly, in cuba, hitch-hiking continues to be wide-spread. despite the opportunity, passengers and drivers are not murdering one another there.
so what is going on here? it looks to me like this group has decided to send a message against college-aged drinking. yes, it's insane, it makes no sense, but the jews know they have to keep their torture/murder political control gangs busy. they'll create pointless busy work (murdering college students) just to keep them in practice, and to keep them from losing interest.
that is what this looks like to me -- organizations of political control murdering college students to keep in practice and to keep from becoming bored, with the ridiculous cover justification of sending a message against college alcohol abuse. eerily, if you read the police records relating to the latest case, someone in the bar yelled out at the victim that "he'd pissed his pants" because he had a stain. that could be why he was chosen as the victim that night. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66920 |
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Ethan
User ID: 457765
6/24/2008 11:42 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
here is my latest video.i did not explain this in the video but the clue king,star and cup were in the graffiti because a tommy booth and a colin bell played for manchestercity -soccer-colin bell's nickname was the king of kippax.they won the european and the fa cup.colin was probably the star player the killer was referring to.i did not have a chanto do it over before i rushed off to work.i may do it over so check it out now. |
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k9
User ID: 447579
6/26/2008 11:08 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 459702
6/28/2008 12:23 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
You are one nasty piece of work. A racist bigot who has no idea what they are talking about. People like you enabled the Nazis to rise to power. But of course, you would probably like that. Until, that is, the jackbooted thugs came to get you, anonymous coward. Good name, by the way
as a victim of the secret network of social/political control (EM weapons attack) i've been made aware of some of the organizations being used for control, the programs of murder and torture they've carried out, and the justifications given to the rank and file involved (i.e. brainwashing)
part of it seems to be that they want to change public opinion and behavior, and one of their main means of doing this is to shock the public by suffering and death of the innocent.
for example, gun-control. many if not all of these slaughters of young people in high schools and colleges are staged, as is well-known to those who have done some research into this.
back in roughy the 60s, and 70s, the grusesome murders of hitch-hikers? same thing, it was an orchestrated campaign. you can see the roots of this anti-hitchhiking campaign in jewish hollywood propaganda, all the way back to "film noir" movies of the late 40s. wide-spread hitchhiking builds a sense of community, builds relationships within the community. for that reason, the jews, wishing to destroy and exploit their host society, made it their goal to put a stop to hitch-hiking. oddly, in cuba, hitch-hiking continues to be wide-spread. despite the opportunity, passengers and drivers are not murdering one another there.
so what is going on here? it looks to me like this group has decided to send a message against college-aged drinking. yes, it's insane, it makes no sense, but the jews know they have to keep their torture/murder political control gangs busy. they'll create pointless busy work (murdering college students) just to keep them in practice, and to keep them from losing interest.
that is what this looks like to me -- organizations of political control murdering college students to keep in practice and to keep from becoming bored, with the ridiculous cover justification of sending a message against college alcohol abuse. eerily, if you read the police records relating to the latest case, someone in the bar yelled out at the victim that "he'd pissed his pants" because he had a stain. that could be why he was chosen as the victim that night. Quoting: Knows better 455708
Why is he "one nasty piece of work"? He says he was a victim and as such may have more information than the rest of us. Why the name calling?
I didn't see the Native Americans complaining and lashing back when it was suggested that it could be Native American Killers. I didn't see the Mexicans complaining when it was sugested that it could be a Mexican gang doing these killings.
What is he supposed to call this group he dealt with if they were a Jewish group? Non-gentiles?
The ac's post and theory is as good as any and just as believable as the other theories. To me it is more believable that it could be Jews than the other two groups.
You are the Nazi by objecting to logical posts and theories.
Don't censor him. He may be right. |
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pinksalute
User ID: 461436
7/1/2008 5:57 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
I didn't see the Native Americans complaining and lashing back when it was suggested that it could be Native American Killers
I am Native American...we object!
knows better you nailed it! |
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Ethan
User ID: 464840
7/8/2008 11:57 AM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
I think you are right about there being a political motivation behind some murders. |
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Ethan
User ID: 464840
7/8/2008 12:10 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
I think there is some truth to many of the theories.When i tried to find the meaning of the graffit in pennsyvania,I never set out to make a connection to an internet group called damnation.One of the members is referred to as a smart man.Another member is referred to as the real spice.Posh spice married a soccer player.I also never intended to be able to make the name of a well known English soccer player with possible letters from the clues-Scott Parker that plays with Ham United .The man they recently arrested for fraud owned Refco that made refrigeration components.His products have a smiley face on them.He is also a soccer coach and English.The most recent deaths that fit patterns are in Indiana and Illinois and they made an arrest of Nicholas T Sheley who has been killing in that area recently.I don't think this is a coincidence.In fact I think it may be a cover -up.Phillip Bennett,the ceo that was arrested was too eager to plead guily to fraud.Why is that?A guilty conscious or did the FBI agree to let him get away with murder ,so we would be left in the dark to how many are really being murdered?The last thing the government would want us to know is that hundreds are possibly being murdered and they outsmarted the FBI all during a time they spent trillions on a war to make us safe. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 478323
8/3/2008 10:11 AM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
How did this thread get so off topic?! It's about a serial killer. Get a grip. Anyone have any updates? I bet many, many families are being treated the same as this one:
Ex-cop: Szostak murder victim
Retired policeman says he believes drowning was work of "Smiley Face" killer
By JIMMY VIELKIND, Staff writer
First published: Sunday, August 3, 2008
ALBANY -- A retired detective says Joshua Szostak, whose body was found in the Hudson River four months after he was last seen leaving a downtown bar, was abducted and murdered by the "Smiley Face" killer.
Kevin Gannon, a retired New York Police Department detective who has tracked the case through his company, Nationwide Investigations, said his assertion is based on markings found in the Albany area as well as the circumstances surrounding Szostak's Dec. 23 disappearance.
"We have a cumulative amount of evidence to substantiate that Josh was probably drugged, abducted and murdered," Gannon said by phone last week. "I can't tell you exactly what it is, because it would warn the Smiley Face if he knew anything about us."
The Smiley Face theory emerged as Gannon and his colleagues have tried to link the deaths of some 40 students who went missing and later were found drowned in 11 states over the past decade. In each case, a smiley face was found spray-painted nearby. Gannon's investigation has been reported in newspapers and on radio and television.
All the victims are white men between the ages of 19 and 23 who were high academic achievers and many played competitive sports. Gannon said Szostak, a 21-year-old SUNY Plattsburgh student, fit that profile.
Detectives in Albany, and elsewhere in the country, have rejected the theory.
Szostak's death was ruled an accidental drowning shortly after his body was discovered in April by a Catskill fisherman, based on autopsy findings. A spray-painted smiley face was found on a tree near the Port of Albany, but police spokesman Detective James Miller said it was not linked to Szostak and was likely a "cruel hoax."
Bill Szostak, Josh's father, always suspected foul play. In addition to contacting Gannon, Bill Szostak had an independent autopsy of his son performed by noted pathologist Michael Baden. It concluded Josh drowned and had a blood alcohol content of 0.126.
Gannon said Baden's report did not specify how long Josh Szostak had been in the water, leading him to believe he did not drown accidentally.
"So much evidence has been found that I don't understand why the case was closed (by Albany police) within two hours of finding my son's body," Bill Szostak said recently. He said he has formed a nonprofit organization, the Smiley Face Victims Investigation Fund, and will hold a fundraiser Sept. 5 at the Verdoy Fire Department to raise money for Gannon's efforts.
Detective Miller stood by Albany's investigation.
"We worked on it in excess of multiple days from the course of his initial disappearance, and there had never been any credible evidence from retired detectives working on the investigation that gave us any indication that anything happened beyond a tragic accident," he said. "This should not have gotten to this point. This was strictly a tragic accident, and no one should be using it to further their own agenda."
[link to www.timesunion.com] |
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OP
User ID: 467459
8/3/2008 10:31 AM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
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Claycat
User ID: 478924
8/4/2008 1:22 PM
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It would be interesting to know what Bill Szostak, the father, does for a living!
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." William Shakespeare |
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ZOSIME
User ID: 384163
8/4/2008 1:28 PM
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Do you think the missing has any ties with the washing up of feet in Canada and Washington State. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 494926
9/1/2008 10:00 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
kryptic message posted on this forum
this is the title and first thread
it makes no sense.
Took kid to college
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So we took the kid to college.
Check-in was from 8am to 4pm.
We arrived at exactly 4:20.
So did the rest of the Freshman.
It took me awhile, but I think I finally figured it out.
Did they plan it like that?? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 494926
9/1/2008 10:04 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
Do you think the missing has any ties with the washing up of feet in Canada and Washington State. Quoting: ZOSIME
iwas on a forum once and i went to the welcome thread
i said hi i etc
it was a forum on 911 and i mentioned i hope being here is safe.
like in it was not illegal to discuss possibilties etc and how i had heard how all the forums are infiltrated by cia etc.
the person who replied when i asked if it ok
said
no we wont harm you , only cut your feet off and stick a carrot up your ass.
i found it quite creept and didnt stay around for long. |
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