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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 256792
4/26/2008 6:22 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
interactive map where some of the victims were found(one at
collegeville- hmm)
[link to kstp.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 406545
4/26/2008 6:24 PM | | Anonymous Coward
User ID: 423439
4/26/2008 6:38 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 406545
THANK YOU! Now that this pattern is known, I hope for a retrospective analysis of similar cases that leads somewhere, and I pray that this MO isn't copied.
Again, why target males. Forty of them. What if the perpetrators are women? College settings, strange dynamics... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 404711
4/26/2008 6:49 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
who is Dr. P on this thread? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 419279
4/26/2008 7:57 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
BUMPY
Crazy stuff going on.
I remember hearing about a college guy, i think in Ohio, who disappeared a couple months ago. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 422888
4/26/2008 8:46 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
I'm watching this DVD about a serial killer, It's called Dexter. In the third episode, there is a picture of the killer when he was a kid standing next to a palm tree with a smily face painted on it, how wierd is that? |
| anonomous
User ID: 423618
4/26/2008 9:08 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
keep phone lines open to someone when you travel alone ....it makes a permant record of all voice issues....even when entering your home anytime...stay connected to someone...til you are sure.. u are safe..get hands free equiptment for your auto..if anyone act asupisious and following you then quickly sneak and ring someone...til call your home pfone voice mail when leaving your car to into your home..then hide phone in your pocket.then exit your car and inter your home..whatever happens will be able for police to retrace your calls and content of last known calls.... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 422762
4/26/2008 9:23 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
Quote "Were under the influence of alcohol
Became separated from the friends with whom they started the evening" Unquote
Good advice to ALL young men in, around or close to ANY of those areas would be ...
stay OFF the alcohol and STAY with your friends! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 376759
4/26/2008 10:08 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
maybe it's not about sexual preference but about power.
The physical power over women is not a "challenge" but over Men it is. Isn't that what rape is about anyways about power at least in most cases?
...they probably get off on seeing those strong men struggle.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 423526
Nobody said anything about rape you fantasizing bitch. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 376759
4/26/2008 10:17 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
Quote "Were under the influence of alcohol
Became separated from the friends with whom they started the evening" Unquote
Good advice to ALL young men in, around or close to ANY of those areas would be ...
stay OFF the alcohol and STAY with your friends! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 422762
What if your friend are all drunken serial killers? |
| cutie
User ID: 420011
4/26/2008 10:22 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
def. sounds like the killer(s) would be female to me
maybe it's a group of chicks getting back at men
all the guys leave from where they were, they're not abducted...i could be wrong there, not sure...they end up killed nonviolently...like they are high and easy to drown and then a "smiley" face is left...very girly....
just my thoughts |
| cutie
User ID: 420011
4/26/2008 10:24 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
maybe it's not about sexual preference but about power.
The physical power over women is not a "challenge" but over Men it is. Isn't that what rape is about anyways about power at least in most cases?
...they probably get off on seeing those strong men struggle..
Nobody said anything about rape you fantasizing bitch. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 376759
nice mouth psycho scumbag....lmao |
| cutie
User ID: 420011
4/26/2008 10:25 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
Quote "Were under the influence of alcohol
Became separated from the friends with whom they started the evening" Unquote
Good advice to ALL young men in, around or close to ANY of those areas would be ...
stay OFF the alcohol and STAY with your friends!
What if your friend are all drunken serial killers? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 376759
and a dumb brain to go with it |
| cutie
User ID: 420011
4/26/2008 10:26 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
btw are u a male going to college(really doubt it)....tell me what bar you'll be in tonite.... |
| Indian Elder
User ID: 423942
4/27/2008 11:02 AM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
"body found...Sinsiniwa Avenue"
Sinsiniwa is a commen word in Chippewa land, which is Il, Mich, Wisc, Minn, and NDak. People think it means "Mound" but it means "Place of the Spirit" or loosely, where the spirit rests, (grave).
My read is the perps must be from the midwest to be familiar with the meaning. A group of men 25-45 who feel superior or entitled, educated, subconsciously or overtly gay, big fans of anime and video games, jealous of the "jocks" at school. Maybe college drop-outs and possibly in a secret club borrowing heavily on satanic teachings. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 256792
4/27/2008 11:14 AM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
a cult of vengeful native americans? |
| Hold the Phone
User ID: 385881
4/27/2008 12:03 PM
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The angle of it being a female makes some sense. Most of the reports indicate a lack of foul play. So a randy college-goer woozes out of a bar, a seductive chick approaches him and lures him to a predetermined spot where the deal goes down. Lack of water in lungs indicates death prior to submersion. I think the last thing you do if you are still conscious is gasp in a lungful of water. The victim could be observed and selected in the bar,and hit on to create the pretext for the later come-on, beforehand.
It makes me think back to Jacob Wetterling. He was abducted at gun point,in broad daylight, with witnesses present, and taken away in a van, never to be found, to this day. I remember reading somewhere(possibly here) that the family hired private investigators, who in turn, employed trackers with dogs. The dogs led to the door of a monastery at St. Johns, Collegeville, I believe.
The whole thing is very sinister, if you ask me. I have had a weird feeling about it going all the way back to the rash of drunken white male college student drownings in La'Crosse, which are noted in the posted links.
But the lack of foul play findings really mystifies me. That means no signs of a struggle, right? No bumps, bruises, scratches, abrasions, etc. Any toxicology other than alchohol. I mean, how are the victims subdued and killed without any physical evidence of such? Are the investigations all farces and cover-ups? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 424025
4/27/2008 12:49 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
"body found...Sinsiniwa Avenue"
Sinsiniwa is a commen word in Chippewa land, which is Il, Mich, Wisc, Minn, and NDak. People think it means "Mound" but it means "Place of the Spirit" or loosely, where the spirit rests, (grave).
My read is the perps must be from the midwest to be familiar with the meaning. A group of men 25-45 who feel superior or entitled, educated, subconsciously or overtly gay, big fans of anime and video games, jealous of the "jocks" at school. Maybe college drop-outs and possibly in a secret club borrowing heavily on satanic teachings. Quoting: Indian Elder 423942
That's my impression also, some type of satanic cult. But why not young, female virgins as victims? Probably because there aren't many of those anymore at the colleges.
Maybe the selection of victims is not random. Maybe they are profiled off the social networks such as myspace and facebook. If that is the case then this group might also have profile pages at these sites. It would be interesting to know if all the victims had accounts at these sites. |
| Indian Elder
User ID: 248787
4/27/2008 12:59 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
a cult of vengeful native americans? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 256792
Not hardly. We are much less vengefull than you folks realize and pretty much non violent (if sober) and mostly stay with in our own community. And we drive old beater pickups people would remember.
when was the last time you heard of a real native american committing a proven violent crime.
I was a member of AIM for years and over 200 of us were shot or murdered by fbi agents and our whole training was peacefull resistance...easy to do with 90 year old grammas and little kids always with us.
No, this is as my profile above...Perhaps since no police would get involved, even a group police belonged too. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 422218
4/27/2008 1:29 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
These killings are starting to be profiled along the lines of a group of people participating in a 'killing game'. The thought that comes to my mind is that movie, 'Hostel'. That movies depicts a group of American students in Amsterdam, who get lured towards the former Yugoslavia in hopes of some great, eastern bloc hostel. A whorehouse, as it were. It turns out to be a trap. The unsuspecting johns then became fodder for this certain underground murder club. A club that sells the act of murder. Any person who wants to fulfill their murder fantasy.. can.... You merely need to pay upfront. $25,000-American. Guaranteed!
Here's the plot of that movie.
Three female college students take a detour from their partying, enticed by a beautiful European woman who promises seclusion, safety and maybe even romance. What they get is a living hell where they are sold to the highest bidder who's fondest wish is to kill them slowly. Hostel 2 also follows 2 American men who, on the flip side of the coin, are willing to pay to join an exclusive club where a life will end at their hands...any way they like. It's a story of human monsters and the almighty dollar as only Eli Roth could tell it. Written by Paul Nomad of Dreadcentral.com
Now, do you think it inconceivable that there could be a network like that? Perhaps setting up a game where you can murder with total support? Just in case something goes wrong?
Just a theory of mine that could possibly help tie it all together. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 422218
4/27/2008 1:47 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
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| don't get in the van
User ID: 400555
4/27/2008 1:57 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
Could be girls as perps. I've read many entries at the 'footprints at the rivers edge' blog mentioned earlier. I am noticing that a few of the victims were last seen with 2 women. Hmmmm.
The satanic cult idea also works.
The monastery in MN where pedophile priests were sent is also lingering in my mind.
And of course I am astounded that the FBI says no serial killer and the Police Chief in La Crosse WI agrees.
Is this a cat that simply cannot be let out of the bag?
What if it is a satanic/pedophile cult of homosexual priests, judges, police, and high society types sworn to secrecy??????????????????? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 422218
4/27/2008 2:08 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
Could these whole string of murders be tied into a political blackmail scheme?
Like I said, it seems to be like a game. A killing game. There seems to be at least some kind of form of complicity when it comes to law enforcement. Why, then, would these files be buried? How come there is no further investigation?
It seems to me that any detective worth his salt would want to be the first to break this story. I made the connection almost 4 years ago. When they came on in clusters in Minnesota, Wisconsin. If I could figure it out, MN-BCA, FBI, whatever Wisconsin's premium detective unit is called, they should be thinking the same thing. What have they done since? Ignore it?
A coverup seems the most logical. It seems this story growes deeper and deeper the longer it's open.
Just ask yourself:?
Why a river or body of water?
Why a drunk white male?
Why stalk them at a bar?
Why the cargo van that has seldom been reported?
Why the smiley face?
Why the silence?
Why aren't they investigating?
Why are these kids dying? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 422218
4/27/2008 2:13 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
I really doubt that these might be anything political. I think that maybe politicians are involved though. A thrillKill Cult. Doesn't seem hard to imagine. That could explain the whitewashing. Political blackmail works as well too. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 400555
4/27/2008 2:23 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
Those are good questions, I don't have answers.
I can tell you that I spent some time at the University of Wisconsin-La Crosse as a student.
I have frequented 3rd Street MANY times and have been so intoxicated down there that I have crawled home - literally too drunk to stand.
But, regardless of inebriation, I always knew where the campus was and headed that way (opposite direction of the Mississippi River).
I left La Crosse a decade before the serial killings began.
I will tell you there were NEVER river incidents involving drunk young college students before at UW-L.
I do see a COVERUP by the Police Chief of La Crosse as well as the FBI.
What are they hiding?
Protecting their own? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 357912
4/27/2008 2:32 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
This whole thing sucks. I happen to drive a van. And I have a smiley face tattoo that looks just like that symbol on my right arm. I gave the tattoo to myself months ago as a joke. Not it doesn't seem that funny. My family thinks I need to get rid of it. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 398933
4/27/2008 3:16 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
Anyone read "THE ULTIMATE EVIL" by Maury Terry?
Some magical workings require loads of blood sacrifices.The idea being that with great sacrifice comes great reward in power or whatever.
I also wonder what the actual cause of death is in these guys?
No one bothered to check blood or anything?
Using pretty girls as lures seems like a clever ploy.It would work like a charm.
We men are so weak when the little head does the thinking, add some booze and there goes any sense of caution.
We really do have a sick society..
If you look into what happened with the Mcmartin pre school atrocities or what went on in Omaha with Larry King.You realize that contrary to what MSM tells you there does in FACT exist highly organized well funded cults/groups that kill with impunity.All over the world.
If no satanic cults exist what was it they found in Matamoros Mexico?
Few people know that Jeffrey Dahmer was a satanic murderer.Police found his satanic robes and paraphernalia when the arrested him.Zero coverage of that.
Supposedly the devil grants power for killing and mayhem.Drug dealing does fit in with it as well.No surprise there.
If you dig you will find a large amount of evidence about satanic activity.It is more widespread than anyone would believe.Which is what the perps count on.Ted Bundy once said"What we are doing is so crazy no one would ever believe it." Funny he said "we".Son of Sam shooter Berkowitz admitted he was part of a large well organized satanic cult.
His throat was cut ear to ear shortly after the admission(he survived)Then he clammed up and has not revealed much since.These people can get to anyone.
It would be frightening to know what the real big players are like and who they are.
War seems like a proper offering to the devil.I believe Bushco. is a highly satanic organization.It is the only explanation that makes sense.Nothing but bad has happened in this administration.I don't think it is by accident.
In fact the bush family has a history of accusations leveled against them for satanic pedophilia and murderous behavior.During Dubyah's term as governor in TX.He green lighted every execution that crossed his desk. Except one ...
Henry Lee Lucas was the sole recipient of Georgies mercy.WTF??? Maybe they had some kinship? How in the hell did that occur?Lucas deserved(execution) it more than anyone in the world.Something is very wrong with the picture here. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 422218
4/27/2008 7:25 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
Satanic murders? GW? Naaah....
But wait...
Accused Mass-Murderer Became President!
by Sherman H. Skolnick and Lenny Bloom
www.cloakanddagger.ca
www.skolnicksreport.com
The following is an item from Sunnyvale Ca. from the 2000 election.
"SUNNYVALE, CA --- Telling reporters and critics to 'stick to the issues that matter', Republican presidential candidate George W. Bush declined to answer questions Monday concerning his alleged involvement in a 1984 Brownsville, TX, mass murder, in which 17 people were ritualistically murdered and skinned.
'I will not stoop to discussing that,' said Bush during a campaign stop at a Bay Area software-packaging plant. 'We've got people across this country without health care, a broken educational system, taxes that are way too high, and all you want to talk about is something THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE HAPPENED 16 years ago? I'm sorry, but I find that offensive.' " (Emphasis added).
Bush, the son of a billionaire, was strangely living in the most impoverished place in America, Brownsville; living nearby to and also inside the headquarters of a Satanic Cult of which he was a member. Bush disappeared for three days during which ALL of the other of his fellow Cult Members was slaughtered. After he reappeared he could not explain where he had been. The local prosecutor continued to pursue Bush, sole Cult survivor, on mass murder charges for six months thereafter, heavily pressured by Daddy Bush to stop the investigation. For asking these questions the reporters were threatened with reprisals later by Bush and thereafter have feared for their life. Currently, as to 2004, Bush and Kerry have long been members of a Satanic Cult, Skull & Bones (Yale).
MORE DETAILS:
Following the attempted assassination of President Ronald W. Reagan, shortly after his inauguration, 1981, George Herbert Walker Bush, as Vice President, on a day-to-day basis, until the end of Reagan's second term, 1988, actually ran the White House. In 1988, Daddy Bush was himself elected President, actually Bush's third term.
In so doing, the elder Bush was violating the U.S. Constitution, 22nd Amendment, restricting the President to two terms.
During that time, and even before, Daddy Bush and son George W. Bush, had financial and satanic cult links with the drug trafficking from Colombia through the Brownsville/Matamoros area. Brownsville is in the U.S. right smack on the Mexican border above Matamoros, Mexico.
At one time Daddy Bush owned Texas Commerce Bank implicated in the drug traffic through their branch in Venezuela. Jeb Bush living in Venezuela with his Latino wife ran that unit, starting about 1979. They laundered the drug proceeds from Colombia and from there, through Mexico to the U.S. The Bush Crime Family has for many years been business partners with the co-founder of the Medelin, Colombia drug cartel, Carlos Lehder. [See, the website series, www.skolnicksreport.com "The Chandra Levy Affair".]
This was convenient to Daddy Bush having been with the CIA since 1959, through their adjunct, principally owned by the Bushies, Zapata Petroleum, later called Zapata Offshore, still later their interests joined with Pennzoil which by an induced bankruptcy took over Texaco. [See, "Oil & Honor---The Texaco-Pennzoil Wars" by Thomas Petzinger, Jr., 1987, G.P. Putnam's Sons.]
The satanic cult mass-murders revolved around in the Brownsville/Matamoros area. Among those involved were El Padrino Cult; and located outside Matamoros, Rancho Santa Elena, having human sacrifice chambers; and the satanic ritual sacrifices and mind control conducted by Aldolfo De Jesus Costanzo with others. The Bush Crime Family with their dope trafficking, Colombia through Matamoros, Mexico/Brownsville, Texas, were interlocked with these situations.
The ranch was reportedly involved in snuffing out dozens and dozens of primarily Latinos useful as "mules" in the drug trade and controlled through sexual satanic rituals and mind-control.
In the 1980s, Daddy Bush, actually running the White House, and former head of the American secret political police, was in perfect position to be part of the drug trafficking. The elder Bush was the head of the South Florida Anti-Drug Project, supposedly clamping down on drug trafficking from Colombia to Mexico.
During the 1980s, U.S. drug enforcement was near totally compromised and corrupted. A huge, heavy opus, mentioned in a moment, tells how the top people in the elite units of U.S. drug enforcement actually worked the other side. From time to time, they went to parties at palatial estates in Mexico and elsewhere owned and operated by the major drug lords. The drug police rubbed elbows there with movie stars and big shots from Hollywood, users as well as traffickers with dope. [In recent years. George W. Bush, William Rockefeller Clinton, and Mexico President Vicente Fox have visited and stayed at the estates of Mexico's major drug lords.]
For naive, poorly informed persons to risk their neck reporting drug lords to the drug police is both tragic and laughable. [See that very thick book about the top drug enforcers, being for sale and totally corrupt, "The Underground Empire---Where Crime and Government Embrace", by James Mills, Doubleday, N.Y., 1986.]
One of those convicted of the satanic cult mass murders in the Brownsville/Matamoros region and elsewhere was a fellow named Lucas. When George W. Bush was Governor of Texas, he mysteriously granted clemency to this mass-murderer. Yet, there was no basis in law or fact for the Governor to so favor Lucas, other than the Bush Crime Family was in business with him in respect to the drug trafficking and satanic cult operations of the Brownsville/Matamoros region.
With terrible-to-look-at pictures, the horrors of the one or more satanic cults so operating in the Brownsville/Matamoros region are detailed in a little-known, hard to locate book, "Hell Ranch" by Clifford Linedecker.
By 1999, some reporters had attempted to question George W. Bush as to some of the foregoing, while Bush was planning to run for President in the U.S. 2000 Election. As the head of an investigative group and Founder/Chairman, since 1963 of the Citizen's Committee to Clean Up the Courts, Skolnick began relating, on various radio talk shows, the problems the reporters were having in confronting George W. Bush with his apparent complicity in the satanic cult mass murders in the Brownsville, Texas area.
Quite some time thereafter, several websites did acts in some ways relating to all this. They palmed off as apparent jokes and parodies, purported stories about the Brownsville/Matamoros horrors. Whether their purpose was reputed damage control for the Bush Crime Family or to simply somehow make jokes about the satanic mass murders, remains for such website handlers and operators to explain.
These websites apparently gave the impression to poorly informed, naive people that the whole series of events in the Brownsville/Matamoros region were purely imaginary, and never occurred and there was no complicity of the Bushies including George W. Bush.
Obviously to detail all the persons and entities involved with the satanic cultists, human sacrifice locations, and drug-traffickers and mind-control dictators, in the Matamoros/Brownsville region would and could fill a series of encyclopedias on the dope business, satanic cults, corrupted dope enforcers, and related topics.
[A book that does go into many related details is "The Strength of the Wolf---The Secret History of America's War on Drugs" by Douglas Valentine, Verso Books, 2004, New York. The American CIA needs the drug lords to be able to penetrate otherwise hard to spy on nations, is a theme of the book.] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 422218
4/27/2008 8:54 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
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| Frigg Stuyvesant
User ID: 398933
4/27/2008 9:11 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
422218 good research.
I've read about it too.
What is there to do about it?
Don't want to get suicided? |
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