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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 424248
4/27/2008 9:59 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
Satanic cults are everywhere nowadays. I live in a small mountain county. One day I was walking my dog along the river when I decided to leave the trail and go down to the river bank. I walked upon a large, natural rock alter with two levels. On the second level were pools of blood all over in the rock crevices inside a pentagram made of rocks. There was melted, white candle wax circling the whole area.
It was the last week in March and this scene must have been their Spring celebration! I couldn't believe the amount of blood! I have no idea if it was animal or human blood.
I called a Sheriff I knew when I got home and he told me that they wouldn't investigate it. I asked why and he said that one of our judges was one of the members. I asked him how he knew that and he said that he'd seen the list of members when he was trying to investigate a tip from an out of town informant who said a baby kidnapping ring was selling babies to them.
I then reported it to one of the worthless alphabet soup agencies and they didn't do anything either.
I was totally frustrated but at least I had taken every rock from their pentagram and threw them in the river!
These cults go way up the ladder. It's disgusting. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 290186
4/27/2008 10:42 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
Is there a racial pattern for the victims?
I don't remember anyone saying that the perps were linked by internet. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 424261
4/27/2008 10:58 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
IN RE: "Fags on the Loose"
Police have ruled out foul play in all but two of more than 40 abductions and killings. Seems to me that would rule out rape, as even bodies left in water would leave trace evidence and scarring from such activity.
More likely if this is a Dahmer/Gacy type motivation, the killer is either unable or unwilling to maim or perform sexual attacks and is merely content to see the life force ebb from the victims.
This seems to go back to 2000 and I began following the stories nearly six years ago. It struck me odd that young, strong male student-athletes were being picked off and dispatched to their death with such abandon and ease.
Very interesting and quite sad... |
| Frigg Stuyvesant
User ID: 398933
4/27/2008 11:01 PM
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Crowley said that males of high intelligence made the most satisfactory sacrifices.
I think he was an arrogant bore personally but I have read a lot of his work in my researches. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 376759
4/27/2008 11:40 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
btw are u a male going to college(really doubt it)....tell me what bar you'll be in tonite.... Quoting: cutie
When you sober up you're going to feel really silly. |
| James Redford
User ID: 424282
4/27/2008 11:45 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
(For a caveat on this topic, see the note below.)
Below are news articles and video reports by 5 Eyewitness News, ABC Channel 5 (KSTP-TV, Minneapolis, Minnesota) which document that there is a network of serial-killers operating in cells in different cities in the U.S. which have tortured and murdered at least 40 young college men. The various local police and the FBI have done nothing to attempt to stop this network but instead have at every turn covered-up these murders and shown no interest in honestly investigating them, but instead have absurdly ruled in every case that they were drownings due to drunken accidents even though the evidence all along was inconsistent with drownings, and even though this network of serial-killers went out of their way to leave evidence of murder and their "calling cards," i.e., their depraved signatures. (Indeed, even after the FBI was given the below information and far more in addition, the FBI has still shown no interest in investigating.)
It was only after extensive evidence gathered by retired New York Police Department detectives Kevin Gannon and Anthony Duarte, working at their own expense, and with pressure on local Minneapolis Police from the parents of murder-victim Christopher Jenkins, that Christopher Jenkins' death was finally ruled a murder. Detectives Gannon and Duarte have tracked down a number of these cells and even know the names of a number of the murderers.
As the below news articles and videos document, this network is highly organized and exceedingly well-trained. 5 Eyewitness News investigator Kristi Piehl made the point in an interview on the radio station 92 KQRS-FM, Minnesota (contained amongst the documentation below) that the individuals in this network know very well what they're doing, i.e., in regards to the expert methodologies of kidnapping, torture and up-close homicide.
From the documentation provided in the below, it is obvious that this network consists of individuals with extensive professional training in covert intelligence agency "wetwork" Black Operations (i.e., BlackOps, "black world"). No attempt is made in the below documentation to expatiate the motives behind these murders, but it's clear that robbery is not one of the motives. This network is clearly getting extensive funding for their operations, and obviously has extensive insider intelligence capabilities, i.e., in the manner in which they can select and then track their victims without arousing notice from the local police or their victims (or, if having aroused notice of the local police, they appear confident in their ability to put the kibosh on further inquiry), i.e., as if they have ready access to confidential government databases and files, and are trained in the methods of covert serveillance with access to the means and equipment in which to conduct said while avoiding legal repercussions. The victims chosen all fit a similar profile.
These are obviously not "vampire kiddies," or any other type of rag-tag band of human-sacrificial occultists. Neither are they Arab terrorists, for the following reasons: (1) this network's activities would still be unknown to the public at large were it not for the unflagging work of detectives Gannon and Duarte (as the local police and the FBI certainly have shown great disinclination in pursuing investigations into these cases), and hence these murders aren't being done to make the populace submit to some hypothetical Arab group's political demands; (2) such serial-killing activities are repulsive and dishonorable by Arab mass-culture standards, and hence would hurt any hypothetical "cause" of such group; and (3) cells of Arabs running around doing such things in the U.S. would stick out like sore thumbs, all the more in our so-called "post-9/11 era."
Rather, these are hardened professionals, trained to the highest degree in Western-intelligence-style "wetwork," with access to the ground-level capabilites current U.S. intelligence insiders would have. As well, operations of this magnitude require extensive funding. Nor are the murders being conducted to satisfy the individual jollies of the ground-level operators who carry out these murders. Self-motivated serial-killers are notorious for expressing their own particular individualities in the selection of their victims and in the method in which they murder their victims. As well, self-initiated serial-killers virtually never work in groups larger than two people; usually they act alone. These are not serial-killers who selected their victims to fulfill their own desires to kill, but rather because they have been ordered to. This is their job--quite possibly a side-job (or more accurately, their actual main vocation, while holding a pedestrian job as a front), but still it is lucrative business for them.
The ideal in black-world covert operations is to kill as many birds with one stone as one can, i.e., to fulfill a number of diverse objectives with the particular operation. As well, black-world operations by their nature tend to be abstruse undertakings, and so the motives behind them will often still be hard to fathom for the masses even once revealed. As to the selection of victims in this case, there is a motive which presents itself. It is an ancillary motive, and not the main motive. The main motive here is initiation and compromising operatives who have been found worthy to join the ranks of this group of black-world agents, i.e., to "make their bones," i.e., "blood in, blood out" (i.e., murder to get in, and the only way out is to die). Compromising can be done by, e.g., video-recording the initiate with his victim, such that he and his victim are the only ones in the frame, with both their faces clearly showing. Thus having been compromised, the initiate is forever subject to blackmail, particularly as it applies to revealing any covert operations. He knows well that he can never go public, for if he did manage such a feat without first being killed he would be revealed to be a murderer. Moreover, even if he were willing to undergo conviction for murder, he knows that the legal system would be quite unlikely to desire to get to the bottom of his claims, even in the unlikely event it took him seriously, for what then would be presented is one hand of the government not wanting to know what the covert hand does, with those at the top working to make sure it stays that way. Indeed, he quite possibly may not have much of worth to reveal, as one technique of black-world operations is compartmentalization of people and knowledge, which can include false identities (or "sheep-dipped" identities which can be readily changed).
Since such "blood in, blood out" initiations require murders at any rate, the rationale for selection of victims can be quite trivial, so long as it doesn't conflict with the larger objectives. So it could be they simply willy-nilly settled on this profile of victims and method of murders to build a group "signature," i.e., a singature they would all share in common in order to build group identity (hence also the common "calling card"). It could be something as trivial as that. If one objects that such signature and calling card leaves too obvious a pattern for the law-enforcement system to follow, we are confronted with the fact that this group did in actuality do so, and thus they obviously appear confident in their ability to sidestep legal repercussions (i.e., at least in reference to the handlers at the top of this covert operation, who must view their ground-level operatives as useful tools which nevertheless can be discarded when doing so is advantageous). This signature and calling card would be this group's little inside joke to themselves.
Although I'll advance the possibility that there is perhaps more than merely that to their selection of victims. Throughout the era whereof government has existed, of great concern to all governments bent upon increasing their domination has been the control and subversion of young males who display independence and leadership qualities. Hence, e.g., in our modern age the massive drugging into oblivion of, in particular, male children who so-called "act up" within the forced government miseducation system, on the pretext of non-existent "conditions" utterly unknown to previous generations. These are boys who are unafraid to speak their minds and buck them system. In regards to potential contra-etatist leadership, these are the best and brightest, the ones who can spark a flame in the minds of men. Consequently, governments bent upon such domination rightly regard them as dangerous, i.e., dangerous in regards to their objectives, and even their existence. A government at the height of its power, at the darkest of hour, when almost everyone is convinced that there will be the black pall of tyranny overcast for generations to go, can come completely topling down vitually overnight by independent spirits who refuse to go along any more and who speak out, and who thereby inspire and set an example for others. Such independent spirits are usually rare, but are to be found in highest concentration in young men. Hence the necessity for governments to squash that independent spirit (to one degree or another) before it gets out of hand (the degree required in relation to the power which is sought).
Now 40 such victims (at the least) may not sound like a lot in regards such a scheme, but as I said, since such initiations require murders at any rate, such a black-world group might as well have "fun" in killing their natural enemy; as well as it serving as practice for the type of people they'll be "disappearing" when the government takes the gloves fully off. By the profile of these victims, they definitely appear to by the type of upstanding, smart and althletic young men who could shape up to be independant leaders and an inspiration to others.
Note: the above analysis in reference to this case assumes that the evidence gathered by detectives Gannon and Duarte and presented by ABC Channel 5 (KSTP-TV) is non-fraudulent, as there exists the possibility that this is a trap set by the government to discredit the idea of a highly-organized network of serial-killers and hence also discredit those who attempt to get the word out on this. The detectives maintain that they have eyewitnesses to some of the murders, and that they know the names of a number of the murderers, as well they have presented evidence regarding the "signature" method of the murders and the "calling cards" left, and more besides.
With the evidence presented by detectives Gannon and Duarte, this is clearly either a case of exactly what the said detectives and ABC Channel 5 (KSTP-TV) claim it is, i.e., a network of serial-killers, or a case of outright fraud, as a mere case of honest mistake would not account for the evidence presented and the evidence which the detectives claim to hold. Yet given that the detectives have worked at their own considerable expense, and that they would be subject to serious legal charges if they had gone to local police departments and the FBI with fraudulant evidence in an effort to start legal investigations, there would be absolutely no motive and indeed exceedingly strong disincentives in fabricating such evidence, *unless* they did so at the behest of the government in order to lay the above-described trap and are receiving covert remuneration for doing so.
Moving on from that note: concerning the reason why an intelligence agency would desire to have such compromised agents: the power that would accrue to an intelligence agency which uses such compromised black-world operatives is enormous. They would have sociopathic minions at their total beck and call, willing to carry out any acts, no matter how horrendous (i.e., so long as the minions in question believe that they'll be rewarded)--operatives who would never dare attempt to go public with what they know (not that such sociopaths would be given to pangs of conscience). Why, such an intelligence agency could even confidently use such operatives to rig up airliners with computer-guidance systems and rig up tall buildings with thermate in duplicitously staged terror attacks in order to provide a pretext to invade and take over other countries with militarily-valuable real estate while usurping ever more power and control domestically.
Concomitantly, related methodologies of blackmail hardly need be restricted to ground-level black-world operatives (and it need not necessarily be as extreme as outright murder, as such things as bizarre occultic rituals, and child-sex, can work quite well; and to some extent, especially in years past, homosexuality--the level of compromise being determined by the level of control desired). Such techniques would come enormously in handly in "testing the mettle" of those whom the ruling establishment allows to rise among the highest ranks in business, academia, and politics. Those not willing to "play along to get along" would be marginalized and pushed to the side, so only the scum would be allowed to rise to the top, i.e., only those who have been compromised: elite minions which the ruling establishment owns lock, stock and barrel, and whom can never break ranks lest their saturnalian proclivities be revealed.
This present post leaves aside an in-depth exposition on the history of covert government involvement in serial-murder (involving a number of the famous serial-killer cases we've come to know), as to do the subject justice would require more expenditure of time than I wish to devote at the moment. But I will leave you with a few documentary resources on that subject and other very closely related subjects for your edification.
"Programmed to Kill: The Politics of Serial Murder," David McGowan (iUniverse, 2004) [link to www.amazon.com]
"Documentation on Elitist Child Sex-Slavery, Snuff Films and Occultism," James Redford, September 3, 2007 [link to forum.prisonplanet.com]
Below is the ABC Channel 5 (KSTP-TV) documentation referred to in the above. For articles which include a video news report, the link to the video is provided below the article's URL. I recommend people save all articles and files to their hard drive.
Posted at: 04/23/2008 10:28:47 AM
Updated at: 04/25/2008 10:43:24 PM
By: Kristi Piehl, Investigative Reporter; Justin Piehowski, Web Manager; Nicole Muehlhausen, Web Producer
DETECTIVES: Chris Jenkins murder connects dozens around country
[link to kstp.com]
[link to kstp.media.cdn.dayport.com]
Posted at: 04/23/2008 11:44:26 AM
Updated at: 04/25/2008 08:20:44 AM
By: Kristi Piehl, Investigative Reporter; Justin Piehowski, Web Manager; Nicole Muehlhausen, Web Producer
THE JENKINS FILE: Rarely-seen documents related the Chris Jenkins murder investiagation
[link to kstp.com]
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Posted at: 04/16/2008 02:08:05 PM
Updated at: 04/25/2008 09:50:27 AM
Interactive Map of deaths that detectives believe may be related
[link to kstp.com]
Posted at: 04/18/2008 05:32:34 PM
Updated at: 04/25/2008 01:00:31 PM
By: Kristi Piehl, Investigative Reporter; Justin Piehowski, Web Manager, Nicole Muehlhausen, Web Producer
Christopher Jenkins Timeline
[link to kstp.com]
Posted at: 04/18/2008 09:36:27 PM
Updated at: 04/23/2008 07:18:21 PM
By: Nicole Muehlhausen, Graphic Designer & Web Producer
FEB. 17, 2006: We reveal that the case is open
[link to kstp.com]
[link to kstp.media.cdn.dayport.com]
Posted at: 04/18/2008 09:38:05 PM
Updated at: 04/23/2008 07:14:58 PM
By: Nicole Muehlhausen, Graphic Designer & Web Producer
MARCH 29, 2006: Water testing done with fake body
[link to kstp.com]
[link to kstp.media.cdn.dayport.com]
Posted at: 04/18/2008 09:40:58 PM
Updated at: 04/23/2008 07:14:12 PM
By: Nicole Muehlhausen, Graphic Designer & Web Producer
JULY 31, 2007: County decides not to file charges
[link to kstp.com]
[link to kstp.media.cdn.dayport.com]
Posted at: 04/23/2008 11:09:42 AM
Updated at: 04/25/2008 08:19:56 AM
By: Kristi Piehl, Investigative Reporter; Justin Piehowski, Web Manager; Nicole Muehlhausen, Web Producer
Extended video clips of detectives discussing the case
[link to kstp.com]
Posted at: 04/21/2008 02:09:56 PM
Updated at: 04/25/2008 08:21:43 AM
By: Kristi Piehl, Investigative Reporter; Justin Piehowski, Web Manager; Nicole Muehlhausen, Web Producer
EXTENDED: The Investigation
KEVIN GANNON
[link to kstp.com]
[link to kstp.media.cdn.dayport.com]
Posted at: 04/21/2008 02:08:05 PM
Updated at: 04/25/2008 08:21:55 AM
By: Kristi Piehl, Investigative Reporter; Justin Piehowski, Web Manager; Nicole Muehlhausen, Web Producer
EXTENDED: The Missing
ANTHONY DUARTE
[link to kstp.com]
[link to kstp.media.cdn.dayport.com]
Posted at: 04/21/2008 02:04:50 PM
Updated at: 04/25/2008 08:22:08 AM
EXTENDED: The Mistakes
ANTHONY DUARTE
[link to kstp.com]
[link to kstp.media.cdn.dayport.com]
Posted at: 04/23/2008 10:49:59 AM
Updated at: 04/25/2008 08:55:33 AM
By: Kristi Piehl, Investigative Reporter; Justin Piehowski, Web Manager; Nicole Muehlhausen, Web Producer
Anchor John Mason and Investigative Reporter Kristi Piehl discuss the case
[link to kstp.com]
Posted at: 04/19/2008 01:56:59 PM
Updated at: 04/23/2008 01:48:04 PM
By: Kristi Piehl, Investigative Reporter; Justin Piehowski, Web Manager; Nicole Muehlhausen, Web Producer
How Jan and Steve Jenkins kept this story going
[link to kstp.com]
[link to kstp.media.cdn.dayport.com]
Posted at: 04/19/2008 01:52:43 PM
Updated at: 04/19/2008 02:07:57 PM
Our relationship with the detectives
[link to kstp.com]
[link to kstp.media.cdn.dayport.com]
Posted at: 04/19/2008 01:48:39 PM
Updated at: 04/23/2008 01:43:19 PM
By: Kristi Piehl, Investigative Reporter; Justin Piehowski, Web Manager; Nicole Muehlhausen, Web Producer
We doubted the Jenkins at first
[link to kstp.com]
[link to kstp.media.cdn.dayport.com]
Posted at: 04/19/2008 01:45:06 PM
Updated at: 04/23/2008 01:43:08 PM
By: Kristi Piehl, Investigative Reporter; Justin Piehowski, Web Manager; Nicole Muehlhausen, Web Producer
What if young women went missing instead of young men?
[link to kstp.com]
[link to kstp.media.cdn.dayport.com]
Posted at: 04/19/2008 02:02:08 PM
Updated at: 04/25/2008 08:53:48 AM
By: Kristi Piehl, Investigative Reporter; Justin Piehowski, Web Manager; Nicole Muehlhausen, Web Producer
A story years in the making
[link to kstp.com]
[link to kstp.media.cdn.dayport.com]
Posted at: 04/23/2008 11:54:35 AM
Updated at: 04/25/2008 08:20:13 AM
By: Kristi Piehl, Investigative Reporter; Justin Piehowski, Web Manager; Nicole Muehlhausen, Web Producer
Minnesota and Wisconsin victims that detectives believe may be related
[link to kstp.com]
Posted at: 04/23/2008 10:34:49 AM
Updated at: 04/25/2008 01:55:20 PM
By: Kristi Piehl, Investigative Reporter
PIEHL: How the Jenkins story came about
[link to kstp.com]
Below is the audio of 5 Eyewitness News investigator Kristi Piehl on the radio station 92 KQRS-FM, Minnesota:
Posted at: 04/25/2008 01:08:59 PM
Updated at: 04/25/2008 01:19:11 PM
Listen to Kristi Piehl on KQRS Morning Show
[link to kstp.com]
[link to kstp.media.cdn.dayport.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 423600
4/27/2008 11:56 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
a cult of vengeful native americans?
Not hardly. We are much less vengefull than you folks realize and pretty much non violent (if sober) and mostly stay with in our own community. And we drive old beater pickups people would remember. Quoting: Indian Elder 248787
Yup. Serial killing is not something Native Americans do. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 424309
4/28/2008 12:51 AM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
James Redford, your post above makes the most sense to me. Very scary. The killings do seem to be by professionals, "perfect murder" as stated in one of the articles posted on one of these threads on this subject.
If true, though, what can be done about it? |
| Indian Elder
User ID: 309438
4/28/2008 12:47 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
J. Redford, excellent input.
As for what to do, in almost 70 years of life, I ve found that these cults arent a bunch of crazies, but usually highly placed ambitious people who find the occult a fast track to the power they seek...if you know the wiccan "high holidays", stay in and lock your doors because they find a sacrifice and offer the death of an innocent on those days...most cults have members who are high officials, police, judges, politicians, ministers, movie stars. Jane Mansfields death by beheading was said to be due to her involvment with Anton LeVey, for instance.
And look at the many politicians who belonged to the skull and bones club...how hilary and bil were seen at the Bohemian Grove in CA, where many say occult practices and human sacrifice have taken place. She is sure those dark powers will reward her (www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1018.html has some info). So no matter what she feels she will win the nomination. Its the power that attracts people to this darkness and once youre in its the darkness that wont let them go.
Fr. Malachi Martin said the rate of willing diabolical possesion was up 100 per cent. Recently the Vatican excorsist, Fr. Gabriel Amorth said its much more than that now, ecpecially amoung the very young. He intimated the music the young pound into their heads set up the process.
What to do?
1. Bring up your children with care. I didnt even let mine stay overnite anywhere and had a pool and stuff so their friends came to our house...Know who they hang out with ...Censor their reading, viewing and musical material. You think thats a violation of their rights? Well would censoring their physical food from poisening them be a viiolation of their rights? So dont poisen their minds and souls....Talk to them about this stuff, point out how alcohol leads to bad judgement and that lead these kids to their death.
2.If so inclined, look up the short form of the Prayer to St. Michael the Archangel, most effective for protecting our little ones.
Pray pray pray for we are immersed in a world of evil the seriousness and scope of which you have no idea.
3. Join groups and get active in supporting good laws and opposing bad ones. Be advised that these groups will be infiltrated and sabatoged by these powerful cultists and you may end up with parking tickets, etc etc to put you off. thats how you will know youre doing a good job. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 421309 (OP)
4/28/2008 1:10 PM | | Anonymous Coward
User ID: 423989
4/28/2008 1:13 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
I am 99% certain the killers are a maintenance technician with trane Air conditioning and at least 2 others that travel with him-her |
| i see you bastards
User ID: 400555
4/28/2008 2:50 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
I respect your info about the trane guy.
Why would the fbi and chief of police (La Crosse) deny there was a serial killer?
The fbi would nail an AC tech from trane in a heartbeat.
No, they are protecting their own on this one.
I am 99% certain that the perps are a highly organized unit of black operatives. A satanic/pedophile cult engaged in morbid atrocities at the highest level of the American establishment.
Homosexuals who are above the law and entrenched within American politics, law enforcement, the judicial system, gov't and big business.
This goes back to the Franklin Credit Union coverup. Omaha Nebraska, Larry King, Alan Bear, Craig J Spence, the list is endless.
Please see the documentary that was listed to air in TV Guide Tues May 3,1994. Never made it, was cancelled and the Discovery Channel was paid the half million dollars in production fees, as the rights were purchased and all copies of the doc destroyed. One copy made it to Omaha attorney John DeCamp however.
CONSPIRACY OF SILENCE is the title and it can be seen right here:
[link to video.google.com]
Whatever your opinion of these serial murders:
Ask yourself this one question:
Why is there a COVERUP at the highest levels?
Same coverup, different day. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 424676
4/28/2008 4:05 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
J. Redford, excellent input.
As for what to do, in almost 70 years of life, I ve found that these cults arent a bunch of crazies, but usually highly placed ambitious people who find the occult a fast track to the power they seek...if you know the wiccan "high holidays", stay in and lock your doors because they find a sacrifice and offer the death of an innocent on those days...most cults have members who are high officials, police, judges, politicians, ministers, movie stars. Jane Mansfields death by beheading was said to be due to her involvment with Anton LeVey, for instance.
And look at the many politicians who belonged to the skull and bones club...how hilary and bil were seen at the Bohemian Grove in CA, where many say occult practices and human sacrifice have taken place. She is sure those dark powers will reward her (www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1018.html has some info). So no matter what she feels she will win the nomination. Its the power that attracts people to this darkness and once youre in its the darkness that wont let them go.
Fr. Malachi Martin said the rate of willing diabolical possesion was up 100 per cent. Recently the Vatican excorsist, Fr. Gabriel Amorth said its much more than that now, ecpecially amoung the very young. He intimated the music the young pound into their heads set up the process.
What to do?
1. Bring up your children with care. I didnt even let mine stay overnite anywhere and had a pool and stuff so their friends came to our house...Know who they hang out with ...Censor their reading, viewing and musical material. You think thats a violation of their rights? Well would censoring their physical food from poisening them be a viiolation of their rights? So dont poisen their minds and souls....Talk to them about this stuff, point out how alcohol leads to bad judgement and that lead these kids to their death.
2.If so inclined, look up the short form of the Prayer to St. Michael the Archangel, most effective for protecting our little ones.
Pray pray pray for we are immersed in a world of evil the seriousness and scope of which you have no idea.
3. Join groups and get active in supporting good laws and opposing bad ones. Be advised that these groups will be infiltrated and sabatoged by these powerful cultists and you may end up with parking tickets, etc etc to put you off. thats how you will know youre doing a good job. Quoting: Indian Elder 309438
Indian Elder, thank-you for your information. Yes, watch your children like a hawk! And also pray for protection for them. But it's harder to be protective over the college aged.
I was thinking at the very least all colleges and universities in those states (even all states) should notify all students with a memo somehow to set up buddy systems amongst themselves. They should all be told that these murders may not be random drownings but rather serial killer(s). They should be told to travel in groups to and from the parties, etc. The colleges probably don't want to do this because it might affect the attractiveness of the campus for incoming, prospective students. Maybe a private group could give talks near these colleges and the word would spread.
I was the one that came upon the satanic alter at the river in an earlier post. I tried my hardest to have it investigated but no one in authority would listen. I'm sure it was because of the judge being a member of this cult. And, yes, I had some very strange things happen at that time and after that should have scared me, but didn't. My house was broken into numerous times. One of those times they made a stone pentagram inside. Another time a live cut off electrical cord was left in my hot tub. Another time someone poked holes in a gas pipe that filled my house with gas. The fire chief told me that it was a miracle the house didn't blow up. So I know what people like this are capable of. But if we let them intimidate us then they have won.
So how can we get something done about this when it may very well be TPTB that are responsible? My thought is some citizen groups to demand something be done about. TPTB may lay low if their is a public outcry. The two detectives and the reporters that have worked so hard on this need some support. |
| Indian Elder
User ID: 172015
4/28/2008 5:09 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
third try..
Wow 424676, i better type fast before my computer blows up. Below are some powerful ways to deal with this and if you cant get stuff blessed, or find the items, go to www.cukierski.org and request the objects be blessed.
*type up this latin prayer used by excorsists to repell demonic activity. Put a clip of a small crucifix on each copy you make, put around the house and carry with you:
Vade retro Satana! Nunquam suade mihi vana! Sunt mala que libas, Ipsa venena bibas (get thee behind me satan ...drink the poisen yourself)
Ecce Crucem Domine, Fugite, partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Juda, Radix David, alleluia ( Behold the cross of the Lord and flee ye advesaries,etc)
Latin is the language of true exorcism.
Put small wooden crucifixes over all doors, St. Benedict medals in the house. Blessed salt around your bed, over the thresholds and across your drive way.
Look around and see if there is anything new, even a button...if so burn it.
Buy food in smaller containers and if they break in, toss any opened food.
Buy a gun and look around if you have an odd knife that doesnt belong to any kitchen set...get a lock for your inside bedroom door and sleep with the gun and cellphone. If anyone breaks in and you defend yourself, put the knife in their hand, without your prints, and phone every tv,news press first, then the cops. Photograph all these incidents and make copies to store in different places.
Before you sleep say the 91st psalm (He who dwelleth) and say :
I bless, reject and send back any evil, curses, spells or bad intentions towards me or mine, to whoever is sending them or asking they be sent, through God almighty and by the blood of His Son our Lord.
Im sending before something else erases this. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 423447
4/28/2008 6:26 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
BUMP
ABC News caught onto this story:
[link to abcnews.go.com]
AHHHH!!! The world scares me! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 410595
4/28/2008 7:15 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
Homosexuals who are above the law and entrenched within American politics, law enforcement, the judicial system, gov't and big business.
This goes back to the Franklin Credit Union coverup. Omaha Nebraska, Lawrence King, Alan Bear, Craig J Spence, the list is endless. Quoting: i see you bastards 400555
Why cloud this current issue by brininging up that old one? This is a different group of people who are doing this. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 424794
4/28/2008 9:06 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
third try..
Wow 424676, i better type fast before my computer blows up. Below are some powerful ways to deal with this and if you cant get stuff blessed, or find the items, go to www.cukierski.org and request the objects be blessed.
*type up this latin prayer used by excorsists to repell demonic activity. Put a clip of a small crucifix on each copy you make, put around the house and carry with you:
Vade retro Satana! Nunquam suade mihi vana! Sunt mala que libas, Ipsa venena bibas (get thee behind me satan ...drink the poisen yourself)
Ecce Crucem Domine, Fugite, partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Juda, Radix David, alleluia ( Behold the cross of the Lord and flee ye advesaries,etc)
Latin is the language of true exorcism.
Put small wooden crucifixes over all doors, St. Benedict medals in the house. Blessed salt around your bed, over the thresholds and across your drive way.
Look around and see if there is anything new, even a button...if so burn it.
Buy food in smaller containers and if they break in, toss any opened food.
Buy a gun and look around if you have an odd knife that doesnt belong to any kitchen set...get a lock for your inside bedroom door and sleep with the gun and cellphone. If anyone breaks in and you defend yourself, put the knife in their hand, without your prints, and phone every tv,news press first, then the cops. Photograph all these incidents and make copies to store in different places.
Before you sleep say the 91st psalm (He who dwelleth) and say :
I bless, reject and send back any evil, curses, spells or bad intentions towards me or mine, to whoever is sending them or asking they be sent, through God almighty and by the blood of His Son our Lord.
Im sending before something else erases this. Quoting: Indian Elder 172015
Thank-you so much for your information, Indian Elder. I'm AC 424676 but will probably have another AC number this time. I had to leave for a few hours. A couple of the things that you mention I was advised to do by a priest but you offer much more information than he did. Thank-you. I believe that these things do help.
When I first started to investigate I learned that Anton Levy had founded a church up here in the mountains. It's an old mining area and the buildings in the towns are built on top of tunnels. It is said that they meet in these tunnels besides in the woods.
It just amazes me that so many people here seem to know about it but are afraid to do anything about it. They all thought I was crazy to try. Maybe they are right but it makes me angry that they try to intimidate me.It's very sad to think that there may be even animal sacrifice involved let alone human sacrifice. According to a Sheriff's Deputy they buy babies from an out of town kidnapping ring.
I really do feel that the college murders are being done by a satanic cult but maybe I feel that way because of my own experiences with these people. It is pure evil. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 424795
4/28/2008 9:06 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
...Gannon and Duarte say they've discovered a link between Jenkins' death and the drownings of at least 40 other men in 25 cities in 11 different states...
"I think it is a serial killer, but not one individual," Duarte said."I would just say, a group of individuals, probably located in more than one state," Duarte said, adding that he thinks they may kill again.
'Sick Signature'
Gannon and Duarte have done something that no other law enforcement agency has ever done in this case--they looked at the big picture and visited each site where the young man disappeared.
While most local investigations focused on where a body was recovered, Gannon and Duarte tried to figure out where the body went into the river.
City after city, when they'd find the spot where the body went into the water, they would find something else: The symbol of a smiley face
"It's very disturbing," Duarte said.
The paint color and size of the face varies, but the detectives are convinced that it's a sick signature the killers leave behind...
[ link to kstp.com]
I saw this story on KSTP, it is a bizarre developing story. They showed pictures of this series of smiley faces spray painted at the scene of these murders spread over 11 states, and it does look like the same signature.
If these 40 cases are linked, it would be one of the biggest murder sprees in the history of the US.
But as the KSTP story indicated, investigators believe it wasn't a single individual responsible for the murders, but an organized, interstate criminal gang.
The question is, why would an interstate criminal gang be murdering dozens of innocent, seemingly random individuals?
Is it some kind of cult? Why on Earth would a group of people be doing such a thing?
This is developing, the story is going to make a big media splash when it goes on Good Morning America next week. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 422218
4/28/2008 10:05 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
If we are going that way.. Sacrifice and devil worship.. You must ask why?
You know that we will never get the true facts unless we keep pressin. Sacrifice is a sacrifice is a sacrifice... Is that how we condone murder today? you bet it's tragic, Fuck them right? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 116726
4/28/2008 11:28 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
a cult of vengeful native americans?
Not hardly. We are much less vengefull than you folks realize and pretty much non violent (if sober) and mostly stay with in our own community. And we drive old beater pickups people would remember.
when was the last time you heard of a real native american committing a proven violent crime.
I was a member of AIM for years and over 200 of us were shot or murdered by fbi agents and our whole training was peacefull resistance...easy to do with 90 year old grammas and little kids always with us.
No, this is as my profile above...Perhaps since no police would get involved, even a group police belonged too. Quoting: Indian Elder 248787
The old beaters is horseshit. Indians all drive new vehicles because they're the only people in the country (except illegals) who get all their medical and dental care free for life, even if they're rich. The only old trucks one sees in reservation border towns are driven by poor whites who have to pay their own bills and buy their groceries with money, not food stamps. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 376759
4/29/2008 12:54 AM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
a cult of vengeful native americans?
Not hardly. We are much less vengefull than you folks realize and pretty much non violent (if sober) and mostly stay with in our own community. And we drive old beater pickups people would remember.
when was the last time you heard of a real native american committing a proven violent crime.
I was a member of AIM for years and over 200 of us were shot or murdered by fbi agents and our whole training was peacefull resistance...easy to do with 90 year old grammas and little kids always with us.
No, this is as my profile above...Perhaps since no police would get involved, even a group police belonged too.
The old beaters is horseshit. Indians all drive new vehicles because they're the only people in the country (except illegals) who get all their medical and dental care free for life, even if they're rich. The only old trucks one sees in reservation border towns are driven by poor whites who have to pay their own bills and buy their groceries with money, not food stamps. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 116726
Yeah I'd watch out for dems ol' injuns. Its like they might take over the whole country someday.  |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 422218
4/29/2008 8:55 AM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
a cult of vengeful native americans?
Not hardly. We are much less vengefull than you folks realize and pretty much non violent (if sober) and mostly stay with in our own community. And we drive old beater pickups people would remember.
when was the last time you heard of a real native american committing a proven violent crime.
I was a member of AIM for years and over 200 of us were shot or murdered by fbi agents and our whole training was peacefull resistance...easy to do with 90 year old grammas and little kids always with us.
No, this is as my profile above...Perhaps since no police would get involved, even a group police belonged too.
The old beaters is horseshit. Indians all drive new vehicles because they're the only people in the country (except illegals) who get all their medical and dental care free for life, even if they're rich. The only old trucks one sees in reservation border towns are driven by poor whites who have to pay their own bills and buy their groceries with money, not food stamps. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 116726
Hey man, don't bag on Native Americans. They got a raw deal from the protestant founders of this country. They are getting one still to this day. Not all Indian reservations are utopian societies. Some are the exact opposite.
read this.
WASHINGTON (AP) — Native American plaintiffs say the United States owes them $58 billion in a long-running lawsuit over government mismanagement of lands.
Plaintiffs in the 12-year-old lawsuit submitted the filing to federal court this week after U.S. District Judge James Robertson asked for their input.
The suit, first filed in 1996 by Blackfeet Indian Elouise Cobell, claims the government has mismanaged billions of dollars in royalties held in trust from American Indian lands dating back to 1887.
In a January decision, Robertson said Interior Department accounting for billions of dollars owed to American Indian landholders has been "unreasonably delayed" and is ultimately impossible.
At the same time, Robertson said the overall task is not hopeless, and he has set a June trial date to find a remedy for the seemingly endless legal battle. The government will have a chance to respond to the plaintiffs' filing before the trial.
FIND MORE STORIES IN: United States | Indians | Native | Interior Department | Robertson
In a statement, the plaintiffs said the $58 billion number represent the accumulated savings the government has earned from dollars that should have been promptly deposited into individual Native American trust accounts.
Cobell said the $58 billion number is reasonable. Earlier estimates by the plaintiffs have had the government owing $100 billion or more.
"We believe that our numbers are very conservative and represent the minimum harm that Indians have suffered under our broken trust system," she said.
The government proposed paying $7 billion partly to settle the Cobell lawsuit last year, but that was rejected by the plaintiffs.
Interior Department aides did not immediately return requests for comment.
This is pretty much off topic, but it bears mentioning when such rude comments are made about Native Americans. BTW I am not an Indian. |
| cereal killer
User ID: 422218
4/29/2008 9:12 AM | | Anonymous Coward
User ID: 411163
4/29/2008 10:27 AM | | Anonymous Coward
User ID: 411163
4/29/2008 10:28 AM | | Anonymous Coward
User ID: 256792
4/29/2008 11:11 AM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
found this on web sleuths forum -
the friend might be a good one to be interviewed by the media
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1:35 seconds into the below linked video (viewer is halfway down the page on the right) from the press junket held in (N.Y.?) today, Josh Snells brother had this to say:
[link to www.weau.com]
22-year-old Josh Snell from Hastings, Minnesota, disappeared in Eau Claire in June of 2005. His brother says he was in town for a wedding and later went to the bars. Snell was found four days later, pulled from the Chippewa River. Jon Snell says he doesn't believe his brother wandered into the water.
In a phone call with a friend "he said he was scared, that he was hiding in a brushy area, that he was running from someone, that he didn’t know who it was or how he was going to get away. (He said) he didn’t do anything, but he was terrified and he was scared for his life,” Jon Snell says.
I had not heard this fact before and it's not in print anywhere that I have seen. Although I'll double check.Below is a link to Josh's story.
[link to footprintsattheriversedge.blo...claire-wi.html] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 425352
4/29/2008 7:25 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
found this on web sleuths forum -
the friend might be a good one to be interviewed by the media
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1:35 seconds into the below linked video (viewer is halfway down the page on the right) from the press junket held in (N.Y.?) today, Josh Snells brother had this to say:
[ link to www.weau.com]
22-year-old Josh Snell from Hastings, Minnesota, disappeared in Eau Claire in June of 2005. His brother says he was in town for a wedding and later went to the bars. Snell was found four days later, pulled from the Chippewa River. Jon Snell says he doesn't believe his brother wandered into the water.
In a phone call with a friend "he said he was scared, that he was hiding in a brushy area, that he was running from someone, that he didn’t know who it was or how he was going to get away. (He said) he didn’t do anything, but he was terrified and he was scared for his life,” Jon Snell says.
I had not heard this fact before and it's not in print anywhere that I have seen. Although I'll double check.Below is a link to Josh's story.
[ link to footprintsattheriversedge.blo...claire-wi.html]
Wow. Maybe this is one of the cases the two retired detectives haven't gotten to yet. It sounds like the one they should be checking out. The victim must have told his friend on the phone his exact location and maybe other things. Does anyone know how to get ahold of those detectives to see if they know about this? |
| ratsliveonnoevilstar
User ID: 425387
4/29/2008 8:44 PM | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
Very insightful, however, speculating that the killer is one female, or one person is giving the killer a surreal killer persona. To think one person can be in so many places, study their prey and pull off that many murders as swimmingly so (no pun intended), is, well super surreal serial killer. I think it's a group of "thrill killers", albeit male, female, or other <smirk>. Either way it's disturbing at the very least. Why don't they pick on people who are mean, rich and powerful?! I think as far as your question about no signs of a struggle, right? I'm not positive but I thought I had read that the killer used blunt trauma to the head to knock out his/her victim. The angle of it being a female makes some sense. Most of the reports indicate a lack of foul play. So a randy college-goer woozes out of a bar, a seductive chick approaches him and lures him to a predetermined spot where the deal goes down. Lack of water in lungs indicates death prior to submersion. I think the last thing you do if you are still conscious is gasp in a lungful of water. The victim could be observed and selected in the bar,and hit on to create the pretext for the later come-on, beforehand.
It makes me think back to Jacob Wetterling. He was abducted at gun point,in broad daylight, with witnesses present, and taken away in a van, never to be found, to this day. I remember reading somewhere(possibly here) that the family hired private investigators, who in turn, employed trackers with dogs. The dogs led to the door of a monastery at St. Johns, Collegeville, I believe.
The whole thing is very sinister, if you ask me. I have had a weird feeling about it going all the way back to the rash of drunken white male college student drownings in La'Crosse, which are noted in the posted links.
But the lack of foul play findings really mystifies me. That means no signs of a struggle, right? No bumps, bruises, scratches, abrasions, etc. Any toxicology other than alchohol. I mean, how are the victims subdued and killed without any physical evidence of such? Are the investigations all farces and cover-ups? Quoting: Hold the Phone
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 204551
4/29/2008 9:33 PM | | Hold the Phone
User ID: 385881
4/29/2008 10:13 PM
 | | Re: Serial killer(s) stalking young college men across US | Quote |
No, I agree, I think the cult/thrill kill angle has some good points. It was not my first inclination of thought, but some of the stuff posted here has certainly caught my attention.
I was talking to my college age son about this whole thing tonight. One thing we came on was that college areas make a great hunting ground for this, because you would have a much higher incidence of people walking from bars back to living areas. A suburban bar would suck, because everyone just stumbles out to their cars and drives off. So you would not have to spent a lot of time profiling a specific individual. You would just have to select a bar in a college area so as to have a high probability of lone, drunken males swaggering homeward in the wee hours. The victim could be selected from any number of candidates during the evening, and then the perp would have to be outside the bar at closing, to watch for the lone dog. The killings are spaced widely enough in time to fit the profile of someone who travels a region of the country for some kind of legitimate business purpose. |
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