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Astrology ~ PLUTO IN CAPRICORN ~ 2008 - 2023

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D. Smith
User ID: 436409
12/1/2008 1:46 PM
Re: Astrology ~ PLUTO IN CAPRICORN ~ 2008 - 2023Quote

Even the role of a map/guide requires scientific validation.
 Quoting: idol_harobed

The idea that science has the last word on anything spiritual is as preposterous as religion and spirituality having the last word over science. Let people 'believe' as they believe, sciences greatest fault lies in its inability to allow for a spiritual world that does not apply to physical logic and empirical evidence, let science explore the area and information it is good at, and let those of a spiritual nature apply their thoughts and exploration to where the 'discipline' of science can not and should not go. Science and spirituality both have their place I am amazed at both sides insistence in controlling the other.
Wasayo
User ID: 20314
12/1/2008 1:54 PM
Re: Astrology ~ PLUTO IN CAPRICORN ~ 2008 - 2023Quote

Even the role of a map/guide requires scientific validation.

The idea that science has the last word on anything spiritual is as preposterous as religion and spirituality having the last word over science. Let people 'believe' as they believe, sciences greatest fault lies in its inability to allow for a spiritual world that does not apply to physical logic and empirical evidence, let science explore the area and information it is good at, and let those of a spiritual nature apply their thoughts and exploration to where the 'discipline' of science can not and should not go. Science and spirituality both have their place I am amazed at both sides insistence in controlling the other.
 Quoting: D. Smith 436409



Thank you to infinity for what you are saying here, precious D.SMith.

'Tis true, every word of it.

And, as you can see, D.SMith... I don't wanna play this age-old control game, lol. Love you, Wasayo
"Every word of God is pure: He is a shield unto them that put their trust in Him." Prov. 30:5
S.
User ID: 557634
12/1/2008 1:54 PM
Re: Astrology ~ PLUTO IN CAPRICORN ~ 2008 - 2023Quote

The idea that science has the last word on anything spiritual is as preposterous as religion and spirituality having the last word over science. Let people 'believe' as they believe, sciences greatest fault lies in its inability to allow for a spiritual world that does not apply to physical logic and empirical evidence, let science explore the area and information it is good at, and let those of a spiritual nature apply their thoughts and exploration to where the 'discipline' of science can not and should not go. Science and spirituality both have their place I am amazed at both sides insistence in controlling the other.
 Quoting: D. Smith 436409


Take love, for instance, which is non-tangible, no local per se`. The scientists say "love" is a series of complex hormones, phermones, and electrical synapsis in the brain. While this may be true, I tend to wonder if "love" doesn't CAUSE this flurry of brain impulses and hormone releases that are seen under a microscope, instead of the other way around, the brain impulses causing "love" to emerge?

Just food for thought. Who's gonna prove which came first?

Thanks D. Smith.

S.
No matter how many cookies you consult, you will find that love is our greatest fortune. ~ Leigh Standley
Darza
User ID: 378572
12/1/2008 2:19 PM
Re: Astrology ~ PLUTO IN CAPRICORN ~ 2008 - 2023Quote

Take love, for instance, which is non-tangible, no local per se`. The scientists say "love" is a series of complex hormones, phermones, and electrical synapsis in the brain. While this may be true, I tend to wonder if "love" doesn't CAUSE this flurry of brain impulses and hormone releases that are seen under a microscope, instead of the other way around, the brain impulses causing "love" to emerge?

Just food for thought. Who's gonna prove which came first?
 Quoting: S.

Bruce Lipton!! lol
S.
User ID: 557634
12/1/2008 2:20 PM
Re: Astrology ~ PLUTO IN CAPRICORN ~ 2008 - 2023Quote

Bruce Lipton!! lol
 Quoting: Darza


lol
No matter how many cookies you consult, you will find that love is our greatest fortune. ~ Leigh Standley
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 505793
12/1/2008 2:23 PM
Re: Astrology ~ PLUTO IN CAPRICORN ~ 2008 - 2023Quote

Wasayo , how will this effect two little grandchildren with divorced parents. One leo boy dob 8-14-97(434pm) and one taurus girl born 4-24-00(3:33pm year of the golden dragon)Both born in Marquette, Mi.
They both have capricorn moons and the little boy seems somehow always picked on and sad...he has alot of anger and I greatly fear a draft where he goes into the military at 18. I have five grandsons this age and up to 17. We all sense war in the wind.

The boy takes loss really hard. He has both grandmothers and he, his sister and I are very close and love each other very much, although miles away. Pluto just left my 8th conjunct natal mars square natal neptune in 5th and I lost my brother and a close male friend under that (and a job and money of course, spent or given to the children). I hope he can survive whatever happens and his sister as well.

Transits over the moon are very hard on people and with pluto its like a sentance it drags on so.
canislatrans
User ID: 516342
12/1/2008 2:56 PM
Re: Astrology ~ PLUTO IN CAPRICORN ~ 2008 - 2023Quote

Cat got your tongue?
 Quoting: Ahim-sa



You spend a lot of your energy pursuing Wasayo around the board. I'm sure you would have much more personal power at your disposal if you focused on yourself, rather than the others around you, regardless of whether you like Wasayo or not, or think you're doing the forum or yourself a favor by constantly making remarks derailing the topic at hand.

It is up to you whether you choose to perpetuate the cycle of negativity or not. If you continue, what makes you any different than your impression of your opponent? You are merely the opposite side of the same coin.

Focus your power where it matters, or it is lost.
And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.
idol_harobed
User ID: 297864
12/1/2008 3:04 PM
Re: Astrology ~ PLUTO IN CAPRICORN ~ 2008 - 2023Quote

I wonder, then, if I see myself "fit" with my astrological sign, do you suppose it more of a self-fulfilling prophecy? In other words, do I simply read into it what I want to hear?
 Quoting: S.

It is along those lines indeed. Astrological predictions are carefully written so it loosely fits almost anyone. May I suggest an experiment? Have a kid or friend to take the horoscope and remove any references of the signs, then clip each text and shuffle them. If you pick any one at random and read, you will see that it makes sense, regardless of its sign. Example: "You are going to meet someone happy". This happens every time.
I am what I read.
canislatrans
User ID: 516342
12/1/2008 3:05 PM
Re: Astrology ~ PLUTO IN CAPRICORN ~ 2008 - 2023Quote

It is along those lines indeed. Astrological predictions are carefully written so it loosely fits almost anyone. May I suggest an experiment? Have a kid or friend to take the horoscope and remove any references of the signs, then clip each text and shuffle them. If you pick any one at random and read, you will see that it makes sense, regardless of its sign. Example: "You are going to meet someone happy". This happens every time.
 Quoting: idol_harobed



Nice opinion, thanks for sharing it. :)
And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.
idol_harobed
User ID: 297864
12/1/2008 3:07 PM
Re: Astrology ~ PLUTO IN CAPRICORN ~ 2008 - 2023Quote

Astrology served a function at one time of allowing a self-styled elite to have influence over large numbers of people.



Couldn't the same definition be used of "kardesim"?

BTW: Idol , your old email doesn't function.
 Quoting: TexLittlefield

No, because its doctrine was written by many people not belonging to any group in particular.
I am what I read.
Geogal
User ID: 373387
12/1/2008 3:09 PM
Re: Astrology ~ PLUTO IN CAPRICORN ~ 2008 - 2023Quote

Hi, Geogal!

You could say that Pluto in Capricorn is gonna act like... Pele! Pluto's mode of action is always volcanic, heh heh... xoxoxoxoxo Wasayo
 Quoting: Wasayo

LOL! That means then that it's not only very unpredictable but likes sacrifices of rum and flower lei's. SHould be interesting... especially the times that she sleeps!
Woman of white garment, foreign woman, earth-eating woman, taking and giving life, she is Pele

"ONCE IN HIS LIFE, EVERY MAN IS ENTITLED TO FALL MADLY IN LOVE WITH A GORGEOUS REDHEAD" - LUCILLE BALL
idol_harobed
User ID: 297864
12/1/2008 3:10 PM
Re: Astrology ~ PLUTO IN CAPRICORN ~ 2008 - 2023Quote

Even the role of a map/guide requires scientific validation.

The idea that science has the last word on anything spiritual is as preposterous as religion and spirituality having the last word over science. Let people 'believe' as they believe, sciences greatest fault lies in its inability to allow for a spiritual world that does not apply to physical logic and empirical evidence, let science explore the area and information it is good at, and let those of a spiritual nature apply their thoughts and exploration to where the 'discipline' of science can not and should not go. Science and spirituality both have their place I am amazed at both sides insistence in controlling the other.
 Quoting: D. Smith 436409

I was not talking about science, but the method used by it. That method is very efficient in building verifiable knowledge.

What is preposterous is religious/esoteric people refusing to employ the scientific method to create their knowledge.
I am what I read.
S.
User ID: 557634
12/1/2008 3:15 PM
Re: Astrology ~ PLUTO IN CAPRICORN ~ 2008 - 2023Quote

I wonder, then, if I see myself "fit" with my astrological sign, do you suppose it more of a self-fulfilling prophecy? In other words, do I simply read into it what I want to hear?

It is along those lines indeed. Astrological predictions are carefully written so it loosely fits almost anyone. May I suggest an experiment? Have a kid or friend to take the horoscope and remove any references of the signs, then clip each text and shuffle them. If you pick any one at random and read, you will see that it makes sense, regardless of its sign. Example: "You are going to meet someone happy". This happens every time.
 Quoting: idol_harobed

I remember this very experiment being done on a tv show (Dateline or 20/20?) where the supposed astrologer had the students write down their name, birthdate, etc., and then he took the info and left the room. He was gone for about an hour and then came back and handed each person their chart.

People were in tears at how "right on" he was in telling them about themselves astrologically via their personal info.

It turned out he gave each person the SAME report, one that he already had printed up before the class.

WoW!

Hee heeeee.....
No matter how many cookies you consult, you will find that love is our greatest fortune. ~ Leigh Standley
D. Smith
User ID: 436409
12/1/2008 3:16 PM
Re: Astrology ~ PLUTO IN CAPRICORN ~ 2008 - 2023Quote

Even the role of a map/guide requires scientific validation.

The idea that science has the last word on anything spiritual is as preposterous as religion and spirituality having the last word over science. Let people 'believe' as they believe, sciences greatest fault lies in its inability to allow for a spiritual world that does not apply to physical logic and empirical evidence, let science explore the area and information it is good at, and let those of a spiritual nature apply their thoughts and exploration to where the 'discipline' of science can not and should not go. Science and spirituality both have their place I am amazed at both sides insistence in controlling the other.

I was not talking about science, but the method used by it. That method is very efficient in building verifiable knowledge.

What is preposterous is religious/esoteric people refusing to employ the scientific method to create their knowledge.
 Quoting: idol_harobed

IF I tell you to bake a cake flour is the most important ingredient, and you try to bake the cake without flour then you would expect to fail.

SO if I tell you 'belief' is the most important ingredient to spiritual success and you do everything but believe then you should also expect to fail.

Knowledge is based on success

this may not be good science, but its good spirituality

good luck in your endeavors

be strong in love
TexLittlefield Subscriber
User ID: 515913
12/1/2008 3:17 PM
Re: Astrology ~ PLUTO IN CAPRICORN ~ 2008 - 2023Quote

Astrology served a function at one time of allowing a self-styled elite to have influence over large numbers of people.................
>>>Couldn't the same definition be used of "kardesim"?

No, because its doctrine was written by many people not belonging to any group in particular.
 Quoting: idol_harobed


"Astrology" was/is also "....written by many people not belonging to any group in particular...."

Idol ~ click and send your addy to the address in my sig line.
Keep in mind its not my main address. I have a pic I want to show you.
tx54us101az66
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idol_harobed
User ID: 297864
12/1/2008 3:18 PM
Re: Astrology ~ PLUTO IN CAPRICORN ~ 2008 - 2023Quote

I remember this very experiment being done on a tv show (Dateline or 20/20?) where the supposed astrologer had the students write down their name, birthdate, etc., and then he took the info and left the room. He was gone for about an hour and then came back and handed each person their chart.

People were in tears at how "right on" he was in telling them about themselves astrologically via their personal info.

It turned out he gave each person the SAME report, one that he already had printed up before the class.

WoW!

Hee heeeee.....
 Quoting: S.


applause It is all about good hadle of a language, no more.
I am what I read.
idol_harobed
User ID: 297864
12/1/2008 3:26 PM
Re: Astrology ~ PLUTO IN CAPRICORN ~ 2008 - 2023Quote

SO if I tell you 'belief' is the most important ingredient to spiritual success and you do everything but believe then you should also expect to fail.

Knowledge is based on success

this may not be good science, but its good spirituality

good luck in your endeavors

be strong in love
 Quoting: D. Smith 436409

Belief is a starting point. The primary motivator towards discovery. I am pretty sure the concept of black holes started its life as a mere belief in Einstein's head... But a knowledge to be actually shared must be worked out to become intersubjective. There enters the scientific method.
I am what I read.
D. Smith
User ID: 436409
12/1/2008 3:49 PM
Re: Astrology ~ PLUTO IN CAPRICORN ~ 2008 - 2023Quote

Belief is a starting point. The primary motivator towards discovery. I am pretty sure the concept of black holes started its life as a mere belief in Einstein's head... But a knowledge to be actually shared must be worked out to become intersubjective. There enters the scientific method.
 Quoting: idol_harobed

I told a very old story around a campfire, it was one of those stories that had many layers and many lessons and ways of healing, there was a large group of people from different walks of life who herd the story, many later told me what the story meant to them. Some got from the story lessons I had never intended and in this manor I obtained new knowledge from a story I had known almost all my adult life.

You could believe that the 'looseness' of the story provided each individual the imaginative background to from there own lessons and healings. Or you could believe as I do that the spiritual telling of the story allowed the spirit to give each what they needed from the story.

My point what a spiritual person believes to be 'intersubjective' and what science believes to be intersubjective is not always the same.
angelpbj
User ID: 555549
12/1/2008 5:31 PM
Re: Astrology ~ PLUTO IN CAPRICORN ~ 2008 - 2023Quote

However, astrology does not say the stars and signs FORCE anyone to do or be anything. The stars do not control you... nor do astrologers. The stars do not compel.
.......
Take what you want and leave the rest... or take none at all. As Yolgnu says, "Your choice, their choice, my choice". Blessings, Wasayo
 Quoting: Wasayo

I used to disbelieve astrology because I could not see the connection between the distant planets and stars and our daily life on Earth.

But reading honest astrologers like you Wasayo and Van Helsing here on GLP is making me change my mind on this.

Sometimes you bring some very interesting connections AND predictions that helps to bring a better perception of the facts, mainly the *social* facts, history.

I believe now astrology can be used for an better intuitive understanding of our lives and the tendencies for the future.

I believe also that a good astrologer must be a good psychic.

I mean, due to the "intuitive understanding" part of the Astrologic prediction.

Do you agree?

hf
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 555549
12/1/2008 5:42 PM
Re: Astrology ~ PLUTO IN CAPRICORN ~ 2008 - 2023Quote

What is preposterous is religious/esoteric people refusing to employ the scientific method to create their knowledge.
 Quoting: idol_harobed

That are some level of knowledge that cannot be attained by the scientific method, because science needs control and logic reasoning and sometimes these aspects of human knowledge cannot be used to grasp certain realities.
Geogal
User ID: 373387
12/1/2008 6:24 PM
Re: Astrology ~ PLUTO IN CAPRICORN ~ 2008 - 2023Quote

However, astrology does not say the stars and signs FORCE anyone to do or be anything. The stars do not control you... nor do astrologers. The stars do not compel.
.
hf
 Quoting: angelpbj 555549

Hi angelpbj... there are interesting things I find in astrology, and only a few really seem to know the what's what about it really well. I think the astrology stuff in the papers is for the birds, but a personal one is likely a bit more accurate. hf
Woman of white garment, foreign woman, earth-eating woman, taking and giving life, she is Pele

"ONCE IN HIS LIFE, EVERY MAN IS ENTITLED TO FALL MADLY IN LOVE WITH A GORGEOUS REDHEAD" - LUCILLE BALL
angelpbj
User ID: 555549
12/1/2008 6:47 PM
Re: Astrology ~ PLUTO IN CAPRICORN ~ 2008 - 2023Quote

Hi angelpbj... there are interesting things I find in astrology, and only a few really seem to know the what's what about it really well. I think the astrology stuff in the papers is for the birds, but a personal one is likely a bit more accurate. hf
 Quoting: Geogal

Hi Geogal, nice to see you here!:-)

I'm starting to believe that astrology works well in connection with the "sensibility" (psychic sensibility/intuition I mean) of the astrologer, as a trigger so to speak, of the knowledge that comes with this perception.

I'm currently quite impressed with some connections and visions that Wasayo and VH can make out of their readings, mainly regarding social and historical events.

......
Wasayo (nli)
User ID: 8077
12/1/2008 6:59 PM
Re: Astrology ~ PLUTO IN CAPRICORN ~ 2008 - 2023Quote

Wasayo , how will this effect two little grandchildren with divorced parents. One leo boy dob 8-14-97(434pm) and one taurus girl born 4-24-00(3:33pm year of the golden dragon)Both born in Marquette, Mi.
They both have capricorn moons and the little boy seems somehow always picked on and sad...he has alot of anger and I greatly fear a draft where he goes into the military at 18. I have five grandsons this age and up to 17. We all sense war in the wind.

The boy takes loss really hard. He has both grandmothers and he, his sister and I are very close and love each other very much, although miles away. Pluto just left my 8th conjunct natal mars square natal neptune in 5th and I lost my brother and a close male friend under that (and a job and money of course, spent or given to the children). I hope he can survive whatever happens and his sister as well.

Transits over the moon are very hard on people and with pluto its like a sentance it drags on so.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 505793



Dear AC 505793,

This post of yours deeply touches my heart. I will get back to you on it tomorrow.

You see, I am a grandmother too. Tonight I am running astrology charts for your two grandchildren, and hopefully this can point to some helpful ideas concerning your lovely grandchildren. Sincerely, Wasayo
Wasayo (nli)
User ID: 8077
12/1/2008 7:02 PM
Re: Astrology ~ PLUTO IN CAPRICORN ~ 2008 - 2023Quote

Cat got your tongue?



You spend a lot of your energy pursuing Wasayo around the board. I'm sure you would have much more personal power at your disposal if you focused on yourself, rather than the others around you, regardless of whether you like Wasayo or not, or think you're doing the forum or yourself a favor by constantly making remarks derailing the topic at hand.

It is up to you whether you choose to perpetuate the cycle of negativity or not. If you continue, what makes you any different than your impression of your opponent? You are merely the opposite side of the same coin.

Focus your power where it matters, or it is lost.
 Quoting: canislatrans



Dear Canis,

This is an absolutely remarkable post, and I sincerely thank you.

There is so much wisdom in your words... and it will be helpful to many, of that I'm sure. It is to me.

And yeah, earlier on this thread you mentioned ~ two Coyotes getting married, hee hee... I'm game! (wink)

Wasayo-Heyoka-Coyote
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 532463
12/2/2008 12:14 PM
Re: Astrology ~ PLUTO IN CAPRICORN ~ 2008 - 2023Quote

Wasayo , how will this effect two little grandchildren with divorced parents. One leo boy dob 8-14-97(434pm) and one taurus girl born 4-24-00(3:33pm year of the golden dragon)Both born in Marquette, Mi.
They both have capricorn moons and the little boy seems somehow always picked on and sad...he has alot of anger and I greatly fear a draft where he goes into the military at 18. I have five grandsons this age and up to 17. We all sense war in the wind.

The boy takes loss really hard. He has both grandmothers and he, his sister and I are very close and love each other very much, although miles away. Pluto just left my 8th conjunct natal mars square natal neptune in 5th and I lost my brother and a close male friend under that (and a job and money of course, spent or given to the children). I hope he can survive whatever happens and his sister as well.

Transits over the moon are very hard on people and with pluto its like a sentance it drags on so.



Dear AC 505793,

This post of yours deeply touches my heart. I will get back to you on it tomorrow.

You see, I am a grandmother too. Tonight I am running astrology charts for your two grandchildren, and hopefully this can point to some helpful ideas concerning your lovely grandchildren. Sincerely, Wasayo
 Quoting: Wasayo (nli) 8077



Deepest full thanks...I will put you and yours in my prayer list... Their Dad is a capricorn sun, libra moon, by the way (1-11-69, morning, rising was 28 aries). Thaanks again.
Wasayo (nli)
User ID: 8077
12/3/2008 12:34 PM
Re: Astrology ~ PLUTO IN CAPRICORN ~ 2008 - 2023Quote

However, astrology does not say the stars and signs FORCE anyone to do or be anything. The stars do not control you... nor do astrologers. The stars do not compel.
.......
Take what you want and leave the rest... or take none at all. As Yolgnu says, "Your choice, their choice, my choice". Blessings, Wasayo

I used to disbelieve astrology because I could not see the connection between the distant planets and stars and our daily life on Earth.

But reading honest astrologers like you Wasayo and Van Helsing here on GLP is making me change my mind on this.

Sometimes you bring some very interesting connections AND predictions that helps to bring a better perception of the facts, mainly the *social* facts, history.

I believe now astrology can be used for an better intuitive understanding of our lives and the tendencies for the future.

I believe also that a good astrologer must be a good psychic.

I mean, due to the "intuitive understanding" part of the Astrologic prediction.

Do you agree?

hf
 Quoting: angelpbj 555549



Dear angelpbj,

Thank you so much for your really nice, kind words about Van Helsing and me, wow!

It's interesting that you believe "a good astrologer must be a good psychic". That works for me, since I'm both! I think it helps if an astrologer is at least intuitive or an empath, because otherwise a delineation (reading) gets pretty cold and clinical, lol.

My favorite astrologers are also psychics ~ Judy Hall and Donna Cunningham. I collect all their astro books! Both are also counselors.

So, in short, I agree with you. You sound darling, and your vibe is very light, gentle, and airy... a little sprite. (big smile) Hugs & Blessings to you, Wasayo
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 471789
12/3/2008 12:46 PM
Re: Astrology ~ PLUTO IN CAPRICORN ~ 2008 - 2023Quote

Pluto in Virgo : Civil Rights Movement
Pluto in Libra : Sexual Revolution
Pluto in Scorpio : AIDS
Pluto in Sagittarius: Religious Terrorism
Pluto in Capricorn:
Wasayo (nli)
User ID: 8077
12/3/2008 12:47 PM
Re: Astrology ~ PLUTO IN CAPRICORN ~ 2008 - 2023Quote

Wasayo , how will this effect two little grandchildren with divorced parents. One leo boy dob 8-14-97(434pm) and one taurus girl born 4-24-00(3:33pm year of the golden dragon)Both born in Marquette, Mi.
They both have capricorn moons and the little boy seems somehow always picked on and sad...he has alot of anger and I greatly fear a draft where he goes into the military at 18. I have five grandsons this age and up to 17. We all sense war in the wind.

The boy takes loss really hard. He has both grandmothers and he, his sister and I are very close and love each other very much, although miles away. Pluto just left my 8th conjunct natal mars square natal neptune in 5th and I lost my brother and a close male friend under that (and a job and money of course, spent or given to the children). I hope he can survive whatever happens and his sister as well.

Transits over the moon are very hard on people and with pluto its like a sentance it drags on so.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 505793



Dear Caring & Loving Grandmother,

I've done astrology charts for your two grandchildren. The little girl (Taurus) clearly shows in her chart that she KNEW (before coming into life) that she would be going into a broken home. Her astrology chart is remarkable ~ she is one of the young generation born in 2000 when there was a huge stellar configuration in Taurus ~ she has five planets in Taurus. She has that Moon in Capricorn you mentioned, and Virgo rising (ascendant). She also has Neptune and Uranus in Aquarius, a highly spiritually-aware marker.

The little boy (Leo) also has, as you said, his natal Moon in Capricorn. He is a Leo, with Sagittarius rising. Normally, Sagg rising would indicate that he is an outgoing little boy, but in his case, he has Pluto in Sagittarius in his 12th house rising on his ascendant and Moon in Capricorn in his first house. This little one is depressed, and taking it very hard.

The little boy does show strong ties to his Daddy, and I feel there will be future contact and companionship there. I don't see his Daddy "writing him off"... an enduring tie remains.

Moon in Capricorn in young children is the astrological signature, in a divorce case such as this ~ of an emotionally cold and uncaring Mother. It indicates some kind of trauma relating to the Mother... abandonment? Emotional abuse?

One good thing, dear Grandmother, is that children born with a Moon in Capricorn are like little grown-ups in a child's body. In this case, it is their Moon position ~ so both are more emotionally mature and grounded than is the average child.

My sense is that these two will be very cautious, once they are adults, as to whom they give their trust and love. They may be emotionally guarded and not really open up... until they are SURE. They have a kind of emotional RADAR which will serve them well. They are survivors.

If you would like, I have Kepler 7.0 astro software horoscopes for them which I have done, and I can send you a Child's Astrology report for each. If you want to do this, just write me at Skyrider92365@yahoo.com

The fact that you, the other Grandma, and others are in their little lives and love and support them means everything. They are dollies and they will make it. It's just sad that they have had to go through such pain at such a young age. In the end, each will be much stronger for it... and I see good lives and great achievement from both children. Blessings to you, Wasayo
505793
User ID: 505793
12/3/2008 3:30 PM
Re: Astrology ~ PLUTO IN CAPRICORN ~ 2008 - 2023Quote

Thank you so much, I will do that. Blessings---Grandmother.
Of Course
User ID: 565263
12/3/2008 9:01 PM
Re: Astrology ~ PLUTO IN CAPRICORN ~ 2008 - 2023Quote

In a polar world, there are two sides.
Don't forget the opposite sign.
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