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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 429604
5/7/2008 9:07 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
The graffiti in the pictures from PA looks like 4 Pi signs put together. Which could refer to the cult "four pi" and the black cross also has ties to the "four pi cult" as mentioned in earlier posts. |
| fireinside
User ID: 430002
5/8/2008 2:46 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Assuming there is a serial killer or group of killers at work here, consider the determination involved in killing upwards of forty people over the course of a decade. The individual/individuals involved would have to be extremely patient, organized, and most importantly motivated. What immense motivation would such a skilled operator have to continue carrying out these pointless attacks over the years? Consider how much your life changes over the course of a decade. Over a period of time, people come and go, interests change, etc. The reason why these deaths haven't aroused much interest from local law enforcement is because there's been little sign of struggle and no evidence on the bodies of foul play. Now, the idea that a group of satanists are behind these deaths is ridiculous. Where are they performing their black mass, in the back of a cargo van? Again what about the lack of evidence on the bodies? Evidence going back to the early seventies links the Four Pi to gruesome and violent murders in the California area. I don't see any connection here. If you want to pull a group out of 1970's California why not a holdover of the zebra killings. The victims were all "white" and abducted into vans, tortured and murdered. Perhaps it's best if we keep it simple. The perpetrator/s simply abduct young drunk man, suffocate them with a vacuum pump, and disgard the bodies in a nearby body of water. A seial killer performing cold blooded murder, plan and simple. Perhaps the closer reality is nearly all of the victims tragically drowned, while one or two were the victims of foul play. Maybe there is a killer, and he's copycatting accidental deaths to cover his tracks. Good luck to those investigating. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 287506
5/8/2008 3:04 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
La Crosse - the cross |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 287506
5/8/2008 3:08 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
"Perhaps it's best if we keep it simple. The perpetrator/s simply abduct young drunk man, suffocate them with a vacuum pump, and disgard the bodies in a nearby body of water"
lol! |
| HVAC Tech
User ID: 430014
5/8/2008 3:19 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
You know there is a band named Train that has a few albums with a child like charactor on their covers. The child charactor is pictured with a crown. (This is likely a reach, but odd.) |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 287506
5/8/2008 3:24 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
why would Jenkins have his own hair in his hand,(when found dead) if he was suffocated with a vacuum pipe.? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 430021
5/8/2008 3:34 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
You know there is a band named Train that has a few albums with a child like charactor on their covers. The child charactor is pictured with a crown. (This is likely a reach, but odd.) Quoting: HVAC Tech 430014
Just to add artwork.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to en.wikipedia.org] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 287506
5/8/2008 3:36 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
A reach. |
| acemichaels
User ID: 430057
5/8/2008 4:51 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Strange Cluster Of Microbiologists'
Deaths Under The Microscope
By Alanna Mitchell, Simon Cooper, and Carolyn Abraham
Compiled by Alanna Mitchell
The Globe and Mail
5-4-2
It's a tale only the best conspiracy theorist could dream up.
Eleven microbiologists mysteriously dead over the span of just five months. Some of them world leaders in developing weapons-grade biological plagues. Others the best in figuring out how to stop millions from dying because of biological weapons. Still others, experts in the theory of bioterrorism.
Throw in a few Russian defectors, a few nervy U.S. biotech companies, a deranged assassin or two, a bit of Elvis, a couple of Satanists, a subtle hint of espionage, a big whack of imagination, and the plot is complete, if a bit reminiscent of James Bond.
The first three died in the space of just over a week in November. Benito Que, 52, was an expert in infectious diseases and cellular biology at the Miami Medical School. Police originally suspected that he had been beaten on Nov. 12 in a carjacking in the medical school's parking lot. Strangely enough, though, his body showed no signs of a beating. Doctors then began to suspect a stroke.
Just four days after Dr. Que fell unconscious came the mysterious disappearance of Don Wiley, 57, one of the foremost microbiologists in the United States. Dr. Wiley, of the Howard Hughes Medical Institute at Harvard University, was an expert on how the immune system responds to viral attacks such as the classic doomsday plagues of HIV, ebola and influenza.
He had just bought tickets to take his son to Graceland the following day. Police found his rental car on a bridge outside Memphis, Tenn. His body was later found in the Mississippi River. Forensic experts said he may have had a dizzy spell and have fallen off the bridge.
Just five days after that, the world-class microbiologist and high-profile Russian defector Valdimir Pasechnik, 64, fell dead. The pathologist who did the autopsy, and who also happened to be associated with Britain's spy agency, concluded he died of a stroke.
Dr. Pasechnik, who defected to the United Kingdom in 1989, played a huge role in Russian biowarfare and helped to figure out how to modify cruise missiles to deliver the agents of mass biological destruction.
The next two deaths came four days apart in December. Robert Schwartz, 57, was stabbed and slashed with what police believe was a sword in his farmhouse in Leesberg, Va. His daughter, who identifies herself as a pagan high priestess, and several of her fellow pagans have been charged.
Dr. Schwartz was an expert in DNA sequencing and pathogenic micro-organisms, who worked at the Center for Innovative Technology in Herndon, Va.
Four days later, Nguyen Van Set, 44, died at work in Geelong, Australia, in a laboratory accident. He entered an airlocked storage lab and died from exposure to nitrogen. Other scientists at the animal diseases facility of the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization had just come to fame for discovering a virulent strain of mousepox, which could be modified to affect smallpox.
Then in February, the Russian microbiologist Victor Korshunov, 56, an expert in intestinal bacteria of children around the world, was bashed over the head near his home in Moscow. Five days later the British microbiologist Ian Langford, 40, was found dead in his home near Norwich, England, naked from the waist down and wedged under a chair. He was an expert in environmental risks and disease.
Two weeks later, two prominent microbiologists died in San Francisco. Tanya Holzmayer, 46, a Russian who moved to the U.S. in 1989, focused on the part of the human molecular structure that could be affected best by medicine.
She was killed by fellow microbiologist Guyang (Matthew) Huang, 38, who shot her seven times when she opened the door to a pizza delivery. Then he shot himself.
The final two deaths came one day after the other in March. David Wynn-Williams, 55, a respected astrobiologist with the British Antarctic Survey, who studied the habits of microbes that might survive in outer space, died in a freak road accident near his home in Cambridge, England. He was hit by a car while he was jogging.
The following day, Steven Mostow, 63, known as Dr. Flu for his expertise in treating influenza, and a noted expert in bioterrorism, died when the airplane he was piloting crashed near Denver.
So what does any of it mean?
"Statistically, what are the chances?" wondered a prominent North American microbiologist reached last night at an international meeting of infectious-disease specialists in Chicago.
Janet Shoemaker, director of public and scientific affairs of the American Society for Microbiology in Washington, D.C., pointed out yesterday that there are about 20,000 academic researchers in microbiology in the U.S. Still, not all of these are of the elevated calibre of those recently deceased.
She had a chilling, final thought. When microbiologists die in a lab, there's a way of taking note of the deaths and adding them up. When they die in freakish accidents outside the lab, nobody keeps track.
Suspicious deaths
The sudden and suspicious deaths of 11 of the world's leading microbiologists.
Who they were:
1. Nov. 12, 2001:
Benito Que was said to have been beaten in a Miami parking lot and died later.
2. Nov. 16, 2001:
Don C. Wiley went missing. Was found Dec. 20. Investigators said he got dizzy on a Memphis bridge and fell to his death in a river.
3. Nov. 21, 2001:
Vladimir Pasechnik, former high-level Russian microbiologist who defected in 1989 to the U.K. apparently died from a stroke.
4. Dec. 10, 2001:
Robert M. Schwartz was stabbed to death in Leesberg, Va. Three Satanists have been arrested.
5. Dec. 14, 2001:
Nguyen Van Set died in an airlock filled with nitrogen in his lab in Geelong, Australia.
6. Feb. 9, 2002:
Victor Korshunov had his head bashed in near his home in Moscow.
7. Feb. 14, 2002:
Ian Langford was found partially naked and wedged under a chair in Norwich, England.
8. 9. Feb. 28, 2002:
San Francisco resident Tanya Holzmayer was killed by a microbiologist colleague, Guyang Huang, who shot her as she took delivery of a pizza and then apparently shot himself.
10. March 24, 2002:
David Wynn-Williams died in a road accident near his home in Cambridge, England.
11. March 25, 2002:
Steven Mostow of the Colorado Health Sciences Centre, killed in a plane he was flying near Denver. |
| acemichaels
User ID: 430057
5/8/2008 7:37 PM | | Anonymous Coward
User ID: 287506
5/9/2008 8:43 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
well, we cant rule out the Trane connection, its a good theory..
I personally think its more widespread than that..,
its a criminal enterprise with an agenda ....the whole pyramid shit with a hierarchy.., its very, very, very organized. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 287506
5/9/2008 8:51 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
i might be far out here.., but could this be somekind of a inquisition going on... the water would serve as a purification element and so on... this is a cult im sure...
dont really know... |
| HH
User ID: 368930
5/9/2008 9:51 AM | | Anonymous Coward
User ID: 385176
5/9/2008 7:36 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
maybe they are filming the killings also- like snuff films.
arms/drugs/porn/snuff all that shit Quoting: Anonymous Coward 287506
I agree with this.
BTW, Gannon and Duarte are very familiar with tagging. In the New York case, Gannon recognized tagging that didn't belong. I'll bet they have talked to taggers. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 385176
5/9/2008 7:46 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
the name "loree" was on a lot of the graffiti i've seen.
i dunno, but its a building at Douglas Campus, Loree Building The State University of New Jersey
[ link to maps.rutgers.edu]
Whoa. Hope it's not a clue to the location of a future murder such as Sinsiniwa was.
Good thought. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 385176
5/9/2008 7:51 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
La Crosse - the cross Quoting: Anonymous Coward 287506
hmmm. That might mean something. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 66920
5/9/2008 8:16 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
don't suggest this might be related to jewish ritual murder or your post will be deleted, apparently
(i'm sure alleging the jesuits are behind it would be fine, however) |
| fireinside
User ID: 430613
5/9/2008 8:19 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Are we all aware that the retired police officers looking into the case are up to their eyeballs in debt? I heard they refinanced their homes and borrowed against their pensions. Don't be surprised if a lucrative book deal is in the works. I doubt any names of suspects will show up in a book. The slander laws will prevent them from giving us any real interesting stuff (if in fact they have any). Obviously, these guys thought they had something. There's no way they'd risk so much if they thought there was nothing to this investigation. At the same time, I think they have run out of options and leads, and with the prospect of facing financial ruin, we can see why they went public when they did.
The Trane connection is an extremely interesting theory. I wouldn't be surprised if a number of Trane technicians have heard about and read this blog. I would love to hear some reactions from them. Does somebody out there know something? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 66920
5/9/2008 8:21 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
in the past you could post anything on GLP, except the obscene or perhaps trying to sale your product. what a wonderful messageboard GLP used to be, one of the few places truly allowing free speech on the internet
why is it that the jewish conspiracy for world domination is always the conspiracy theory that is off-limits? i would say to the mods: "you should be ashamed of yourselves". making more members of the public aware is the only chance we have. ultimately your condemning your own descendents to oblivion.
i WOULD say that ... but the mods are most likely jews themselves. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 66920
5/9/2008 8:26 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
...
BTW, Gannon and Duarte are very familiar with tagging. In the New York case, Gannon recognized tagging that didn't belong. I'll bet they have talked to taggers. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 385176
interesting, where did you read that, have a link?
i scanned the police docs for the latest case, and didn't see that mentioned anywhere.
a question for readers:
the police detectives say they know the identity of some of the purps. how many of you would like to see them dragged out somewhere and water-boarded to get the information that would be required to locate other members of this ... cult, whatever you would call it?
not kill, not harm, just water-boarded until they talk. if you have two or more, it can actually be quite effective, because it's unlikely they would all choose to tell the same lie.
after the information is obtained, let 'em loose ... let them go to the police, who would ever believe them? former police detectives (and their deputees) water-boarded you? thats crazy!!
the information could be used to build a proper case to take them all to trial Quoting: question |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 430627
5/9/2008 8:58 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
don't suggest this might be related to jewish ritual murder or your post will be deleted, apparently
(i'm sure alleging the jesuits are behind it would be fine, however) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66920
There is a theory about that. There's a post tonight on the other smiley face killer thread
that theorizes just that. It was posted tonight. It's a possibility. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 430627
5/9/2008 9:03 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
in the past you could post anything on GLP, except the obscene or perhaps trying to sale your product. what a wonderful messageboard GLP used to be, one of the few places truly allowing free speech on the internet
why is it that the jewish conspiracy for world domination is always the conspiracy theory that is off-limits? i would say to the mods: "you should be ashamed of yourselves". making more members of the public aware is the only chance we have. ultimately your condemning your own descendents to oblivion.
i WOULD say that ... but the mods are most likely jews themselves. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66920
It's not a matter of being Jewish or not, it's a matter of being zionists or not. I would think there would be a big difference between the average Jewish person and a Zionist. |
| Visitor - Undead Molly
User ID: 425744
5/9/2008 10:22 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
What kind of ritual murder leaves no forensic evidence?
I started looking into this because of Nick Garza in Middlebury, Vermont. I'm still favoring the idea of a single killer who is either female or a very non-threatening male (petite, disabled, or elderly, perhaps). From Trane's website:
"Emil Krieger of Trane Albany works with the college on a regular basis and said Middlebury should be an example to schools who have a similar opportunity."
Hmm... Josh Szostak (21) disappeared (and was found drowned later) December 22, 2007 in Albany. I looked at the Trane Albany page and sure enough there was the above mentioned Emil Krieger in the staff/contacts list. However, a few days later his name was gone and Trane was advertising to hire a direct sales associate for that office. Did he retire? Transfer to another office? I have no way of knowing, but the timing does seem odd.
It's possible that a Trane technician could've been at the college at any time, but Middlebury has it's own HVAC/maintenance staff, so it's unlikely they'd be there a lot. But the college did complete the purchase a building in mid-January - the old Stone Mill in town. Could someone from Trane have been called in to look at the air systems of the school's new acquisition? That would've put someone in town around the time of Nick's disappearance. They specialize in renovating the AC/heating systems of old buildings to render them more efficient and green.
It should also be noted that the Old Stone Mill is directly on the water - the Otter Creek where Nick's body is believed to be. When it functioned as a mill, it was hydropowered, so the structure is not merely near the river, it's almost literally right on top of it.
That's all I have so far, but I'm still looking into a few things. This Ethan guy is really establishing the Trane thing, I'm just finding odd connection between it and Nick's vanishing. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 287506
5/10/2008 7:20 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
don't suggest this might be related to jewish ritual murder or your post will be deleted, apparently
(i'm sure alleging the jesuits are behind it would be fine, however)
There is a theory about that. There's a post tonight on the other smiley face killer thread
that theorizes just that. It was posted tonight. It's a possibility. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 430627
c mon!! Keep the jews out of this! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 287506
5/10/2008 8:35 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
"I'm still favoring the idea of a single killer who is either female or a very non-threatening male (petite, disabled, or elderly, perhaps)."
Hey undead Molly, can t be a single killer - there are similiar smiley face deaths" happened on the same day in different places. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 287506
5/10/2008 8:39 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
and im sure that Duarte & Gannon knows - they said its an criminal enterprice with a hierarchy! whats your problem Molly?they even have an eyewitnes/suspect.
you cant be thats stupid....whats wrong? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 430926
5/10/2008 11:04 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
don't suggest this might be related to jewish ritual murder or your post will be deleted, apparently
(i'm sure alleging the jesuits are behind it would be fine, however)
There is a theory about that. There's a post tonight on the other smiley face killer thread
that theorizes just that. It was posted tonight. It's a possibility.
c mon!! Keep the jews out of this! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 287506
Why? Theories have been mentioned that it may be Muslims so why not one with jews? There's theories that it could be certain other churches such as Jesuits so why not jews? Why aren't you defending the other religions that have been mentioned? At this point it's as good a theory as any! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 287506
5/10/2008 11:09 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
im not a jew, dont get this thread trashed by jews, jews, jews -
blame it on the jews and so on... c mon
dont make religion an issue here!! shills always does that. i fucking know!
im talking about a cult - who the fuck talked about anything else here?
get your shit together and stay sharp. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 287506
5/10/2008 11:26 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
lol the jesuits, yeah....
how catholic is La crosse? by the way...
just kidding...
stay sharp and let us leave religion out of this! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 423179
5/10/2008 11:47 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
lol the jesuits, yeah....
how catholic is La crosse? by the way...
just kidding...
stay sharp and let us leave religion out of this! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 287506
You don't make any sense. Cults are religions. And their are cults in many of the major religions. All possibilities should be looked at. |
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