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The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane?

 
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JUST SOME (NOT ALL) OF THE SFK /ALCHEMY COINCIDENCES

coincidence 1. JOSHUA GUIMOND IS STILL MISSING AS IS JACOB WETTERLING

coincidence 1 CONTINUED
1989
a witness involved in a pedophile ring gave a statement to a bond agent working on the jacob wetterling case that jacob was a favourite at st johns abby and spoke of rituals.
1991
two years after jacob wetterling went missing the body of a headless armless footless boy matching jacobs age was found dead/drowned in the missisippi river in minneapolis, he had been embalmed. (see zozimus alchemy rituals and vernon seitz)


coincidence 2
IN 1999 the leader of st johns made a speech using as allegory of many men drowning in the missisippi river to describe the catholic churches objective with dealing wth sexual abuse of the young.



coincidence 3.
The only smiley face case ruled a homocide
is connected to st johns abby, by the formidable persistent power of two families joining forces and hiring private investigator services in th face of a total act of sabotauge disruption and conspiracy on the part of the media and st johns and other authorities .

coincidence 4.
The only time any victims have been traced "anywhere" after their disappearence is st johns abby . by the formidable persistent power of two families joining forces and hiring private investigator services in th face of a total act of sabotauge disruption and conspiracy on the part of the media and st johns and other authorities .




coincidence 5
The alchemy website has posts written on by monks from st johns abbey, the alchemy website has pictoral depictions of the alchemic process, this involves the drowning of young men in WATER , the young men are called "regulus" or "the little king" or just "the king" Who in alchemy must die usually by drowning 9THE WET WAY AS OPPOSED TO THE DRY of alchemy) - the king represents MAN, the male victims are all young men drowned in rivers, lakes, water .


coincidence 6
The only "clues' found by the Gannon team are "smiley faces " and some other symbol graffiti and words. the symbols within alchemy that acompany the alchemic process match the sfk symbols.
the smiley face itself looks like the symbol used to signify the useless remains of the little king, or the only thing left over.

coincidence 7
some smileys found at the place of dissoltion in water of the victims have the very symbol of the object of the alchemical drowning in water- the symbol for regulus - the little king who must die /usually by drowning- on their heads- a three pointed crown.
coincidence 8
The alchemical symbol for man or mars A "p" with a arrow at the bottom was another sfk symbool that matches alchemy exactly.

coincidence 7
The word SINSINAWA which was found as graffitit at one drowning site and pointed to the road another victim would be found near means HILL OF SNAKES- the word VATICAN means HILL OF VIPERS.

coincidence 8
The motto of st johns abbey and the motto of Alchemy are EXACTLY THE SAME- WORD FOR WORD.

coincidence 9
In alchemy the objective of the alchemical process depicted as the drowning of the young men (the "little kings") in water is to REMOVE the "stone" from the Prima materia which in alchemy is said to within MAN -(symbolised as the little king or king).

coincidence 9.

The only thing found to be missing from the sfk victims are religious symbols which have the depiction of a cross on them.
In alchemy the symbol FOR the STONE is the cross
The objective of the alchemic drowning of the REGULUS (little king THE man in other words, is to SEPERATE THE STONE FROM THE PRIMA MATERIA which according to alchemy is thought to be FOUND DEEP WITHIN MAN.


Coincidence 10
"The Little king must die "'usualy"" by drowning."
Not all th sfk victims have died by drowning, at least one
was eloctrocuted and others are STILL MISSING.


Coincidence 11
The name Jacob wetterling
can mean
the sole of the foot of the wet cross kings.

jacob = sole of the foot
wet = wet
T = alchemical cross
erling = little king
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coincidence11
a proffesor at st Johns university close to the case of Jacob Wetterling , When talking about the Joshua Guimond case has since said that the suspect in the wetterling case reminded them of a man who works at st johns, also many students verified the similarity.
ALso that prffessor stated he believes the Jacob Wetterling case and the Joshua Guimond case and other are linked.
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guess where those symbols come from

you know the smiley face ones
wet
cross christian
etcetc?

only the man of the same order of monks as st johns monks!!!
ORDER OF ST BENEDICT OF ALLTHINGS THE ORDER THAT THE MONKS OF ST JOHNS ABBEY COLLEGVILLE BELONG TOO

HOW STRANGE!

Title:Basilius Valentinus friar of the Order of St. Benedict his last will


Here is the index:

Title:Basilius Valentinus friar of the Order of St. Benedict his last will
and testament Which he himself, being alone, hid under a table of marble
behinde the high-altar of the cathedral church, in the imperial city of Erford:
leaving it there to be found of him, whom Gods providence should make
worthy of it. Wherein he sufficiently declareth the wayes he wrought to
obtain the philosophers stone: whereby not onely the leprous bodies of
the impure, and inferior metals are reduced unto the pure and perfect
body of gold and silver, but also all manner of diseases whatsoever are
cured in the bodies of unhealthful men, and kept thereby in perfect health
unto the prolonging of their lives.
Author:Basilius Valentinus.
Imprint:
London : [s.n.],
Date: 1657
Bib Name / Number: Wing (2nd ed., 1994) / B1015
Pages: [24], 175, [9+], 39, [3], 25, [3], 21, [3], 9, [3], 23, [1] p.
Notes: The last will is in five parts and there are other parts. Each part
of the will, and two of the other parts, has separate dated title pages
(dated MDCLVI. [1656]). Register is continuous.
Imperfect as filmed; recto of leaf B and verso of leaf B2, and pages
immediately following page 175 not filmed.
Reproduction of the original in the King's College Library, Cambridge University.
Copy from: King's College (University of Cambridge) Library
UMI Collection / reel number: Wing / 1841:20
Subject: Alchemy -- Early works to 1800



[link to www.alchemywebsite.com]
JUST DO A FIND WORD SEARCH OF Benedict AND YOULL FIND IT QUICKLY ENOUGH!
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Darin sent me the following information about Saint John's Catholic-Sunnyhill Cemetery:

"The photo of the Smiley Face water tower is north of the cemetery across I-80, which is the only interstate that connects east to west. Adair is about an hour west of Des Moines. It is mostly an Irish Catholic Cemetery, as you can see from the wider shots. There has been some floral theft there, but nothing out of the ordinary. My grandfather James Griffin was in WWII and stormed the beaches of Normandy."

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THE HIDDEN SMILE IN THE 0

THE 0 WITH THE SMILE BEING THE SYMBOL FOR THE USELLESS REMAINS (Caput mortuum) OF THE LITTLE WET CROSS KING

Clues left at Duluth drownings

Ken Christiansen, 19, died in Duluth's Chester Creek on Friday, April 13, 2001. Christiansen died on Good Friday, the day of rememberance of Jesus dying on the cross. There is a blue cross and the phrase, "Jesus saves" next to the smiley face.

There is a smiley face inside the letter "o" in the phrase, "You can't see what you're not looking for."
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THE SECRET
HIDDEN INNER SMILE OF ALCHEMY

thousands of years, we know the secret of the Inner Smile is hidden ... Inner Smile was the first step in seven highly secret “inner alchemy
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AN INSIGHT INTO WHAT IS HAPPENING DURING THE SFKILLERS' DROWNING RITUALS

The below illustrates the drownings in wataer from an practical alchemical recipe and the REASON the caput mortuum signs (smiley faces) are left at the scenes of the sfk drowning rituals.Also shows how alchemy rituals relate to the moon phases seen in the cases and the general astroligical importance in the cases.

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******** What ever Salt is left in the funnel is insoluble in water, and is referred to in Spagery as the Caput Mortuum, the Death’s Head. ********


Discard this truly dead matter. Place this dish where it will get some sun-and be otherwise undisturbed-and let it evaporate. Subtle heat may be applied to speed the process. As the water evaporates, the purified Salt body will appear. This is the Coagulation phase, when the water gives up it’s life for the Salt. This salt will be white, and should be ground once more in the mortar so that it is fine, if it is not fine already.

9. This final step is the Conjunctio phase, where the refined and purified Sulphur, Mercury, and Salt of the plant are recombined…reborn-and re-incarnated. Take up the tincture, and slowly dissolve the Salt into it, until they are once again One body. This is a holy moment, creating a holy thing, and should be treated as such.

10. The Elixir should be stored in a sealed, glass container, marked with it’s source plant and planetary/elementary/astrological symbol, and treated with reverence.
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insight into the mindset of those on the quest to extract the stone



Spiritual Alchemy – Translated Piers A. Vaughan © May 2005

This goal is a strange substance, which the Chemistry of men ignores, which they have never analyzed, and which they will perhaps ignore forever. It is a substance which university theses do not describe, and whose very name makes the profane smile. This substance is the “ Chrysoprase”t Philosophers Stone. ,e h To obtain these fine crystals, of the color of ruby, to which the shadows instantly reflect back their mysterious luminescence, the artisan of the Great Work will have met strange companions along the way: such as the Archons who stand watch over the successive thresholds of the intermediary worlds, the better to bar the way to the seeker, innumerable and symbolic personalities4: the Crow and the Swan, the Lion and the Dragon, the King and the Queen, etc., each of which poses their particular enigma for him to solve! It is only after having understood the secret meaning these that the pilgrim will finally see rise, shining in the heart of the metallic shadows, the Star of Compostella, which announces the end of the golden periplus5. Yet, divorced from any rational basis, and without any possibility for industrial application, the procedure employed nevertheless constitutes a real spiritual enrichment for the Hermeticist, since Life will eventually deliver one of its greatest secrets to him. Now transmuted by this second Revelation, the Initiate finally becomes the Adept, and, in the plane of his inner spiritual alone, with the Arcana finally conquered, he can finally become transformed, to become and remain forever: the Illuminated One. As the mysterious Stone engenders and multiplies itself in continuous mathematical progression; the Illuminated One, in his turn, transmits his own spiritual light to those who, intelligent and docile prima materia, will themselves accept the need to die as lead in order to be btreon s o … eer r a gl tb d


4 5

From the Latin persona: mask, appearance.

The pilgrimage of St. Iago of Compostella, is one of those enigmatic myths of the quest of the Great Work. Pilgrims wear a scallop shell as an emblem, also called mérelle (cnti ar s t n o t s PV). And in the a’f d t nli frh – n a ao i middle of the matras, as the beginning of The Work, upon the finally decomposed prima materia, a crystalline silver star must appear and float upon the surface – fsi i t nhth O e t io t r h pt aitn c i t t pr o s nh i t a … r d ao a e ar eg h




Spiritual Alchemy – Translated Piers A. Vaughan © May 2005

Pelican Phoenix

Priest Prima material Projection Rain Rébis

Recipient Rectification Rectification (or alcohol) Red Refining

refinement. Closed curcubite containing two hollow handles connected to the top of the abdomen. Also called circulatory by reason of its function. S m o o t r cl i T eWok T eP on ’ egi t P i spi l y bl fh e o rn h ed o r. h hei s g s h h ooh a x el c Egg. The Phoenix is also Sulfur and Mercury of the Wise, united and conjoined in the last term of The Work. Marrying a man and a woman, or a king and queen, it symbolizes the Salt Principle. First matter of the Hermetic Work. Generally pyrites of fire, or lead (galena). Action of submitting a mineral in fusion to the action of a detergent or transmuting powder. Symbol of the color white in The Work, or albification. It is also the image of condensation, in the course of its realization. Result of the amalgamation of Gold of the Wise and Mercury of the Wise, double matter, both wet and dry, having received form Nature and Art a double occult property which is exactly equilibrated. Here designates a glass balloon. Final distillation to obtain an extremely pure metallic spirit. Often created over a very strong fire. Consists of separating the water contained in the body (or phlegm) by evaporation or distillation. Final stage of the Great Work. Also symbolizes Fire. Operations by which all that is foreign to a metal is separated from it. It is particularly practiced on gold and silver. What remains at the bottom of a vase after distillation. Synonymous with feces, grave dust, terre-damnée, deaths head.

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COINCIDENCE 14

Goin' where the wind don't blow so strange..."
The Annotated "He's Gone"
An installment in The Annotated Grateful Dead Lyrics.
By David Dodd
"He's Gone"
Words by Robert Hunter; music by Jerry Garcia
Copyright Ice Nine Publishing; used by permission

Rat in a drain ditch
Caught on a limb
You know better but
I know him
Like I told you
What I said
Steal your face
right off you head

Now he's Gone
Lord he's gone
Like a steam locomotive
rolling down the track
He's gone
He's gone
and nothing's gonna bring him back
He's gone

Nine mile skid
on a ten mile ride
Hot as a pistol
but cool inside
Cat on a tin roof
Dogs in a pile
Nothing left to do but
smile, smile, smile

Now he's gone
Lord he's gone
Like a steam locomotive
rolling down the track
He's gone
He's gone
and nothing's gonna bring him back
He's gone

Going where the wind don't blow so strange
Maybe on some high cold mountain range
Lost one round but the price wasn't anything
Knife in a back and more of the same
Same old rat in a drain ditch
Out on a limb
You know better but I know him

Now he's gone
Lord he's gone
Like a steam locomotive
rolling down the track
He's gone
He's gone
and nothin's gonna bring him back
He's gone....

"He's Gone"
Hunter has posted the manuscript for the song.

Musical details:

* Key: F
* Time signature: 4/4
* Chords used: F, Fsus4/sus2, F7, B-flat, C,E-flat, A-flat, E-flatm
* Songbook availability:
o Anthology

Recorded on

* Europe '72
* Dick's Picks, vol. 1
* Dick's Pick's, vol. 5

First performance: April 17, 1972, at the Tivoli Gardens, Copenhagen, Denmark. "He's Gone" appeared in the first set, between "Jack Straw" and "Next Time You See Me."
He's gone
"He's Gone," as originally written, referred to the disappearance of Mickey Hart's father, Lenny Hart, who was acting as the band's manager, with a good deal of money. (See interview in Relix, vol. 5, #2, p. 24.) Since then, the song has become riddled with meaning, played often quite tenderly when someone close to the band dies.
steam locomotive
A reference to the disappearance of steam as a means of locomotion for trains. Take a look at Ken Rattenne's essay, The Railroad as Metaphor, for more on this.

The web site Steam Trains--Harris Mountaintop has some excellent information and images of steam locomotives.
Steal your face
This line was lifted out as the title of the ill-fated album issued under duress. Since the cover of the album featured the logo designed by Stanley Owsley with the grinning skull and lightning bolt inside the circle, that logo has since been identified primarily as the "steal your face" logo, perhaps incorrectly.

See Owsley's web site for more information on the logo and its design.
Cat on a tin roof
An old English proverbial saying, first collected in 1670 by John Ray in his English Proverbs. Originally it referred to "[like a] cat on hot bricks..." or "[like a] cat upon a hot bake stone."

American listeners will probably be reminded of the title of the Tennessee Williams (1911-1983) play, "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof," (1955) the final line of which, at least in some versions, is:

"Nothing's more determined than a cat on a tin roof--is there? Is there, baby?"

The line is spoken by the character Maggie the Cat. (Not actually a cat...)
smile smile smile
This note from a reader:

Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 11:09:46 -0500
From: Lepok@aol.com
Subject: He's Gone

Hi David!

A small fact you might want to add to the "He's Gone" page:

"Smile, smile, smile" (as in "Nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile) was a campaign slogan of William Howard Taft, the successful Republican candidate for President in 1908. Taft was known as the most jovial man in politics. Source: Fay M. Blake & H. Morton Newman, Verbis Non Factis: Words Meant to Influence Political Choice in the United States, 1800-1980, p. 60 (Metuchen, NJ: Scarecrow Pr., 1984), citing James Barber, The Pulse of Politics, p. 223.

Best wishes,

Dave Kopel

Thanks, Dave!
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COINCIDENCE 14
HES GONE
"Nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile
BY THE GRATEFUL DEAD.


gr5ateful dead fans are called "dead heads"
the dead head is the translation of THE ALCHEMICAL SYMBOL "caput mortum"
in alchemy CAPUT MORTUUM IS the alchemical SYMBOL FOR THE worthless remains left over after the death of the little king (usually by drowning). The dead head or caput mortuum looks like a smiley face, a smiley face being the only thing remining after sfk victims the drowning in water in the sfk cases 9sometimes with a three pointed crown, which again in alchemy symbolises the little king himself -REGULUS.
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COINCIDENCE 14
HES GONE
"Nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile
BY THE GRATEFUL DEAD.


gr5ateful dead fans are called "dead heads"
the dead head is the translation of THE ALCHEMICAL SYMBOL "caput mortum"
in alchemy CAPUT MORTUUM IS the alchemical SYMBOL FOR THE worthless remains left over after the death of the little king (usually by drowning).

The dead head or caput mortuum looks like a smiley face, a smiley face being the only thing remaining after the sfk victims drowning in water, in the sfk cases. (sometimes the dead head (caput mortuum or in other words "worthless remains" ARE Painted with a three pointed crown, which again in alchemy symbolises the little king himself -REGULUS.


Again
Sometimes these are painted with a cross on the caput mortuum forehead
which again like the name JACOB WETTERLING CAN READ kryptically yet quite plainly

"The worthless remains of the little cross (or christian in other words) king."
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JUST SOME (NOT ALL) OF THE SFK /ALCHEMY COINCIDENCES

coincidence 1. JOSHUA GUIMOND IS STILL MISSING AS IS JACOB WETTERLING

coincidence 1 CONTINUED
1989
a witness involved in a pedophile ring gave a statement to a bond agent working on the jacob wetterling case that jacob was a favourite at st johns abby and spoke of rituals.
1991
two years after jacob wetterling went missing the body of a headless armless footless boy matching jacobs age was found dead/drowned in the missisippi river in minneapolis, he had been embalmed. (see zozimus alchemy rituals and vernon seitz)

NEW VIDEO SFKILLERS.COM secret taping of vernon seitz!!!!!!
the barber the man of copper OF THE ZOZIMUS ALCHEMY RITUALS himself kidnapped by the gang and assualted and i believe recruited as a child

Vern Seitz talks about being molested and the Occult
[link to www.youtube.com]

ALSO IF YOU MISSED IT
UPDATES TO DARK RITUALS OF THE SFKILLERS SERIES

The jacob wetterling connection

part 3 a
[link to www.youtube.com]

part 3 b
[link to www.youtube.com]


part 3 c

[link to www.youtube.com]


ALSO
COINCIDENCE 14


HES GONE
"Nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile
BY THE GRATEFUL DEAD.


gr5ateful dead fans are called "dead heads"
the dead head is the translation of THE ALCHEMICAL SYMBOL "caput mortum"
in alchemy CAPUT MORTUUM IS the alchemical SYMBOL FOR THE worthless remains left over after the death of the little king (usually by drowning).

The dead head or caput mortuum looks like a smiley face, a smiley face being the only thing remaining after the sfk victims drowning in water, in the sfk cases. (sometimes the dead head (caput mortuum or in other words "worthless remains" ARE Painted with a three pointed crown, which again in alchemy symbolises the little king himself -REGULUS.


Again
Sometimes these are painted with a cross on the caput mortuum forehead
which again like the name JACOB WETTERLING CAN READ kryptically yet quite plainly

"The worthless remains of the little cross (or christian in other words) king."


COINCIDENCE 14 see here for all coincidences
Thread: a LIST- JUST SOME (NOT ALL) OF THE SFK /ALCHEMY COINCIDENCES
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confirmation of my thesis!!
seitz himself talks of rituals!!!!!!!


NEW VIDEO SFKILLERS.COM secret taping of vernon seitz!!!!!!
the barber the man of copper OF THE ZOZIMUS ALCHEMY RITUALS himself kidnapped by the gang and assualted and i believe recruited as a child- see new video below!!

JUST SOME (NOT ALL) OF THE SFK /ALCHEMY COINCIDENCES

coincidence 1. JOSHUA GUIMOND IS STILL MISSING AS IS JACOB WETTERLING

coincidence 1 CONTINUED
1989
a witness involved in a pedophile ring gave a statement to a bond agent working on the jacob wetterling case that jacob was a favourite at st johns abby and spoke of rituals.
1991
two years after jacob wetterling went missing the body of a headless armless footless boy matching jacobs age was found dead/drowned in the missisippi river in minneapolis, he had been embalmed. (see zozimus alchemy rituals and vernon seitz)

NEW VIDEO SFKILLERS.COM secret taping of vernon seitz!!!!!!
the barber the man of copper OF THE ZOZIMUS ALCHEMY RITUALS himself kidnapped by the gang and assualted and i believe recruited as a child

Vern Seitz talks about being molested and the Occult
[link to www.youtube.com]

ALSO IF YOU MISSED IT
UPDATES TO DARK RITUALS OF THE SFKILLERS SERIES

The jacob wetterling connection

part 3 a
[link to www.youtube.com]

part 3 b
[link to www.youtube.com]


part 3 c

[link to www.youtube.com]


ALSO
COINCIDENCE 14


HES GONE
"Nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile
BY THE GRATEFUL DEAD.


gr5ateful dead fans are called "dead heads"
the dead head is the translation of THE ALCHEMICAL SYMBOL "caput mortum"
in alchemy CAPUT MORTUUM IS the alchemical SYMBOL FOR THE worthless remains left over after the death of the little king (usually by drowning).

The dead head or caput mortuum looks like a smiley face, a smiley face being the only thing remaining after the sfk victims drowning in water, in the sfk cases. (sometimes the dead head (caput mortuum or in other words "worthless remains" ARE Painted with a three pointed crown, which again in alchemy symbolises the little king himself -REGULUS.


Again
Sometimes these are painted with a cross on the caput mortuum forehead
which again like the name JACOB WETTERLING CAN READ kryptically yet quite plainly

"The worthless remains of the little cross (or christian in other words) king."


COINCIDENCE 14 see here for all coincidences
Thread: a LIST- JUST SOME (NOT ALL) OF THE SFK /ALCHEMY COINCIDENCES
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Amazing STRONG CONNECTINS TO WETTERLING CONFORMED!!!!!



Vern Sietz discusses Jacob Wetterling and Regrets in life

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Vern Sietz knew the Wetterlings well. According to Vern, he knew them for years and was determined to find their missing son, Jacob. This is the first 2 taped conversations with Vern.
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heres DIRECT DOWNLOAD AND SAVE link if second vid where he talks about JACOB WETTERLING DOESNT LOAD AS IT DIDNT FOR ME

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Amazing STRONG CONNECTIONS TO WETTERLING CONFIRMED BY SEITZ HIMSELF!!!


VERNON SIETZ THE WHITE HAIRED BARBER MAN OF COPPER OF THE ALCHEMY EMBALMING RITUALS
THE MAN OF COPPER WITH AUTHORITY OVER THE WATERS AND THOSE IN MORTIFICATION!!
WHO OVERCAME THE "ERWIN" (jacob "erwin" wetterling)- WILD BOAR -ALCHEMY RITUALS!!



Vern Sietz discusses Jacob Wetterling and Regrets in life

[link to www.youtube.com]

Vern Sietz knew the Wetterlings well. According to Vern, he knew them for years and was determined to find their missing son, Jacob. This is the first 2 taped conversations with Vern






heres DIRECT link if second vid where he talks about JACOB DOESNT LOAD AS IT DIDNT FOR ME

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VIDEO
Eye witness to the Jacob Wetterling abduction

This interview was made with possibly the only person that claims to have witnessed the abduction. For no reason given, local and federal law enforcement have never acted on this information.

[link to www.youtube.com]


VIDEO

Brenda Bahner admits lying to police about having Jacob Wetterling at her house.

Brenda Bahner is the sister of Michael and Richard Bahner. She admitted she lied to the police when questioned after Jacob was taken. She lived 7 minutes from the abduction site where Jacob Wetterl..

[link to www.youtube.com]


VIDEO
Richard Bahner, convicted pedophile, knew Jacob Wetterling

Richard Bahner is the brother of Michael Bahner. He was convicted of molesting a child in 1995, along with his brother Michael. Michael served no time since he testified against his brother

[link to www.youtube.com]



IS THIS THE ST JOHNS WITNESS?


Wetterling Abduction Interview with convcited pedophile Michael Bahner
police have heard his confession tape also
that he was present the night jacob was taken

Michael Bahner recounts his memories the night Jacob Wetterling was abducted.

[link to www.youtube.com]

YES I THINK THE WOMAN IS THE FORMER BAIL BODSWOMAN
KFRESH IS IN HER YOU TUBE FREINDS
KFRESH POSTED THE ORGINAL JACOB WAS A FOUVOURITE AT THE ST JOHNS ABBY POST BASED UPON HER INTERVIEW WITH A PEDOPHILE WHO KNEW ABOUT THE RING AND THE PLAN OF JACOBS ABDUCTION



VERNON SIETZ SPEAKS FROM THE GRAVE

Amazing STRONG CONNECTIONS TO WETTERLING CONFIRMED BY SEITZ HIMSELF!!!

DIRECT DOWNLOAD AND SAVE link if second vid where he talks about JACOB WETTERLING DOESNT LOAD AS IT DIDNT FOR ME

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NEW VIDEOS WETTERLING CONNECTION
Kevin discusses Richard Bahner bragging about abducting Jacob Wetterling

Kevin was an inmate with Richard Bahner. According to documented conversations with Kevin, he recalls Richard Bahner bragging about taking Jacob Wetterling with his brother, Michael.
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THE SFKILLERS EAST WEST PATTERN AND HOW EAST > WEST FIGURES IN ALCHEMICAL THINKING

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The timeline of the drownings move in a consistent pattern. "East, west, east, west, east, west, north, south -- east, west, east, west, east, west, north, south. Now we start to see patterns that can't be explained."



Victims tend to vanish between Thursday 10:00 PM and Sunday 4:00 PM, during the first half of the month.
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76% of the specific disappearances investigated, occured when "there's less than half of moon illumination."
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The victims were attending college within 50 miles of I-94 between Moorehead and East Lansing. "Why is it so tight along that snake -- along I-94? It should be spread out."

"Now we can clearly say, it's definitely time to act."
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Midwest drownings occur on yearly cycles -- west to east, and east to west. East Lansing to Eau Claire, west to Minneapolis then east to Eau Claire then west again, which has repeated twice. Drownings occur near I-94.
[link to www.brian-blackwell.com]


Now from alchemy discussion sites


Consider again what alchemy means:

*Alchemy was known as the spagyric art after Greek words meaning to separate and to join together. Compare this with the primary dictum of Alchemy in Latin: SOLVE ET COAGULA Separate, and Join Together.

Below is a quote from a book called Life and Teaching of the Masters of the Far East Volume 1.

"Remember that youth is Gods seed of love planted in the human form divine. Indeed youth is the divinity within man; youth is the life spiritual the life beautiful. It is only life that lives and loves the one life eternal. Age is unspiritual, mortal, ugly, unreal. Fear thoughts, pain thoughts, and grief thoughts create the ugliness called old age. Joyous thoughts, love thoughts, and ideal thoughts create the beauty called youth. Age is but a shell within which lies the gem of reality the jewel of youth.

Practice acquiring the consciousness of childhood. Visualize the divine child within. Before falling asleep suggest to your consciousness, I now realize that there is within me a joy-body ever young, ever beautiful. I have a beautiful spiritual mind, eyes, nose mouth, skin the body of the Divine Infant, which now, tonight, is perfect. Repeat this affirmation and meditate upon it quietly while falling asleep. Upon rising in the morning suggest to yourself aloud, Well dear (addressing yourself by name), there is a divine alchemist within. By the spiritual power of these affirmations during the night a transmutation takes place and the unfolding from within, the spirit has saturated this spiritual body and spiritual temple. The inner alchemist has caused dead and worn out cells to fall and the gold of new skin to appear with perpetual health and loveliness. Truly divine Love in demonstration is eternal youth. The divine alchemist is within my temple, constantly coining new and beautiful baby cells. This spirit of youth is within my temple this human form divine, and all is well." End Quote

All is well.

So, we are separated yet in one body. Isn't it interesting the there are two hemispheres in the brain? Left and right and I have even heard them referred to as east and west. Could creation be displaying to us a spiritual truth in the earth?

I have some thoughts about east and west and what they symbolize, eastern hemisphere representing the divine mystical and spiritual emphasis in the brain (or world) and the western hemisphere representing logic, rational, carnal thinking emphasis in the brain (world). I know that these two portions of the brain also represent duality especially as the left-brain (Eve) functions without and independent of the spirit (Adam). I believe these two hemispheres currently function separately but will ultimately return as one (union). When they asked Jesus when His kingdom would come (when he would return) he said as lightning flashes from the east to the west so will the coming of the son of man be. Lightning symbolizes the power of God coming to the earth. Notice that the lightning has to come from the EAST (the spirit!) to the west - the soul.

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ALSO FROM ANOTHER SITE DISCUSSING ALCHEMy

The alchemical meditations activate progressively more subtle energetic fields that allow the adept to communicate instantly across vast distances. Take for example the pattern of the Five Elements/Phases. The five phase intelligences within the human body can be trained to resonate with the five great spirits (North, South, East, West, and Center) within the Earth, which in turn can talk to the vast intelligences of the five phases within Heaven (sun, moon, planets, or stars). All three levels of intelligence - man, earth, and heaven - are "of the same blood", i.e. are born and function in the same qi field of Nature. Once you learn to listen to one pattern within the body, it is only a matter of training to "listen" to the same pattern in other parts of the qi field, even if it is physically far away. Qi patterns are not limited by physical time/space

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The below excerpt is Key to my thesis on whY they may be drwoning all these young men, i believe it may be that those doing this are trying to create a temple of sacrificeA TEMPLE OF ONE STONE TO OBTAIN THE ULTIMATE STONE OF ALCHEMY!!.


So, we are separated yet in one body.***
Isn't it interesting the there are two hemispheres in the brain? Left and right and I have even heard them referred to as east and west. Could creation be displaying to us a spiritual truth in the earth?
the ABOVE SPEAKS VOLUMES TO ME
we are separated yet in one body

Isn't it interesting the there are two hemispheres in the brain? Left and right and I have even heard them referred to as east and west.
HOW TO OEVERCOME THIS SEPERATION OF THE VICTIMS TO BUILD YOUR ONE TEMPLE?



I have some thoughts about east and west and what they symbolize, eastern hemisphere representing the divine mystical and spiritual emphasis in the brain (or world) and the western hemisphere representing logic, rational, carnal thinking emphasis in the brain (world). I know that these two portions of the brain also represent duality especially as the left-brain (Eve) functions without and independent of the spirit (Adam). I believe these two hemispheres currently function separately but will ultimately return as one (union).

I BELIEVE I IS POSSIBLE THE KILLERS HAVE SOME TO THEIR OWN CONCLUSION BASED UPON THE EAST WEST EAST WEST THE NORTH SOUTH PATTERN.
I THINK THEY BELIEVE IT WILL SOMEHOW JOIN ALL THEIR VICTIMS INTO
ONE BODY THE ONE TEMPLE FROM THE ONE STONE.


When they asked Jesus when His kingdom would come (when he would return) he said as lightning flashes from the east to the west so will the coming of the son of man be. Lightning symbolizes the power of God coming to the earth. Notice that the lightning has to come from the EAST (the spirit!) to the west - the soul.

In my limited understanding there are electrical pathways in the brain that don't crossover from one side of the brain to the other. We can have a logical thought that fires around in the left (west) side of the brain but it is independent of spiritual emphasis. Just as there is spiritual, imaginative thought firing in the right (east) part of the brain independent of the left. I have read that the separating veil (and isn't it interesting that it is called a "veil"?) between the hemispheres (corpus callosum) may be thinning and that soon we may see an evolutionary step in the making where thought patterns are not limited hemispherically. The east (spirit) will proceed the west (mind). The mind, Eve or the bride will submit to her groom, the spirit. So Jesus said as lightning flashes (originates) from the spiritual mind to the carnal mind so will my coming be (the son of man or us, into the kingdom or 4th dimension). It is also interesting that the Song of Solomon Chapter 5 speaks of a time when the bride will have her "veil" taken away.
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AND JACOB (ERWIN the wild boar(related IN ALCHEMY to VERNON seitz the white haired barber the man of copper of the zozimus embalming water authority alchemy rituals
-embalmed boy in river is it jacob-see previous posts for this)YES JACOB WETTERLING WAS THE SOLE OF THE FOOT OF THAT BODY
THAT TEMPLE!!
OF ONE STONE

JACOB= SOLE OF THE FOOT
WET= WET
T= ALCHEMICAL T CROSS
ERLING - LITTLE KING

JACOB WETTERLING
The sole of the foot of the little wet cross kings
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A very interesting variant of the infantile theories of procreation of the living in dung is found in the book, “De Homunculis et Monstris” (Vol. II, pp. 278 ff. of the Strassburg edition of the works of [pg 144] Paracelsus). It is there maintained that by sodomy as well as by pederasty (specifically coitus in anum and also in os is meant) the generation of a monster is possible.

As they did with alchemy in general, so charlatans also made use of the production of the homunculus.

[link to www.gutenberg.org]
SO THE PRACTICE OF PEDESTARY, ANAL SEX ,AND MALE SEMEN ,IS AN ASPECT OF ALCHEMY WRITING

INTERESTING TO NOTE.

ST johns abbey has PEDERISTS -abusers of young males..

ALSO The witness who gave the statement f his foreknowledge of the abduction of Jacob wetterling RITUALS and his being a favourite of the pederest pedhpile ring at ST JOHNS.
Then st johns linked via my research to this alchemy, anmd the boy in the river found a year later seeimingly involved in a ritual that matches all the apsects of THE ALLEGORY OF ZOZIMUS- EMBALMING, DEPCAPITIATION, DISMEBERMENT.
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and by the JACOB of the boy in the river
they said it was not THE SOLE OF THE FOOT OF jacob.

JACOB MEANS SOLE OF THE FOOT

THAT FINDNG IS DISCREDITED SEE SFK RITUALS SERIES VIDEOS JACOB CONNECTION-
FBI POLICE SAY BABY FOOTPRINTS CIRCA 1990'S ARE NOT DONE PROPERLY BY HOSPITALS AND ARE NOT ALLOWING PROPER IDENTIFICATION
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RE the new interviews of vernon seitz.

If it was Vernon sietz who spoke of jacob being a favourite at the abby (st johns) then that directly links him too the alchemy
which in turn links him to zozimus more directly and so the white haired barber of zozomus also named as the man of copper WHO IN CHARGE OF THE WATERS AND THOSE IN MORTI AND THE PROCESS OF EMBALMING AND DISMEBERMENT TO BUILD THE TEMPLE OF ONE STONE AND THE FIRST STONE -would be jacob - the soul of the foot of that body (temple) of the little cross kings.

re boy in river headless disembered thought to be jacob said not to be I THINK IS JACOB

THIS WOULD fit vernon sietz INTO ST JOHNS ASSOCAITION , VERNON who was a white haired barber and his name in alchemy VERNON COPPER PLANT overcomes ERWIN WILD BOAR.

in the interviews that are up on your tube he mentions rituals he was forced to particpate in when he was taken and adopted into the group HE CALLS THE MOB.

kfresh originally POSTED THAT INFORMATION IN HIS ORGINAL POSTING IN PRISONPLANET Trying in vain to organize an interview for diana he spoke of one man a witness a pedophile who the bond lady diana mulberry had interviwed and got a witness statement from back at the time of jacobs abduction kfresh said
THIS WITNESS SPOKE OF RITUALS AND OF JACOB BEING A FAVOURITE AT THE ABBY
kfresh is a freind on the yout ube account where these new intervoews are so i think this lady on the interviews is dianna mulberry.

So logicically the jacob was a st johns favourite
MUST HAVE BEEN VERNON SIETZ!!
There are meant to be hours and hours of tapes.
we have not heard them all!!!!!!
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it links him more directly to alchemy because the alchemy was found by following monks names posting on the al;chemy site.
and in turn it directly links st johns abbey to vernon sietz and so more strongly to jacob wetterling and vernon to the sfkillers ganng and joshua guimond
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it links him more directly to alchemy because the alchemy was found by following monks names posting on the al;chemy site.
and in turn it directly links st johns abbey to vernon sietz and so more strongly to jacob wetterling and vernon to the sfkillers ganng and joshua guimond
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and with this all in mind dont discunt the connections pointed out previously by both geographical localitiy to vernon sietz and his name meaning wich is something to do with the TEMPLE
THEY ARE BUILDING.

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VERNON SIETZ
"THEY DID RITUALS" THEY FORCED ME

WITNESS TO JACOB WETTERLING CASE,

"HE WAS A FAVOURITE AT THE ABBY"


the mutilation of the
body of an unidentified boy apparently was part of a "religious group, a
fanatical group."
"It's sick. You can't say it any better than that," he said. "I mean,
think about it."
Prints from the boy's foot ruled out the possibility that the body found
Tuesday was that of 11-year-old Jacob Wetterling, sending waves of relief
through the abducted boy's hometown of St. Joseph in central Minnesota.
Jacob disappeared last October.
A worker at a Mississippi River dam found the unclothed body Tuesday
floating near the dam, authorities said. The hands, feet and head had been
severed. McCutcheon said the feet were later found nearby.
The body was described as that of a boy between the ages of 9 and 13.
Authorities stopped treating the case as a homicide when a coroner found
embalming fluid in the body, McCutcheon said. The time and cause of death
and how long the body might have been in the river were not immediately
determined.
Investigators were consulting cult experts to determine what kinds of
groups may have performed such a ritual. "We're interested in knowing if
there was a ceremony down by the river," McCutcheon said.
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VERNON SIETZ THE BARBER
"He became very agitated, said he had nothing to do with it, was not involved, and was not going to be saying anything else."







On Saturday December 10, his friend who used to sit in his barbershop for hours on end appears to be anxious he could not locate Vern. “Where’s Vern, I stopped by the house and couldn’t get in. ” She said she had not seen him and he left quickly. He was much younger than Vern, but unkept. His name is Steve, and although he lives down the street, he has not been back since. When a mutual acquaintance ran into him, he told Vern’s neighbor that he had asked him about what he knew about Vern. He became very agitated, said he had nothing to do with it, was not involved, and was not going to be saying anything else. He has not been seen in this area since.


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i believe this steve, vernon's freind knew about the RING AND THE DANGER.
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Authorities stopped treating the case as a homicide when a coroner found
embalming fluid in the body, McCutcheon said. The time and cause of death

Investigators were consulting cult experts to determine what kinds of
groups may have performed such a ritual. "We're interested in knowing if
there was a ceremony down by the river,"


And I saw a little man, a barber, whitened with age, and he said to me, "What are you looking at?"

I answered that I wondered at the boiling water and the men who were burning but remained alive.

And he answered me saying, "The spectacle which you see is at once the entrance and the exit and the process."

I questioned him further, "What is the nature of the process?"

And he answered saying, "It is the place of the practice called the embalming. Men wishing to obtain virtue enter here and, fleeing the body, become spirits."

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jacob wetterling

THE SOLE OF THE FOOT OF (the body /temple) of the little wet cross kings

Hermeticism and Alchemy, conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be misled, to conceal the truth,
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RE the new interviews of vernon seitz.

If it was Vernon sietz who spoke of jacob being a favourite at the abby (st johns) then that directly links him too the alchemy
which in turn links him to zozimus more directly and so the white haired barber of zozomus also named as the man of copper WHO IN CHARGE OF THE WATERS AND THOSE IN MORTI AND THE PROCESS OF EMBALMING AND DISMEBERMENT TO BUILD THE TEMPLE OF ONE STONE AND THE FIRST STONE -would be jacob - the soul of the foot of that body (temple) of the little cross kings.

re boy in river headless disembered thought to be jacob said not to be I THINK IS JACOB

THIS WOULD fit vernon sietz INTO ST JOHNS ASSOCAITION , VERNON who was a white haired barber and his name in alchemy VERNON COPPER PLANT overcomes ERWIN WILD BOAR.

in the interviews that are up on your tube he mentions rituals he was forced to particpate in when he was taken and adopted into the group HE CALLS THE MOB.

kfresh originally POSTED THAT INFORMATION IN HIS ORGINAL POSTING IN PRISONPLANET Trying in vain to organize an interview for diana he spoke of one man a witness a pedophile who the bond lady diana mulberry had interviwed and got a witness statement from back at the time of jacobs abduction kfresh said
THIS WITNESS SPOKE OF RITUALS AND OF JACOB BEING A FAVOURITE AT THE ABBY
kfresh is a freind on the yout ube account where these new intervoews are so i think this lady on the interviews is dianna mulberry.

So logicically the jacob was a st johns favourite
MUST HAVE BEEN VERNON SIETZ!!
There are meant to be hours and hours of tapes.
we have not heard them all!!!!!!
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THE BACKGROUND SO FAR

its a strange story, i was looking into the sfkillers and because st johns abbey was the only place any of th victins had actually been traced to after they went missing, i persisted looking at st johns, well i found lots of stuff about a history of abuse of young men, same age as the sfkv profiles and some younger but teen ish boys - then i found something about jacob wetterling being placed at st johns in witness statement tken by a bond angent who had been wroking with police back in the late 80.s on the wetterling case and this witness a admitted pedofile himself talked of rituals involved and a ganag nd that he had foreknoweldge of the planned abduction of wetterling and said that he was a favourite at the abby abused by the gang there.

well recently only a year or so ago - i became aware of this vernon sietz character who had been found dead in his home, he was a barber in st vincent, well they found on his bed all these pictures of missing children and books on canabilsim and sex pictures of boys being tortured but this was the really big thing, los of stuff on jacob wetterling and maps local to where jacob went missing of lonely places, the type you might dump bodies etc, plus there were things tied to his basement rafters for hanging and they found childrens shoes and pieces of boys hair - turns out he had been waiting for police interview in which he was about to spill the beans and confess to his involvement back when he was a kid himself in the murder of another boy, he cliamed to have been abdcted raped and forced top kill another boy.

well im still looking at th e sfkillers i see st johns is the only real lead, then i one day just by chance happen to come across monks from st johns abbey posting on this site- (the worlds biggest seemingly) this site about of all things alchemy- well i didnt know anything abut alchemy but wow!! what did i find as the central theme in the alchemical rituals? a depiction of the drowning of what they call the little king . i found pictures of old men drowning young men in rivers-water!- then i found related to this all these alchemical symbols, each symbol matched the graffiti the smiley face and the cross and sybolism of the alchemy and the rituals of alchemy fitted axactly what was happening in these 100 sfkiller odd drownings cases.

so i then looked into the jacob wetterling case and started thiking outside the box - wondering almost toally convined by now of the relationshi p to st johns the missing sfk victims and alchemy rituals that depicted it so well- i started ttyring to think how the mind of the ganag would work with the alchemy as the rutual motive-
and seeing as their was a history of abuse at st johns and two victims were traced to the inside of the abby - joshua guimond and chris jenkins- i wondered seeing as there are years of abuse going on could this be somehow related a intergenarational ring of abusers who are replaced by new recruits as the years pass by?

lo and behold i looked at the alchemy and looked at jacob wetterlings name and saw by utter chance
his name fits the words used to describe the alchemy symbols

i found jacob wetterling
says
the sole of the foot of the wet cross kings

his name matched the sfk drownings victms he was either the sole of the foot of the victims body of the replacer of doing the drwoning as jacob can mean either sole of the foot or replacer/vicar , they the sfk victims were the little christian kings who were drowning and they ALL WITHOUT EXCEPTION had their crosses removed.

Ok UNDERSTAND it was only because i had looked at st johns THAT i found the alchemy link , IT CAME DIRECTLY FROM THE MONKS OF ST JOHNS THEMSELVES!!

Joshua Guimond although never found as yet officially IS listed as a smiley face victim but hes not in water not found to date at all.
but the family of joshua guimond and the family of chris jenkins another victims of the c os called smiley face killers joined forces and they were a force to be reckoned with- they hired private investigators and statred making a real big noise, then it happen THEY TRACED via a bloodhound BOTH THEIR SONS TO THE ABBEY ISTELF!!THAT ABBEY THAT HAD HELD ALL THOSE ABUSERES OVER THE YEARS AND STILL DOES NOW!!
Well st johns was haivng non of it they took out a court order banning joshs father from searching for his son, STPOPPED THE TAM FROM ENTERING THE INTERIOR OF THE ABBEY but then later whn they were allowed in went straight into the bowels of the place and GOT SENT OF THE TWO BOYS AGAIN.

THEN the abbey and the whole thing got even more fishy, CHRIS JENKINS BODY WAS FOUND IN THE MISSSISPII
AND even though they havent enough evidnce to convict THEY GAVE CLOSURE TO ONE FAMILY IN ALL 100 OF CASES THAT ARE N THE SFKILLERS VICIM LIST THAT FAMILY WAS THE ONE WORKING AT ST JOHNSAND BATTERING THE ABBY DOORS .
THE JENKINS FAMILY WERE TOLD THE AUTHORITIIES HAD MADE A MISTAKE AND CHRIS JENKINS DEATH WAS RULED HOMOCIDE.


Anyhow theres much more but the crux of the latest thing is vernon sietz LOOKS EXACTLY like AN AGED VERSION OF THE WETTERLING SUSPECT!!! (SEE MY VIDEOS)

AND VERNON SIETZ MUST HAVE BEEN THE WITNESS WHO TOLD THE BOND LADY THAT JACOB HAD BEEN TAKEN TO THE ABBY.FOR ON THE TAPES HE TAL;KS ABOUT JACOB A RING/MOB AND "RITUALS" there are meant to be many hours of tapes he must talk about the abby on one NOT YET AVAILABLE!!

NOPW BECAUSE OF ALL THIS AND LOOKING INTO THE VERNON SIETZ STORY AND PIECING IT ALL TOGETHER WITH THE OTHER INFO ON SFK AND ST JOHNS I HAVE FOUND.

I think vernon sietz was framed as the perp
i think vernon seitz has been threatened all his life
i think vernon seitz was murdered because he knew too much

vernon sietz is the man of copper of the alchemy rituals.
he must die also it says so
it was that way aLL ALONG THEY NEVER PLANNED TO INGRATIATE HIM INTO THEIR MOB TOTOALLY
HE WAS ALWAYS A PLANNED EXPENDABLE A PATSY.

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