and im sure that Duarte & Gannon knows - they said its an criminal enterprice with a hierarchy! whats your problem Molly?they even have an eyewitnes/suspect.
you cant be thats stupid....whats wrong?
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Wow. Why so angry?
Dr. Gilbertson has talked about a single killer in many interviews in the past - he and his grad students even developed a profile. Before this case was "The Smiley Face Gang" it was "The I-94 Killer".
I know Gannon and Duarte favor multiple killers and why. But I still see room for exploring other theories. Isn't that why we're here? To explore theories?
Anonymous Coward User ID: 287506 5/10/2008 12:17 PM
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like the scientists, let us all build a bunker for the ufo invasion - thats not a widelly accepted religion, its a cult. - im not against any religion - but just let us not make this an religious matter.
get your facts straight!
Anonymous Coward User ID: 287506 5/10/2008 12:26 PM
Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane?
and im sure that Duarte & Gannon knows - they said its an criminal enterprice with a hierarchy! whats your problem Molly?they even have an eyewitnes/suspect.
you cant be thats stupid....whats wrong?
Wow. Why so angry?
Dr. Gilbertson has talked about a single killer in many interviews in the past - he and his grad students even developed a profile. Before this case was "The Smiley Face Gang" it was "The I-94 Killer".
I know Gannon and Duarte favor multiple killers and why. But I still see room for exploring other theories. Isn't that why we're here? To explore theories?
Quoting: Visitor - Undead Molly 425744
im not angry - just frustrated! Are you sure Dr gilbertson really think so?
Dr gilbertson dont know what Gannon & Duarte Knows.
I watched his take on these "smiley face killers"
yes, im sorry, thats why we are here, to explore different stories, but just use you re common sense and think foryourselves.
Im sure if this story gets solved - they will blame it on an useful idiot - thats the way it goes...
Anonymous Coward User ID: 430002 5/11/2008 6:40 PM
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BTW, Gannon and Duarte are very familiar with tagging. In the New York case, Gannon recognized tagging that didn't belong. I'll bet they have talked to taggers.
interesting, where did you read that, have a link?
i scanned the police docs for the latest case, and didn't see that mentioned anywhere.
a question for readers:
the police detectives say they know the identity of some of the purps. how many of you would like to see them dragged out somewhere and water-boarded to get the information that would be required to locate other members of this ... cult, whatever you would call it?
not kill, not harm, just water-boarded until they talk. if you have two or more, it can actually be quite effective, because it's unlikely they would all choose to tell the same lie.
after the information is obtained, let 'em loose ... let them go to the police, who would ever believe them? former police detectives (and their deputees) water-boarded you? thats crazy!!
the information could be used to build a proper case to take them all to trial
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I believe it was Kristi Piehl, the Minnesota reporter, who mentioned that. Not surprising. Any detective is going to be familiar with tagging and gang stuff in the area that they work.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 287506 5/13/2008 1:08 PM
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- no trauma for death from hypothermia
- access/expertise in refridgeration
- Denise mentioned the crossed arms & biting lower lip. Sounds like a position you'd be in if locked in a freezer for a couple of days.
It wouldn't even have to be freezing, just cold enough to knock your core temp down. That way there would be no tissue damage (ie frostbite). I wonder what affect BAC has on hypothermia.
And re: the blackwater theory.. If you are top-notch American Black-ops with mass financing and the whole world from which to choose victims to practice your elaborate killing schemes, why on earth would you target rich, successful, white American kids whose families are going to raise a stink? Doesn't make sense. My money is on your typical serial-psycho(s) with a day job, a demented grudge and a sense of creativity.
GraftedPromise U$ofA User ID: 432899 5/14/2008 9:52 AM
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from websleuths
-from the what is your theory thread
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They are spelling out Smiley face killer man with the first letters of the cities where they commit the crime and not all the victims are young males.I think they prefer young men that look like an easy target but it is not convenient for them to find a young man every time that looks like an easy victim.Either that or it is because they are a technician with trane that so many drownings were near tranes ST paul and LaCrosse factory.I also think both theories are possible or there may not just be one group of killers.someone that works as a technician could be doing some of the killings-my guess would be in the mid-west -and even more of the others are being done by some sort of gang or cult.
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#4 Today, 11:49 AM
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I also think it is possible technicians are part of a cult or gang.when cfc was banned in 1996 it created a lot of work for hvac technicians.Some contractors would have had a desperate need for people and not enough trained people to do the work.They would have hired less than desirable applicants such as people that just got out of prison or possibly even mental institutions.minnesota alone trained hundreds of prisoners to do this kind of work starting in 1996.
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I also think they may be making a smiley face on the map if the dots are connected.my suspicion would be that Indianappolis cloumbus ohio,and lansing michigan form the nose in a v shape.the center of the bottom part of the mouth could be Cinncinatti and sT cloud the top left hand side of the mouth.eau claire wisconsin part of the left eye.sorry for so many posts but at this point i am open to many possibilites.lol
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I also think it is possible that they not only are making a smiley face man if you connect the dots ,they also may be spelling something out.
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I think it would be interesting to compile a list of the universities the men attended and even, perhaps, their school nicknames.
I'll see what I can find.
acemichaels User ID: 430057 5/16/2008 1:25 PM
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Where did the OP first see/come up with this Trane theory? Where was the connection made? If in time the connection is proven, I think the OP will have some 'splaining to do...
Aenamila User ID: 434615 5/17/2008 12:16 PM
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I used to live in Clarksville TN, used to pass Trane all the time on my way to work. There is a gas station right across that I used to stop at for coffee.
Also have walked the Riverwalk many of times, no way can you fall in.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 434688 5/17/2008 2:39 PM
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Where did the OP first see/come up with this Trane theory? Where was the connection made? If in time the connection is proven, I think the OP will have some 'splaining to do...
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i only explained that about a million times all ready.i just posted on the other thread if any one is interested in photos i posted at photobucket.don't expect to hear from me much.i made coffee while the page was loading.this site sucks.i was not in any of those other cities,only this one.i don't have any explaining to do.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 435275 5/18/2008 7:16 PM
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anyone familiar to this forum knows that my cousin was abducted in early February.
His body has found and identified in a river not far from Middlebury college. Nicholas Garza [link to www.nicholasgarza.org]
I hope to know more tomorrow I hope, but....it is confirmed Nicholas Garza, mi familia el corazon has been found deceased.
He can now be in peace, and our family can lay him to rest.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 427407
Sorry, but this is total BS. Nick Garza has not yet been found. His mother is still going on TV and radio shows describing what little is known about the day he disappeared (note there is no factual confirmation he was abducted by anyone) and to keep his face/name in the press and in our thoughts. The above quoted post was dated May 5, 2008, and if you check the family's website --www.nicholasgarza.org -- as of May 16, 2008 they are still have press updates with no mention of him being found.
There was a body found in Sugar Creek that was identified as a middle-aged man (sorry, can't remember his name), missing since March 21. That person has been positively identified, not being Nicholas Garza, but another person entirely.
Guest User ID: 435293 5/18/2008 8:00 PM
Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane?
anyone familiar to this forum knows that my cousin was abducted in early February.
His body has found and identified in a river not far from Middlebury college. Nicholas Garza [link to www.nicholasgarza.org]
I hope to know more tomorrow I hope, but....it is confirmed Nicholas Garza, mi familia el corazon has been found deceased.
He can now be in peace, and our family can lay him to rest.
Sorry, but this is total BS. Nick Garza has not yet been found. His mother is still going on TV and radio shows describing what little is known about the day he disappeared (note there is no factual confirmation he was abducted by anyone) and to keep his face/name in the press and in our thoughts. The above quoted post was dated May 5, 2008, and if you check the family's website --www.nicholasgarza.org -- as of May 16, 2008 they are still have press updates with no mention of him being found.
There was a body found in Sugar Creek that was identified as a middle-aged man (sorry, can't remember his name), missing since March 21. That person has been positively identified, not being Nicholas Garza, but another person entirely.
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That's very strange that his own cousin says it was confirmed and it wasn't. Something is way off here. Even the original post in Feb. (since deleted) was strange.
What's up with that? Maybe she will enlighten us.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 435275 5/20/2008 8:17 PM
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That's very strange that his own cousin says it was confirmed and it wasn't. Something is way off here.
What is way off is that the person posting probably is not actually his cousin, just somebody looking to get sympathy or pretending to be related to get a weird thrill -- I am no psychiatrist, but mentally ill people do that on the internet all the time.
I myself am reading these posts because I find it hard to accept that in this day and age a person could just disappear off the face of the earth with no trace. I still believe and agree with what his mother was saying in some of her interviews -- somebody knows something about this and is not coming forward.
I don't necessarily think they are holding back info for malicious reasons, but more because they don't really know what they know -- meaning they heard or saw something and are not putting together it could be a clue in what happened to that young man that night.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 436652 5/21/2008 1:04 AM
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Hi, I'm new to this website as far as posting, but have read threads for a while. Very good postings and theories! I'm from Dubuque, Iowa across the bridge from East Dubuque, Illinois where Matt Kruziki was found ,first misssing ,and then found in the Mississippi drowned. I have been following this recent story on Fox News. I had a really good friend of mine that went to Sinsinawa Ave in East Dubuque, Il for a wedding celebration back in the 80's, his name was Kris Knautz, he was 6 foot ,strong, very popular, and that night came from Galena. Illinois(it' only a 20 minute drive, we all did it back then.) He came up missing and for months i remember they dredge the river looking for him, he was eventualy found at Catfish Creek suck in a bunch of branches with a blow to the head and his money still in his wallet, they ruled it foul play but never found out what happen to him! Back then, and even years later(now) things don't happen in East Dubuque like murder. I'm a 40 year old female and i had my share of crossing the bridge for a 10 minute drive for a night of parting! I don't know what happened to Kris years ago, but America Most Wanted and Current Affair came to investigate it, they felt he was lured to the river by a women and hit over the head by a male(remember Kris was a very big guy) Why was his wallet in in pocket, it wasn't a robbery? Never solved!!!!!!!!!! After what happened to Kris Kruziki( it was all over the news here) I feel for his family and since his dad is a retired FBI (i think) i hope they can figure out what is going on with our smart, sucessful, handsome young men, i feel this is not men 'just drinking a falling into the river, it seems after reading about all these men, it's more sinister! I HOPE THIS IS SOLVED, FOR THE FAMILES AND FRIENDS OF ALL THESE DROWNINGS! Thers's no way it is ALL accidental! GOOD LUCK, K
Anonymous Coward User ID: 436652 5/21/2008 1:23 AM
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i still think it somethin g to do with the water towers.
or there's a list out there,
anyone ever look to see if all these missing people were part of a group or a book club or all had the same hospital?
maybe these guys got a experimental vaccine or some thing,
and they were killed because of it?
there has to be list, maybe it's not the person, but the place,
they say there found in rivers, maybe there's a book outhere,
that the "killers" use to motivate them to kill in this way?
last idea, has anyone searched the schools or frat houses,
for "smilly faces" painted on say a floor or wall?
most collages have big basements and maintenance hall way under the schools.
really should search these places,
there are groups that explore these places'
they have clubs that explore sewers and old building,
check the urban explore sites.
is there a site with all the info on it from as many
or missing as possable?
please post any links please.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 368943 5/21/2008 1:55 AM
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