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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 385176
5/25/2008 3:35 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
[ link to www.rockstargames.com]
interesting game. mentioned on c2c. if you look at the stills, there are pictures of the "smiley" gang in the game.
OMG, that is some fucked up stuff. Is this what video games are like??? I've never seen stuff like that.
The "rust belt", "manhunt", and smiley faces. WTF. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 439155
5/25/2008 11:05 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
I have considered a blog Molly,but that takes time.my priority at this point is to keep investigating any possible links |
| mercury2
User ID: 339565
5/25/2008 1:37 PM
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sorry for these repeat posts. I am not getting how to use this site at all! lol. I am the same person from La Crosse who has been posting here .. I used the name sherri several times and then joined and made the hande blackbird , but have not been able to figure out how to sign in . Thanks for being patient with me . And as far as I know I am the only one here from La Crosse... most of my posts have been annonymous . How can I make a profile here, and then sign into it , so I show up as the same person all the time ?
Thanks . lol 
Blackbird someone else can explain the sign up system better than I can but I thought I'd put your post here on the most recent page because people will keep checking the latest page. Could someone help blackbird/sherri register please?
Edited to add:
Maybe a better idea would be to start a new thread with the subject line "Could someone please help me figure out how to register an account with this site?" That way it won't get lost and it won't get too off topic for this thread. A mod will probably help right away. And if people flame you just ignore them. GLP will help you get a thick skin if nothing else :-) |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 385176
5/25/2008 2:15 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
sorry for these repeat posts. I am not getting how to use this site at all! lol. I am the same person from La Crosse who has been posting here .. I used the name sherri several times and then joined and made the hande blackbird , but have not been able to figure out how to sign in . Thanks for being patient with me . And as far as I know I am the only one here from La Crosse... most of my posts have been annonymous . How can I make a profile here, and then sign into it , so I show up as the same person all the time ?
Thanks . lol
You sign in with your email address. |
| susano
User ID: 385176
5/25/2008 2:28 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
BTW, you guys, here is the link to the other main thread, here at GLP, on these murders:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
I made a folder called Smiley Face Murders to bookmark all of the links associated with this.
In some of these cases, unknown people were seen talking to the victims in the bar. In one case, it was three Spanish girls, in another, a couple.
I think I mentioned this in the other thread - Chris Jenkins of Minneapolis was a LaCrosse player. Several disappearances took place in LaCarosse, Wisconsin. A young man named Matt LaCrosse disappeared, last fall (body found in a river in March) in Maine. In Michigan, the word Sinsiniwa was in the graffiti. Later, a guy disappeared on Sinsiniwa Ave in Iowa. I don't know enough about the cases to have picked up other words being repeated, but I sense a word game going on. Ethan has noticed all of the indian names associated. Chris Jenkins was dressed as an indian on Halloween when he went missing. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 400555
5/25/2008 2:39 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
UW - La Crosse changed the school nickname in 1989 to Eagles.
Former UW-L school nickname: Indians |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 438268
5/25/2008 3:19 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
UW - La Crosse changed the school nickname in 1989 to Eagles.
Former UW-L school nickname: Indians Quoting: Anonymous Coward 400555
Huh. Curious. And also, didn't i read that Sinsinawa meant something to do with "where the eagles rest" or something?
When i saw that guys last name LaCrosse, met the same fate. That is some f'ed up shiz.
I wish the FBI would meet with these detectives already, make some arrests and release all the info. This is driving me crazy!!!! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 385176
5/25/2008 4:00 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
UW - La Crosse changed the school nickname in 1989 to Eagles.
Former UW-L school nickname: Indians
Huh. Curious. And also, didn't i read that Sinsinawa meant something to do with "where the eagles rest" or something?
When i saw that guys last name LaCrosse, met the same fate. That is some f'ed up shiz.
I wish the FBI would meet with these detectives already, make some arrests and release all the info. This is driving me crazy!!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 438268
"SINSINIWA CREEK runs south, through township one, range one west, and is a tributary of Fever river, in Illinois. The Sinsiniwa Mound, from which this creek derives its name, is one of those isolated, conical elevations so remarkable in this country, situated near the State line, five miles from the Mississippi. The Menomonee creek, runs between this mound and the river."
Sinsiniwa: Native American for either 'rattlesnake' or from the Sioux tribe, 'home of the young eagle'. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 438268
5/25/2008 4:50 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
One thing that has disturbed me deeply is the full police report (posted on the kstp site). It states that the house that Chris Jenkin's girlfriend lived at, and he had been sleeping at every night for the previous 6 weeks before his disappearace, had a 10" hole in one of the bedroom walls. Found the on 11/1 (wasn't there on the 30th). The roommate who's room it was in, who was also a waitress at the Lone Star Bar (think that's the name), said she came home, didn't see anyone but felt "scared" and heard the stereo and "voices" from the living room. But didn't go there. She instead called a friend and went to his house for the night, as she was so terrified. The report also states that that night, she "couldn't walk" and was having difficulty with her body movements.
Later in the report, some cops came over. Looked at the hole, took pictures of it and a "sample". That was it. No other mention of it.
Supposedly, another roommate should have been there, a guy named Nate. And so should have Chris's girlfriend Ashley, as the female roommate said Ashley left the bar before her and went straight home. But she didn't see or talk to either of them. Nate was said to be "passed out".
I can't figure out if the girl's room was on the upper level or the lower lever. If you google the address and view the house. You can see the upper level is very high.
Either way, a fucking 10" hole in the wall, straight through from the outside to the inside?????
WTF????
Scares the shit out of me... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 439488
5/25/2008 5:02 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Either way, a fucking 10" hole in the wall, straight through from the outside to the inside?????
WTF????
Scares the shit out of me... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 438268
ten inch hole could be an old smoke stack for a wood burning stove. they're eight and ten inches and go straight through the wall. |
| time to change you ID# bud
User ID: 400555
5/25/2008 5:16 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Wood burning stove or smokestack 439488????
Did you actually READ the previous posters comments?
The 10" hole was NOT THERE on the 30th and appeared on the 1st of the month.
Kinda shoots your 'smokestack/woodburning stove' theory to pieces.
439488 you are the same person who claims (on the other thread - titled 'serial killer(s)' that binge drinking is the problem.
Are you trying to derail these discussions???
You are clearly disinfo.
Why are you here 439488???? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 385176
5/25/2008 5:48 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
One thing that has disturbed me deeply is the full police report (posted on the kstp site). It states that the house that Chris Jenkin's girlfriend lived at, and he had been sleeping at every night for the previous 6 weeks before his disappearace, had a 10" hole in one of the bedroom walls. Found the on 11/1 (wasn't there on the 30th). The roommate who's room it was in, who was also a waitress at the Lone Star Bar (think that's the name), said she came home, didn't see anyone but felt "scared" and heard the stereo and "voices" from the living room. But didn't go there. She instead called a friend and went to his house for the night, as she was so terrified. The report also states that that night, she "couldn't walk" and was having difficulty with her body movements.
Later in the report, some cops came over. Looked at the hole, took pictures of it and a "sample". That was it. No other mention of it.
Supposedly, another roommate should have been there, a guy named Nate. And so should have Chris's girlfriend Ashley, as the female roommate said Ashley left the bar before her and went straight home. But she didn't see or talk to either of them. Nate was said to be "passed out".
I can't figure out if the girl's room was on the upper level or the lower lever. If you google the address and view the house. You can see the upper level is very high.
Either way, a fucking 10" hole in the wall, straight through from the outside to the inside?????
WTF????
Scares the shit out of me... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 438268
I read that, too. I was appalled by the lack of follow up questions from the cops. They just left all sorts of stuff hanging and unexplored.
I got the impression the hole was in the drywall/sheetrock, not right throught the house. They way I imagined it was as a depression, 10" in diameter. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 438268
5/25/2008 5:51 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Either way, a fucking 10" hole in the wall, straight through from the outside to the inside?????
WTF????
Scares the shit out of me...
ten inch hole could be an old smoke stack for a wood burning stove. they're eight and ten inches and go straight through the wall. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 439488
On pg 27 of the report...
"At 17:40 Investigators went to ... which is the home of [Ashley]Rice and her roommates. When officers got there, all of the residents and some of the parents were present. They were getting ready to go to a U of M Gopher football game and were expecting a cab. Officers were shown an indentation in the sheet rock in one of the bedrooms. No one had an explanation for this defect in the wall which was round and approximately ten inches in diameter. Everyone agreed that it happened sometime in the morning of 11/1/2002. Investigators left with the intent to return at a later time for interviews."
"Investigators went to the room on the upper level of the duplex. The hole in the wall was photographed by Officer Egge on a Fuji disposable 35 mm camera provided by the B of I. Sgt. Jackson collected a sample of the broken sheet rock wall." (This info is on pg. 28 of the report)
Also, aren't wood stoves usually always on the first floor?
Can't find the part now about her having trouble walking. Sorry |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 385176
5/25/2008 5:51 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Wood burning stove or smokestack 439488????
Did you actually READ the previous posters comments?
The 10" hole was NOT THERE on the 30th and appeared on the 1st of the month.
Kinda shoots your 'smokestack/woodburning stove' theory to pieces.
439488 you are the same person who claims (on the other thread - titled 'serial killer(s)' that binge drinking is the problem.
Are you trying to derail these discussions???
You are clearly disinfo.
Why are you here 439488???? Quoting: time to change you ID# bud 400555
hmmm. I've very suspicious of any posters trying to debunk the OBVIOUS connections between these MURDERS. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 439488
5/25/2008 5:52 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Wood burning stove or smokestack 439488????
Did you actually READ the previous posters comments?
The 10" hole was NOT THERE on the 30th and appeared on the 1st of the month.
Kinda shoots your 'smokestack/woodburning stove' theory to pieces.
439488 you are the same person who claims (on the other thread - titled 'serial killer(s)' that binge drinking is the problem.
Are you trying to derail these discussions???
You are clearly disinfo.
Why are you here 439488???? Quoting: time to change you ID# bud 400555
first, whomever owned the home could put in a stove pipe plain and simple. if you don't like ideas then why open a thread?
have you thought about this?
"The detectives requested that 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS hold back some key details of the murders such as motive and the identities of the informants. They hope that information will someday be used to file criminal charges."
[link to kstp.com]
if they do hope to someday bring charges might this not be harming rather than helping?
any ideas but yours are clearly disinfo. geez.
kids drink, guys go to the edges of rivers to piss and fall in. river waters pull/move/tug their bodies down stream or if in an area with a dam, it will tumble the body around.
don't forget this:
"In more than 40 cases, the deaths are blamed on a drunken accident--except for one."
[link to kstp.com]
drinking obviously was a problem in most cases. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 438268
5/25/2008 5:57 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
I read that, too. I was appalled by the lack of follow up questions from the cops. They just left all sorts of stuff hanging and unexplored.
I got the impression the hole was in the drywall/sheetrock, not right throught the house. They way I imagined it was as a depression, 10" in diameter.
AH. That could be. They use the word "indentation" and "hole". I guess i consider an indentation what you described and a hole a straight through deal.
Right though, lack of follow up and questioning. Didn't you think this report would have much more work put into it? I mean, spanning YEARS, and not that much work. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 439488
5/25/2008 5:57 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Either way, a fucking 10" hole in the wall, straight through from the outside to the inside?????
WTF????
Scares the shit out of me...
ten inch hole could be an old smoke stack for a wood burning stove. they're eight and ten inches and go straight through the wall.
On pg 27 of the report...
"At 17:40 Investigators went to ... which is the home of [Ashley]Rice and her roommates. When officers got there, all of the residents and some of the parents were present. They were getting ready to go to a U of M Gopher football game and were expecting a cab. Officers were shown an indentation in the sheet rock in one of the bedrooms. No one had an explanation for this defect in the wall which was round and approximately ten inches in diameter. Everyone agreed that it happened sometime in the morning of 11/1/2002. Investigators left with the intent to return at a later time for interviews."
"Investigators went to the room on the upper level of the duplex. The hole in the wall was photographed by Officer Egge on a Fuji disposable 35 mm camera provided by the B of I. Sgt. Jackson collected a sample of the broken sheet rock wall." (This info is on pg. 28 of the report)
Also, aren't wood stoves usually always on the first floor?
Can't find the part now about her having trouble walking. Sorry Quoting: Anonymous Coward 438268
in older homes, they had stove pipes that went pretty much from the middle of the home and even upstairs so as to help keep the children from freezing at night. so although the stove may be on the first floor, chimeny/stove pipe is through the house and up the roof generally. stove pipe can be placed in the side of a house too but it's usually through the roof.
an "indentation" is usually not a hole but sheetrock breaks pretty easily. if you crammed your brother's head (or anyones in case of a fight)into sheetrock it could leave an eight inch hole/indentation. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 439488
5/25/2008 6:01 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
hmmm. I've very suspicious of any posters trying to debunk the OBVIOUS connections between these MURDERS. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 385176
obviously it's not obvious to all then.
40 were found to be males who landed in the river(s) after drinking at bars or parties, their friends say so.
obviously if they're drinking a lot, then, they must piss somewhere. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 439488
5/25/2008 6:05 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Wood burning stove or smokestack 439488????
Did you actually READ the previous posters comments?
The 10" hole was NOT THERE on the 30th and appeared on the 1st of the month.
Kinda shoots your 'smokestack/woodburning stove' theory to pieces.
439488 you are the same person who claims (on the other thread - titled 'serial killer(s)' that binge drinking is the problem.
Are you trying to derail these discussions???
You are clearly disinfo.
Why are you here 439488???? Quoting: time to change you ID# bud 400555
why should i change my ID#? simply because i agree more with the police, bca, fbi investigations?
the first thing they all have in common is the binge drinking (and you can bet at parties, that is what they did). could something have been added to drinks? sure. but don't discount the need for binge drinking to stop to save lives. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 400555
5/25/2008 6:07 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
I open these threads to find a connection between 40+ unexplained deaths that the 'establishment' has laid the 'blame' on binge drinking. Their verdict is meaningless to me, as it is to many others.
I do find it peculiar that you 439488 have not posted on either of these threads until TODAY, May 25.
Are these investigations getting closer to the truth???
Why has the FBI stated that they are NOT INTERESTED in looking into these cases?
Why has the police chief of La Crosse, Wisconsin stated that there are no connections between all of these strange and unexplained cases?
A Chief of Police. Seems his investigative skills are seriously LACKING.
Your interruptions here are OBVIOUS.
Now, back to the discussion. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 439488
5/25/2008 6:09 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
go ahead and drink if ya want. just be responsible with it. don't drink to black outs.
if what's in the thread helps find whomever for any murder, good. if it harms the criminal prosecution, that would be very, very bad. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 439488
5/25/2008 6:17 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
I open these threads to find a connection between 40+ unexplained deaths that the 'establishment' has laid the 'blame' on binge drinking. Their verdict is meaningless to me, as it is to many others.
I do find it peculiar that you 439488 have not posted on either of these threads until TODAY, May 25.
Are these investigations getting closer to the truth???
Why has the FBI stated that they are NOT INTERESTED in looking into these cases?
Why has the police chief of La Crosse, Wisconsin stated that there are no connections between all of these strange and unexplained cases?
A Chief of Police. Seems his investigative skills are seriously LACKING.
Your interruptions here are OBVIOUS.
Now, back to the discussion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 400555
40 cases were found to be from alcohol as was stated on the investigative news piece on the first page. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 385176
5/25/2008 6:23 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
I read that, too. I was appalled by the lack of follow up questions from the cops. They just left all sorts of stuff hanging and unexplored.
I got the impression the hole was in the drywall/sheetrock, not right throught the house. They way I imagined it was as a depression, 10" in diameter.
AH. That could be. They use the word "indentation" and "hole". I guess i consider an indentation what you described and a hole a straight through deal.
Right though, lack of follow up and questioning. Didn't you think this report would have much more work put into it? I mean, spanning YEARS, and not that much work. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 438268
They never asked her why she was afraid to be home. Isn't that just flat out weird? Coomon curiosity would lead to follwo up questions. Many of the witness reports were loaded with information not followed up on.
I don't think the drywall damage means much without more info. It could have been a basketball for all we know. I don't think Chris Jenkins was back home from the bar the night he went missing. Could someone's head have been rammed into the wall, during the daytime? Sure. Without good interviews, it remains an odd piece of information. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 385176
5/25/2008 6:28 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
I open these threads to find a connection between 40+ unexplained deaths that the 'establishment' has laid the 'blame' on binge drinking. Their verdict is meaningless to me, as it is to many others.
I do find it peculiar that you 439488 have not posted on either of these threads until TODAY, May 25.
Are these investigations getting closer to the truth???
Why has the FBI stated that they are NOT INTERESTED in looking into these cases?
Why has the police chief of La Crosse, Wisconsin stated that there are no connections between all of these strange and unexplained cases?
A Chief of Police. Seems his investigative skills are seriously LACKING.
Your interruptions here are OBVIOUS.
Now, back to the discussion.
40 cases were found to be from alcohol as was stated on the investigative news piece on the first page. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 439488
No they were not. They were catagorized as accidental deaths, without homocide investigations being done. BIG DIFFERENCE. And, no guy walks way out of his way to take a piss outside. They do it right behind the bar, by the closest bush or behind a car. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 92826
5/25/2008 6:41 PM | | Anonymous Coward
User ID: 438268
5/25/2008 6:46 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Yeah, 385176
I guess it scared me more when i thought it was a hole from the outside on the upper level. Still, no questions or anything just adds to the mystery of these cases. Where was the page of questioning, "Why were you scared? Did you hear male or female voices? Were they the voices of your roommates?" NOTHING!!
And NO SHIT about peeing! I lived on Main Str of a small Wisconsin college town for years. I would watch guys walk out the door, walk to the curb and piss, or piss on a car, or turn and piss on the bar building right there. Some would actually take the time to piss in a business doorway. No way they would walk all the way to the river in the freezing cold to piss. (Many would also puke right there too!) Since this town was not far from LaCrosse, i can imagine it's the same thing. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 92826
5/25/2008 7:09 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Sinsinawa Women's Network
Member of the United Nations
Vision Statement: The Sinsinawa Women's Network includes those who are willing to work toward a feminist vision of inclusivity and justice for all peoples and respect for all creation.
Goals: To provide educational opportunities in eco-feminist principles and feminist theology so as to rediscover and deepen the fundamental spiritual values which motivate us; to work to achieve full participation for women in the church and society by striving to eliminate sexism, racism, classism and heterosexism; to challenge and change patriarchal behavior and structures in ourselves, in our ministries and in our institutions in order to build solidarity and bondedness with all women.
Hmmmm, would these women appreciate the college hunks? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 92826
5/25/2008 7:33 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Loree; denoting the outer edge or margin of a wood or field. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 385176
5/25/2008 7:38 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 92826
??? |
| susano
User ID: 385176
5/25/2008 7:42 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Yeah, 385176
I guess it scared me more when i thought it was a hole from the outside on the upper level. Still, no questions or anything just adds to the mystery of these cases. Where was the page of questioning, "Why were you scared? Did you hear male or female voices? Were they the voices of your roommates?" NOTHING!!
And NO SHIT about peeing! I lived on Main Str of a small Wisconsin college town for years. I would watch guys walk out the door, walk to the curb and piss, or piss on a car, or turn and piss on the bar building right there. Some would actually take the time to piss in a business doorway. No way they would walk all the way to the river in the freezing cold to piss. (Many would also puke right there too!) Since this town was not far from LaCrosse, i can imagine it's the same thing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 438268
I could do WAY more thorough interviews than those cops. It makes me sick.
The pissing thing I know from having men friends and boyfriends. Especially, when they're drunk, they'll pee just about anywhere. In a bar, they will also use the bathroom. What a concept.
The debunker here seems to be working overtime. Curious, isn't it? |
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