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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 385176
5/25/2008 7:44 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Sinsinawa Women's Network
Member of the United Nations
Vision Statement: The Sinsinawa Women's Network includes those who are willing to work toward a feminist vision of inclusivity and justice for all peoples and respect for all creation.
Goals: To provide educational opportunities in eco-feminist principles and feminist theology so as to rediscover and deepen the fundamental spiritual values which motivate us; to work to achieve full participation for women in the church and society by striving to eliminate sexism, racism, classism and heterosexism; to challenge and change patriarchal behavior and structures in ourselves, in our ministries and in our institutions in order to build solidarity and bondedness with all women.
Hmmmm, would these women appreciate the college hunks? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 92826
That's interesting. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 385176
5/25/2008 7:46 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Loree; denoting the outer edge or margin of a wood or field. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 92826
Where did that word come from? I recall reading it in one of these threads. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 385176
5/25/2008 7:51 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Sinsinawa Women's Network
Member of the United Nations
Vision Statement: The Sinsinawa Women's Network includes those who are willing to work toward a feminist vision of inclusivity and justice for all peoples and respect for all creation.
Goals: To provide educational opportunities in eco-feminist principles and feminist theology so as to rediscover and deepen the fundamental spiritual values which motivate us; to work to achieve full participation for women in the church and society by striving to eliminate sexism, racism, classism and heterosexism; to challenge and change patriarchal behavior and structures in ourselves, in our ministries and in our institutions in order to build solidarity and bondedness with all women.
Hmmmm, would these women appreciate the college hunks?
That's interesting. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 385176
Looks like a bunch of lesbian nuns. Here's where they're located:
[link to www.sinsinawa.org] |
| blackbird
User ID: 439674
5/25/2008 7:52 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Thanks Mercury 2, and other person .... Since I had first come here through google, I was not going back to the forum ..which is where a person must go to sign in . That is why I couldn't sign in . lol
Police reports totally irritate me .. and I never see them as being complete, or 100% true. I don't think they should even be admissable as evidence , myself ...based on the numerous times I have seen them messed up. I have a daughter who was getting into trouble..and have had to fill out reports for the last 2 years very regularily.The officers usually do all the writing.. and you guys, I cannot tell you how many times there were flat out misquotes and incorrect information. I would not feel guilty at all to say each and every police report was not an accurate depction of the events. ( she was running away , using meth and some other drugs... and stealing at local stores with friends. ) An example would be ... I told them she did not make it to school in the morning and must have ran before school started. In the report they say she never came home from school( giving the idea she had went to school)......See what I mean ? ... and sadly , this is the NORM of police reports . ( around here anyway. )
I wouldn't consider police reports as anything other than a place for ideas, to checks and balance off of once you get info from another source. ...they just are hardly ever accurate of the true scenario. I think they should be required to record all convos with people and save them. Just my 2cents.
"God stamp eternity on my eyeballs." Leonard Ravenhill |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 438268
5/25/2008 7:54 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Loree; denoting the outer edge or margin of a wood or field.
Where did that word come from? I recall reading it in one of these threads. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 385176
I believe "loree" was spray painted by a smiley face at one of the recent sites. Albany? PA? MI? Not sure |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 92826
5/25/2008 7:58 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Loree; denoting the outer edge or margin of a wood or field.
Where did that word come from? I recall reading it in one of these threads. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 385176 |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 382575
5/25/2008 8:04 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
A plausible explanation has been offered by Mark Furhman.
These guys may have taken ecstacy; then cocaine. The combo makes your temperature rise very high.
The logical thing may seem to jump in water. But maybe the shock of cold water and the toxicity is too much.
The smiley face is a logo of ecstacy users.
Makes sense to see it painted at party scenes. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 92826
5/25/2008 8:07 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Sinsinawa Women's Network
Member of the United Nations
Vision Statement: The Sinsinawa Women's Network includes those who are willing to work toward a feminist vision of inclusivity and justice for all peoples and respect for all creation.
Goals: To provide educational opportunities in eco-feminist principles and feminist theology so as to rediscover and deepen the fundamental spiritual values which motivate us; to work to achieve full participation for women in the church and society by striving to eliminate sexism, racism, classism and heterosexism; to challenge and change patriarchal behavior and structures in ourselves, in our ministries and in our institutions in order to build solidarity and bondedness with all women.
Hmmmm, would these women appreciate the college hunks?
That's interesting.
Looks like a bunch of lesbian nuns. Here's where they're located:
[ link to www.sinsinawa.org] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 385176
Yes, women who have committed themselves to women and might possibly be threatened by the power of a young, athletic, handsome, up and coming male. Especially the ones that party.
Located in Wisconsin. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 92826
5/25/2008 8:10 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
A plausible explanation has been offered by Mark Furhman.
These guys may have taken ecstacy; then cocaine. The combo makes your temperature rise very high.
The logical thing may seem to jump in water. But maybe the shock of cold water and the toxicity is too much.
The smiley face is a logo of ecstacy users.
Makes sense to see it painted at party scenes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 382575
I've heard of the sensation of ice, water, etc. when doing X. However, the fun of it is doing it with the group. jumping into water on X only makes sense if they did it as a group, and females weren't excluded. |
| mercury2
User ID: 349479
5/25/2008 8:12 PM
 | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Hey blackbird, I'm glad you figured out how to make an account and log in, welcome to GLP. This is one of the better threads we've had here in a long time. Lots of interesting details and speculation.
What you wrote about the inaccuracy of police reports is definitely something we should all keep in mind.
 from one Minnesotan to another. I might not live there anymore but I am proud to be from there. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 438268
5/25/2008 8:19 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
from the website Hate Magazine's List of
"Satanic Cults"
The list is from 1988, but still, it shows they were in the area at that time. Perhaps not totally related to the Sinsinawa Sisters, but some could be dual members. Maybe.
(Note that it states: Only two of the magazine's 359 enemies listed below are Satanic.)
but, look at these:
Our Lady of the Woods P.O.Box 176, Blue Mounds, WI
Covenant of the Goddess PBN Our Lady, Blue Mounds, WI
Priestess PBN Our Lady, Blue Mounds, WI
Circle Network News P.O.Box 219, Mount Horeb, WI
Pagan Spirit Alliance P.O.Box 219, Mount Horeb, WI
Converging Paths P.O.Box 63, Mount Horeb, WI
New Wiccan Church of Wisconsin P.O.Box 64, Mount Horeb, WI
The Rowan Exchange P.O.Box 63, Mount Horeb, WI
Oakwood Coven P.O.Box 64, Mount Horeb, WI
And while i agree that taking X and coke could make you feel hot. Being outside in the winter in WI would be well enough to cool you off (below 0 most days in Jan). Mark Furman's explanation: NO!!! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 439488
5/25/2008 8:23 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
A plausible explanation has been offered by Mark Furhman.
These guys may have taken ecstacy; then cocaine. The combo makes your temperature rise very high.
The logical thing may seem to jump in water. But maybe the shock of cold water and the toxicity is too much.
The smiley face is a logo of ecstacy users.
Makes sense to see it painted at party scenes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 382575
makes good sense. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 92826
5/25/2008 8:33 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
A plausible explanation has been offered by Mark Furhman.
These guys may have taken ecstacy; then cocaine. The combo makes your temperature rise very high.
The logical thing may seem to jump in water. But maybe the shock of cold water and the toxicity is too much.
The smiley face is a logo of ecstacy users.
Makes sense to see it painted at party scenes.
makes good sense. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 439488
It makes sense that only males would do this? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 92826
5/25/2008 8:35 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
from the website Hate Magazine's List of
"Satanic Cults"
The list is from 1988, but still, it shows they were in the area at that time. Perhaps not totally related to the Sinsinawa Sisters, but some could be dual members. Maybe.
(Note that it states: Only two of the magazine's 359 enemies listed below are Satanic.)
but, look at these:
Our Lady of the Woods P.O.Box 176, Blue Mounds, WI
Covenant of the Goddess PBN Our Lady, Blue Mounds, WI
Priestess PBN Our Lady, Blue Mounds, WI
Circle Network News P.O.Box 219, Mount Horeb, WI
Pagan Spirit Alliance P.O.Box 219, Mount Horeb, WI
Converging Paths P.O.Box 63, Mount Horeb, WI
New Wiccan Church of Wisconsin P.O.Box 64, Mount Horeb, WI
The Rowan Exchange P.O.Box 63, Mount Horeb, WI
Oakwood Coven P.O.Box 64, Mount Horeb, WI
And while i agree that taking X and coke could make you feel hot. Being outside in the winter in WI would be well enough to cool you off (below 0 most days in Jan). Mark Furman's explanation: NO!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 438268 |
| blackbird
User ID: 439674
5/25/2008 8:39 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Thanks Mercury . :D
About the smiley faces being a sign of the drug ...the smiley faces were not always at party scenes though ... weren't they also right by the river?
And , wouldn't the friends have said they were partying like that to the police ? Doesn't make sense that 40 young guys would all use those drugs and jump into water , without the fact they used the drugs coming out through friends .
"God stamp eternity on my eyeballs." Leonard Ravenhill |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 438268
5/25/2008 8:44 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Why would you stop to tag a smiley face before you jumped in the river to cool off?
These boys were alone.
No women died in this manner.
blog.stephenleary.com/
2008/04/smiley-face-murders.
html
Has the story with the Furhman quotes. I find the Mirror update interesting. Also, how angry and pissy is Furhman? No need for that and very, very curious. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 400555
5/25/2008 9:00 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
NO it does NOT 'make good sense.'
Ecstacy users are just about 1/2 female.
It is the 'hug drug' and I know many females use it.
Go to a co-ed party, everyone indulges, gets happy and shares hugs.
No females ended up the river.
Sorry Furhman. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 92826
5/25/2008 10:20 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Some of the faces look like pig faces.
Men are pigs? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 440085
5/26/2008 11:08 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Lore; denoting the outer edge or margin of a wood or field.
Where did that word come from? I recall reading it in one of these threads.
I believe "loree" was spray painted by a smiley face at one of the recent sites. Albany? PA? MI? Not sure Quoting: Anonymous Coward 438268
Using the word "LOREE" is a big clue....What country does this word "lore" originate from?
WHO uses that word in describing the outer edge of the woods or fields?
I have never heard the word used by kids or adults to describe the edge of woods or fields.....so who would have that word in their vocalibrity?. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 440085
5/26/2008 11:16 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
from the website Hate Magazine's List of
"Satanic Cults"
The list is from 1988, but still, it shows they were in the area at that time. Perhaps not totally related to the Sinsinawa Sisters, but some could be dual members. Maybe.
(Note that it states: Only two of the magazine's 359 enemies listed below are Satanic.)
but, look at these:
Our Lady of the Woods P.O.Box 176, Blue Mounds, WI
Covenant of the Goddess PBN Our Lady, Blue Mounds, WI
Priestess PBN Our Lady, Blue Mounds, WI
Circle Network News P.O.Box 219, Mount Horeb, WI
Pagan Spirit Alliance P.O.Box 219, Mount Horeb, WI
Converging Paths P.O.Box 63, Mount Horeb, WI
New Wiccan Church of Wisconsin P.O.Box 64, Mount Horeb, WI
The Rowan Exchange P.O.Box 63, Mount Horeb, WI
Oakwood Coven P.O.Box 64, Mount Horeb, WI
And while i agree that taking X and coke could make you feel hot.
Being outside in the winter in WI would be well enough to cool you off (below 0 most days in Jan).
Mark Furman's explanation: NO!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 438268
I agree....NO-
IS Mark saying that out of 40-50 mens deaths, all the Coroners DID NOT do a DRUG test on any on these guys? If they didn't, why? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 440085
5/26/2008 11:31 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
And while i agree that taking X and coke could make you feel hot.
Being outside in the winter in WI would be well enough to cool you off (below 0 most days in Jan).
Mark Furman's explanation: NO!!!
12 victims were from Wisconsin. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 92826
M's explanation is WRONG!
IF taking X and coke was the "reason" these 40+ men died in the water...
WHY is there NO deaths in the warm months of May or June, by men or women?
...wouldn't those warmer months cause a person to think of going swimming, IF hot and on DRUGS?...yet no deaths.
Why stop drinking and doing drugs in the summer months...they don't stop, BUT the MURDERER does stop..why? |
| mysterylover
User ID: 440085
5/26/2008 12:00 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
I GOOGLED the word "loree". After reading the word was found at a murder scene.
To my surprise, there are pages of ways this word is used.
From England to Canada the word is used in paintings, College buildings, musical instruments, names of persons, places and things and many, many more ways. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 385176
5/26/2008 1:53 PM | | other person :)
User ID: 385176
5/26/2008 2:26 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Thanks Mercury 2, and other person .... Since I had first come here through google, I was not going back to the forum ..which is where a person must go to sign in . That is why I couldn't sign in . lol
Police reports totally irritate me .. and I never see them as being complete, or 100% true. I don't think they should even be admissable as evidence , myself ...based on the numerous times I have seen them messed up. I have a daughter who was getting into trouble..and have had to fill out reports for the last 2 years very regularily.The officers usually do all the writing.. and you guys, I cannot tell you how many times there were flat out misquotes and incorrect information. I would not feel guilty at all to say each and every police report was not an accurate depction of the events. ( she was running away , using meth and some other drugs... and stealing at local stores with friends. ) An example would be ... I told them she did not make it to school in the morning and must have ran before school started. In the report they say she never came home from school( giving the idea she had went to school)......See what I mean ? ... and sadly , this is the NORM of police reports . ( around here anyway. )
I wouldn't consider police reports as anything other than a place for ideas, to checks and balance off of once you get info from another source. ...they just are hardly ever accurate of the true scenario. I think they should be required to record all convos with people and save them. Just my 2cents. Quoting: blackbird
Welcome back, Blackbird. I'm "susano" but hardly ever log in (because the log in times out and you have re-log in).
Cops are not the smartest bunch. People like Gannon and Duarte are the cream of the crop, and the exception. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 385176
5/26/2008 2:27 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
from the website Hate Magazine's List of
"Satanic Cults"
The list is from 1988, but still, it shows they were in the area at that time. Perhaps not totally related to the Sinsinawa Sisters, but some could be dual members. Maybe.
(Note that it states: Only two of the magazine's 359 enemies listed below are Satanic.)
but, look at these:
Our Lady of the Woods P.O.Box 176, Blue Mounds, WI
Covenant of the Goddess PBN Our Lady, Blue Mounds, WI
Priestess PBN Our Lady, Blue Mounds, WI
Circle Network News P.O.Box 219, Mount Horeb, WI
Pagan Spirit Alliance P.O.Box 219, Mount Horeb, WI
Converging Paths P.O.Box 63, Mount Horeb, WI
New Wiccan Church of Wisconsin P.O.Box 64, Mount Horeb, WI
The Rowan Exchange P.O.Box 63, Mount Horeb, WI
Oakwood Coven P.O.Box 64, Mount Horeb, WI
And while i agree that taking X and coke could make you feel hot. Being outside in the winter in WI would be well enough to cool you off (below 0 most days in Jan). Mark Furman's explanation: NO!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 438268
Whoa, what is this list?! Where is the link? Not sure I understand what I'm reading! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 385176
5/26/2008 2:32 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Mark Furhaman is full of shit. My impression of him is that he is good detective, so the question arises, why is he saying this? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 438268
5/26/2008 2:34 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
from the website Hate Magazine's List of
"Satanic Cults"
The list is from 1988
Whoa, what is this list?! Where is the link? Not sure I understand what I'm reading! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 385176
Just what i said.
If i link it, i will have to reset my ip addy again.
Just google
" Hate Magazine's List of
"Satanic Cults" "
it's the first link |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 438268
5/26/2008 2:50 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Whoa, what is this list?! Where is the link? Not sure I understand what I'm reading! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 385176
You are reading known (at least in 1988) a list of occult/wiccan groups directly located by the Sinsinawa Sisters/Sinsinawa Mounds in Wisconsin.
Wisconsin is a strange place. You have large enough cities where strip malls and shit are the norm. You also have extremely rural places that not many people go. Farmers are prevalent. Wisconsin also has many people who like to be left alone. And most people there tend to mind their own business. There are many "farms" run by cooperative peoples. Some are just organic farms. Some are more covert in nature/rituals.
There was a time, when my grandma was around, that everyone knew everyone, and their lineage. Those times have changed. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 429194
5/26/2008 3:05 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
I had a strong feeling that women were the perpetrators in this. I'm thinking that the victims had been involved in rape, and were targeted by these women. Rape on college campuses is far more common than most people know, and big-man-on-campus athletes are usually the ones responsible.
It's a little strange that such an obvious clue would be left behind. The perps certainly seem to know what they're doing, given that they've never been caught. Hmmm. |
| mercury2
User ID: 234731
5/26/2008 5:20 PM
| | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
I had a strong feeling that women were the perpetrators in this. I'm thinking that the victims had been involved in rape, and were targeted by these women. Rape on college campuses is far more common than most people know, and big-man-on-campus athletes are usually the ones responsible.
It's a little strange that such an obvious clue would be left behind. The perps certainly seem to know what they're doing, given that they've never been caught. Hmmm. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 429194
Right, the fellows who were drowned were all rapists. There's a new theory for you. Better write to the detectives with that one right away. |
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