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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 481686
3/13/2009 8:59 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
They now have surveillance of a suspicious vehicle following a stolen DEC vehicle. So maybe it isn't TRANE after all.
They seem to know exactly where to park and dump the body to be out of the view of any cameras that are in the area.
How could anyone know this? Maybe they work as security guards in the area. Because they got into a licked parking area. Quoting: KillerMermaid
Checking for cameras to avoid ahead of time would not be hard to do. To me it just indicates that there is some organization to it and not just a lone crazed killer. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 634417
3/14/2009 12:48 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
I think it's chicks that are in a gang and have something against goodlooking, smart college guys! They lace the guys drink, then lure them out of the bar. Brian Shaffer was seen on camera last talking to a couple of women by the escaltor. Matt found in East Dubuque/Dubuque Iowa was last seen at a strip bar! think about it strippers do a lot of traveling town to town, state to state and many have pimps or guys that go with them. When these bodies are found in the water the autospy usually can not tell alcohol level or any drugs because it has left the system same with any foul play! If it was a sexual assault, there would be evidence of that because of torn skin also tie marks on hands or feet would probably still be there! So my question is why are these people doing this, for what motive? Is it some kind of sadist ritual or fetish or some women that are holding a grudge againist these popular guys? Any other theories? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
3/14/2009 5:58 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
I think it's chicks that are in a gang and have something against goodlooking, smart college guys! They lace the guys drink, then lure them out of the bar. Brian Shaffer was seen on camera last talking to a couple of women by the escaltor. Matt found in East Dubuque/Dubuque Iowa was last seen at a strip bar! think about it strippers do a lot of traveling town to town, state to state and many have pimps or guys that go with them. When these bodies are found in the water the autospy usually can not tell alcohol level or any drugs because it has left the system same with any foul play! If it was a sexual assault, there would be evidence of that because of torn skin also tie marks on hands or feet would probably still be there! So my question is why are these people doing this, for what motive? Is it some kind of sadist ritual or fetish or some women that are holding a grudge againist these popular guys? Any other theories? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 634417
Yes there is a lot of good circumstantial evidence that women are involved.I believe in at least one case they were used to make sure the victim got into a taxi,except it was not a taxi.The taxi or driver a man claimed to call was never located.I believe the victim was found on myspace and the killers are acting.They make themselves someone else the victim can relate to so they can become friends.The man became another soldier and the girls acted like a couple of nice sweet girls.No one can name the so called person who called the cab because neither the man nor the cab existed.The victim having drank too much did not question whether he was getting into the cab as all it took was the power of sugestion from the girls.They probably even offered to go with him to make sure he got home safe.
It seems that after they killed Albert Campbell they left several clues that it was murder.The next year a Fort Campbell soldier with the 101st was killed in Clarksville.Albert was at 11 Raymond ST and was a Clarkson University student.The number 11 was left in Clarksville and in Iowa.In Iowa the graffiti was AC11 than a D with a smiley face.AC is the same initials as Albert Campbell.In Clarksville a quote from scene 11 of a movie was left. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
3/14/2009 6:05 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
the "trane" thing was thrown out by some professor and his students.
it was a dumb idea when it is so obvious.
Fact- Method of killing -Drowning
Fact- Many Blacks and Arabs can't swim
Fact- Drug gang, muslim blacks- interconnected via frats and the drug trade- ex military- killing white guys for sport. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 630576
Not true .It was put out by someone that was orphaned after his mother was murdered to see if anyone knew of other class dates matching.It was not put out to sell anyone on the theory but just to gather more info.
I was a neighbor of one of the victims. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 634417
3/14/2009 6:21 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
I think it's chicks that are in a gang and have something against goodlooking, smart college guys! They lace the guys drink, then lure them out of the bar. Brian Shaffer was seen on camera last talking to a couple of women by the escaltor. Matt found in East Dubuque/Dubuque Iowa was last seen at a strip bar! think about it strippers do a lot of traveling town to town, state to state and many have pimps or guys that go with them. When these bodies are found in the water the autospy usually can not tell alcohol level or any drugs because it has left the system same with any foul play! If it was a sexual assault, there would be evidence of that because of torn skin also tie marks on hands or feet would probably still be there! So my question is why are these people doing this, for what motive? Is it some kind of sadist ritual or fetish or some women that are holding a grudge againist these popular guys? Any other theories?
Yes there is a lot of good circumstantial evidence that women are involved.I believe in at least one case they were used to make sure the victim got into a taxi,except it was not a taxi.The taxi or driver a man claimed to call was never located.I believe the victim was found on myspace and the killers are acting.They make themselves someone else the victim can relate to so they can become friends.The man became another soldier and the girls acted like a couple of nice sweet girls.No one can name the so called person who called the cab because neither the man nor the cab existed.The victim having drank too much did not question whether he was getting into the cab as all it took was the power of sugestion from the girls.They probably even offered to go with him to make sure he got home safe.
It seems that after they killed Albert Campbell they left several clues that it was murder.The next year a Fort Campbell soldier with the 101st was killed in Clarksville.Albert was at 11 Raymond ST and was a Clarkson University student.The number 11 was left in Clarksville and in Iowa.In Iowa the graffiti was AC11 than a D with a smiley face.AC is the same initials as Albert Campbell.In Clarksville a quote from scene 11 of a movie was left. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 626075
Explain more about the myspace, i'm interested! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 634417
3/14/2009 6:36 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
New update, Kristi Piehl says many families of the drowning victims are comparing notes & discovering similarities. Clothes, wallets, college id's are being recovered with the victims but not their Religious neck chains. Why would the killer or killers take these items, any ideas? www.sfkillers.com |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
3/14/2009 7:01 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
With myspace you can look for a certain profile such as a drinker or someone listed as athletic by clicking advance search. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 634417
3/14/2009 7:06 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
With myspace you can look for a certain profile such as a drinker or someone listed as athletic by clicking advance search. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 626075
Ok , I see what you mean. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 634417
3/14/2009 7:11 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Didn't someone say something about the (DOD) Dealers of Death, i think that was the name of the group, anyways i thought I read somewhere that one of the guys in the group admitted to killing one of the drowning victims? Does anyone think there's anything to this group or are they involved in these killings? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
3/15/2009 12:39 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Didn't someone say something about the (DOD) Dealers of Death, i think that was the name of the group, anyways i thought I read somewhere that one of the guys in the group admitted to killing one of the drowning victims? Does anyone think there's anything to this group or are they involved in these killings? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 634417
Milwaukee magazine ran the story.The informants story may be false but the DOD may be real.Maybe he knows something.The killers intentionaly deceive.Its like the graffiti says-things are not always what they seem.The graffiti in Vermont was dismissed as being evidence because they believed it had been there long before Nick Garza disappeared,but was it?You are supposed to believe that it was old graffiti because that is what the killlers want you to believe.With the skill of an artist someone wrote new graffiti in with the old.Than when the police investigate the graffiti they come to a false conclusion because no one picked up that new graffiti was mixed with old.The graffiti is a cryptic message that they killed another young man in another state,but when that is revealed by someone they are immediately dismissed as a nut job ,because that is what the killers want you to believe.The graffiti is a message that says they killed a man after adbucting him from a grocery store.When someone figured it out it was dismissed by others because it did not agree with the official explanation that the graffiti had been there a long time before the murder.They played a game of deception with the graffiti in Iowa also,intentionaly making the graffiti look aged.BTW the man abducted from the grocery store I am referring to was the eleventh child.The Trane theory was also dismissed by some.The arguments against it don't hold up under scrutiny.for instance it was said that it was a stupid theory because it does not matter if Trane is in St Paul , LaCrosse and the other locations because they all have Walmarts also and that does not mean an employee of Walmart was the killer.That is not a fair comparison because Walmart is not open only ten days a year.(There were only 10 days of classes in Clarksville TN)(Clarksville has a Trane facility that has classes ). |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
3/15/2009 1:36 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
I would like to add that not only have the police hindered the investigation by putting out false information,there is also the fact that it is a belief killers do not work together.This is another statement that is false and even given by professional profilers. The internet was not even around for that long in our history.It is time to rethink how this changes the equation.Even before the internet killers sometimes worked together.They also point out that smiley faces are common,ignoring that several distinct symbols have been found.They take advantage of the information that has not been made public to make a point as they are attention whores.Unfortunately the official statements by authorities and those seeking to bring attention to themselves,such as Pat Brown have only hindered the investigation.Everyone that has tried to be objective and see the big picture is at a disadvantange.We are pretty much confined to speaking openly about this on a conspiracy forum because of all the peresonal attacks on us by those wishing to bring attention to themselves and monopolize the discussion . |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
3/15/2009 2:57 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
One more thing...Someone close to a victim probably would not know if the victim was chosen from his myspace profile.Imagine what you might tell someone if they told you that you were hooking up with someone from the internet.You would probably advise against it.The killers may even suggest to the victim that they don't talk about meeting on the internet because they always get treated with suspicion by people when they know.They gained the trust of the victim so he keeps quiet respecting the wishes of the killer.The killers being masters of manipulation never get suspected.They may even be talking to the police in some instances intentionaly misleading them. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 635675
3/15/2009 6:36 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Didn't someone say something about the (DOD) Dealers of Death, i think that was the name of the group, anyways i thought I read somewhere that one of the guys in the group admitted to killing one of the drowning victims? Does anyone think there's anything to this group or are they involved in these killings?
Milwaukee magazine ran the story.The informants story may be false but the DOD may be real.Maybe he knows something.The killers intentionaly deceive.Its like the graffiti says-things are not always what they seem.The graffiti in Vermont was dismissed as being evidence because they believed it had been there long before Nick Garza disappeared,but was it?You are supposed to believe that it was old graffiti because that is what the killlers want you to believe.With the skill of an artist someone wrote new graffiti in with the old.Than when the police investigate the graffiti they come to a false conclusion because no one picked up that new graffiti was mixed with old.The graffiti is a cryptic message that they killed another young man in another state,but when that is revealed by someone they are immediately dismissed as a nut job ,because that is what the killers want you to believe.The graffiti is a message that says they killed a man after adbucting him from a grocery store.When someone figured it out it was dismissed by others because it did not agree with the official explanation that the graffiti had been there a long time before the murder.They played a game of deception with the graffiti in Iowa also,intentionaly making the graffiti look aged.BTW the man abducted from the grocery store I am referring to was the eleventh child.The Trane theory was also dismissed by some.The arguments against it don't hold up under scrutiny.for instance it was said that it was a stupid theory because it does not matter if Trane is in St Paul , LaCrosse and the other locations because they all have Walmarts also and that does not mean an employee of Walmart was the killer.That is not a fair comparison because Walmart is not open only ten days a year.(There were only 10 days of classes in Clarksville TN)(Clarksville has a Trane facility that has classes ). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 626075
Thanks for the information! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 635675
3/15/2009 7:37 PM | | Anonymous Coward
User ID: 635675
3/15/2009 9:37 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
After watching the movie, UNTRACEABLE, it makes me wonder if some sick group is actually holding the young men in a basement or somewhere torching these poor guys before finally letting them go into the water! I wonder if that's the case ,if these sicko's are making some kind of smut movies, just a thought! What do you think? Have you seen untraceable? I know it's where there's a live feed on the internet which is not the case here, but possibly smut movies if they really exist? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
3/16/2009 12:10 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
After watching the movie, UNTRACEABLE, it makes me wonder if some sick group is actually holding the young men in a basement or somewhere torching these poor guys before finally letting them go into the water! I wonder if that's the case ,if these sicko's are making some kind of smut movies, just a thought! What do you think? Have you seen untraceable? I know it's where there's a live feed on the internet which is not the case here, but possibly smut movies if they really exist? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 635675
No,but I do beleive the killers follow a script in some cases.They should be looking at someone with artistic ability and an interest in art and acting.(remember Skylar Deleon?)They may even get ideas from movies and television.They know in real life murder does not get investigated like it does in CSI so by imitating fictional crimes that go unsolved in real life ,they are mocking the police .The informant that revealed the dealers of death probably told one lie he knew would put the whole story in doubt.That is part of the game.After all they are mocking the police.To them killing is not just for fun it is an art.It would be funny to the killers that they gave the police true information and the police did not believe it.I should have made a better comparison with Walmart earlier.I don't have access to internet and tend to rush.It would only be a fair comparison for instance if the murders only occurred one of the days of the year a certain trucking company made deliveries to the Walmarts in those cities at the same time young men disappeared.My own suspicion is that they may have a leader with different motivation but those that aid him or her have their own motivation.Not everyone involved may have the same motivation.The arguments at this point are against there being a serial killer at this point are weak and the arguments against it don't hold up under scrutiny. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
3/16/2009 12:31 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
In the case of Brian Carrick the evidence was destroyed for 2 reasons.First of all because the manager asked someone to clean up the blood and secondly because of the overhead AC unit.There must have been a struggle which means they probably had him down on the floor at one point .Were they worried that fingerprints could have got on the floor?How long was the AC unit leaking water on the floor?Did someone intentionaly tamper with the unit so it would drip water and take care of any fingerprints left on the floor?Who would think to do such a thing to cover up the evidence?
The morning after Brian's disappearance, a stock boy at Val's found a pool of blood in a walk-in freezer in the produce department and alerted the store manager. The manager said he saw the blood, which was diluted with water dripping from an overhead cooling unit. He told the stock boy to mop it up. The manager, who at the time was not aware Brian was missing, said he assumed the blood came from raw meat stored in the cooler. It was enough blood "that he had to mop it up three times with a mop and wring it out each time". Detectives were able to get traces of blood from the mopped floor. DNA tests confirmed that blood was Brian's. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
3/16/2009 12:44 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
CSI episode 11 was shown on tv before the murder of Brian Carrick.In that episode a woman runs in the store looking to be in distress.She says she locked her baby in the car.They lure a woman away and abduct her.They put her in a refrigerated truck and leave behind graffiti.I beleive Brian was lured away by a woman pretending to be in distress .they get him near the cooler ,push him into it and kill him and than take his body with them.They like the show because of the graffiti angle and the deception and carry out a murder similar. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
3/16/2009 1:14 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
I want to bring up another disadvantage we have.Some info is intentionaly not released.A Lincoln connection was made on Footprintsontheriversedge among other places.In some cases it is not know where the body was found.In one case all that is known is the body was found NE of where the victim was last seen by someone described as a recreationist.Taking the highway NE will bring you to an area with the name Lincoln in it.Was the recreationist a fisherman?hunter?If the police don't do their job we will never know if he was another smiley face vicitim.I think they probably have a file somewhere they keep this info.Probably under W for wacko. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 636796
3/17/2009 9:39 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
CBS Reporting Co-Worker of Missing Johnsburg Teen Charged With Lying
Missing over four years, Johnsburg teen Brian Carrick disappeared from his part-time job at Val’s, the grocery story in town.
CBS-TV reports a co-worker, Mario Casciaro, now 24, has been charged with nine counts of perjury by the McHenry County State’s Attorney.
CBS says the indictment says Casciaro lied when he answered, “No” to these questions:
indictment, Casciaro said no to each of the following questions from prosecutors:
“Did you say to Allen Lippert that you directed Shane Lamb to scare Brian Carrick and things got out of hand?”
“And that you called your cousins from Chicago to dispose of Brian Carrick's body?”
“And that Brian Carrick's body was initially buried in a local area?”
“And that it was ultimately moved and dismembered and thrown into a river in Iowa because police were searching for it here?”
CBS reports the FBI is involved in the investigation.
The story says the Northwest Herald worked with CBS on the story.
[link to www.mchenrycountyblog.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
3/17/2009 12:12 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
CBS Reporting Co-Worker of Missing Johnsburg Teen Charged With Lying
Missing over four years, Johnsburg teen Brian Carrick disappeared from his part-time job at Val’s, the grocery story in town.
CBS-TV reports a co-worker, Mario Casciaro, now 24, has been charged with nine counts of perjury by the McHenry County State’s Attorney.
CBS says the indictment says Casciaro lied when he answered, “No” to these questions:
indictment, Casciaro said no to each of the following questions from prosecutors:
“Did you say to Allen Lippert that you directed Shane Lamb to scare Brian Carrick and things got out of hand?”
“And that you called your cousins from Chicago to dispose of Brian Carrick's body?”
“And that Brian Carrick's body was initially buried in a local area?”
“And that it was ultimately moved and dismembered and thrown into a river in Iowa because police were searching for it here?”
CBS reports the FBI is involved in the investigation.
The story says the Northwest Herald worked with CBS on the story.
[ link to www.mchenrycountyblog.com]
The man is a liar.This is another guy that knows something but is not necessarily telling the truth.The people involved probably want to be famous.They may even be Hollywood rejects,but they think they will have the last laugh when the truth gets out.The truth of their performances.The truth how they infiltrated college parties.The truth how they played the role of policemen,cab drivers and friends of the victim.The truth of the props they used.They used a fake cab more than once.One time they even parked the cab where it would be caught on video.-Another reason among many I think one of the killers has artistic ability.They are the kind of people that want to live large.When they stayed in Clarksville they were probably not at the quality Inn.The victim in Tennessee was reported to be taking a cab there .It would have been another false lead.They would have stayed in the best motel in the city which would be The Riverside Inn.Look at the myspace page it is still there.Albert Campbell was killed in 2005.The Tennessee soldier in 2006.Since he fits the profile of the preferred victim he is chosen.Under body type it says athletic.The killer probably talked with him about Summit Avenue which is a band mentioned on his myspace and pretended to be another fan like himself.He may have pretended to be another soldier.His name may have been Joshua because the graffiti would indicate that is the killers name,but that would probably be the ficticious name he was using and not his real name..
[link to www.myspace.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
3/17/2009 12:19 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
The one thing I believe the killers will not talk about is the girls involved,especialy to the police.The reason being is they are the artistic ones .They are the ones that are going to put together a presentaion of the murders and expose their brilliant performances and deception.They are going to make them famous and give them all the recognition they feel they deserve.The people involved are not going to tell the police everything as they don't want to jeopardize the fame they will receive when all is revealed. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
3/17/2009 12:44 PM | | Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
3/18/2009 11:03 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Please someone tell me why there has been a slow-down in posts here at GLP about these murders,these smiley face murders. It is fasinating and horrifying at the same time that these murders keep occuring and there are a number of things that lead many people to believe that this very well could be a cover-up of some sort.
And could someone tell me why no one on GLP has discussed
Brain Schaffer(missing Ohio State Student---never located but disappeared from the Ugly Tuna Saloona, but there are cameras that pick him up walking into The Ugly Tuna Saloona but these same cameras never pick him up leaving) This case with Brain Schaffer haunts me still. This was a few years ago, I think April 1st, 2006. He was a VERY good-looking,very athletic guy who had just finished med school and had a gilrfriend whom he was just a week away from asking her to marry him.
Watch this..................
[ link to www.youtube.com]
The similarities are amazing. Why haven't they found his body. While his father was still alive(he recently passed away during a hurricane which caused a tree branch fall on his head resulting in his death) he had the river near
The Ugly Tuna Saloona searched multiple times. And I think Brain's mother passed to cancer soon after Brain was considered "missing" so basically Brian's close family are now dead and he no longer has his strongest advocates on his side to help him.
Please just click on the link above and learn more on Brian Schaffer and if you want to check his official myspace page then you can do that by searching under sleepinggiant.... that is his screen name. You should really check that myspace out too....what a handsome young man aho was going soo far in life, happy,extraordinarally(sp?) smart, in love and about to get married.
I almost feel like Brian Schaffer is exactly the type of person that the killer/killers look for....I think he might have been the perfect "one" and I say that because he was never located and it is possible that "they" could still have him and could be torturing him. I mean, we just don't know.
I just beg all of you to also go to his memorial page that his fiancee started and there is also some weird comments left by people on the guestbook, I mean, weird. There's even a few strange comments with a smiley face at the end of the comment.
Okay , I've ranted enough for today. I check this site everyday and have never posted anything til today.
I'll check tomorrow. 
I was reluctant to comment on Brian because to my knowledge he was not found yet.I was hoping there would be some progress made by now.I did not want to be the one to mention if the killers wanted a victim from Columbus that describes themselves as athletic that he would be a good candidate.
Body type: 6' 2" / Athletic
Ethnicity: White / Caucasian
Religion: Christian - other
Zodiac Sign: Aquarius |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
3/18/2009 11:07 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
If anyone knows of someone that got close to a victim that may have been using a ficticious name please contact the police and investigators.It may be a combination of ficticious names.In one instance they may have used the name Josh or Baskins.I can not be sure where.I don't expect you to believe me I only ask you get the word out.In scene 11 of the movie BIG ,Josh is referred to as a killer. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
3/18/2009 11:25 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Sometimes you can go to a doctor and they will give you the wrong diagnosis.I know someone that had menningitis for instance,but the doctor instead diagnosed him with a more commen ailment-the flu.Is that what occured in the case of Collen?
An initial report stated that Collen's asphyxia had been caused after he inhaled carbon dioxide, but Monday afternoon Mitra Kalelkar, the county's deputy chief medical examiner, said the carbon dioxide attribution had been a clerical error. She said small cylinders of nitrous oxide, commonly known as "laughing gas," were found near his body.
First of all there is eveidence that they did not know what was in the containers because they initialy thought it was carbon dioxide.Did they later do a test and realize it was an amonia based product?Than they conclude it must be nitrous oxide because they are aware of college students sometimes inhaling it to get high?Is it instead another ammonia based product that is r717 refrigerant? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
3/19/2009 11:15 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
I beleive girls may have been involved since at least 2002.As the girls aged some of the victims targeted were older also.Carrick was 17 and would have been one of the earlier victims. Shaffer was 27.Tommy Booth was 24. .The girls in 2002 could have been between 15 and 19 years old.The girls could now be between 22 and 26 years old.The killers if they did talk about the murders would tend to give themselves more credit, as if they played a bigger part than they really did. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
3/19/2009 11:26 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
One witness told the police that he saw Mr. McNeil walking down 90th Street, apparently disoriented, between 12:30 and 1 A.M.
Karen Corbetta, a family friend said, "'He was supposed to wait for some girl who wanted to ride back on the subway with him to Fordham,'' Mrs. Corbetta said. ''She went to the bathroom, and we don't know what happened, but when she came out, he was gone.''
LETS SAY THE GIRLS WERE ABOUT 15 IN 97 when McNeil was killed.That would make them about 27 today.They would have been about 20 when 17 yr old Carrick was murdered. They would have been about 24 when 27 yr old Shaffer was killed. They would have been about 26 when 24 yr old booth was killed. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
3/19/2009 11:53 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
As you can see Brians favorite ban is Pearl Jam. They already killed people last seen at a Pearl Street bar. Pearl could have been one of the words they used to search for a next victim on myspace.Booth had his name tattooed on his arm which could have made him a target. There is a very clear pattern that can't all be just a coincidence.
ame/age: Brian Shaffer, 27
College: Ohio State University Medical School
Physical description: 6' 2," 160#, hazel eyes, brown hair tattoo with Pearl Jam symbol on upper right arm |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
3/21/2009 10:00 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
The eleventh verse from the snyder poem left.
I'll destroy. The "Christian" |
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