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The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane?

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
3/21/2009 11:08 PM
Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane?Quote

I sent this to the FBI.I may be wrong but there are quetions that need to be asked and things that need investigating.

Brian Carrick in Johnsburg Ill. would have been killed after episode 11 was rerun on what is now called spike tv.The I 15 murders.Carrick is from what I read the eleventh child.The number 11 can be associated with the smiley face murders.One week classes for air conditioning technicians were in session at some of the cities where young men disappeared.In the episode a woman pretends to be in distress and lures the victim away.They put the victim in a refrigerated truck.The real victim may have been lured to the walk in cooler.As you may know the air conditioner was leaking a lot of water which left a pool of water that would have destroyed any fingerprints if there was a struggle on the floor.
It sounds a little too convenient.I suggested early on a soldier in Tennessee may have been a victim.They now list him as a possible victim on a sfkillers
webpage.He was with the 101st Airbourne division and stationed at FT Campbell.He disappeared in Clarksville.He disappeared the next year after Albert Campbell ,a Clarkson University student that was last seen at a bar at 11 Raymond Street disappeared.One of the first suspected victims was Patrick McNeil.He was waiting outside a bathroom for a girl that said she wanted to ride with him on the subway .There were other victims seen with women before they disappeared.Classes were held by Trane corporation in Clarksville for only ten days in total in 2006-The same year a young soldier disappeared.The eleventh line of the poem left in graffiti is -
I'll destroy. The "Christian" Feel free to check my story out.There were only 10 days of classes in Clarksville Tennessee in 2006 .The number 11 was left in Vermont,Pennsylvania,and Iowa.If Campbell was murdered they would have been able to find the FT Campbell soldier on myspace.It would have been the same with Shaffer ,who gave his favorite band as being Pearl Jam.The same name of a street where young men were last seen.If girls are involved I suspect they may have been very young when they started and be around 27 today.The men suspected of being targets that were in their late twenties were some of the later disappearances.As the women aged some of the victims may have been older also.There are other patterns which could be more than coincidence.The name Lincoln can be associated with some disappearances and Tommy Booth had his name tatooed on his arm.In addition Patrick McNeil was already dead and he was a Fordham student.I have to question the official explanation.For one if someone added new graffiti where there was already graffiti ,I doubt anyone would notice.I am also curious as to how they established Benjamin Collen was inhaling nitrous oxide.If they did a litmis test with paper that turned blue indicating the presence of ammonia they would have discovered an ingredient not only used in manufacturing nitrous oxide but one in air conditioner refrigerant.
Anony Mouse
User ID: 640229
3/22/2009 7:58 AM
Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane?Quote

Trane - seems farfetched. However, here is another one that fits the M.O. of the Smiley Killer

Biblical Name = Ezra Malan
Sex = Male
Age = 22
Description : BM, athletic build, attractive
Location: Portland ME
Date: March 2009 (on going search/missing)
Activity before disappearance - drinking with friends in local bar, separated from them briefly about 1:00 a.m. , previously that night identified by police for tresspassing at a nearby boat marina.

Google will bring up current news stories.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 640178
3/22/2009 8:03 AM
Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane?Quote

ISTHIS WHAT YOU MEANT TO WRITE?

the poem left in graffiti is -
I'll destroy the "Christian"
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 640178
3/22/2009 8:06 AM
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New update, Kristi Piehl says many families of the drowning victims are comparing notes & discovering similarities. Clothes, wallets, college id's are being recovered with the victims but not their Religious neck chains. Why would the killer or killers take these items, any ideas? www.sfkillers.com
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 634417



islamic defience.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 640178
3/22/2009 8:17 AM
Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane?Quote

take that honky obama smiley face t shirts

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 640178
3/22/2009 8:19 AM
Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane?Quote

obama smiley

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 640178
3/22/2009 8:22 AM
Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane?Quote

It is interesting that the defunct image of the smiley face has reamerged in conjuction with obama

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 640178
3/22/2009 8:24 AM
Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane?Quote

nother obama smiley face
im voting for the pursuit of happyness.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 640178
3/22/2009 8:46 AM
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was any jewlery taken that was not of catholic significance?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 640178
3/22/2009 8:49 AM
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:*)
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 640178
3/22/2009 8:52 AM
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Didn't someone say something about the (DOD) Dealers of Death, i think that was the name of the group, anyways i thought I read somewhere that one of the guys in the group admitted to killing one of the drowning victims? Does anyone think there's anything to this group or are they involved in these killings?

Milwaukee magazine ran the story.The informants story may be false but the DOD may be real.Maybe he knows something.The killers intentionaly deceive.Its like the graffiti says-things are not always what they seem.The graffiti in Vermont was dismissed as being evidence because they believed it had been there long before Nick Garza disappeared,but was it?You are supposed to believe that it was old graffiti because that is what the killlers want you to believe.With the skill of an artist someone wrote new graffiti in with the old.Than when the police investigate the graffiti they come to a false conclusion because no one picked up that new graffiti was mixed with old.The graffiti is a cryptic message that they killed another young man in another state,but when that is revealed by someone they are immediately dismissed as a nut job ,because that is what the killers want you to believe.The graffiti is a message that says they killed a man after adbucting him from a grocery store.When someone figured it out it was dismissed by others because it did not agree with the official explanation that the graffiti had been there a long time before the murder.They played a game of deception with the graffiti in Iowa also,intentionaly making the graffiti look aged.BTW the man abducted from the grocery store I am referring to was the eleventh child.The Trane theory was also dismissed by some.The arguments against it don't hold up under scrutiny.for instance it was said that it was a stupid theory because it does not matter if Trane is in St Paul , LaCrosse and the other locations because they all have Walmarts also and that does not mean an employee of Walmart was the killer.That is not a fair comparison because Walmart is not open only ten days a year.(There were only 10 days of classes in Clarksville TN)(Clarksville has a Trane facility that has classes ).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 626075


ok do a list here of all the graffit involved. and let us study what it may mean.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 640178
3/22/2009 8:59 AM
Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane?Quote

I want to bring up another disadvantage we have.Some info is intentionaly not released.A Lincoln connection was made on Footprintsontheriversedge among other places.In some cases it is not know where the body was found.In one case all that is known is the body was found NE of where the victim was last seen by someone described as a recreationist.Taking the highway NE will bring you to an area with the name Lincoln in it.Was the recreationist a fisherman?hunter?If the police don't do their job we will never know if he was another smiley face vicitim.I think they probably have a file somewhere they keep this info.Probably under W for wacko.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 626075


aswell as obama reinvigorating the pop culture symbol of the smiley face
he has made great media of himself being linked to president lincoln.
just connections i know they are wild
but it seems to me their could be a anti christian muslim angle to this and we know what some of those woh ocme into contact with that doctrine are capable of.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 640178
3/22/2009 9:19 AM
Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane?Quote

As you can see Brians favorite ban is Pearl Jam. They already killed people last seen at a Pearl Street bar. Pearl could have been one of the words they used to search for a next victim on myspace.Booth had his name tattooed on his arm which could have made him a target. There is a very clear pattern that can't all be just a coincidence.


ame/age: Brian Shaffer, 27
College: Ohio State University Medical School
Physical description: 6' 2," 160#, hazel eyes, brown hair tattoo with Pearl Jam symbol on upper right arm
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 626075


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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 640178
3/22/2009 9:23 AM
Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane?Quote

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 640178
3/22/2009 9:31 AM
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 640178
3/22/2009 9:42 AM
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 640178
3/22/2009 9:46 AM
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Obama administration seeks to stregthen military ties with Mexico. U.S. JCS Chairman pays homage to American troops killed in Mexican-American War at cemetery in Mexico. War was one of American imperialist expansion.

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Profiler
User ID: 377745
3/22/2009 9:55 AM
Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane?Quote

New update, Kristi Piehl says many families of the drowning victims are comparing notes & discovering similarities. Clothes, wallets, college id's are being recovered with the victims but not their Religious neck chains. Why would the killer or killers take these items, any ideas? www.sfkillers.com



islamic defience.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 640178

Nope... Serial killers ALWAYS keep mementos - like trophies.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
3/22/2009 10:09 AM
Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane?Quote

ISTHIS WHAT YOU MEANT TO WRITE?

the poem left in graffiti is -
I'll destroy the "Christian"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 640178



no it is the eleventh line of a poem.there is a link to the poem at sfkillers.I am thinking now the star is left because it is a religous symbol.The 11 in Pennsylvania may refer to 9-11.I will be working on trying to figure that out today.Damn I never mentioned AC being left in Iowa.I don't know if the classses are a coincidence but I had to mention it because of the possibility it could lead to a killer and people from out of town would have been here and taking that class.Narrowing down possible suspects in the other cities would be difficult because they had more classes.I am all for hearing any theories.If someone did kill about 60 young mmen they may have made a point of doing it in unusual ways.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
3/22/2009 10:18 AM
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was any jewlery taken that was not of catholic significance?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 640178

some victims may have been wearing an arrowhead
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
3/22/2009 10:22 AM
Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane?Quote

Didn't someone say something about the (DOD) Dealers of Death, i think that was the name of the group, anyways i thought I read somewhere that one of the guys in the group admitted to killing one of the drowning victims? Does anyone think there's anything to this group or are they involved in these killings?

Milwaukee magazine ran the story.The informants story may be false but the DOD may be real.Maybe he knows something.The killers intentionaly deceive.Its like the graffiti says-things are not always what they seem.The graffiti in Vermont was dismissed as being evidence because they believed it had been there long before Nick Garza disappeared,but was it?You are supposed to believe that it was old graffiti because that is what the killlers want you to believe.With the skill of an artist someone wrote new graffiti in with the old.Than when the police investigate the graffiti they come to a false conclusion because no one picked up that new graffiti was mixed with old.The graffiti is a cryptic message that they killed another young man in another state,but when that is revealed by someone they are immediately dismissed as a nut job ,because that is what the killers want you to believe.The graffiti is a message that says they killed a man after adbucting him from a grocery store.When someone figured it out it was dismissed by others because it did not agree with the official explanation that the graffiti had been there a long time before the murder.They played a game of deception with the graffiti in Iowa also,intentionaly making the graffiti look aged.BTW the man abducted from the grocery store I am referring to was the eleventh child.The Trane theory was also dismissed by some.The arguments against it don't hold up under scrutiny.for instance it was said that it was a stupid theory because it does not matter if Trane is in St Paul , LaCrosse and the other locations because they all have Walmarts also and that does not mean an employee of Walmart was the killer.That is not a fair comparison because Walmart is not open only ten days a year.(There were only 10 days of classes in Clarksville TN)(Clarksville has a Trane facility that has classes ).


ok do a list here of all the graffit involved. and let us study what it may mean.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 640178



you can find the graffiti at the Sopes blog and sfkillers.This is a video that shows individual symbols left in 4 different states.


[link to www.youtube.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
3/22/2009 10:34 AM
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As you shoot down the Vietnamese girls and men
in their fields
Burning and chopping,
Poisoning and blighting,

So surely I hunt the white man down
in my heart.
The crew-cutted Seattle boy
The Portland boy who worked for U.P.
that was me.

I won't let him live. The "American"
I'll destroy. The "Christian"
has long been dead.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
3/22/2009 10:40 AM
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In comments sections on one website someone says"tech9"
thought it might be worth a mention.I found this website.

[link to www.therealtechn9ne.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
3/22/2009 2:57 PM
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Branson Perry was believed to possibly wearing an arrowhead.
There was one possible victim I can't think of the name off the top of my head that may have been wearing an arrowhead also. Perry fits the superman pattern, but that pattern could be a coincidence. Clark is a common name that can be linked to disappearances,however a guy named LangLois drowned. Langlois is hardly a common name but there is no evidence to suggest Langlois was murdered. I thought 11 linking to Carrick could be a coincidence but you have to consider the eleventh line of the poem about killing christians. The eleven to my knowledge only showed up in more recent disappearances. Carrick was an early victim. You can make CSI 11 and DEC with the Vermont graffiti. December is the month Carrick disappeared. DEC also is linked to the disappearance of Josh Sztostak. Josh can be linked to Columbus and Pearl. Columbus and Pearl can be linked to Brian Shaffer.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 627656
3/22/2009 4:10 PM
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Two victims went to Arrowhead High School. Jared Dion and Mat Kruziki.

[link to cincipulse.ourtown.com]

Here's an example of SFK playing games with graffiti. "Key" = victims from Kentucky or with a 'ki' in their name like Kruziki. 'Lock' stands for victims in Lacrosse. Finally the 2 arroheads stand for Dion and Kruziki.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
3/22/2009 5:53 PM
Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane?Quote

Two victims went to Arrowhead High School. Jared Dion and Mat Kruziki.

[link to cincipulse.ourtown.com]

Here's an example of SFK playing games with graffiti. "Key" = victims from Kentucky or with a 'ki' in their name like Kruziki. 'Lock' stands for victims in Lacrosse. Finally the 2 arroheads stand for Dion and Kruziki.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 627656



Thanks ,I tried to print it out but it is not working.


A boat was docked in Clarksville when graffiti appeared called Silver Boots.It said Delaware on the boat. According to records that boat is registered to POCTA International. There was a single car there early in the morning that was grey and had the letters HFK on the license plate. This however was not immediately after the disappearance. It was after I brought up the disappearance in Clarksville on the internet. They left an arrow which seemed to point to a locked door of a utility room. A message said go BIG or get covered. In the movie BIG in scene 11 Josh is called a killer. I shared this information last year with several people privately including National Investigations and the FBI. I posted the pictures on my website right after I talked to a Clarksville policeman so he could see it. I left the picture up for at least a month with no explanation of what it was. I notified authorities I had a website I kept info on. If it was not for the fact the letters in the plate were HFK I would not have suspected any thing. This could all be some sort of strange coincidence for all I know. A lot of time has passed so I am now making this public for the first time.
AC
User ID: 627656
3/23/2009 1:24 AM
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bump

News today folks - watch Good Morning America.
SF Killers on Good Morning Ame
User ID: 627656
3/23/2009 1:23 PM
Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane?Quote

Today's report:

[link to abcnews.go.com]
Wraith1970
User ID: 444477
3/23/2009 1:34 PM
Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane?Quote

Today's report:

[link to abcnews.go.com]
 Quoting: SF Killers on Good Morning Ame 627656


Thanks for posting the link.....
KillerMermaid
User ID: 575121
3/25/2009 10:46 PM
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some of these theories would assume that the killer(s) know their victim's name.

So either it's someone that knows them (or has meet them) OR someone who's been stalking them long enough to find these things out about them (name, educational background, religious background, etc.)
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