The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane?

alot actually vanish on the 13th day of the month.not 3+10=13 i mean those combos might mean somethin later but right now im talking bout the actual day of the month.


Also check day before, the 12th. Because maybe last day/night seen was the 12th but they were actually killed on the 13th.

There's also 8 major sabbots (festivals) that satanists worship:

2/1
3/21
4/30
5/1
6/21
8/1
9/23
10/31
12/21



good idea.I wish i had more time to work on this.i would like to tell you all where i am at but at this point i can't post things on the internet.I really did not have many choices in the first place because it is not like I can get people I know and law enforcement to work with me.They want evidence in the first place that a crime was even commited or they just don't want to take the time to help.It is a larger burden to carry to make the case for murder so it does not get brushed off as a case of another stupid kid getting drunk and drowning.

There are several micro-patterns that appear within the Smiley Face killer map pattern. One of these appears in the lower lip of the face. Three of the victims in this lip died or vanished in 2005 and each had a father who was a police officer. This lower lip pattern also spells COP backwards.

Columbus, OH - Anthony Luzio Jr, 25 (father was cop)
Oakwood, IL - Ryan Katcher, 19 (father died before son)
Peoria, IL - Keith Ryan, 22 (father was cop)
East Dubuque, IL - Matt Kruziki, 24 (father was cop)

The following is a list of towns represented on the map as suspected Smiley Face victim locations. Many of these towns have had multiple similer deaths that fit the victim profile.

Duluth, MN
Hinckley, MN
Marshall/Taunton, MN
Minneapolis Metro Area, MN
Moorhead, MN
New London, MN
St. Cloud/Collegeville, MN
Eau Claire, WI
La Crosse, WI
Madison, WI
Milwaukee, WI
Sheboygan, WI
Ames, IA
Chicago, IL
East Dubuque, IL
Oakwood, IL
Peoria, IL
South Bend, IN
East Lansing, MI
Ravenna, MI
Athens, OH
Cincinnati, OH
Columbus, OH
Toledo, OH
Bellevue, KY
Ridley Township, PA
Albany, NY
Canton, NY
Cortland, NY
Ithaca, NY
Kingston, NY
New York, NY
Potsdam, NY
Middlebury, VT
Beverly, MA


Word Patterns

One thing that accidents don't do is spell out words. The following is a list of words spelled out by the Smiley Face killers. The words are spelled by using the first letters in the names of the towns where the victim died or vanished and go in order by date.

ARM:

ALBANY, NY - Josh Szostak, 21 (12-23-2007)
RIDLEY TOWNSHIP, PA - Thomas J. Booth, 24 (01-20-2008)
MIDDLEBURY, VT - Nicholas Garza, 19 (02-05-2008)

A smiley face was found in all three of these cases. Notice that the first letter in the names of the towns spell out the word ARM. This was the location of suspected Smiley Face victim Brian Shaffer's tattoo. Shaffer vanished from Columbus, Ohio in 2006. The ARM word begins in the exact town (Albany) that was crypticly linked by street names (Pearl, (Jam)es, Columbia) to the Pearl Jam tattoo on Brian's arm. The Pearl Jam group once mentioned the Shaffer case at one of their concerts

COLD:

CHICAGO, IL - Brian Welzien, 21 (12-31-1999)
OAKWOOD, IL - Ryan Katcher, 19 (11-05-2000)
LACROSSE, WI - Patrick Runningen, 23 (03-01-2001)
DULUTH, MN - Ken Jason Christiansen, 19 (04-13-2001)

One repeated pattern of the Smiley Face killers is that the killer takes various details from newspaper articles about his victims and incorporates it into other deaths and cryptic clues. On 04-13-1999 Jeffrey Geesey (age 21) died in La Crosse, Wisconsin. The very next day Nathan Andrew Edberg (age 21) vanished from White Bear Lake, Minnesota and is still missing. On 07-16-1999 the St. Paul Pioneer Press reported on Edberg's disappearance. The following is the first line of the story:

"A bartender at Decoy's Bar and Grill remembers the cold, drizzly night Nathan Edberg vanished."

The very next suspected smiley face death in December of 1999 happened in Chicago and is the begining of the COLD word.


PIRE:

PEORIA, IL - Keith Ryan, 22 (04-12-2005)
ITHACA, NY - Dan Pirfo, 19 (04-24-2005)
RAVENNA, MI - Todd Geib, 22 (06-12-2005)
EAU CLAIRE, WI - Josh Snell, 22 (06-12-2005)

PIRE stands for Pacific Institute for Research and Evaluation (www.pire.org). They specialize in research on underage and college drinking. It is believed that the killer used PIRE as a cryptic clue due to the fact that the victims are often college aged drinkers. There is only about a dozen PIRE offices around the United States. I don't believe it is a coincident that Brian Shaffer vanished from North High Street in Columbus, Ohio. There happens to be a PIRE office on the same street. Notice that the Pirfo name is close to PIRE. This was likely planned by the killer.

Todd Geib was from Ravenna where he once attended high school, but his body was found in a rural lake northeast of town, close to a party he attended. Todd's last known contact was at 12:50 AM when he made a call to say "I'm in a field", then the call abruptly ended. This is similer to the case of missing Marshall, Minnesota student Brandon Swanson, who has not been heard from since his call also abruptly ended. It is possible that the killers are using cell phone jammers to keep a victim from making or completing a call.

So josh snell, todd geib, and brandon swanson all called someone before their deaths saying they were being chased ? Do you know if other victims tried to do the same? I can't remember was all these guys cell phone, wallets etc missing at the scene? k

I've had the worst day today with Bright House.
My computer has been down all day.
Let me see what else I can find and I'll post it asap.

what about Pennsylvania.theres stories about pa.
there was a story from pa about some family.
and it was twisted.

what about Pennsylvania.theres stories about pa.
there was a story from pa about some family.
and it was twisted.

As far as I can tell there's been one possible victim in PA.

Tommy Booth age 24 last seen at Bootleggers Night Club in Woodlyn, Pa. He had a tattoo on his arm with his last name "Booth". Last seen at that bar on 1/19/08. Found in a creek behind bar. Police found a smiley face with crown on outside wall under party deck.

Maybe there's more that I haven't run across the info about.





What kind of a story? I'd like to do some research on that.
Did you read that from W.S.?
Tell me more plz.

Didn't someone say something about the (DOD) Dealers of Death, i think that was the name of the group, anyways i thought I read somewhere that one of the guys in the group admitted to killing one of the drowning victims? Does anyone think there's anything to this group or are they involved in these killings?

New update, Kristi Piehl says many families of the drowning victims are comparing notes & discovering similarities. Clothes, wallets, college id's are being recovered with the victims but not their Religious neck chains. Why would the killer or killers take these items, any ideas? www.sfkillers.com



islamic defience.

Nope... Serial killers ALWAYS keep mementos - like trophies.

wow some good info.I have been working on the micro patterns myself,but right now I have to go over certain facts again with some people .This means pointing out things they over looked and what it could mean.I will be re submitting evidence but making sure I point out why it could be significant.Just laying out the facts does not get anyones attention.

I'l be back late tonight to see what you guys think about that.

Hey Cursed13 :

Tell me more about that Pa. family.

Willie Jacobson drown in Ithaca, NY on April 27, 2008. It was reported that Jacobson was from Minnesota. Two days after Jacobson's death, the New York Daily News reported, "A spray-painted smiley face with a taunting grin could be the disturbing signature of a nationwide network of killers who target promising college students" and "They're laughing at the police".

The very next suspected Smiley Face case was a college student from Marshall, Minnesota named Brandon Swanson. Strangely, his car was found abandoned near the town of Taunton, even though he told his parents that he was in a different county at the time his call abruptly ended. Notice the cryptic connection between the "taunting grin" and "laughing at the police" quotes from the newspaper. Taunt the police (Taunton-Marshall).

Josh Snell was last heard from on the same day as Geib, but about an hour later. Snell called a friend on the evening that he drown to say that he thought that unknown people were following him and that he might be in trouble with the police. Local police confirmed that they had no contact with Snell, so this may have been someone impersonating an officer.


CAMP:

COLUMBUS, OH - Anthony Luzio Jr, 25 (07-04-2005)
AMES, IA - Jacob B. Hobson, 27 (07-19-2005)
MOORHEAD, MN - Patrick Kycia, 19 (09-23-2005)
POTSDAM, NY - Albert Campbell, 22 (10-07-2005)

The very last victim in the CAMP word has the name Campbell. The Smiley Face killer has left repeated similer partial names in his clues. This is more evidence that the killer sometimes stalks his victims and even knows their names.


NEMEC:

NEW LONDON, MN - Daniel Lee Newville, 18 (08-01-2002)
EAU CLAIRE, WI - Craig Burrows, 23 (09-29-2002)
MINNEAPOLIS, MN - Chris Jenkins, 21 (10-31-2002)
EAU CLAIRE, WI - Michael Noll, 22 (11-06-2002)
COLLEGEVILLE, MN - Joshua Cheney Guimond, 21 (11-09-2002)

The most famous person with this name is actor Corin Nemec. In 1989, he played the roll of Steven Stayner in the movie I Know My First Name Is Steven. The movie was based on the true story of an abducted child. In real life Steven's brother (Cary Stayner) became a serial killer. Corin Nemec talks about Cary Stayner in the book The Yosemite Murders. Nemec is also mentioned in the book I Know My First Name Is Steven, which talks about the abduction as well as about Cary Stayner's murders. The NEMEC word was being formed at the exact same time that Stayner was on trial for murder and making big headlines in the newspapers. Nemec's character fits the basic profile of a Smiley Face victim. (young, white, male, abducted, drank alcohol)

Here are just a few of the many Cary Stayner newspaper headlines from around the time of the NEMEC word deaths:

Death Penalty Recommendation
New York Times October 10, 2002

Jury Finds Killer Is Sane
New York Times September 17, 2002

YOSEMITE KILLER SANE, JURY SAYS
St. Paul Pioneer Press (MN) September 17, 2002

Guilty In Yosemite Murders
New York Times August 27, 2002

MOTEL WORKER CONVICTED IN THREE DEATHS/YOSEMITE VERDICTS MAY BRING DEATH PENALTY
St. Paul Pioneer Press (MN) August 27, 2002

Mental impairment key to jury verdict on Stayner-Deliberations may begin this week in triple-murder case.
San Francisco Chronicle August 21, 2002

Trial opens in slaying of Yosemite sightseers-Defense says Stayner killed them after mental breakdown
San Francisco Chronicle July 16, 2002

Another strange thing about the NEMEC word victims is that a police bloodhound was tracking the same scent in both the Chris Jenkins case as well as the Josh Guimond case, which seems to indicate that the same person's scent was found at both locations, even though these were in different cities and a number of miles apart. The Jenkins death was ruled a homicide.


The San Francisco Connection

Clues that point to San Francisco seem to be a frequent pattern in the Smiley Face case. These include:

-A Gary Snyder poem about the deaths of young white males was left at the creek in Duluth where two young white male college students died. This poem was originally published in August 1968 in San Francisco. This is just a few months before the Zodiac Killer would go on a murder rampage around San Francisco.

-Multiple Smiley Face death locations had graffiti that was similer to the Zodiac Killers drawings that he sent to various people in San Francisco.

-Three murder victims of Cary Stayner had rented their car in San Francisco and were supposed to fly back to San Francisco, but were murdered instead. This is related to the NEMEC clue as explained above in the Word Patterns section.

I told Kristi about the info here.The words that the cities make .

I don't like to think about what they do to the victims .There are not a lot of marks on victims as far as I know so maybe there is some kind of psychological torture?