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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 651440
4/7/2009 9:07 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Is there a trane facility in every area these guys have been found or went missing, no so I don't get the trane theory? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 629667
4/7/2009 9:19 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Is there a trane facility in every area these guys have been found or went missing, no so I don't get the trane theory? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 651440
Hey go back and read page 34(the page before this one) and read what I wrote you please. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 629667
4/7/2009 9:20 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Is there a trane facility in every area these guys have been found or went missing, no so I don't get the trane theory?
Hey go back and read page 34(the page before this one) and read what I wrote you please. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 629667
Oops sorry, it's page 35. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 629667
4/7/2009 9:22 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
I heard that where Dan was last seen was about five miles away from where Chris Jenkins was last seen...which also doesn't sit well... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 651440
4/7/2009 9:22 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
I love this thread there's so much info on here, in the beginning I did think the trane theory was possible but now I'm not sure? I think it's more of a highly organized group like DOD or something like that! The question is ,how are the killers getting these guy;s into the water with no marks or bruises or anything? I don't know maybe the trane theory does make since, these cases are so perplexing! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 629667
4/7/2009 9:36 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
I am wondering how the hell brian or they got brian out of the ugly tuna? Did he go through the construction area doors? He wasn't seen going back out through the front, right? Does anyone know if there is an apartment above the bar? I am also wondering why his body hasn't been found in the water yet? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 647987
It is generally thought that a person cannot leave the Ugly Tuna Saloona without being recorded on the cctv camera. But you can I founda way go down the theater exit stairs out the doors and stay under the window awanings. IF you leave this way the camera does not pick up your image.
So did Brian leave this way ? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 629667
4/7/2009 9:41 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
I am wondering how the hell brian or they got brian out of the ugly tuna? Did he go through the construction area doors? He wasn't seen going back out through the front, right? Does anyone know if there is an apartment above the bar? I am also wondering why his body hasn't been found in the water yet?
It is generally thought that a person cannot leave the Ugly Tuna Saloona without being recorded on the cctv camera. But you can I founda way go down the theater exit stairs out the doors and stay under the window awanings. IF you leave this way the camera does not pick up your image.
So did Brian leave this way ?
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I just want to point out that the person that found a way out of the Ugly Tuna Saloona without cameras detecting them is not me......
I'll go back and find the link in a little bit. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 651956
4/7/2009 10:46 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
This happened close to where I live last week, seems similar, makes me nervous because I am of similar age and description!
[link to www.startribune.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
4/7/2009 12:17 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Is there a trane facility in every area these guys have been found or went missing, no so I don't get the trane theory? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 651440
I do get it.What I don't get is all the other theories with no facts to back them up.How do we know the Latin Kings had any thing to do with this.Anyone could draw a picture of a crown.By that logic we should assume if someone drew a clover a leprachaun is the killer.If they drew a carrot we can assume Bugs Bunny or the Easter bunny is the killer.Yet Blink34 calls the Trane connection slander because Blink is a moron.The theory is based on facts and not opinions that is why some people don't get it.It is not on the internet to discuss if you believe it or not .It is on the internet because a serious investigation is not being done by the FBI. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 651440
4/7/2009 12:19 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Zamlen trained as Tommie Ambassadors, students who host, give tours, and welcome prospective students. OMG, I think this is a HUGE CLUE to his disappearance!! He probably advertised on the internet or newspapers to get new upcomming students. The killer(s), ( if related to the sfk,) might have seen him through advertisements! I wonder if other students could be doing these drownings? Afterall, they would fit in at area bars & functions, parties etc? Could it be other young college students that have a grudge against these successful guy's or a group that does some kind of ritual practice? There is probably older people involved since this has been going on for years, maybe these older people are recruiting these younger people into their sick killing game?
Matt Kruziki found drowned in East Dubuque, Illinois had a similar situation with bloodhounds picking up his scent at a secluded location, then just like this case, it went cold! Were these guys trying to get away from someone(s), then the someone(s) caught up with them and took them by car???? Also remember other victims made strange calls that were abruptly disconnected and at least one said he was being chased and I think he said he thought he was in trouble with the law? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
4/7/2009 12:25 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Is there a trane facility in every area these guys have been found or went missing, no so I don't get the trane theory? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 651440
Before I discuss anything I prefer to bring thing up with law enforcement first.I made the case one last time.I would be happy to discuss this in detail but not now.I have nothing to hide.I put this on an HVAC forum.Does that sound to you like someone that just made up a nutty theory he made up?Or is it someone that wants to put theories to the test and see if more connections can be made.You can see earlier in the thread where the HVAC forum is mentioned and the removal of thread there. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 629667
4/7/2009 12:32 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Is there a trane facility in every area these guys have been found or went missing, no so I don't get the trane theory?
I do get it.What I don't get is all the other theories with no facts to back them up.How do we know the Latin Kings had any thing to do with this.Anyone could draw a picture of a crown.By that logic we should assume if someone drew a clover a leprachaun is the killer.If they drew a carrot we can assume Bugs Bunny or the Easter bunny is the killer.Yet Blink34 calls the Trane connection slander because Blink is a moron.The theory is based on facts and not opinions that is why some people don't get it.It is not on the internet to discuss if you believe it or not .It is on the internet because a serious investigation is not being done by the FBI. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 626075
Yeah that Blink bitch is a damn moron.
Ugh, I could go on about her and how she controls some of the topics and disrepects other who do not agree with her ideas. I hate websleuths. And Tricia is a fucking bitch with her stupid Tid Bits column.......She just rambles about her damn cats(I mean,who gives a fuck about her cats,come on.)and she rambles about her Taco Bell food and on and on about nonsense. She thinks that just because she owns Websleuths that she can ban anyone who talks about psychics and stuff that SHE doesn't believe in. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
4/7/2009 12:38 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
I have been up against a lot.Do you know how hard it is to get someone to take seriously a theory on who might be killing when the assumption is made by some there is no killer in the first place? I have been accused of slander at webslueths.The FBI never contacts me and ignores me.I don't know a lot of things about air conditioning so I try to learn and I put the theory on a HVAC forum to put the theory to the test.It was dismissed based on opinions by some but I put the theory together based on facts.I think women may be involved based on facts.I believe they may feel comfortable around water based on facts.I believe there may be no Latin King connection based on facts.I could be wrong on any point but it won't be because of pre concieved notions.I think they should look for someone that may have rented a Yacht or other boat or possibly owns one.I am not so stuck on a theory that if new info comes out that I could not change my mind. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 651440
4/7/2009 12:40 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
I still say anyone investigating these cases, need to see what these guys all had in common besides goodlooking, smart, athletic. Did they go on the same websites or groups on the internet, did they do any advertising for anything in the papers or internet, did they all have a myspace or facebook account and if so did any of them communicate with the same persons, what was there religion background, whatever else these guys might have in common? I think these killer(s) do there homework and some stalking before hand. I don't think it's random or girls, homeless, guys not in college etc would be victims too! Is the drownings in Canada connected, if so this is a huge gang or group involved! I hope the police are taking the victims computers and going through them! I have a big feeling the internet plays apart in these guy's disappearances as well as the bar scene, just my opinion! With everyones ideas here, maybe something will add up! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
4/7/2009 12:42 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Is there a trane facility in every area these guys have been found or went missing, no so I don't get the trane theory?
I do get it.What I don't get is all the other theories with no facts to back them up.How do we know the Latin Kings had any thing to do with this.Anyone could draw a picture of a crown.By that logic we should assume if someone drew a clover a leprachaun is the killer.If they drew a carrot we can assume Bugs Bunny or the Easter bunny is the killer.Yet Blink34 calls the Trane connection slander because Blink is a moron.The theory is based on facts and not opinions that is why some people don't get it.It is not on the internet to discuss if you believe it or not .It is on the internet because a serious investigation is not being done by the FBI.
Yeah that Blink bitch is a damn moron.
Ugh, I could go on about her and how she controls some of the topics and disrepects other who do not agree with her ideas. I hate websleuths. And Tricia is a fucking bitch with her stupid Tid Bits column.......She just rambles about her damn cats(I mean,who gives a fuck about her cats,come on.)and she rambles about her Taco Bell food and on and on about nonsense. She thinks that just because she owns Websleuths that she can ban anyone who talks about psychics and stuff that SHE doesn't believe in. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 629667
yep i saw where she said to not dicuss the graffiti and even though someone else agreed the Trane theory needs a closer look she dismissed it.She is steering the coversation when they should be putting up a common front and as a group make a case for a killer together.That won't happen as long as they let her get her way. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 629667
4/7/2009 12:50 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
I still say anyone investigating these cases, need to see what these guys all had in common besides goodlooking, smart, athletic. Did they go on the same websites or groups on the internet, did they do any advertising for anything in the papers or internet, did they all have a myspace or facebook account and if so did any of them communicate with the same persons, what was there religion background, whatever else these guys might have in common? I think these killer(s) do there homework and some stalking before hand. I don't think it's random or girls, homeless, guys not in college etc would be victims too! Is the drownings in Canada connected, if so this is a huge gang or group involved! I hope the police are taking the victims computers and going through them! I have a big feeling the internet plays apart in these guy's disappearances as well as the bar scene, just my opinion! With everyones ideas here, maybe something will add up! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 651440
Well they seem to following a template of Gary Snyder's poems. Gary Snyder hated the white man who "drank to it"
That's a clue right there. I know that Brian Shaffer had a myspace.........you should check it out, maybe that's how they picked him out........he still hasn't been found.
And he is the epitamy of what these killers look for which makes me wonder if they are still holding him and torturing him. And Jessiah Jameson (sp?) also had a myspace and you should also check that one out because the comments his girlfriend was leaving while he was still missing,well her comments are heartbreaking. I mean, she was just begging him to come home that they could work through anything that could be a problem(example...he had just gotten back from Iraq and she assumed that he was possibly really having problems adjusting to just coming out of a war zone.)
Anyway, Brian Shaffer can be looked up on myspace if you type in sleepinggiant, that is the url or whatever you call it.
You really should check those both out........cause maybe they are picking them through myspace nowadays,rather than in the late 90's when these "disappearances" were taking place....who knows how they were picking them out then. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 629667
4/7/2009 12:53 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
yep i saw where she said to not dicuss the graffiti and even though someone else agreed the Trane theory needs a closer look she dismissed it.She is steering the coversation when they should be putting up a common front and as a group make a case for a killer together.That won't happen as long as they let her get her way.
Well she owns websleuths so her fat ass can do whatever the hell she wants. Whatever that's why I no longer go there.
But I did send her an email asking her to check out the last 2 pages of this thread. I want her to see what's being said about her.........and I'm sure she'll include it in her "Tid Bits" column. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
4/7/2009 1:00 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
I think they are finding them on the internet also.they want a killer to fit a certain profile before they take them seriously.It probably is not the typical kind of killer or killers.A conspiracy forum is an ideal place for discussion on this.This case needs people that can think outside the box. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
4/7/2009 1:03 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
yep i saw where she said to not dicuss the graffiti and even though someone else agreed the Trane theory needs a closer look she dismissed it.She is steering the coversation when they should be putting up a common front and as a group make a case for a killer together.That won't happen as long as they let her get her way.
Well she owns websleuths so her fat ass can do whatever the hell she wants. Whatever that's why I no longer go there.
But I did send her an email asking her to check out the last 2 pages of this thread. I want her to see what's being said about her.........and I'm sure she'll include it in her "Tid Bits" column. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 629667
I hope she does it is harsh words but it is true.Sometimes you make enemies being honest.Thats life.I bvelieve in coming together for the common good but I can't lie.They need to change their ways over there.People like Blink being allowed to use the forum as her own personal gossip place day after day is ridiculous |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
4/7/2009 1:10 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
BTW I went to the police station twice .I reminded them I took a pic of a smiley face and that sane was written on the bridge among other things.It was May of 2008 when I took the pic but was there before that.I did not know about the smiley killer until then.A lot of people should have see the word sane with it being at the top of the stairs written on the wall.The info everyone has given makes a strong case for murder here.I have not heard back from any one.They have my number. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 651440
4/7/2009 1:22 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
I still say anyone investigating these cases, need to see what these guys all had in common besides goodlooking, smart, athletic. Did they go on the same websites or groups on the internet, did they do any advertising for anything in the papers or internet, did they all have a myspace or facebook account and if so did any of them communicate with the same persons, what was there religion background, whatever else these guys might have in common? I think these killer(s) do there homework and some stalking before hand. I don't think it's random or girls, homeless, guys not in college etc would be victims too! Is the drownings in Canada connected, if so this is a huge gang or group involved! I hope the police are taking the victims computers and going through them! I have a big feeling the internet plays apart in these guy's disappearances as well as the bar scene, just my opinion! With everyones ideas here, maybe something will add up!
Well they seem to following a template of Gary Snyder's poems. Gary Snyder hated the white man who "drank to it"
That's a clue right there. I know that Brian Shaffer had a myspace.........you should check it out, maybe that's how they picked him out........he still hasn't been found.
And he is the epitamy of what these killers look for which makes me wonder if they are still holding him and torturing him. And Jessiah Jameson (sp?) also had a myspace and you should also check that one out because the comments his girlfriend was leaving while he was still missing,well her comments are heartbreaking. I mean, she was just begging him to come home that they could work through anything that could be a problem(example...he had just gotten back from Iraq and she assumed that he was possibly really having problems adjusting to just coming out of a war zone.)
Anyway, Brian Shaffer can be looked up on myspace if you type in sleepinggiant, that is the url or whatever you call it.
You really should check those both out........cause maybe they are picking them through myspace nowadays,rather than in the late 90's when these "disappearances" were taking place....who knows how they were picking them out then. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 629667
Thanks, I did see Brian's myspace, so sad! I wondered too how they picked the victims back then! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 651440
4/7/2009 1:34 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
BTW I went to the police station twice .I reminded them I took a pic of a smiley face and that sane was written on the bridge among other things.It was May of 2008 when I took the pic but was there before that.I did not know about the smiley killer until then.A lot of people should have see the word sane with it being at the top of the stairs written on the wall.The info everyone has given makes a strong case for murder here.I have not heard back from any one.They have my number. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 626075
It pisses me off that it seems after all your effort,kristi's, the detectives and everyone else's the police or fbi just don't care about solving these cases for the victim & their families!!If it was 50+ women you bet your ass there would be a serial killer on the loose!!!!!!!!!! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 651440
4/7/2009 2:35 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Ok all you smart people on this thread, can you tell me , do you think the Canada drownings are associated with the SFK here in the midwest? If you have time read some of this and see if there's any similarities? Let me know what you think as I have to read also. I have heard this brought up on a few websites. [link to news.webshots.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 651440
4/7/2009 2:36 PM | | Anonymous Coward
User ID: 651440
4/7/2009 2:44 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
I was wrong, their not drownings their simply missing, it seems pretty freaky to have all these guys missing as well! WTF is going on? Is this ALL connected? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 652154
4/7/2009 3:10 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
anyone ever google trane and see the HUGE government contracts they get? No wonder that theory always falls flat. What cop wants to go near that can of worms?! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 651440
4/7/2009 8:27 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Read some of these comments, very interesting theories! [link to sfkillers.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 629667
4/7/2009 8:57 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
yep i saw where she said to not dicuss the graffiti and even though someone else agreed the Trane theory needs a closer look she dismissed it.She is steering the coversation when they should be putting up a common front and as a group make a case for a killer together.That won't happen as long as they let her get her way.
Well she owns websleuths so her fat ass can do whatever the hell she wants. Whatever that's why I no longer go there.
But I did send her an email asking her to check out the last 2 pages of this thread. I want her to see what's being said about her.........and I'm sure she'll include it in her "Tid Bits" column.
I hope she does it is harsh words but it is true.Sometimes you make enemies being honest.Thats life.I bvelieve in coming together for the common good but I can't lie.They need to change their ways over there.People like Blink being allowed to use the forum as her own personal gossip place day after day is ridiculous Quoting: Anonymous Coward 626075
Ha ha ha Here is mt reply from the email I sent Tricia from websleuths, cut and pasted
It is as follows:
Wow. But you seem to have confused something. Blink is not on Websleuths. She was banned a long time ago. She is on another forum.
It is so kind of you to send me this link. Did it make you feel good knowing I would go and read cruel comments about myself? Of course you did all of this hiding behind your keyboard. You would never say this to my face.
If hurting someone was your goal consider it a good day. You know nothing about me or what I deal with every day.
Please continue to hide and be cruel to people you don't know but remember, when someone is cruel to you or your loved ones it's Karma coming back at you.
Do not email me again.
That is so funny that she came here and read everything!
Maybe I went too far but I really don't care.
I hate the way she runs her site and many others do too. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 629667
4/7/2009 9:00 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Ok all you smart people on this thread, can you tell me , do you think the Canada drownings are associated with the SFK here in the midwest? If you have time read some of this and see if there's any similarities? Let me know what you think as I have to read also. I have heard this brought up on a few websites. [ link to news.webshots.com]
I think that the canada disappearances are connected to these sfkillers. I think that they are forming a smiley face with fangs but the top of the smiley face,I think,may be in Canada.
Here go here:
[link to surfdete.ipower.com]
Then you'll see what I'm talking about. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 629667
4/7/2009 9:03 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 651440
Yep, they are. I've even cut and pasted a few here on this thread,but they are 2 or 3 pages back.
I think that anyone new to this thread should check out the last 6 or 7 pages and there is much info there that you may not have heard anywhere. Just go back and look.You'll be glad you did. |
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