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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
4/11/2009 12:29 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Maybe you could provide webslueths with some leaderhip cursed.They don't have that.They spent to much time talking about what they do and don't believe and they had Blink steering the conversation.Any theory that has facts to indicate it may be true should be taken seriously even if they don't believe it.It can't keep being about egos or they are not going to make much progress. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
4/11/2009 12:46 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Does any one know if brians predictions posted a drawing of any men somewhere?I would like to compare the pic with others |
| cursed13
User ID: 653279
4/11/2009 3:02 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Maybe you could provide webslueths with some leaderhip cursed.They don't have that.They spent to much time talking about what they do and don't believe and they had Blink steering the conversation.Any theory that has facts to indicate it may be true should be taken seriously even if they don't believe it.It can't keep being about egos or they are not going to make much progress. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 626075
thers only a few people who are posting at ws at the missing college student thread,me and maybe 3-4 others.
i am trying to lead of there im being careful as i dont wanna get banned neither.
did everyone see they arrested a woman in the cantu case?
not to go off topic. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 654556
4/11/2009 4:20 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
If you didn't get to listen to the show with Kristi & Bill Szostak i wrote down some important notes i can share with you.First i just have a comment to make, Bill Szostak is a retired fighter and licensed Fire Investigator 3 of the other victims parents were cops i believe, could these killers be going after these kids because of their parents occupations, angry at those perticular occupations,I certainly hope that's not the case!? I feel bad for these families, but that thought crossed my mind! Does anyone know what the occupations of some of the other victims parents? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
4/11/2009 4:55 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
If you didn't get to listen to the show with Kristi & Bill Szostak i wrote down some important notes i can share with you.First i just have a comment to make, Bill Szostak is a retired fighter and licensed Fire Investigator 3 of the other victims parents were cops i believe, could these killers be going after these kids because of their parents occupations, angry at those perticular occupations,I certainly hope that's not the case!? I feel bad for these families, but that thought crossed my mind! Does anyone know what the occupations of some of the other victims parents? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 654556
with no computer it is not possible for me to have much contact with the outside world.A little while here once in a while and thats it.They refused to just let me take my computer somewhere until it is fixed so it is taking a lot longer than it needs to.I have to fight with them every step of the way.They don't give me an appointment time I want.They don't let me just take the money i spent on the extended service plan and buy a new oneFed ex claimed they sent a part that they did not.The stupid bastards just don't work with you.You are invisable.They do things a certain way and try to do what they think makes their boss happy not me and I am not that hard to get along with. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 654556
4/11/2009 4:57 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Ok anyways Bill said in the interview he cannot release much info because he eventually wants it to be entered in the court of law.Bill said he feels his son was picked up by a vehicle & that the vehicle was seen several times in front of the bar his son was last at and at the port but can not get into more evidence on the vehicle.Religious holidays are of importance plus items of clothing & religious items taken from some of the victims, where other jewerly was still on the victim. Also Bill said 120 days in the water & Josh had hardley no decomposition on him. He said his son only had 5 beers in 2 1/2hours in 2 bars that's what josh friends told him. Bill thinks GHB was given to his son, it causes hot flashes & strange behavior like what was on the survalience tape at the bar. Kristi said if slipped GHB the system when recovered from the water it wouldn't show up in the autopsy unless their really looking for it & do the right test. Josh had 4-5 beers in his system autopsy said but through decomposition it creates it's own alcohol & it could be a little higher. GHB is processed out of the body pretty quickly usually detected in fluid of the eyeballs but by the time the body is found there is no fluid(which leads me to believe these killers have done their research.) There's no way of knowing said Bill it's almost the perfect crime. Kristi said even if it was there, alot of these drowning are written off as accidental. Bill says be conscience of your drinks if it doesn't come directly from the batrender consider it not a safe drink. He also says be puppies of being administrated with a syringe, college bars are elbow to elbow and if someone bumps you and you feel a prick don't think it's your clothing or nothing, you could have been drugged! I personally found that interesting about the syringe! Kristi says they have a former district attorney & a former federal agent looking at these cases. Bill thinks his son only got about 500 feet from the bar then he was picked up! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 654556
4/11/2009 5:12 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
To continue my notes on the interview.. When Bill & Kristi were asked about different theories, Bill said he couldn't get into that much but some of these drownings have a tone of white supremacy and anti christian. Bill says the water is of baptism of a christain, by drowning you get into anti christian, everything is reversed & by using water it takes away their christian rites! They believe some cases the victim is not in that perticular body of water for the period of time their missing, whether through refrigeration, another body of water, only the Lord knows said Bill. Bill says in the bodies there's absolutely no trauma, bruises like falling into the water accidentialy, they seem to be in perfect condition, in several cases the bodies never have been found which leads him to a conclusion by chance could there have been trauma done to these boy? Is that reason were not finding them, if that's the case then it wouldn't be the perfect Crime!?
What do you think about all this? Very interesting information! I hope they get those bastards who are drowning those kids that had such a promising future! |
| cursed13
User ID: 653279
4/11/2009 5:16 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
you would most definatly feel a needle.you know theres a new way to inject medicine into people its like a gun and uses air pressure and you would not feel much at all. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
4/11/2009 5:19 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
thanks 556 . I have been working on this awareness video
[link to www.youtube.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
4/11/2009 5:21 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
I asked permission to use tears in heaven |
| cursed13
User ID: 653279
4/11/2009 5:22 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
not to many people over at ws are interested in the cases,there more fixated on the missing children.i am gonna keep the thread over there alive anyway. |
| cursed13
User ID: 653279
4/11/2009 5:26 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
i think somebody who knows something about the killer/s is surfing these sites for the pure entertainment of it all and to be nosy.i had a whole week to think about some a these murders. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
4/11/2009 5:40 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
maybe.i don't want the killers to know how much I know or don't know.That is why I deleted some parts of my letters |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 654556
4/11/2009 5:48 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Ok anyways Bill said in the interview he cannot release much info because he eventually wants it to be entered in the court of law.Bill said he feels his son was picked up by a vehicle & that the vehicle was seen several times in front of the bar his son was last at and at the port but can not get into more evidence on the vehicle.Religious holidays are of importance plus items of clothing & religious items taken from some of the victims, where other jewerly was still on the victim. Also Bill said 120 days in the water & Josh had hardley no decomposition on him. He said his son only had 5 beers in 2 1/2hours in 2 bars that's what josh friends told him. Bill thinks GHB was given to his son, it causes hot flashes & strange behavior like what was on the survalience tape at the bar. Kristi said if slipped GHB the system when recovered from the water it wouldn't show up in the autopsy unless their really looking for it & do the right test. Josh had 4-5 beers in his system autopsy said but through decomposition it creates it's own alcohol & it could be a little higher. GHB is processed out of the body pretty quickly usually detected in fluid of the eyeballs but by the time the body is found there is no fluid(which leads me to believe these killers have done their research.) There's no way of knowing said Bill it's almost the perfect crime. Kristi said even if it was there, alot of these drowning are written off as accidental. Bill says be conscience of your drinks if it doesn't come directly from the batrender consider it not a safe drink. He also says be puppies of being administrated with a syringe, college bars are elbow to elbow and if someone bumps you and you feel a prick don't think it's your clothing or nothing, you could have been drugged! I personally found that interesting about the syringe! Kristi says they have a former district attorney & a former federal agent looking at these cases. Bill thinks his son only got about 500 feet from the bar then he was picked up! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 654556
Sorry about the puppies part don't know how that got in there!LOL |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 654556
4/11/2009 5:54 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
you would most definatly feel a needle.you know theres a new way to inject medicine into people its like a gun and uses air pressure and you would not feel much at all. Quoting: cursed13 653279
Cursed, no I never heard of that but very interesting! I think what bill was saying is those bars are so cramed with kids that if someone wanted to stick you with a syringe it would be pretty easy, you would just feel a prick and not know where,or what or who it came from, especially if you already had a few beers and were already hot because it is so crowded in the bar! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 629667
4/11/2009 6:33 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Does any one know if brians predictions posted a drawing of any men somewhere?I would like to compare the pic with others Quoting: Anonymous Coward 626075
I wrote to Brian asking if he could add Dan Zamlen to his "missing persons list" but I have not heard anything back from him.
For some reason he tends to stay away from anything having to do with the sfkillers.
Even when he was actively working on the Brian Shaffer case, he didn't really acknowledge that the sfkillers could be a possiblity for how Brian went "missing" in the first place.
And then he also did some work on the Jessiah Jameson case but also never mentioned the sfkillers. Soooo.....right now I don't know what to think about briansprediction.com
I mean, we are not psychics,but we know something is going on,we know there are serial killers out there and we know when a young college man goes missing after last being seen at a bar or party with alcohol involved that it has something to do with the other cases.....I just think that Brian is afraid to touch on that topic. It could completely ruin his reputation. I wish he would respond to me though about Dan. You should try ot write him,too. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 629667
4/11/2009 7:02 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Oh and on Websleuths where Tricia's Tidbits are,I am the single mother that she is referring to......I wrote to her and asked her to come here and read the last 7 to 10 pages because there was a lot of info out there that she probably wouldn't allow to be posted on her site and I thought I'd also tell her what I thought about her site.
Anyway, here is the two responses I got from here
cut and pasted:
Why don't you get off your ass and run your own website instead of sitting on your ass bitching about other people. Take your own money and build it. Build on the Smilie Face Killers instead of bitching about what I do.
Nice example you set for your kid. Hide behind your keyboard and complain about others who are trying to help all the while you do nothing.
Let me see, you probably smoke 2 packs of cigarettes a day, with you kids in the house of course, sitting on your computer bitching all over the net about what other people do. I bet you scream at your kids all day too.
Hit a nerve didn't I.
If you dont' like the way I run my website DON"T READ THERE YOU TWIT. God, What an idiot.
Please, don't breed again. you are pathetic.
DO NOT EMAIL ME AGAIN. STOP HARASSING ME.
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From: <parrott25@yahoo.com>
To: Patricia Griffith <triciastidbits@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2009 7 00 PM
Subject: Re: Please go and read this site where you are mentioned more than once.
I was not the one talkiong about Blink that was someone else. I rarely even post there but whatever,I don't care what you think about me. I am entitled to my opinion just as you are.
And I'm in FL but if I were face to face with you,you better believe I'd say what was on my mind.
I'm a single mother looking to help in any way I can to find as much info as possible on the sfkillers.
Why aren't you making this a cover story so that you can bring attention to this? These young men need more voices speaking on their behalf. You think that you run a good site,well then bring more attention to this.
What about Dan Zamlen? He disappeared on April 5th and as he was talking on his cell phone and his friend heard him yell for help and then his voice grew distant and they saw his foot prints somewhat close to the Miss.river indicating that he was picked up. Why can't you bring attention to that?
Don't worry,I'll never email you agian.
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From: Patricia Griffith <triciastidbits@yahoo.com>
To: Jessica Parrott <parrott25@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2009 1:22:46 PM
Subject: Re: Please go and read this site where you are mentioned more than once.
Wow. But you seem to have confused something. Blink is not on Websleuths. She was banned a long time ago. She is on another forum.
It is so kind of you to send me this link. Did it make you feel good knowing I would go and read cruel comments about myself? Of course you did all of this hiding behind your keyboard. You would never say this to my face.
If hurting someone was your goal consider it a good day. You know nothing about me or what I deal with every day.
Please continue to hide and be cruel to people you don't know but remember, when someone is cruel to you or your loved ones it's Karma coming back at you.
Do not email me again.
And then for some reason, she felt like replying again with this:
PS. I don't have any restrictions on the SFK's on my forum at all. Again, you are reading the wrong forum.
Did it ever occur to you that rather than bitching and being so cruel that if you really wanted to help that maybe you could ask nicely?
See, that's how I know you are a joke. If you really wanted to do some good with this case you wouldn't be such a raging cruel bitch and actually reach out to other groups for help. Bring people together for a good cause. Why in the world wouldn't I offer to help someone with cases like this.
But it's all about you and your opinions. You have done nothing but bad and ugly things where this case is concerned. Good Job. Bet the families of these guys would be thrilled to know how you are "helping" their case. By being a total skank. Good Job. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 629667
4/11/2009 7:06 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
And sure Tricia can runWS however she wants but she has the power to bring some much needed attention to what's going on.
I mean,come on,Caylee Anthony's picture is the first thing you see on the front page of WS. Why can't she change it up and put somehting like this more out in the open instead of putting it on the backburner and putting down so far towards the end of the forum,most people just don't see that. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 653279
4/11/2009 7:11 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
And sure Tricia can runWS however she wants but she has the power to bring some much needed attention to what's going on.
I mean,come on,Caylee Anthony's picture is the first thing you see on the front page of WS. Why can't she change it up and put somehting like this more out in the open instead of putting it on the backburner and putting down so far towards the end of the forum,most people just don't see that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 629667 |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 653279
4/11/2009 7:13 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
And sure Tricia can runWS however she wants but she has the power to bring some much needed attention to what's going on.
I mean,come on,Caylee Anthony's picture is the first thing you see on the front page of WS. Why can't she change it up and put somehting like this more out in the open instead of putting it on the backburner and putting down so far towards the end of the forum,most people just don't see that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 653279 |
| cursed
User ID: 653279
4/11/2009 7:29 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
the site could always be run better.i was wondering why the same photo is on the homepage.maybe shes related to the family and the little girl is special to her/
i accidently double posted i was trying to fix something on ei.its fixed now. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 652154
4/11/2009 8:04 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Maybe they want to be the next Nancy Grace. (the women at websleuths) |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 652154
4/11/2009 8:09 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Jessa-I think you are a great dedicated friend to the Shaeffer memory, and of course all the victims. And sometimes you are also good at telling people the way it is. That is all. I admire you for that. You know how much you do in keeping this story alive.
Thanks |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 654556
4/11/2009 9:32 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
I'm watching America's Most Wanted, was wondering if they have ever done a segment on The Smiley Face Murders? Does anyone know? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 652154
4/12/2009 7:44 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Interesting in studying a bit about Berkowitz, when he was arrested a large wave of strange deaths occurred. When he admitted he was only a hit man for a larger group, someone in prison, slit his throat from behind. He politely asked to have this huge slit from left side to back sewed up and he never exposed the attacker. He then backed out of a deal to cooperate with a writer for an expose' of what he knew of how he became a hitman and who he was working for. Interestly, to me I read that he had been in the service, but asked for conscientious objector status, so the officers decided to give him acid. This information i think was obtained from a fellow soldier. Manson was also using a lot of acid. A female member of his family was in the church of satan.
Dulles was supposed to have purchased 50 million tabs of acid in 1956. Wasn't a CIA director. I know there were two Dulles brothers.
Son of Sam is also referred to as Son of Uncle Sam.
There is a Huge Satan Worshiping Network with Nazi ties at work. It is an umbrella group for "Satanic Killings" by the underlings. The purpose, what these people want, I couldn't tell you.
I have read that pedophilia, sex in all forms, cameras, mirrors involved that catch politicians "in the act". This would explain how lilly livered so many of them are. Power, Kissinger said is the "Ultimate Aphrodisic".
The upper echelons, the Bohemian Grove crowd were said to have at some time gotten a sacrificial 12 year old from a young man from Boystown and had gotten Hunter Thompson to film it. When this information started coming out during the trials in Omaha Nebraska, it may have been when Hunter Thompson died. "I'm not quite sure about why, when or how Hunter died, really."
I do know a brave young woman went to trial implicating everyone she could think of that used her body in their games. This Lawrence King flew the kids all over the country to the sick elite. He embezzled money from his savings and loan for the poor in Omaha to finance his side business of delivering children, some kidnapped, some from boystown. The brave girl, who had managed to escape, was dragged back in to testify against him and she is still sitting in jail in solitary confinement, to my understanding. She had a friend who had been a victim, that testified that the parties Larry King took them to, gave them any drug they wanted. conventions. He chose heroine. That might kill the pain of what these children went through for a while. This particular working mate of her's was shot and killed .
Read this book, Ultimate Evil, by Muary Terry. Some of this about the Network is in it. Batman recommended it to Boyinthemachine because he is such a non-believer in the motive of Satanism. Or at least his purpose in life seems to be to deny there is evidence just because the detectives won't give it to us.
Did you know Aliester Crowley was active in intelligence in Germany and I think here or England.
Please don't let this freak you out.
A little side note:
I personally think, Jeff Gannon/Guckert was a victim because he hasn't shared his DNA to prove/disprove Noreen Gosch is his true mother. Her son Johnny was kidnapped when he was 12 while he was doing his paper route. People or a person has been sending her pictures of him as a child and telling her he is alive and is being used in a sex ring. She says she can't tell if Gannon is her son but she did say he came to visit her in the late nineties. They might be protecting each other.
Are there any good guys left that can stop this madness without setting off a blood bath?
Happy Easter/Passover |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 629667
4/12/2009 8:18 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
I'm watching America's Most Wanted, was wondering if they have ever done a segment on The Smiley Face Murders? Does anyone know? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 654556
No, I don't think they ever did. I think some of us would've heard about it by now. Do you think they would feature a case like that if there is no actual suspect?
Just asking cause I don't watch much of America's Most Wanted. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 629667
4/12/2009 8:24 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Jessa-I think you are a great dedicated friend to the Shaeffer memory, and of course all the victims. And sometimes you are also good at telling people the way it is. That is all. I admire you for that. You know how much you do in keeping this story alive.
Thanks Quoting: Anonymous Coward 652154
preciate that......That woman just rubs me the wrong way but according to her I am someone who hides behind my keyboard while my 16 month old son runs around screaming all day.....whatever.
I just don't understand why they can't feature "the sfkiller" or "the river murders" (whatever they choose to call it).....even if it was for only a week or something.....Yeah, I understand that they do specialize it missing persons,especially children.......and that's all fine and good but there is a missing diabetic teenager who is probably,or possibly, in a coma or something far worse.
There just needs to be more of this info out for more of the public to know about.
Does anyone know how that petition is coming along?The one that they needed signatures for to start an FBI investigation into this... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 654556
4/12/2009 10:01 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
I'm watching America's Most Wanted, was wondering if they have ever done a segment on The Smiley Face Murders? Does anyone know?
No, I don't think they ever did. I think some of us would've heard about it by now. Do you think they would feature a case like that if there is no actual suspect?
Just asking cause I don't watch much of America's Most Wanted. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 629667
That would be the purpose of airing it, to get suspects. They have captured 1,064 bad people since it started! You should watch it, it's on every saturday night on Fox. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 654556
4/12/2009 10:04 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Jessa-I think you are a great dedicated friend to the Shaeffer memory, and of course all the victims. And sometimes you are also good at telling people the way it is. That is all. I admire you for that. You know how much you do in keeping this story alive.
Thanks
preciate that......That woman just rubs me the wrong way but according to her I am someone who hides behind my keyboard while my 16 month old son runs around screaming all day.....whatever.
I just don't understand why they can't feature "the sfkiller" or "the river murders" (whatever they choose to call it).....even if it was for only a week or something.....Yeah, I understand that they do specialize it missing persons,especially children.......and that's all fine and good but there is a missing diabetic teenager who is probably,or possibly, in a coma or something far worse.
There just needs to be more of this info out for more of the public to know about.
Does anyone know how that petition is coming along?The one that they needed signatures for to start an FBI investigation into this... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 629667
Hey all of you that are pissed off at that lady and her site, STAY AWAY from there, then you won't gets so stressed! peace |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
4/12/2009 11:21 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
I told Tricia more than once people were finding my blog with the links from her site.her only response was to ban me.shThere was o communication back except she was banning me even though I was sending her info also that she must have thoughy was unimportant.I am not going to spend all day making my case to convince one woman that owns a site I know what i am talking about.I probably know this case much better than her but can not even give them info through e mail.Now tell me who has the bad attitude? |
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