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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
4/12/2009 11:22 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
I agree stay away she is bad news and she did not ban Blink she shows as being inactive.Maybe she is out killing people |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
4/12/2009 11:38 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
I was going to explain how Brian Carrick after being abducted ended up in California with his body still well preserved nore tha a year later.
Notice the date of birth first.
Brian C. Carrick
Vital Statistics at Time of Disappearance
# Missing Since: December 20, 2002 from Johnsburg, Illinois
# Classification: Endangered Missing
# Date Of Birth: September 13, 1985
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she is banned btw
#12 12-22-2005, 05:02 PM
PonderingThings
Banned Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,753
Another case of I don't know.....
I was struck by how close the sketch looks to Brian... but there is very little information, and the height is off by 5". Age is right though. Also if he was as injured as they reported, how did he get from Illinois to California... and why?
Brian on Left, John Doe on right
[link to www.doenetwork.us]
Unidentified White Male
* The victim was discovered on April 3, 2004 in Northridge, Los Angeles County, California
* Skeletal Remains
* Formerly Hot Case # 42
Vital Statistics
* Estimated age: 15-23 years old
* Approximate Height and Weight: 5'4"; weight unknown.
Case History
The victim was located on a horse trail near 12100 Tampa Avenue in Northridge, California on April 3, 2004.
I haven't yet contacted anyone about this possible match.... what do you think?
from another banned member
I think the resemblance is very scary. It is possible. It could not hurt to contact the authorities. It is possible that he was killed in Johnsburg and his body taken to California. Especially if the delivery driver theory holds true. It is also possible he was taken by force and kept alive for whatever reason. Just a thought...
Tricia has probably done a lot of damage banning people that were on the right track.The height difference was probably a clerical error. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
4/12/2009 11:46 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Than there is Joshua Haight.The disapearance of him was about the same time as James Hobson.Do you notice a similarity?
The disapearance of the DJ that worked for the Vibe went missing about the same time as the guy that was at a bar called the Vibe.
Campbell and SOUmakis went missing aboput the same time.
The same last names sometimes repeat themselves and same numbers.
The most common number after 13 is 31 -of disappearances -even though many months do not have 31 days. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
4/12/2009 11:49 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
If Carrick is not the California body it could still be the same killer because he would haver looked like the other victim.Tricia ignores every thing I have to say. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
4/12/2009 11:56 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
and more from that site.
If they are right, he was beaten and killed in the back noncustomer storage area of the store and then moved and the boxes with the most blood put in the trash compacter to hide them from sight. Not sure if the body was placed in the produce cooler to keep it fresh while the rest of the shipment was unloaded (a refrigerated tuck would make an ideal way to transport a body away) or at least while the perps figured out what to do with the body but its a possibillity. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
4/12/2009 11:58 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
they were probably basicaly on the right track but someone may have technical knowledge and made their own refrigerated truck or van.The killers don't want a body stinking up their vehicle. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
4/12/2009 12:04 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
oh and if you think i have been looking for people missing on the 13th you would be wrong.I followed other clues that led me to them that had nothing to do with the number 13.
joshua haight went missing on the 13th and when I googled the name on a rock near the smiley face i found the number 13 again.A man missing in california. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 629667
4/12/2009 1:06 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
oh and if you think i have been looking for people missing on the 13th you would be wrong.I followed other clues that led me to them that had nothing to do with the number 13.
joshua haight went missing on the 13th and when I googled the name on a rock near the smiley face i found the number 13 again.A man missing in california. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 626075
Hey Cursed13 :
How did you come to pick that name,if you don't mind me asking.....Is it because of what you know about the case and the those numbers? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 629667
4/12/2009 1:21 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Here is what I got in response to an email I wrote briansprediction.com.
Actually here is the letter I wrote....it is a junk mail account and that is not my real name of course.
cut and pasted:
Hi Audry,
Brian will be working on this case next.
Debra
-----Original Message-----
From: Audry Meadows <auburn_eyes84@yahoo.com>
To: caseadmin@briansprediction.com; caseadmin@briansprediction.com
Sent: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 10:10 am
Subject: Missing endangerred person Dan Zamlen...type 1 diabetic......could go into a coma at any time!!!!!!Please help!!!!!
Hi Brian, Please,please,please can you start a new case with missing endangered person Dan Zamlen.
He is a type 1 diabetic and they fear that he could go into a coma at any time,if not already.
Please,I am begging you.
Here is an article I cut and pasted :
Dan Zamlen’s father is requesting more people to assist with the search for his son. At a news conference, Dale Zamlen expressed his fears that his son is on a rugged bank of the Mississippi River. Because Dan is a Type 1 diabetic, he is on an insulin pump and may be in a coma.
Yesterday, the University of St. Thomas requested that students stop their desperate search for the freshman. According to Minnesota Public Radi o, “They (St. Thomas officials) want students to stay away from the floodwaters there and to not disturb the area anymore, to make it easier for search dogs to work.”
The nightmare for Zamlen’s family and classmates began early Sunday morning. “Oh, my God. Where are you? Help.” Those are the last words Zamlen said before his cell phone went dead. Early in the morning on April 5, Dan was walking away from a party and talking to a friend who was coming to pick him up.
According to the Star Tribune, a bloodhound tracked Zamlen’s scent to his last known location and then the trail went cold. Zamlen is last believed to be near an intersection in St. Paul. It is a few blocks from the party he was attending. Friends tell local reporters that Zamlen may have been walking to a party on the University of Minnesota campus.
Dan is from Eveleth, MN and turns 19 today. Anyone with information is asked to call the university’s public safety department at 651-962-5555. Click here to read more.
By posting Dan’s information here, I’m not trying to imply that he is connected to any of the other cases.20 However, I know the best thing for a missing persons case is publicity. Click here for Dan’s website.
Please do what you can Brian. I am so scared as to what may have happened. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 654556
4/12/2009 2:01 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
they were probably basicaly on the right track but someone may have technical knowledge and made their own refrigerated truck or van.The killers don't want a body stinking up their vehicle. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 626075
I saw a show once(48 hrs or something like that) where a guy who was a truck driver kidnapped this women, took her home to his state where he lived with his mom. Got a uhaul or somekind of truck, put a freezer in it and backed it up in his driveway and kept it plugged in for 6 months . His mom was wondering why the electric bill was so high and finally decided to check the truck, his mom found the body of a missing women in the freezer, that's how he got caught, it turns out he was associated with several missing women from different states! Are these killers keeping some of these victims in a freezer or something like that for periods of time, then placing them in the water? That's why their not decomposed badley when they have been missing for a long time? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 654556
4/12/2009 2:21 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Than there is Joshua Haight.The disapearance of him was about the same time as James Hobson.Do you notice a similarity?
The disapearance of the DJ that worked for the Vibe went missing about the same time as the guy that was at a bar called the Vibe.
Campbell and SOUmakis went missing aboput the same time.
The same last names sometimes repeat themselves and same numbers.
The most common number after 13 is 31 -of disappearances -even though many months do not have 31 days. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 626075
I see what you saying with all the patterns, but why are the killers putting so much thought into it with all these patterns and such, why do you think their doing that, for fun or what or does it all means something as a whole? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
4/12/2009 7:33 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
oh and if you think i have been looking for people missing on the 13th you would be wrong.I followed other clues that led me to them that had nothing to do with the number 13.
joshua haight went missing on the 13th and when I googled the name on a rock near the smiley face i found the number 13 again.A man missing in california.
Hey Cursed13 :
How did you come to pick that name,if you don't mind me asking.....Is it because of what you know about the case and the those numbers? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 629667
I think you are confusing me with cursed.I am the guy that did all the work with the Trane Theory including the class schedule.
They are trying to get themselves noticed but in a subtle way as to mock law enforcement.If they did every murder exactly the same they would not get away with this for so long.This is why we have micro patterns that make obvious connections to other micro patterns.This time of year they may be using a boat.Anyone near water needs to be wary. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
4/12/2009 7:38 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
But anyway the killer seems to use other numbers besides 13 to create a pattern but 13 seems to be the number that has a special meaning.The other numbers are just their way of proving their existance.
I have to say that Blink suggesting someone is hiding behind a keyboard is very strange.I doubt many people in her position that have people posting about crimes would even suggest in an offhanded way that you should not be some anonymous poster behind a keyboard.That seems rather sick to me.I am sure she has to deal with harsh comments but she crossed a line I would never cross.i would encourage hiding behind a keyboard.she probably can relate to Blink because she is so much like herself |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
4/12/2009 7:40 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
I think I should have said Jacob Hobson instead of James but I am doing this from memory right now.Pretty soon I will probably be talking about puppies |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 629667
4/12/2009 7:47 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Hey 075 I didn't mean to qoute you. I didn't realizing I was anyway. That was directed at Cursed13.
My fault. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 629667
4/12/2009 7:48 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
oh and if you think i have been looking for people missing on the 13th you would be wrong.I followed other clues that led me to them that had nothing to do with the number 13.
joshua haight went missing on the 13th and when I googled the name on a rock near the smiley face i found the number 13 again.A man missing in california.
Hey Cursed13 :
How did you come to pick that name,if you don't mind me asking.....Is it because of what you know about the case and the those numbers?
I think you are confusing me with cursed.I am the guy that did all the work with the Trane Theory including the class schedule.
They are trying to get themselves noticed but in a subtle way as to mock law enforcement.If they did every murder exactly the same they would not get away with this for so long.This is why we have micro patterns that make obvious connections to other micro patterns.This time of year they may be using a boat.Anyone near water needs to be wary. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 626075
And I,too have been posting for a while but my son has been pretty sick this week so I haven't posted as much...sometimes I as posting as Jessa25_FL . |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 655350
4/12/2009 7:50 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Real Life Conspiracy: Randy Leach (disappeared 04-15-1988)
i was reading this thread which forced me to revisit this scenario (not saying are related in any way)
My own personal account:
(note beforehand. just a few minutes ago, i googled 'randy leach' and was shocked to see the name listed as a witness AND INFORMANT)
i was about 16 years old, in 1990. i hung around a friend on a regular basis after school and on weekends, i wanna say he was 20ish. we also were friends with this girl, and one time we were discussing the leach disappearance. she was of the mindset that every question came answers from her in the form of 'im not going to go to the police as im afraid'.
according to her, there was a party down by the stranger caves just northeast of tonganoxie in a rural area. i had previously been to this area as our church pastor and family, owned the property across the road from this location and would hold sunrise service on his property each Easter. she states (mind you, at the time, she was about 12-13 years old, that there was a party (her older sister was about 18 and i assume thru her connections this girl somehow ended up at the party), and that there was a mixture of people she believed to be that of satanic worshipers. i seen the fear in her face as she spoke of the situation. i felt she was telling the truth, but thats not to say her truth was the real truth..... just what she saw and overheard. after these revelations, me and this friend of mine, john(ny)smith, were nosey, so we went to the area described......mind you, this is a couple years later, but before i graduated in 1992.......
in the area described we found two things that were 'eerie'
1) there was a distant drum beat, muffled even: its about 5pm this evening, just started getting dark. it wasnt like it was a kid practicing on his drums but rather like a 'metered beat'
2) there was a dead dog lying in the brush about 40 yards in from the nearest dirt road. at first look, it just appeared another dead animal. we rolled the carcass and it was split from its sternum down to its anus, and was completely gutted.
we did look in the caves, but there was nothing IMO 'suspect' (this cave was only about six foot deep into the cliff overlooking the shallow stranger creek, and people over the years would park on the bridge, and use the cave to hang and drink beers.
so after mulling it over for a day or two, we decided to report the female friend to the tonganoxie police.
the police took our statements, and did in fact speak with the girl....... she never spoke to us again from this point.
***at this point, i, as i was involved in working after school and such, pretty much let the situation go. i was no longer hanging with johnny as he had betrayed me and several others in our circle.***
then a local KU student wrote a play about the disappearance. about a year later/ago, i was into updating my myspace friends and had found 'her' and added to my list. Mind you, this is what, about 15 plus years later. we briefly exchanged messages on myspace. it had to be around april of last year or in and around because one night i had a few beers and decided, with the media attention it was getting locally to again call the sherrifs dept and 'remind them of this girl'....... soon after, i was removed from her myspace list.
i have no doubt she was contacted again, found the timing ironic and is now not interested in being on my 'friends list'
this is all that i know about the situation 'personally'. but what i found on the google search is rather interesting. the following links is what i found.
(you will find there is no secret within these links that the speculation of satanic worship was a big topic)
[link to www.randyleach.com] (theories)
[link to leavenworthscandal.com] (former officer makes accusations about elected officials)
[link to www.eat.ku.edu] (KU student writes 'Leaves of words')
[link to www.missingchildrenblog.com] (details on website)
[link to www.crh.noaa.gov] (map of area: shows relative distance to the area mapped out in above link to the bonner springs, linwood area. these two towns are just east of tongie/basehor by about five minutes drive)
[link to abyss.kgs.ku.edu] (the caves are located just around the bend in this pic, to the right. from there, about a hundred yards north west is where sunrise service would take place. i believe this picture may have been taken FROM the stranger creek bridge.)
[link to linwood.mykansaslibrary.org] (this bridge: on the other side, to the north is where the dog carcass was found. behind the cameraman and to the left (north) is where the caves are.
i personally, no longer live in the USA as i found that the woman of my dreams lives in australia, but every april for some strange reason, the name always pops in my head.
all i can say is this, it was/is a huge story for those of us who grew up in tonganoxie (linwood is such a small town, the few that did live there, would cruise our town, and many were friends.) its been showcased on john walsh's show. and countless times in the local media.
i can tell you, if it werent for our jaunt out to that land described by 'her' and hadnt seen the dead dog, and heard the drumbeat, i would be just another 'looking in from the outside' but that day proved to me, along with her accounts and several accounts since then, that this WAS IN FACT A MURDER, AND THAT WHOEVER DID IT, IS INTO SOME SORT OF RITUALISTIC VENTURES.
*****IF YOU NOTICE ALSO, THE LAST PERSON TO SEE RANDY ALIVE IS NOW DEAD (NOT SURE OF THE CAUSE, BUT EVEN NATURAL CAUSES STATE THE OBVIOUS: EVEN STRESS FROM KNOWING SOMETHING YOUR NOT SUPPOSED TO, OR THE BURDEN ON ONESELF FROM A SITUATION LIKE THIS CAN LEAD TO DEATH BY STRESS OR SUICIDED***** |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 629667
4/12/2009 7:56 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
But anyway the killer seems to use other numbers besides 13 to create a pattern but 13 seems to be the number that has a special meaning.The other numbers are just their way of proving their existance.
I have to say that Blink suggesting someone is hiding behind a keyboard is very strange.I doubt many people in her position that have people posting about crimes would even suggest in an offhanded way that you should not be some anonymous poster behind a keyboard.That seems rather sick to me.I am sure she has to deal with harsh comments but she crossed a line I would never cross.i would encourage hiding behind a keyboard.she probably can relate to Blink because she is so much like herself Quoting: Anonymous Coward 626075
It wasn't Blink that wrote those hate-filled letters to me it was Tricia and I didn't even post the meanest one because she mentions my son and was a very low blow to say the least....saying I'm hiding behind my keyboard when she begins to talk shit about my son.
She's even talking about it on her tidbits column......the same column she uses to talk about taco bell and everything else she eats that makes her the blob she is.
By the way,before I cause people to get pissed at me,don't forget she talked about my son and you just don't do that.
She runs a missing forum that features kids so that just made me furious. I can continue this rant but we should just drop talking about her. WS doesn't even deserve to be spoken of here as far as I'm concerned. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
4/12/2009 8:00 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
they were probably basicaly on the right track but someone may have technical knowledge and made their own refrigerated truck or van.The killers don't want a body stinking up their vehicle.
I saw a show once(48 hrs or something like that) where a guy who was a truck driver kidnapped this women, took her home to his state where he lived with his mom. Got a uhaul or somekind of truck, put a freezer in it and backed it up in his driveway and kept it plugged in for 6 months . His mom was wondering why the electric bill was so high and finally decided to check the truck, his mom found the body of a missing women in the freezer, that's how he got caught, it turns out he was associated with several missing women from different states! Are these killers keeping some of these victims in a freezer or something like that for periods of time, then placing them in the water? That's why their not decomposed badley when they have been missing for a long time? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 654556
I think so.I guess it could be a freezer.Maybe not for every murder.I think that is a method that was repeated as well as a fake cab and the use of women.Maybe some with a boat.Drownings from a boat could easily be dismissed as accidents.It may have occurred more than we know.I doubt they were using a boat in winter,but no one knows.They could have a submarine for all we know.Nothing would surprise me at this point.They put a lot of time and effort into their murders . |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
4/12/2009 8:10 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
ok i meant to say Tricia or puppies or something else but the poin t is she obviously is selfish and on a power trip.She needs some good mental health so you can't take her seriously.She is sick.It is normal for emotions to run high considering what is at stake .I don't consider her opinion to be significant,i just don't like what she said to you .I already know she does not like constructive criticism so she can ban all she wants for all I care.I just don't want people getting hurt because of her mental problems and lack of concern for others because she is on a power trip.. I can be harsh but i don't believe in hurting people if there is no reason. |
| Beantowns baddest
User ID: 655785
4/12/2009 8:11 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
When this is all said and done, it will be a long haul trucker doing this I believe, no gang, or no Satanic cult. Someone would have come forward now if it was a gang or cult. It is a man and woman crossing the country killing these kids I believe..
"I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister" |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 629667
4/12/2009 8:20 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
ok i meant to say Tricia or puppies or something else but the poin t is she obviously is selfish and on a power trip.She needs some good mental health so you can't take her seriously.She is sick.It is normal for emotions to run high considering what is at stake .I don't consider her opinion to be significant,i just don't like what she said to you .I already know she does not like constructive criticism so she can ban all she wants for all I care.I just don't want people getting hurt because of her mental problems and lack of concern for others because she is on a power trip.. I can be harsh but i don't believe in hurting people if there is no reason. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 626075
Oh then you prolly meant puppies :) |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
4/12/2009 8:33 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
I like puppies.We need a puppy thread |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 655872
4/12/2009 10:44 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Ok , enough with the puppies, i heard my dogs bark and were ready to come in while i was posting, so i must have wrote puppies!LOL |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 399421
4/12/2009 10:53 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
From Bill & Kristi's interview an above poster said that Bill says there is a white supremacy and anti-Christian element to the killings.
I can understand the anti-Christian due to the missing Christian jewelry and the water being the "reverse" of baptism.
But why is Bill saying a white supremacy element? Most all of the young men are white.
Does anyone have any ideas how the white supremacy element ties in? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 655890
4/12/2009 11:36 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
From Bill & Kristi's interview an above poster said that Bill says there is a white supremacy and anti-Christian element to the killings.
I can understand the anti-Christian due to the missing Christian jewelry and the water being the "reverse" of baptism.
But why is Bill saying a white supremacy element? Most all of the young men are white.
Does anyone have any ideas how the white supremacy element ties in? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 399421
I don't get that either. Unless maybe they are jealous white supremacists that want to kill more intelligent, perhaps wealthier, perhaps more going for them boys.
Maybe the white supremacist stuff is just another thing that ties them together. I remember Gannon adn Duarte saying last year that the group were involved with other illegal activities. It's difficult to say why Szostak said that.
I keep waiting for this case to break and SOMETHING to be done so we can all finally find out exactly what the hell is going on. I think there are many more clues and evidence that we jsut aren't seeing/hearing about. It sucks. I feel like i have been waiting forever! I can't imagine how the families of the victims feel...
How many more dead boys will it take?
I would think the Geib case would have raised some concerns. I mean, who drowns with their shoulders and head above water, stationary?
And one of the LaCrosse victims, who folds all their clothing tidily and places it under a park statue then drowns in the river?
Too tragic, too many dead. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
4/13/2009 11:18 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
I kind of agree with Bill in a way.They may be white but they see the world in a certain way.They see religion and politics converging together as part of the New world Order.That is why they often would pick white and higher profile young men that are christians..Some of them probably come from blue collar type families and each individual may have different motivation but they may see things as I have stated.I suspect there may be one or more persons that family has their own sucessfull business.It is probably a small company with less than 20 employees and probably near Chicago.That is why I believe Quintel Inc is a likley candidate.They work all over the country.
Why small?because only a few people have to keep their mouth shut and not make the connection to the deaths of young men.
Why near Chicago you ask?
Because Glen Leadly went to work for Axiter a company that is a major supplier for Trane corporation.They would also have parts that contractors need.
Quintel inc is near Chicago in NW Indiana ,and if someone worked there they would have much of the same technical knowledge as an air conditioning technician.They ship all over the country,they are a small company,they have technical knowledge.They are also located far south enough that they would have an incentive to take a class in Tennessee,rather than in LaCrosse or ST Paul.They are just off 41 which goes directly to the city of Clarksville where they could have taken a class.
Keep in mind this is just an educated guess. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
4/13/2009 11:27 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Keep in mind that axiter is also a possible connection,but
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Francis Bacon's work is almost at hand. The Ancient Mysteries are being studied for illumination
and enlightenment by the New World Order's elite. Not to mention the New Age gurus -- dutifully
recruiting on behalf of the Secret Brotherhood.
In 1980, Marylin Ferguson compiled and espoused a synthesis involving the theories of
transformation and the secret plan of the Aquarian Age. In her studies of the scientific
advancements of this age involving entropy and syntropy, holism, holographs, paradigm shifts,
the uncertainty principle and evolution, she discovered that, "for the first time an American
renaissance is taking place in all disciplines, breaking the boundaries between them, transforming
them at their farthest reaches--where they all converge." (The Aquarian Conspiracy p.12)BOUGHT AND PAID FOR BY ROCKEFELLER FOUNDATION This is how mind control is done.This is how public opinion is created from the top down.Get some goofy professor and pay for what you want..
Speaking of the networks and web of influence, Ferguson proclaimed: "There are legions of
conspirators... in corporations, universities, hospitals, on the faculties of public schools, in
factories, in doctors' offices, in state and federal agencies, on city councils and the White House
staff, in state organizations, in virtually all arenas of policy making in the country
[U.S.]...[including] at the cabinet level of the United States Government." (ibid. p.24) However,
other New Age proponents said that this is inaccurate, in that she had understated the influence
of the New Age worldwide, especially in the UN and the EEC.
It is no coincidence that America has become the center of New Age and New World Order
conspiracies. The Theosophical and Rosicrucian traditions hold that every nation has a spiritual
destiny guided by a hierarchy of beings using all ethical (or un-ethical) means of manifesting the
"divine plan" through the will of the nation's leaders.
A proponent of the New Age and the Secret Brotherhood's plan for a New World Order is Robert
Hieronimus. In his book America's Secret Destiny, he traced the spiritual vision of America's
founding fathers and the plan's eventual fruition in what we call the New World Order and the
New Age Movement (both of which are synonymous). He stresses that the founding fathers of
America had the equivalent of "Masters" and were pupils in a sense, much like today's powerful
Elite have Masters and Gurus, following the teachings of the Great Plan.
According to the Rosicrucians and Theosophists, supporting the divine plan are great beings
referred to as masters of the physical and spiritual planes. The evolution of America owes much
to the seed thoughts of four masters--Kuthumi, El Morya, Rogoczy, and Djwhal Khul. Some of
the founders of America may have been consciously or unconsciously students of these teachers,
just as some contemporary Americans are pupils of these masters. In fact, the motto of the
hierarchy of world teachers is identical with America's destiny--the brotherhood of man and the
Fatherhood of God. (p. 95)
Another writer, from the opposite camp, confirms the assertions of Heironimus. Willy Peterson
writes:
In order to reach their aims of world unity and thus engage the whole world in service to the
Plan, "enlightened" Freemasons and New Agers have been pushing for collectivist motifs that
promote monistic pantheism and unity. This is why the chief instigators to the globalist League of
Nations and the United Nations have been Theosophists, trying to work out the plan. This is why
the verbiage and aims at the U.N. is for world peace and brotherhood. It is a spiritual
undertaking in a secular world. Lucis Trust has had three think-tanks located at the U.N. Plaza in
New York for around fifty years. No wonder the former Assistant Secretary General to the U.N.,
Robert Muller, is a devoted disciple of Alice Bailey, whose book, A Treatise on White Magic, forms
the basis for the Robert Muller schools. (The Leavening)
These people are called the torchbearers or lightbearers of the New World Order. A spiritual plan
that has been traced to the time of Nimrod and the Tower of Babel, up through to the Illuminati
and onwards. "A loosely-knit world conspiracy," David Allen Lewis writes, "a so called Network of
Illuminists." "Whether the Illuminati has one special organization that is its orginal descendant...
we can be very sure that its philosophical torchbearers are represented by literally hundreds of
organizations and individuals in many diverse realms." (Dark Angels of Light)
A Blueprint For Destiny
Robert Heironomus says that "America's Great Seal may be seen as a blueprint for the elevation
of consciousness. It says, in part, that we must transform ourselves before we can change the
world, and that it is during the process of self-transformation that we can catch a glimpse of
what part we are to play in national and global transformation."
The mandala of the New World Order and Illuminati control. "Annuit Coeptis--He has Blessed our
Beginning", "Novus Ordo Seclorum--New Order of the Ages". The All-Seeing Eye of Horus, the
resurrected Egyptian Sun God, biblically refered to as Lucifer, the angel of light.
In occult doctrine it is thought that "from the union of spirit and matter (the pyramid is made of
stone, rock, and earth--and represents the unconscious. The capstone is made of an immaterial
substance--light or spirit--and is conscious), a new being--a transformed being--is created. The
seal's reverse depicts a separation state in the separation of the eye the triangle."
"The pyramid exemplifies the initiation stage,... it is the house of initiation, in which the
candidate confronts the world of darkness and enters the world of spirit. By passing the tests of
the elements, the candidate is initiated into the realm of higher consciousness." (Heironimus
ibid., p.92) After succesfully completing the initiation process, the candidate is reborn, and joins
the single eye in the pyramid.
The New World Order, or rather the philosophy its deliverers hold to be true, is one and the same
as the New Age ideal of man's divinity and self-transformation. In order to partake in this gnostic
fufillment of "The Great Plan" one must awaken to the original sin of Lucifer, as proposed to Eve
in the Garden of Eden, that "we can be as Gods." (Gen. 3:5) So it is not suprising to find that
Christians, specifically, are cited as the main obstacle hindering the success of this New Age-New
World Order.
The reason for this, is the New Age belief in many "saviors" and "enlightened teachers", masters
and gurus--its all good and fine when the goal is the false teaching of man's divinity. The New
Agers see many ways to salvation; Christians proclaim that there is only one Way - Jesus Christ.
"For the gate is small, and narrow that leads to life, and few are those who find it." (Matt. 7:14)
The Bible states that this is in reality the "broad way that leads to destruction, and many are
those who enter it." (Matt. 7:13) Therefore, the only religion not compatible with The New Age,
and hence the coming New World Order, is the belief and strict adherence in the Word God -
with traditional Christianity being looked upon as particularly pernicious.
In Dark Secrets of the New Age, Texe Marrs wrote:
The New Age is a universal open-arms religion that excludes from its ranks only those who
believe in Jesus Christ and a Personal God. Buddhists, Shintoist, Satanists, Secular Humanists,
witches, witch doctors and shamans -- All who reject Christianity are invited to become trusted
members of the New Age family. Worshippers of separate faiths and denominations are to be
unified in a common purpose: THE GLORIFICATION OF MAN.
The Guardians of the Mysteries
Freemasonry, by its own accord, practices the ancient mysteries of Egypt, and has as a primary
goal, the re-instatement of this mystery religion for the coming World Order.
The magical mystery religion of Ancient Egypt exercised a great fascination over Renaissance
man, which was incorporated into--the newly formed--Lodges at that time. The mysterious
heiroglyphs were considered to be symbols of hidden knowledge. Symbols and gestures became
a means of conveying secrets and "truths". The cosmos was seen as an organic unity. It was
peopled by a hierarchy of spirits which exercised all kinds of influences and sympathies. The
practice of magic became a holy quest.
Back in 1927, Freemason W.L. Wilmhurst saw the dawning of the Aquarian Age as the fufillment
of the "Plan". In The Meaning of Masonry, p.4, he writes:
In this new Aquarian age, when many individuals and groups are working in various ways for the
eventual restoration of the mysteries, an increasing number of aspirants are beginning to
recognize that Freemasonry may well be the vehicle for this achievement
He would be well proud, I'm sure, of today's mainstream acceptance of those very same occult
mysteries. Another passage on page 46-47, proves the teaching of Freemasonry is the same as
New Age beliefs:
He begins his Masonic career as the natural man; he ends it by becoming through its discipline, a
regenerated man... This the evolution of man into superman--was always the purpose of the
ancient Mysteries, and the real purpose of modern Masonry is, not the social and charitable
purposes to which so much attention is paid, but the expediting of the spiritual evolution of those
who aspire to perfect their own nature and transform it into a more god-like quality.
Freemasonry, through its mysteries, will soon usher in a New World Religion for the New World
Order. A modern day Tower of Babel and the ultimate unification of the world's religions. The
New Age welcomes these goals and looks to the "light" of Masonry as its esoteric basis for occult
initiation into the New World Order. Benjamin Creme writes:
The New Religion will manifest, for instance,through organizations like Masonry. In Freemasonry
is embedded the core or the secret heart of the occult mysteries, wrapped up on number,
metaphor and symbol...
(The Reappearance of the Christ and the Masters of Wisdom p.87)
Freemason and co-founder of Lucifer Publishing Company (now called Lucis Trust), Foster Bailey,
concurs, "Is it not possible from a contemplation of this side of Masonic teaching that it may
provide all that is necessary for the formulation of a universal religion?"(The Spirit of Masonry
p.113) Foster Bailey states that Masonry "is the descendant of, or is founded upon, a divinely
imparted religion..." This religion he explains, "...was the first United World Religion. Then came
the era of separation of many religions and sectarianism. Today we are working again towards a
World Universal Religion." (ibid p.31)
To biblical students these are shocking admissions and it adds fuel to the charge of a Masonic
Antichrist in our midst. "It is these Mysteries which Christ will restore upon His reapearance,"
Alice Bailey reveals, "thus reviving the churches in a new form, and restoring the hidden
Mystery." (The Reappearance of the Christ, p. 122) Bailey is giving these "revelations" by her
channeled Master Djwhal Khul -- a disembodied "Ascended Master". Her "Christ" is indeed the
Antichrist in the strictest sense of the word. Antichrist means substitute for or in place of Christ.
She goes on to say that "These ancient Mysteries were originally given to humanity by the
Hierarchy [of which Djwhal Khul is a part of] and contain the entire clue to the evolutionary
process, hidden in numbers, in ritual, in words and in symbology; these veil the secret of man's
origin and destiny, picturing to him in rite and ritual, the long, long path which he must tread,
back into the light." (ibid, p.121-22)
So what do we have here:
The New Age tells its disciples that they are working for the Hierarchy.
The teachings of the New Age are giving by the Hierarchy.
The movement for the installment of the Antichrist is giving the go-ahead by the Hierarchy --
Djwhal Khul's number one message for New Age disciples is "prepare men for the reappearance
of the Christ. This is your first duty." (The Externalization of the Hierarchy, p.614)
The Ancient Mysteries, being practiced by both Freemasonry and the New Age, were giving to
humanity by the Hierarchy.
The real purpose of Masonry -- taught to man, from the Hierarchy -- is the expediting of the
spiritual evolution, to transform their nature into a god-like superman.
The Serpent caused the Fall in the Garden of Eden by giving Eve this very same message.
"Man is a god in the making. And as the mystic myths of Egypt, on the potter's wheel, he is being
molded. When his light shines out to lift and preserve all things, he receives the triple crown of
godhood." (Manly P. Hall, The Lost Keys of Freemasonry, p. 92)
"European mysticism was not dead at the time the United States of America was founded. The
hand of the mysteries controlled in the establishment of the new government for the signature of
the mysteries may still be seen on the Great Seal of the United states of America. Careful analysis
of the seal discloses a mass of occult and masonic symbols chief among them, the so-called
American Eagle. ... the American eagle upon the Great Seal is but a conventionalised phoenix..."
"Not only were many of the founders of the United States government Masons, but they received
aid from a secret and august body existing in Europe which helped them to establish this country
for A PECULIAR AND PARTICULAR PURPOSE known only to the intiated few." (Manly P. Hall, The
Secret Teachings of All Ages, pp. XC and XCI)
If you study very carefully you will see that most all of our corporate logo's,money and car emblems have occult symbols on them.Simplist to see are the ram on Dodge trucks, and the rams head on the Toyota emblem are the head of the Baphomet.You have rappers giving masonic handshakes and the one eyed masonic signs. The MTV awards are all masonic rituals.If you can't see that you haven't done your homework.The backwards masking on Albums is a way of casting spell to make them more powerful according to Alister Crowley......
Go to Google video's and see Tex Marrs video on it. |
| Anonymous Coward
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A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly. But the traitor moves among those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the galleys, heard in the very hall of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor--he speaks in the accents familiar to his victims, and wears their face and their garment, and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation--he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city--he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared.......Cicero, 42 B.C.E. |
| Anonymous Coward
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4/13/2009 2:21 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
From Bill & Kristi's interview an above poster said that Bill says there is a white supremacy and anti-Christian element to the killings.
I can understand the anti-Christian due to the missing Christian jewelry and the water being the "reverse" of baptism.
But why is Bill saying a white supremacy element? Most all of the young men are white.
Does anyone have any ideas how the white supremacy element ties in? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 399421
I have asked myself the same question, but it just occured to me maybe some of the victoms were jewish?
even though christian by relgion they could have been born jewish? |
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