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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
4/16/2009 10:13 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
tennguy-is anyone in touch with him? Haven't heard from him but he does go a long time between posts here. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 652154
I am here.I don't have a lot of time to stay and chat.Someone added something new to the list of names on a rock near where the smiley face used to be |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 626075
4/16/2009 11:22 AM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Why do so many here use anonymouscoward? Has anyone checked out this thread on topix [ link to www.topix.com]
Does anyone think sfk could be a baptismal type ritual?
Don't let anyone intimidate you on these boards,your opinion is as good as anyone's.
I found detroit a long time ago when I was checking for possible name similarites. |
| Jessa_FL
User ID: 629667
4/16/2009 12:01 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
This is cut and pasted from here :
[link to www.websleuths.com]
New article out today in the OSU student paper:
Is Brian Shaffer alive?
Missing med student might be alive, attorney says; brother suspects best friend has knowledge of incident that happened three years ago
More at link...
[link to media.www.thelantern.com]
But then there was this so maybe Clint is making it up
cut & pasted
Very interesting article from The Lantern, but I dont think he is still alive. If Clint's lawyer is saying he is still alive, that is just Clint wiggling out of taking a lie detector test. If he has nothing to hide he needs to tell what he knows.
The above link is no longer working. Sorry.
Last Edited by Jessa_FL on 4/16/2009 at 12:03 PM |
| Jessa_FL
User ID: 629667
4/16/2009 2:43 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
interesting site could be useful
The Yellowstone River (and the park named for it) derives from the Siouan word mitsiadazi. Similarly, Yellow Medicine County, Minnesota, is the English translation of the name of a yellow plant also called moonseed (Menispermum canadense) that grows in that area. Yellowknife, the capital of the Northwest Territories, is the English translation of a Dene (Athabascan) name for the native people who lived there and carried knives made of a yellowish native copper they mined in the north.
[link to www.manataka.org] |
| Jessa_FL
User ID: 629667
4/16/2009 2:45 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
The following was cut & pasted from another blog :
Anonymous said...
YELLOW MEDICINE RIVER
YELLOH
TODD GRIEB ONLY REPORTED PHYSICAL SYMPTOMS!!
HALF MOON LAKE 4 FOUND DROWNED THERE
MOONSEED THE CRESCENT MOON POISON
DATE RAPE DRUG
PARALYISIS
FIXED EYES
BREATHING DIFFICULTIES
FLEXIBLE BODIES
EVENTUALLY FATAL |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 629667
4/16/2009 2:56 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
systematic bumping of the lame. Quoting: dalak 649520
Hey screw you jerk.
I've been contributing a LOT to this thread,ask anyone.
I was having problems getting my post to say nosaj backwords but I could'nt understand why it would let me.
Didn't realize that the sript or something is bad.
I am decent on the computer but I am learning slowly.
Just bear with me and try not to be mean.......I have enough of that crap here at home with my family.
Thanks |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 629667
4/16/2009 2:59 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
The following was cut & pasted from another blog :
Anonymous said...
YELLOW MEDICINE RIVER
YELLOH
TODD GRIEB ONLY REPORTED PHYSICAL SYMPTOMS!!
HALF MOON LAKE 4 FOUND DROWNED THERE
MOONSEED THE CRESCENT MOON POISON
DATE RAPE DRUG
PARALYISIS
FIXED EYES
BREATHING DIFFICULTIES
FLEXIBLE BODIES
EVENTUALLY FATAL Quoting: Jessa_FL 629667
You reading what I am?! "Flexible Bodies"
Well, whether they are torturing them psychological, or sexually or both....or performing experiments on them,again also....psychological or maybe they are testing drugs on them....some kind of new drug maybe....something that may not be noticeable in a regular autopsy but if they REALLY look for it then maybe they could find it....I heard something about it being possible to detect GHB in the fluid in the eye socket...I am not saying that GHB is something that is used or not....it seems that maybe Saostak was on GHB,which can easily be slipped into unwatched drinks,you wouldn't be none the wiser to it.
I just saying that the possibilities are carzy to say the least. Cused and I have been talking on Skype and we were talking about the abductors(sfks)could be taking some to Canada. Who knows at this point .
Oh, by the way, 652154 and 626075 if you want to instant msg each other on Skype(it's very easy to download,very easy to use)you can email me at the email address under my profile but that particular one is a junk one anyway. And then we can compare note like I've been doing with Cursed13. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 652154
4/16/2009 3:39 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Regarding skype-I'll look into it.
Jess-thanks for the links about Brian. Interesting. From some of your other research I can imagine that he could be alive, yet he probably couldn't do such a thing to his father. Wierd stuff going on.
I'll have to try to fix my email. I can get them but can't send. I know it's something simple and my provider will be helpful.
Thanks to 075 for checking in.
My pet chicken was ravaged by s raccoon 2 nites ago. I worked to save her but she perished yesterday afternoon. At least she didn't die in terror. I love birds. Even though they have tiny little brains, they are sure fun. I'm trying not to FEEL my loss right now. Maybe later.
L |
| JessaFL
User ID: 629667
4/16/2009 4:49 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Okay. Sorry about that. I hope you feel better. |
| cursed13
User ID: 656708
4/16/2009 5:50 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
it could be a drug that the authorities cannot release to the public.you know at certain hospitals if they find certain chemicals/drugs in you they cannot tell you.
Last Edited by cursed13 on 4/16/2009 at 5:50 PM |
| cursed13
User ID: 656708
4/16/2009 5:56 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Regarding skype-I'll look into it.
Jess-thanks for the links about Brian. Interesting. From some of your other research I can imagine that he could be alive, yet he probably couldn't do such a thing to his father. Wierd stuff going on.
I'll have to try to fix my email. I can get them but can't send. I know it's something simple and my provider will be helpful.
Thanks to 075 for checking in.
My pet chicken was ravaged by s raccoon 2 nites ago. I worked to save her but she perished yesterday afternoon. At least she didn't die in terror. I love birds. Even though they have tiny little brains, they are sure fun. I'm trying not to FEEL my loss right now. Maybe later.
L Quoting: Anonymous Coward 652154
why couldnt he do such a thing to his father.thats stupid. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 652154
4/16/2009 6:34 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
to cursed13 --why couldnt he do such a thing to his father.thats stupid.
I'm sorry. that wasn't clear enough. For example-if a child of yours that regularly was in contact with you just vanished, you would worry terribly. It would be almost unbearable for you. So what I meant to say was that I doubt Brian Shaffer would run off on his own, disappear and start a new life, because I would expect that because he was a grown man, he would consider his father's feelings. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 658284
4/16/2009 6:36 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
The following was cut & pasted from another blog :
Anonymous said...
YELLOW MEDICINE RIVER
YELLOH
TODD GRIEB ONLY REPORTED PHYSICAL SYMPTOMS!!
HALF MOON LAKE 4 FOUND DROWNED THERE
MOONSEED THE CRESCENT MOON POISON
DATE RAPE DRUG
PARALYISIS
FIXED EYES
BREATHING DIFFICULTIES
FLEXIBLE BODIES
EVENTUALLY FATAL Quoting: Jessa_FL 629667
Jessa i think you might be on to something, very interesting! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 658284
4/16/2009 6:37 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
systematic bumping of the lame.
Hey screw you jerk.
I've been contributing a LOT to this thread,ask anyone.
I was having problems getting my post to say nosaj backwords but I could'nt understand why it would let me.
Didn't realize that the sript or something is bad.
I am decent on the computer but I am learning slowly.
Just bear with me and try not to be mean.......I have enough of that crap here at home with my family.
Thanks Quoting: Anonymous Coward 629667
Don't worry about jerks, no sweat! |
| cursed13
User ID: 656708
4/16/2009 6:52 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
to cursed13 --why couldnt he do such a thing to his father.thats stupid.
I'm sorry. that wasn't clear enough. For example-if a child of yours that regularly was in contact with you just vanished, you would worry terribly. It would be almost unbearable for you. So what I meant to say was that I doubt Brian Shaffer would run off on his own, disappear and start a new life, because I would expect that because he was a grown man, he would consider his father's feelings. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 652154
thats not always the case.many peole move on in life and seperate theirselves from their parents and families.not everyone can FEEL.
Last Edited by cursed13 on 4/16/2009 at 6:53 PM |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 658284
4/16/2009 6:52 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
The following was cut & pasted from another blog :
Anonymous said...
YELLOW MEDICINE RIVER
YELLOH
TODD GRIEB ONLY REPORTED PHYSICAL SYMPTOMS!!
HALF MOON LAKE 4 FOUND DROWNED THERE
MOONSEED THE CRESCENT MOON POISON
DATE RAPE DRUG
PARALYISIS
FIXED EYES
BREATHING DIFFICULTIES
FLEXIBLE BODIES
EVENTUALLY FATAL
You reading what I am?! "Flexible Bodies"
Well, whether they are torturing them psychological, or sexually or both....or performing experiments on them,again also....psychological or maybe they are testing drugs on them....some kind of new drug maybe....something that may not be noticeable in a regular autopsy but if they REALLY look for it then maybe they could find it....I heard something about it being possible to detect GHB in the fluid in the eye socket...I am not saying that GHB is something that is used or not....it seems that maybe Saostak was on GHB,which can easily be slipped into unwatched drinks,you wouldn't be none the wiser to it.
I just saying that the possibilities are carzy to say the least. Cused and I have been talking on Skype and we were talking about the abductors(sfks)could be taking some to Canada. Who knows at this point .
Oh, by the way, 652154 and 626075 if you want to instant msg each other on Skype(it's very easy to download,very easy to use)you can email me at the email address under my profile but that particular one is a junk one anyway. And then we can compare note like I've been doing with Cursed13. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 629667
Yes you can detect GHB in the fluid of the eye socket but a lot of times by the time the body is found there isn't any fluid left plus in order to detect the GHB you have to be looking for it and do the right test, alot of times this isn't being done in the autopsys.If the sfk are doing some kind of drug experiments why not just do it on bums or drifters, people that wouldn't be noticed if missing , why college kids? |
| cursed13
User ID: 656708
4/16/2009 6:58 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
bums and transients are un-healthy people in general and not make good testing specimens.
when your testing you need similar weight and height etc.
Last Edited by cursed13 on 4/16/2009 at 6:59 PM |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 629667
4/16/2009 7:01 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Yes you can detect GHB in the fluid of the eye socket but a lot of times by the time the body is found there isn't any fluid left plus in order to detect the GHB you have to be looking for it and do the right test, alot of times this isn't being done in the autopsys.If the sfk are doing some kind of drug experiments why not just do it on bums or drifters, people that wouldn't be noticed if missing , why college kids?
I don't know...maybe because they are young and athletic...maybe that's the type they want.
But there could also be a gay element to this case.
Maybe some guy that can't come to terms with his sexuality and he is taking his rage out on these kids. Maybe there is a hierarchy...I don't know. Plenty of possibilities.
If it was experiments,like I said above,maybe they need young and fit men....but then again,Dan was a severe diabetic..........We were talking on this thread a while back that maybe they could be picking their victims from myspace or stalking them....and if that's the case,wouldn't they have known he was a severe diabetic.
Also Dan was some sort of event coordinator so he spoke with lots of kids and people on campus. |
| Jessa_FL
User ID: 629667
4/16/2009 7:04 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Oh and I found this on another site:
I don't know why the police can't make this guy talk cause he knows something.
An attorney believes that an Ohio State medical student who has been missing for more than three years is alive, he told a private investigator in an e-mail.
Brian Shaffer has been missing since April 1, 2006. He was last seen on surveillance video outside the Ugly Tuna Saloona on the South Campus Gateway at 1:55 that morning. One of the last people to see Shaffer that night was William "Clint" Florence, one of Shaffer's best friends.
Attorney Neil Rosenberg represents Florence, who has refused at least two requests to take polygraph tests during the investigation of Shaffer's disappearance. Florence is the only person who has refused to take a polygraph, said Kevin Miles, director of the Central Ohio Crime Stoppers.
Private investigator Don Corbett, who has worked on the case for free for the Shaffer family, said Florence refused his request to take a polygraph as recently as last September. Corbett said Florence also refused a police request to take a polygraph soon after Shaffer went missing. The Columbus Division of Police did not respond to phone calls last week seeking comment about Florence's refusal to take a polygraph.
In the e-mail he sent to Corbett on Sept. 22, 2008, Rosenberg said: "If Brian is alive, which is what I'm led to believe after speaking with the detective involved, then it is Brian, and not Clint who is causing his family pain and hardship. Brian should come forward and end this."
Rosenberg said last week in a phone interview that as far as he is concerned the case is closed, and he declined to comment about the investigation or the e-mail he sent to Corbett.
In an e-mail last week, Florence said: "While I appreciate any effort in trying to determine what happened to Brain [sic] that night, I must decline your request. ANY and ALL questions you have for me should be directed to my attorney, Neil Rosenberg."
Florence, 32, works for the Department of Microbiology and Immunology at the Vanderbilt University Medical School, where he is a postdoctoral fellow, according to a Vanderbilt Web site.
Corbett said he doesn't know which detective Rosenberg was referring to in the e-mail. However, he believes it is one of three men at Columbus Police: detective Andre Edwards of the Physical Child Abuse Section, Sgt. John Hurst of the Physical Abuse Section and Deputy Chief Antone Lanata of the Investigative Subdivision.
All three did not respond to repeated requests last week for an interview about whether they told Rosenberg they believe Shaffer is still alive.
Rosenberg also said in his e-mail to Corbett that, "The only burning issue with the authorities remains Clint's refusal to be polygraphed. That decision was based on my recommendation and advise [sic] to Clint, not because he is, has been misleading or has something to hide, but that he simply has nothing new to tell and was totally up front and honest with them from the beginning. As far as Clint is concerned, this matter is closed."
In a telephone interview Friday, Meredith Reed, a friend of both Shaffer and Florence who was with them that night, said she took and passed a polygraph about a month after Shaffer disappeared.
She said she assumes the Columbus Police asked her to take the test.
In fact, everyone who was asked to take a polygraph passed it, Miles said.
But not everyone who knew Brian or who had seen him the night he went missing was asked to take a polygraph.
The last time Shaffer was seen on surveillance video outside the Ugly Tuna Saloona he was with two women, Brightan Zatko and Amber Ruic. Ruic said in a phone interview Friday that she was never asked to take a polygraph.
Brian's brother, Derek, is the last surviving member of the immediate family. His father, Randy, died on Sept. 14, 2008, when a tree limb fell on him outside his house during a windstorm. Derek's mother died of cancer three weeks before Brian went missing.
In a phone interview last week, Derek Shaffer said he was not asked to take a polygraph but that his father took and passed one. Derek Shaffer also said he thinks it's odd that Clint has refused to take any polygraphs.
"As soon as the detective started getting involved, that's when he pretty much had no contact with anybody," Derek Shaffer said. "I've always thought he definitely knows something - just won't come forward with it.
"If Brian did take off somewhere, if that is the case, we just always had a strong feeling that Clint would possibly know that."
Shaffer's girlfriend at the time, Alexis Waggoner, also thinks Florence knows something he doesn't want to tell. But her opinion regarding Shaffer's whereabouts now is different than Derek's.
"I don't think he's alive," Waggoner said. "I can't imagine he would have just done that."
Alexis Waggoner's father, Tom Waggoner, participated in the search for Shaffer in 2006. During that period he became acquainted with Florence.
"The gist of my perspective on Clint Florence is that I think that basically all roads to making any progress on the case on Brian Shaffer lead through Clint Florence," Tom Waggoner said. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 658284
4/16/2009 7:05 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
to cursed13 --why couldnt he do such a thing to his father.thats stupid.
I'm sorry. that wasn't clear enough. For example-if a child of yours that regularly was in contact with you just vanished, you would worry terribly. It would be almost unbearable for you. So what I meant to say was that I doubt Brian Shaffer would run off on his own, disappear and start a new life, because I would expect that because he was a grown man, he would consider his father's feelings.
thats not always the case.many peole move on in life and seperate theirselves from their parents and families.not everyone can FEEL. Quoting: cursed13
Yes they do but he recently lost his mother and I personally don't think he would have done that to his father, at least let's hope not especially now that he passed on! Why would a child want his family to go through all that grief, i don't think he disappeared on his own behalf! |
| harleydavidson
User ID: 658284
4/16/2009 7:16 PM | | harleydavidson
User ID: 658284
4/16/2009 7:20 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
There are all you happy i'm not a anonymous # anymore!? Now we have to get everyone posting on here to have a name!! |
| Jessa_FL
User ID: 629667
4/16/2009 7:22 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Yep I did but I don't think many others have.
I'm going to ut & paste it here in a min. |
| Jessa_Fl
User ID: 629667
4/16/2009 7:23 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
New possible victims
April 16th, 2009 No comments
Desmond Clark
“Accidental drowning” is how authorities are classifying a Montana teen’s death. Desmond Clark left a party near Poplar, Montana on April 10th. He got into an argument with someone at the party and walked into the woods. Attempts to bring the 17-year-old back were unsuccessful. Searchers started looking for him on Easter evening. His body was recovered in the backwaters of the Missouri River. The location is less than a mile from the party where Desmond was last seen. According to the Great Falls Tribune, authorities say there are no reports of trauma or foul play and that Desmond had been drinking alcohol at the party. Click here to read more about Desmond’s death.
Desmond was a junior at a high school in nearby Wolf Point, MT. He was a guard on the basketball team. They’d had a successful season and made local headlines recently for winning the conference tournament.
Roderick Red Star
The Sheriff says that the disappearance of Roderick Red Star is unrelated. The 20-year-old man was last seen on March 14 walking north of Wolf Point. Searches by local and tribal authorities haven’t found any sign of Roderick. Click here to read more about Roderick’s disappearance.
NOTE: Fewer than 1,000 people live in Poplar. The population of nearby Wolf Point is nearly 2,500. |
| harleydavidson
User ID: 658284
4/16/2009 7:46 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Does anyone know out of all the drowned or missing, how many or who were listening to bands at the bars they disappeared from? |
| harleydavidson
User ID: 658284
4/16/2009 8:03 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Does anyone know out of all the drowned or missing, how many or who were listening to bands at the bars they disappeared from? Quoting: harleydavidson
Nevermind, i guess some were at parties! I just got thinking how bands travel town to town and play at bars & that maybe there was some kind of connection. |
| Jessa_FL
User ID: 629667
4/16/2009 8:30 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Have anyone noticed a lot of these victims have gotten lost in fields? I'll try to find the link to that but maybe I already posted it on this thread somewhere. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 658284
4/16/2009 8:48 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
Have anyone noticed a lot of these victims have gotten lost in fields? I'll try to find the link to that but maybe I already posted it on this thread somewhere. Quoting: Jessa_FL 629667
Jessa i was just reading on footprints about lee cutler (WI)how his car was found parked near a REST STOP the wayside was near a cornfield off the highway. Brandson Swanson( MN) vehicle found off a highway where it became stuck on a washed out field approach. Could a trucker have took these guys? Both guys haven't been found. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 658413
4/16/2009 9:55 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
I wasn't going to post this because I didn't know for sure if it meant something or was just a normal nightmare. I still don't know for sure so please just take it for what it is worth.
At times I tend to be cognitive/pre-cognitive and an empath. I have been this way my whole life but can't make it happen. It just happens or it doesn't. Sometimes I go months without anything.
Anyway, last night I was viewing this thread as I have in the past. I haven't posted much on this thread except occasionally. But it has affected me as I am sure it has many others in that I feel so frustrated that these young men aren't getting justice. I keep coming back to it hoping that there has been some arrests.
It was about 9:00 PDT and as I clicked to leave this thread I felt a soft wind on my right hand that was on the mouse. And then I felt as if someone was pressing down on my hand. I thought it weird but sometimes those things happen to me and I didn't relate it to this thread necessarily. These types of things happen so often that I tend to ignore them. I know that sounds weird but that is just how my whole life has been. Some things become normal after awhile and are not frightening.
I checked out the forum and didn't see anything else of interest so turned off computer and got ready for bed. I felt very tired so just went to bed.
At a little after 2:30 I awoke with a start. I had this horrible dream about these killings. I was indoors somewhere. I felt like my body was paralyzed but I was still awake and aware and could somewhat hear and see although my vision was blurred.
There were people around me and I was on the floor. There was some kind of construction going on because I could hear banging noises and sounds of big equipment. One man was very close to me on my right kneeling over me. I could see his tatoo on his left upper arm - it was cascading stars which looked like they were giving off sparks (not real moving - just sparks tattoed around the stars). I heard another man which I couldn't see say "He's staring at your stars." The man next to me, kneeling over me, laughed and said, "I'm not going to show you the moon because it's all about the starlight".
Then he and someone else lifted me up and put me into something that contained water. It was not a stream, lake, river, etc. because I was still indoors. But the water started rushing over me. I couldn't breath. I felt like I was drowning in an ocean with waves rushing over me and I couldn't move my body. I was in terror and then I woke up.
I couldn't go back to sleep for a very long time. I've been thinking about it all day trying to determine if it was one of my cognitive/pre-cognitive dreams or just a normal nightmare. I've been feeling that it was one of the cognitive dreams because they often have a more realistic feel to them than my normal dreams. But I am not sure.
I at first thought that it didn't mean anything because I was being drowned inside and not in a river and that seemed unrealistic. But the more I thought about this maybe they kill some of these young men by drowning such as water-boarding or something even before they are dumped in the river or lake. In other words they are killed by drowning indoors even before the body is dumped in a body of water.
I also thought about the comment about the moon and stars so looked at a calendar and felt really creepy to see that 4/17 (tomorrow) is the quarter moon (half moon). So I decided to post this just in case it was a meaningful dream.
I wish I could tell you that it was or was not a cognitive/pre-cognitive dream for sure but I never really know for sure until whatever the dream is about comes true. So take it for what it is worth. I hope to God that it was just a nightmare and not something more.
Has anyone else been having dreams/nightmares about this? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 652154
4/16/2009 10:20 PM | | Re: The smiley face killer-is he a technician with Trane? | Quote |
scopolamine-an hypnotic drug made from the datura, brugmansia, moonseeds.
It kills, causes heart attacks-people who have been slipped it on food or in drinks will do whatever they are told and function as if normal. They will give the robbers all that they have. Wake up in their apartment and not remember what happened. The damages depend also on how much you are given or what your tolerance may be. I wonder how far they would go. If told to kill, would they do it? Sounds like it to me. Your willpower is totally gone under the influence of this drug. It has been used for date rape, and by pimps, or to rob johns. Or to kill if the victim is given enough.
Again-is there a test to see if it is in their system.
Is there a test to determine if someone like the guy who woke up in the river had this scopolamine in his system.
Got the lead from the beginning of this thread. It can be called Devil's Breath, Columbian Devil's Breath, or Scopolamine. It is used in medications for Parkinsons.
I cut and pasted an article here about Jimson Weed, or Jamestown Weed, where the hungry English Soldiers cooked up some leaves and ate it in a salad. |
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