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Who are The Holy Ones in Revelation?

 
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12/14/2004 06:09 PM
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Hello GLP Readers :)
This might be a new way to look at the word ´holy´, but you if everything is God in one form or another it makes the word and term more understandable.


To ascend is spirit, does not mean one rises up into the literal clouds, but ascends within the physical body, as the rising energy opens the chakras numbered one through seven, and activates the crown chakra producing the “Crown of Life” mentioned in the Bible.

Now another term used that is often mistaken in its usage is the term ‘the holy ones.’ Why are these persons called holy? Do these people have flaws, and human failings, or are they perfect?

In reality all of humanity is holy, but the vast majority are not aware of this truth. The individuals called ‘holy ones’ are called that not because they are better than others in any way, but because they perceive their own holiness, and they see everyone, and everything else as holy as well. These individuals can do no harm to the environment, other humans or to themselves once Oneness is perceived.

The sought after “perfection” taught by some churches is not attainable because perfection a completion, needing no more horizons. There will never be an end to the exploration of the One Infinite Creator as It seeks to know Itself.

Humanity is part of the curious nature which is the Universe.

The universe is expanding because MIND, which is Intelligent Infinity is expanding. Human minds, the individualized parts of Itself are likewise expanding.

Seeing oneself reflected in the eyes of humanity causes a love to rise up within the individual which seeks the highest good for all and harm to nothing, thus the thoughts and actions of this person reflect their sacred approach to everything, which means respecting all things and reflecting the joy of knowing they are One with the universe.
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12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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everyone who wears the elaine thong.
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Holy means Separate.

Holy Ones means those set apart.
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Certainly not you Treesnuffer.
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The Hebrew word qodesh and the equivalent Greek word hagios and their derivatives have been translated as holy, hallowed, or sanctified in older English versions, and in modern versions as sacred. Bible dictionaries state that the meaning of qodesh (as well as qadash) specifies "separation." Modern scholars use the words "set apart," "set-apart," and "apartness."

According to Dictionary of Mythology Folklore and Symbols, the following is stated about the word HOLY: In practically all languages, the word "holy" has been derived from the divinely honored sun. According to Encyclopedia of Religions, HOLI is the Great Hindu spring festival, held in honour of Krishna, as the spring sun-god. Strong´s Concordance refers to "heile" (the sun´s rays). This form is almost identical to the German and Dutch equivalent of the English "holy." The German and Dutch word is heilig, which is derived from Heil, the name of a Saxon idol.

[link to www.tyndale.cam.ac.uk]
www.innvista.com/scriptures/compare/heathen5.htm
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>>....causes a love to rise up within the individual which seeks the highest good for all and harm to nothing


I´m surprised how I´ve watched myself mellow over the past few years, I seem to have let go of much of the Anger I felt over injustices and become more accepting that bad people have their own paths, and rage towards them only further entrenches their position
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Beloved masters, as you began to build a coat of flesh around your shining Spirit Self, in that time long past remembering, it was necessary to develop the ability to receive stimuli through the bodily sensors. You were endowed with many refined sensory perception devices which you used most proficiently in the higher dimensional realms. However, it was imperative that you develop and use the physical body sensors in order to function efficiently in a world of physicality. Yes, you had to learn to see through your eyes and identify and understand what you were seeing; learn to hear and interpret the many sounds of the Earth and other humans, and eventually as your telepathic skills began to wane, learn to make sounds, utter words and interpret what others said to you; use the nose and olfactory senses in order to smell and taste as you began to eat of the fruits of the Earth and develop personal preferences; use your hands and the sensitive nerve endings of the body in order to develop a sense of touch and to enjoy the physical sensations of the flesh and your new world.

It was an exciting experience, filled with many new sensations and great adventure. You were like children in a wonderland where you could create anything you could imagine, have whatever your hearts desired by tapping into the universal flow of primal life substance. You were innocent and pure and in perfect harmony with the Creator and the Divine Plan for Earth, but gradually, over the aeons of time all the wonder faded, your senses dulled, and your magical creative abilities began to wane and shut down.

At this time, we will focus on another facet of your ancient past so that you will remember how it was in the beginning in order to help you reclaim your physical and spiritual senses in the fullest measure. You must redefine and learn to properly use the physical senses, beloveds, in order to access and develop the higher senses that became dormant so long ago: clairvoyance/clear seeing, clairaudience/clear hearing or telepathic abilities, clairsentience (an empathic person with an expanded, inner sense of awareness), all of these heightened abilities are a part of your divine birthright just waiting for you to reclaim them.

We have discussed in great detail the seven major chakras of the physical vessel, and outlined the positive and negative attributes/functions of each one, and yet, dear ones, are you aware that each chakra and organ within the body has a consciousness of its own which were overlaid and infused with the energies of your many past experiences and thought forms? You have not only created your outer world with your beliefs and the vibrational frequencies of your thoughts, but you have built your inner world as well. Your body communicates with you in many ways, but do you know how to listen and interpret what it is telling you? I have stated this truth to you before, but it bears repeating, many of you have accepted the fact that you can communicate and interact with the angelic realms and Beings of Light, but you still do not believe that you can communicate with the many facets of your bodily form.

Allow me to give you another simplified exercise to assist you in tapping into the inner wisdom of your physical vessel. I will give you a key word for each chakra- please study and learn some of the attributes of each chakra, and then as you go about your daily life, when appropriate, chant or say the word for each chakra. (These words may be toned and held as long as comfortable if you wish). As with toning the vowel sounds, start at your lowest, most comfortable note and slowly move up the scale chanting the word for each chakra). Observe what comes to mind when you chant the key word and focus on the chakra. How do you "LIVE" the energies of the root chakra, how do you "LOVE" with the energies of the heart, etc.?

ROOT CHAKRA * "I LIVE" Grounds your physical self to the life force of Earth and gives stability (this is most important, for you must honor and maintain the physical body while reaching for the stars). When this chakra is functioning properly and in balance, you will have more vitality, courage and self-confidence. It will help you release old survival and scarcity issues and tap into your treasure chest of abundance.

NAVEL CHAKRA * "I FEEL" This is the seat of your physical/emotional self. When this chakra is in balance, you are no longer plagued by self-doubt, addictions, or sexual issues. You become attuned to the wisdom of your soul mind instead of the ego mind and gradually all the old self-limiting thought patterns of the subconscious mind are replaced with self-confidence and emotional stability. You take back your personal power as you learn to create joy, peace and prosperity, instead of fear and limitation.

SOLAR PLEXUS * "I WILL" This is the seat of your physical/mental self. When this chakra begins to spin in harmony and there are few discordant energies, your self-esteem returns, knowledge turns into wisdom and clarity of thought, you regain self-control and master your desires. You learn to set boundaries and honor the boundaries of others as you draw forth energy from the universal source of life substance and your own I AM Presence instead of tapping into the energies of those around you. The activation of your Solar Power Center begins at this point (solar plexus, heart and thymus).

HEART * "I LOVE" The heart chakra is the gateway to the higher chakras which connects you to the Soul Self and Spirit Self. When your heart chakra is unbalanced or mostly shut down, you will function primarily as an instinctual human being which is governed by the three lower chakras of the physical self. As you balance the energies of the heart mind/emotions-the life and love force energy center of the body, you will tap into the unconditional Love Force of the God Mind. You swiftly release all energies and thought patterns which manifest as jealousy, envy, selfishness, guilt or feelings of unworthiness. As you ignite the Three-fold Flame of Divine Will, Wisdom and Love, you begin to develop a compassionate nature and a oneness with life and all things.

THROAT * "I SPEAK" The throat chakra is connected to the astral/emotional plane or mental/causal plane, depending on the vibrational frequencies of the thoughts and words you project. This may seem confusing, however, since you create your own reality by the frequency patterns you radiate, the law of attraction assures that the lower frequencies you send forth will attract astral plane energies and the higher ones will tap into the mental planes of consciousness. The ascension process entails mastering the physical plane, the astral (emotional) plane, the mental plane and on up through the higher dimensions. Communication-the power of the spoken word-is one of the most important tools on the physical plane. When you begin to use the language of Love/Light and Soul Talk, you will always speak your highest truth, you will be expressive and creative in speech, writing and become proficient in manifesting your vision.

THIRD EYE* "I SEE" The brow or third eye chakra opens the door to the "inner senses," first connecting you to your unconscious self (subconscious mind), and gradually to your Higher Self as the pure cosmic Light substance of the God Mind (called Rays) are allowed to enter and activate your God Consciousness (the Essence of you). You will move through the whispers of intuition into a "knowing" that you are being guided and inspired by Spirit. New knowledge, creative ideas and inspiration from the higher mental and intuitive planes will be accessible to you as you clear the distortions. Do not fear the seemingly dark energies or thought forms that float into your consciousness or before your eyes during meditation, beloveds, for these are your own creations coming to the fore to be healed and transmuted into Light. Love is the dynamic, cohesive force of Creation and when Love/Light is shined on any misqualified thought frequency it is "lightened" and eventually transmuted. Also, remember to use the gift of the Violet Transmuting Flame.

CROWN CHAKRA* "I AM"When the crown chakra is activated, the pathway is opened to your Spiritual Self, and the wisdom, gifts and treasures stored with your Divine I AM Presence will be available to you. As you demonstrate that you are ready to live and radiate the Love/Light/Truth of Creation, you will be showered with an ever-increasing flow of the attributes and virtues of the Twelve Rays of God Consciousness.

The process of clearing, harmonizing and balancing the seven major chakras of the physical body results in an important initiation process called THE OPENING OF THE SEVEN SEALS OF GOD CONSCIOUSNESS. As each chakra is returned to harmony within itself, a process is activated whereby an energy vortex is opened and the perfected qualities and energy of that chakra are projected upward into the next chakra. The process is repeated until the crown chakra is activated which allows an amazing and wondrous thing to take place: the chakra system begins to spin at such high revolution that it turns the spinal column into a blazing shaft of Light and the five higher galactic Rays of the Creator pour down through the column of Light and infuses all your chakras with the luminescence of your Divine I AM Presence.

That is the process that many of you have been experiencing these last few years, and since you are on an accelerated path of initiation/transformation, some discomfort and distortions have been activated within the physical vessel. There was/is much to be released, rectified and balanced, beloveds, and what has taken thousands of years to create is being transmuted in just a few short years, so please be gentle with yourselves and know that you are in the process of incorporating and transforming your human self into your shining, spirited Self.

To assist you in tapping into your cosmic TREASURE CHESTS which were stored in the higher dimensions awaiting the time when you would begin the journey homeward into the higher dimensions, we offer this exercise:

Focus your consciousness in your heart center and take a few deep breaths. Envision (however you perceive) your Essence being lifted up and out of the crown chakra. You move quickly up your column of Light as you connect with the highest level which is appropriate for you. You have treasure chests of wisdom, experience, gifts and pure cosmic Light substance stored along the way at multiple levels of consciousness and dimensions, and so do not doubt that you are ready to tap into these gifts. As you lift your consciousness, your brain waves slow down and you connect with the spiritual triad of Will, Intuition and the Higher Mind. It is your creative mind at work, so envision how your treasure chest (or treasure house) look. Move into it and look around as you focus on what you wish to create-you may want to concentrate on one item at a time until you become proficient in using this wonderful storehouse of Energy-but know that anything, no matter how large or small, can be accomplished if you learn to use and trust the process. Think of the situation or problem that you want to address and see the perfect solution. (If you desire to change a situation that involves someone else, you must state, "For the highest good of all)." Then see the perfect solution placed in a bubble of iridescent White Light (which will contain all the colors/attributes of the twelve Rays). Now envision that ball of energy floating down your column of Light and surrounding you and permeating the depths of your Being down into your DNA and finally into the core of the Earth. Sit quietly for awhile and experience the sensations of the energy, once again becoming sensitive and attuned to the higher vibrations of your Spirit Self. When you feel complete, say, "SO BE IS, SO IT IS. IT IS DONE. I AM GRATEFUL AND GIVE THANKS FOR THIS GIFT."

My brave ones, you are ready to wield the Light of Creation and use the tools of a master once more, all you have to do is believe in yourselves and claim your cosmic treasure chests. We are ever near to assist and inspire you as you venture into the higher realms where all good things are possible.

I AM Archangel Michael.

[link to www.spiritwheel.com]
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"I AM Archangel Michael"

NO. You´re not.

Da:10:21: But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and there is none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your prince.

Da:12:1: And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.




Jude:1:9: Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

Re:12:7: And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels




Michael has nothing to do with the drivel you spout.
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"Michael has nothing to do with the drivel you spout."

The scripture you quoted does not refute the post which was said to be from Michael.

Perhaps you just don´t like the idea that the "new age crowd" might have insight that you missed out on.
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12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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Hello nolo
The way holy has been used by religion I must agree with you BUT…then they do not teach that all things are One Mind and One energy. If this is the case there is nothing that is not holy and part of God.

The precise point I am making. God has always been taught as separate and apart but what if God is in even the quarks and in every atom.

Hello Pal
You are correct in your approach Pal. Meeting negative energy with more negative energy just increases it..
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12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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Tree Hugger, when I make a dress I am not in the dress, I just made it. So with The Most High God. God made all things in heaven and earth. He is not in it He made all things. Nolo is correct and it is written " be ye holy for I am holy".
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I want to thank everyone who posted including the post about the chakra exercises.
There is not just one way to learn and grow but many ways and if you find something which helps you use it.....and it matter not if it is found in the Bible or the Vedas or in looking up at the clouds, wherever your personal truth is you will be led there.
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"...all things are One Mind and One energy. If this is the case there is nothing that is not holy and part of God."

As Nolo said, the spirit was of set-apartness. The separation of those who walk the path of truth from those who walk the path of the world.

Everything that is created has a connection to the Creator. Created beings have the free will to take any path they choose. Those who choose to walk according to the will of the Creator could be said to be set-apart.
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Hello AC

How you ask can the creation and the One creating be the same.
Because everything is God in one form of awareness or another.
The earth is alive and aware.
All atoms communicate.
Even in your dress when you go to the quantum level is made of atoms which are part of the the same ONE energy.
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It says he´s omnipresent, omniscient. (if god truly is a ´he´ lol)

omnipresent means everywhere. That means he´s hanging out between the 2D and 3F electron orbital shells of a Ruthenium Atom, and simultaneously is at Chuck E Cheese down the street from here too..

i think it was a mistranslation and instead of omnipresent it used to read "omnivorous"

as for the word Holy.

i´ve always thought that word was incredibly annoying and pretensious, even coming from "God".

"Look at me everybody I´m so holy. I´m off to go play the Grand Piano now!, and then I shall read the Classics Like Chaucer and Moliere, for i have only the finest upper class taste."

but of course, this all changes, when one realizes what i find holy you may not.

One can find God in a decomposing pile of wood amongst the Beetles and earthworms if one knows how to look....
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Exactly Black
But how many know how to look?

Western religions says God is up there, but what if all along God were in each tiny element and atom?
The phrase..."I am with you always" takes on a whole new meaning as everything is thought vibrations emanating from one Source and cannot be separated because everything is connected, thus nothing exists that is NOT holy .....a total new meaning of the word emerges.
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"It says he´s omnipresent, omniscient."

They have built also the high places of Baal, to burn their sons with fire [for] burnt offerings unto Baal, which I commanded not, nor spake [it], neither came [it] into my mind: [Jer 19:5]
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Tree Hugger,

Yes there is a fundamental interconnectedness of all things. But calling this interconnectedness holiness has no basis in truth.
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Well AC
You are welcome to your opinon but I believe everything is Intelligent Infinity and therefore everything is sacred in the true sense of awe and mystery. thank you for posting
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All that is is but a thought from God.

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Air is to the physical world as God is to the spirit world. God is life, light, time and space, the pattern for all life, the energy of all matter, the heart of all that matters, the very essence of all being, the source behind every sun, the source of all light and love, the core of all things, the single point of infinite light and absolute love, and the very life force of the universe. - Kevin Williams
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Who are The Holy Ones in Revelation?

The ones who keeps the whole Law are the holy ones.
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The Holy Ones are those who keep HIS Commandments and have the Testimony of JESUS CHRIST.

The gnostic, god is all and all is god and man is god is pure heresy. It is just a different, more expanded spin of the lie satan used in the Garden of Eden.
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Tree Hugger,

Thankyou for the thread. I agree wih your 7:43 post.
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Nice TH.....Holy is Holly -l......think a bout ITworship
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Remember God means demon. a mixture of righteousness and evil.

The Name of The Creator is "Yahweh" which means "HE chosed to be righteous" Yahweh has never said He is a "god." Yahweh will destroy every "god" soon!
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AC 8:21,

and where did you get your info from? that is the most ridiculous, and blasphemeous notion I´ve heard to date.
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[link to kybalion.home.att.net]

I recommend this for a read.

"The Universe is Mental--held in the Mind of THE ALL."
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AC 8:21,

and where did you get your info from? that is the most ridiculous, and blasphemeous notion I´ve heard to date.


I would not say that if I new something you didn´t "satan deceives the whole world."
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The meaning of the name of the Creator:

yod-hey-waw-hey
work-speech-thought-speech

Speech can mean an act of creation, eg "let there be light".

So the meaning is: the work of thought in speech; or active, creative intelligence.
Urinal Cake.. (OP)

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As you wish.

Hi, Treerose
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The meaning of the name of the Creator:

yod-hey-waw-hey
work-speech-thought-speech

Speech can mean an act of creation, eg "let there be light".

So the meaning is: the work of thought in speech; or active, creative intelligence.



How long have you studied this? 4 hours? You need to study more like, 4 years.

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