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The Titor Illuminati connection or the Unified Theory of John Titor

 
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The Titor Illuminati connection or the Unified Theory of John Titor

Having followed the John Titor saga for years now, I have come to certain reasonings and conclusions. They are not the only ones that can be drawn from the Titor story, but they are mine in that I have not seen this all in one united theory. As I have not seen these conclusions posted before, I will post them here and now.

First off I should state that I don’t believe in time travel as such. I don’t believe in Titor’s ‘cover story’ or even the ‘multi universe’ or ‘many worlds’ theory. With that said, I do believe in the information that Titor gave regarding the ‘future’ on many levels and for many reasons. I also do not believe that Titor was one person, but rather a group of well educated, well informed people. Insiders with knowledge of TPTB or the Illuminati if you will.

Titor gave a lot of insights into many fields; science, politics, military, and law just to name a few. Titor appeared to be well meaning and good hearted, even though he said he grew up living in a time of upheaval and despair. He was doing a ‘noble’ thing by telling humanity what the ‘future’ held in store.

Titor spoke/wrote in a way that just specific enough to be enlightened and just vague enough to be general. This was part of his giving insight into the ‘future’ and still be able to allow for the plausibility of his story should things not go exactly as described. However there is still more here then meets the eye.

To stop the story in say 2003, you be able to say that Titor was a nice story made up by a collage student(s) with too much time or running some kind of social experiment. All well and good, pleasant yarn, but nothing more. However flash-forward to 2008 and all of a sudden Titor is ringing in ones ears each time they pick up a news paper (like anyone picks up a paper anymore)!

There were always the few predictions that Titor proclaimed that seem to have little or few reasonable explanations. The IBM 5100 computer that he went back for that had some quirky ‘built-in’ ability to do something that no other computer could do. Sounds right out of a bad Hollywood blockbuster. But then we find the little known truth to this little remembered computer of a former age. Yes, this overgrown microwave oven seems to have a few little tricks up it’s sleeve that few even in the 1970’s were aware of… Titor right…

There was the election topic and the ‘whoever he/she’ would be… Well, maybe not exactly a long-shot guess here even for 2000, but nonetheless, a ‘hit’ on the prediction scale. Titor right again…

‘Titor’ made an interesting comment about the knowledge of bicycle tires in the US. The rise in gas prices lately have many in my (non Titor) circle thinking of getting bicycles and the thought of how many tire manufacturers always pops into my mind. Titor right?

There is the China connection and US Civil War. Here again is one of those ‘gasp moments’ in the Titor posts. Titor either took a flyer on this one, had knowledge of what would/could happen, or is keenly aware of the religio/political pulse and how certain end-games may/will play out. Again, in 2003 the thought of Civil War is absolutely laughable, today… not so much. Even the locations that Titor spoke of with regard to where the wars were fought, though general and vague, seem to be making sense with the recent “food shortage” and fuel concerns. Titor right, again?

Ok I could go on about Titor’s predictions and how more then less he has been on the mark. Sure there was the Olympic games that he seems to have missed, but even there it might have only been delayed reality. And currently we “Titor watchers” hold our collective breath with each CERN headline.

So how did Titor do it?

And here in lies the bulk of my premise. The premise that ‘Titor’ had knowledge of the future, yet not having come from the future. The only way this is accomplished, prophets and seers aside, is to control the future, or at least be in the know with those that do ‘make’ the future plans for this world.

I contend that Titor was a group of well connected people with an agenda of their own.

A group? Going back through early posts it has been pointed out that there was a little too convenient of conversations that went on. Leading questions begetting interesting answers. It appears in hindsight that ‘Titor’ had some shills that would allow Titor to give the information in the way he wanted. Titor was able to ‘control the flow of information’. This is important, as it would give the illusion of being able to answer complicated questions from the ‘top of mind’. Once credibility was garnered, Titor’s posts become less frequent and less detailed. Sure he would give details, but this would be in answer to a question that was days old, allow time for the ‘cover story’ to be given in the proper detail.

Now my purpose here isn’t to debunk Titor, but to uncover his true nature, agenda and purpose. Or at least get to asking the right questions.

I believe that ‘Titor’ has/had an important message to get out. MSM was not an option, so ‘Titor’ used the conspiracy network to spread the word. Of course this required/demanded a ‘cover story’ so as to be taken seriously. This might sound like an oxymoron, but just look at what gets hits and pins on this forum as an example. Always the extreme, this time travel story was carefully planned and crafted for credibility on this conspiracy media.

The message was the this generation was destroying itself and not even caring that they were doing it. ‘Titor’ also painted a grim future as the consequence for this cavalier attitude.

‘Titor’ also spoke of the wars that would take place and how China and Russia would be a major player. However one comment seems to signal that we are very close to seeing the culmination of years of planning.

“The year 2008 was a general date by which time everyone will realize the world they thought they were living in was over. The civil war in the United States will start in 2004. I would describe it as having a Waco type event every month that steadily gets worse. The conflict will consume everyone in the US by 2012 and end in 2015 with a very short WWIII.”

[link to www.johntitor.com]

Granted we currently don’t look at 2004 as a starting point for ‘civil war’ in the US, but perhaps it’s still a matter of perspective. So far, over a third of the way through 2008, he seems to have ‘hit’ this year just right.

If you have read this far and follow my train of thought about the Titor/Illuminati connection, the question that has yet to be raised is ‘why’. Why go through all the trouble, why be so vague, why the rouse? I can only imagine that the answer is as complex as the ‘cover story’.

Assuming ‘Titor’ as being a group of well connected people that have seen enough to know what will happen, but yet not agree with this manipulated future for one reason or another. ‘Titor’ would have to cover themselves, thus the need to ‘hide’ behind this cover story. ‘Titor’ would also have to know that the future is still pliable enough to be changed. In fact ‘Titor’ consistently made this point repeated, though cloaked behind his ‘multi-world’ scenario. So, tptb might have their plans, but it’s you and I that can really allow it or not allow it to happen. ‘Titor’ would also likely have another agenda, I really don’t think his agenda would be completely altruistic. However speculation on ‘Titors’ true motive is beyond the scope of this diatribe.

So in my mind, ‘Titor’ is closely linked to an offshoot of the Illuminati. ‘Titor’ has given us a glimpse of what certain plans contain and gave us enough breadcrumbs to recognize the plans when we see them start to play out.

However I really think that ‘Titor’ failed. As a world wide awakening due to his story is NOT coming. Even a unified belief in the ‘Titor’ story was never achieved. It even makes me wonder if ‘Titor’ was cut short for some reason, aborted, or exposed within his own realm if you will. We will never know completely…
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bump for interest.
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OP, I think you have hit the nail on the head. I think tptb were stopped.

See this thread:

Thread: FYI...Majestic's beginning posts ....


In a war, you win some and you lose some skirmishes. That made it hard for the Titor thread to be 100% accurate.
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Another interesting thing:

>>>>“The year 2008 was a general date by which time everyone will realize the world they thought they were living in was over. The civil war in the United States will start in 2004. I would describe it as having a Waco type event every month that steadily gets worse. The conflict will consume everyone in the US by 2012 and end in 2015 with a very short WWIII.”<<<


Majestic says tbtb have been changing our timeline, and this year, 2008 is really 2012.

They keep setting it back, little by little. This is why so many people that have died, die again. See the "oddity' thread.
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great thread OP
cheers

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Revolutions and wars take time and planning...in 2004 we did have race-related gang wars and the whole immigration fiasco got real. At that time, the set up was beginning and the fact that the (lame-hollywood focused)news didnt report it or you didnt see it in your nice suburbs or small town homes doesnt mean the race wars didnt start. the gand M-13 was in full swing and white people did not dare go into certain areas in the 'War-zones' in big cities. On the other front, Muslims began the out populating of Europe, having already succeeded in the mid east.
Now Al Sharpton is setting up the hot summer riots in New York, while Farrakan, "Rev" wright and so on are preaching hate and deliberately destroying the career of Obama so that when he loses the nomination, those riots can proceed.
Then add natural disasters, no food, 10 a gallon gas and you have total mayhem and riots.
Sharpton, Jackson and wright cant make a living if blacks mainstream and live normal lives. It isnt white people who have kept the minds and futures of these young people enslaved and suppressed, it has been their demonic greedy hate filled preachers.
So I think the 2004 and 2008 dates are right on.
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2004 might indeed be looked at as the begining of the end. Maybe most, even here, have a 'forest through the trees', POV. History will decide.
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200 views, 9 votes and no one seems ready to challenge the OP? No debunking, flags or anything. Maybe it's overstating the obvious, Watcher. Or maybe it was just too long.
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200 views, 9 votes and no one seems ready to challenge the OP? No debunking, flags or anything. Maybe it's overstating the obvious, Watcher. Or maybe it was just too long.
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The right people aren't on the forum at the moment. This thread is very interesting, and relavent imo. It's another piece of the puzzle that fits in with several other threads.

alzaya
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this actually makes too much sense for me, and kinda gave me a scare

kinda
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200 views, 9 votes and no one seems ready to challenge the OP? No debunking, flags or anything. Maybe it's overstating the obvious, Watcher. Or maybe it was just too long.



The right people aren't on the forum at the moment. This thread is very interesting, and relavent imo. It's another piece of the puzzle that fits in with several other threads.

alzaya
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5a

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agreed bump
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soon, soonanon
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this actually makes too much sense for me, and kinda gave me a scare

kinda
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Stop Making Sense - Talking Heads
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200 views, 9 votes and no one seems ready to challenge the OP? No debunking, flags or anything. Maybe it's overstating the obvious, Watcher. Or maybe it was just too long.



The right people aren't on the forum at the moment. This thread is very interesting, and relavent imo. It's another piece of the puzzle that fits in with several other threads.

alzaya

5a

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OP posted over 24 hrs ago...
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trippy stuff..i think time travel is possible but only to the past and you go to a "different" earth or timeline. didn't he say that y2k happened on his timeline?
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I think this whole John Titor thing was a Hollywood idea being tested. That is if it was in fact a hoax, then those in the movie industry would be able to set up the visuals that were posted and the video that was being planned.

They were beta testing the idea to a subset, kinda of like a Nielson, to see if it would fly, but perhaps the Hollywood powers that be didn't like it or the thing got more publicity that they wanted and dropped the idea.

They certainly wouldn't want the general public to know how deceptive they are being in public forums, for fear of turning us against the industry.

After reading much about it and even some of the so called "Hits", it wouldn't be a stretch for some writers to get together and make some vague predictions concering future events, political and otherwise (most of which have not come to pass).

Certainly 911 was NEVER mentioned, and that surely would have been. But events as spectacular as that or Katrina, the Dec 26th 2004 EQ were never mentioned, of course our world lines must be VERY different, yeah right...

Come Clean Hollywood...
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I like the way the OP thinks. He sees "Titor" as an information exercise to reveal specific things about future plans. JT seemed strangely prescient and even when he was wrong about specifics he seemed quite informed overall.

If events since 9/11 have taught me anything, it's that humans are very easy to program in terms of their responses:

Set people up with a terrorist event and they'll demand revenge - at any cost.

Set people up with faked data about a certain country's involvement in said event, and they'll demand an invasion, no matter what the consequences.

Set the populace up with faked data about the planet's climate or oil supply and they'll demand action.

Then give them some new toys, houses and fashions and they'll demand the credit to pay for them!


What I'm saying is that certain aspects of human psychology are so easy to manipulate (especially if your population is totally ignorant of history... or the outside world!) that the results are fairly predictable.

Thus if you're in a position to manipulate these factors, you can predict the results with some precision. All the factors to cause the events of the past 7 years were in place long before 9/11: they just needed the right trigger.
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BTW That name "Titor" always sounded strange to me. Does anyone think it was actually an acronym for the group - T.I.T.O.R?

Maybe it was five people and the initial letters of their surnames spell "TITOR".
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I like the way the OP thinks. He sees "Titor" as an information exercise to reveal specific things about future plans. JT seemed strangely prescient and even when he was wrong about specifics he seemed quite informed overall.

If events since 9/11 have taught me anything, it's that humans are very easy to program in terms of their responses:

Set people up with a terrorist event and they'll demand revenge - at any cost.

Set people up with faked data about a certain country's involvement in said event, and they'll demand an invasion, no matter what the consequences.

Set the populace up with faked data about the planet's climate or oil supply and they'll demand action.

Then give them some new toys, houses and fashions and they'll demand the credit to pay for them!


What I'm saying is that certain aspects of human psychology are so easy to manipulate (especially if your population is totally ignorant of history... or the outside world!) that the results are fairly predictable.

Thus if you're in a position to manipulate these factors, you can predict the results with some precision. All the factors to cause the events of the past 7 years were in place long before 9/11: they just needed the right trigger.
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I somewhat agree with you, and the funny thing is, while we we're all in a rage and seething for revenge, they were cleaning up the 911 EVENT as quickly as possible and sending the steel (evidence) to other contries (China) at a discount, and in return, they're (China) allowed to kill our pets and poison our kids all for the sake of the God they worship ------- $$$ -------

Did I just here someone say Let them eat Cake?


Let's all go out and buy one (a cake) with our OIL check, I mean Stimulus Check...

I just wonder, considering the last time we got a stimulus check, what are we being sold this time?

War with Iran?????
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I believe that John Titor was a time traveler and that anyone with a physics background will know that the main reason that CERN was constructed was to create mini black holes which are the foundation to time travel.

What I think is interesting is how many of today's problems are addressed by many different causes such as oil companies, immigration, liberals, conservatives, terrorism and no one is looking at the primary cause. There are too many people on this planet competing for the same resources. Titor talked about this when he references space travel and how in his time they are trying to avoid another "Hell's Kitchen." Ted Turner recently was critical of this exact topic.

I know of one good solution to the too many people problem and I think everyone will find out in 2015.
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bump for Titor!
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I believe that John Titor was a time traveler and that anyone with a physics background will know that the main reason that CERN was constructed was to create mini black holes which are the foundation to time travel.

What I think is interesting is how many of today's problems are addressed by many different causes such as oil companies, immigration, liberals, conservatives, terrorism and no one is looking at the primary cause. There are too many people on this planet competing for the same resources. Titor talked about this when he references space travel and how in his time they are trying to avoid another "Hell's Kitchen." Ted Turner recently was critical of this exact topic.

I know of one good solution to the too many people problem and I think everyone will find out in 2015.
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Dude, your so all over the place. Titor talked about space travel? I don't remember that. Hell's Kitchen? Turner? Canabelism? Bring it all home for this dummy, please.
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FUCK THIS. I WROTE THE SAME THESIS OUT THREE YEARS AGO, ALBEIT WITHOUT POINTING FINGERS AT "THE ILLUMINATI", BUT DEFINITELY SOMEONE NEAR THE TOP DROPPING A DIME ON PLANNED EVENT THAT WOULD UNFOLD.

WHAT TITOR WASN'T WAS JUST SOME SIMPLE INTERNET HOAX BECAUSE SOMEONE WOULD HAVE MADE A BOATLOAD OFF THE IDEA IF THEY WERE THE ONE BEHIND IT AND IT WAS JUST A GOOF. THAT NEVER HAPPENED.
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Didn't Titor also talk about mad cow disease? That's been in the news fairly recently.
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Yes, Titor mentioned all those things. Read it yourself, and look it up. A horse can be led to water but you can not make it drink.

Can it all change? Do some people really want it to change? (besides the so-called conspiracies that exist nowadays, which to me is the main course of the stubbornness of some people's heads.)(besides the greed at which some other people operate at. Same type of heads, same type of people.)

I do think that some people want this Civilization to fail (all of Civilization) so that they as people can claim something else, with their Evil.
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If events since 9/11 have taught me anything, it's that humans are very easy to program in terms of their responses:


BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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did titor predict 9/11 event?

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