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when will the Leaning tower of Pisa come tumbling down? | |
| Geogal Offer Upgrade  User ID: 373387  United States05/01/2008 12:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| mj-13 User ID: 426033 United States05/01/2008 12:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, the leaning tower of Pisa construction was started in 1173, and continued haltingly for 200 years. Seems it began it slow tendency towards toppling shortly after construction started. This was due to it being built on soil that wasn't uniform, half the tower has a hard clay and the other a soft clay beneath it. It's possible today to totally correct the angle of inclination with an injection leveling method or building repair used all over the world. But, if the don't do something to correct the problem even in a minor way every few years, it's likely to topple over. Quoting: Geogal[link to kshitija.wordpress.com] Even if the problem was mitigated with foundation piers (penetrating bedrock), you still have the inevitable threat of earth quakes. Nothing lasts forever. |
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| Geogal (OP) User ID: 373387 United States05/01/2008 01:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Plus, I believe that the locals like it leaning, attracts tourists. They apparently don't want it righted. Even if the problem was mitigated with foundation piers (penetrating bedrock), you still have the inevitable threat of earth quakes. Nothing lasts forever. Quoting: mj-13 Woman of white garment, foreign woman, earth-eating woman, taking and giving life, she is Pele "ONCE IN HIS LIFE, EVERY MAN IS ENTITLED TO FALL MADLY IN LOVE WITH A GORGEOUS REDHEAD" - LUCILLE BALL |
| Geogal (OP) User ID: 373387 United States05/01/2008 01:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yep... that's what the locals want. I assume they could "fix" the foundation just enough so it would be more than every few years that it needs correction and adjustments... It is one of those things that we all grew up seeing at least pictures of and consider it to be important it stays the way it is. I'm not sure I'd think the same of it if they were to decide one day in the near future to actually fix it. cant the still have it lean while still preventing it from toppling over? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 423493Woman of white garment, foreign woman, earth-eating woman, taking and giving life, she is Pele "ONCE IN HIS LIFE, EVERY MAN IS ENTITLED TO FALL MADLY IN LOVE WITH A GORGEOUS REDHEAD" - LUCILLE BALL |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 298610 United States05/01/2008 03:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Leonardo de Pisa, also known as Leonardo Fibonnaci (Fibonnaci spiraling numbers) was the architect of the Leaning tower. His tower is beautiful and has a spiraled staircase up the center of it. Guess he should've hired a better foundational construction crew. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 420698 United States05/01/2008 03:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 420698 United States05/01/2008 03:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The method that IS working currently is to remove soil under the "high" side, which is making it settle back towards vertical instead of going the wrong way. "Antigravity in Pisa" [link to discovermagazine.com] and "Good for another 300" [link to findarticles.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 420698 United States05/01/2008 03:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | its not just leaning, its crooked. would be a piece of crap still if they stood it up. Quoting: Retarded AlienYeah, I just read that - they noticed the lean even while constructing the Tower, so the top levels were constructed off center, skewed, to try to correct the problem. So you're right, you stand it up and it'll look cockeyed. LOL The Italians don't want to stand it up tho, they just want the leaning halted, and it appears the geotech engineers have done that. |
| Geogal (OP) User ID: 373387 United States05/01/2008 12:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Isn't it amazing what man will do to try to get his world to conform to things that are adverse? Like building the tower a little cock-eyed so it would seem to stand straighter due to the foundation having problems. its not just leaning, its crooked. would be a piece of crap still if they stood it up. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 420698Yeah, I just read that - they noticed the lean even while constructing the Tower, so the top levels were constructed off center, skewed, to try to correct the problem. So you're right, you stand it up and it'll look cockeyed. LOL The Italians don't want to stand it up tho, they just want the leaning halted, and it appears the geotech engineers have done that. Woman of white garment, foreign woman, earth-eating woman, taking and giving life, she is Pele "ONCE IN HIS LIFE, EVERY MAN IS ENTITLED TO FALL MADLY IN LOVE WITH A GORGEOUS REDHEAD" - LUCILLE BALL |
| Sireen-reborn User ID: 425272 United States05/01/2008 12:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 15 May Quoting: floydian slip anything after 'but' is bullshit! [link to www.myspace.com] "Once you open your mind to the possibility of conspiracy, you then see conspiracy in everything." [link to deadbydecember-sireen.blogspot.com] |
| Geogal (OP) User ID: 373387 United States05/01/2008 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Excellent articles! Thanks! Soil removal is only one way, but it has it's dangers. Still, amazing what man can do to try to get his environment to conform to his needs... I was wrong, the freezing method didn't work. lol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 420698The method that IS working currently is to remove soil under the "high" side, which is making it settle back towards vertical instead of going the wrong way. "Antigravity in Pisa" [link to discovermagazine.com] and "Good for another 300" [link to findarticles.com] Woman of white garment, foreign woman, earth-eating woman, taking and giving life, she is Pele "ONCE IN HIS LIFE, EVERY MAN IS ENTITLED TO FALL MADLY IN LOVE WITH A GORGEOUS REDHEAD" - LUCILLE BALL |
| Geogal (OP) User ID: 373387 United States05/01/2008 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good morning Sireen. How are you today? 15 May Quoting: Sireen-rebornWoman of white garment, foreign woman, earth-eating woman, taking and giving life, she is Pele "ONCE IN HIS LIFE, EVERY MAN IS ENTITLED TO FALL MADLY IN LOVE WITH A GORGEOUS REDHEAD" - LUCILLE BALL |
| Geogal (OP) User ID: 373387 United States05/01/2008 12:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | its not just leaning, its crooked. would be a piece of crap still if they stood it up. Quoting: Retarded Alien and Love the Avatar! Woman of white garment, foreign woman, earth-eating woman, taking and giving life, she is Pele "ONCE IN HIS LIFE, EVERY MAN IS ENTITLED TO FALL MADLY IN LOVE WITH A GORGEOUS REDHEAD" - LUCILLE BALL |
