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Breaking ***Australian Explosion***,....Tragic, very sad...

 
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Boat explosion's tragic end

May 04, 2008



A HUSBAND and wife are dead and their son's partner is fighting for her life after a boat exploded in a tragic end to a family outing in Melbourne.

EXPLOSION...Two people were killed and six others injured while a boat was being refuelled in Melbourne. /AAP
Three other family members were injured in the fireball, which ripped through the 11-metre cabin cruiser after it was refuelled at Port Melbourne yesterday.

The married couple, aged in their 60s, died instantly in the blast and their bodies were thrown into the water.

The couple's 48-year-old son had only bought the second-hand boat yesterday morning.

It had just been filled with 200 litres of petrol when it exploded at a floating fuel station at Pier 35, just before 2pm (AEST).

Metropolitan Fire Brigade (MFB) Commander Wayne Garrad said the son had just refuelled the boat and was trying unsuccessfully to restart the motor when tragedy struck.

"It caused one hell of a bang,'' Mr Garrad said.

"The boat was just destroyed. The timber and fittings are all in the water. It's just strewn everywhere.''

The dead couple, from South Yarra, had been standing near the stern of the boat.

Their son and his 45-year-old de facto wife, who were standing at the bow, were taken to The Alfred Hospital with burns.

The woman has life-threatening injuries.

Her sister, 46, and 13-year-old nephew were standing on the fuel dock and suffered less serious injuries.

Another man standing with them was uninjured.

The injured boy's brothers, 11, and five, were in a nearby restaurant and escaped the blast.

Witness Gary Patrick was first on scene and said it resembled a war zone.

"To describe it best it was probably like the ship had been torpedoed, a lot of debris, flames on the water,'' he said.

Mr Patrick pulled the injured people from the dock and had to wrench away the boat owner, who was screaming for his dead parents.

"We had to drag him from the water and then forcibly remove him from the marina, as you'd imagine he was pretty upset.''

Metropolitan Ambulance Service (MAS) spokesman Paul Holman said there was nothing that could be done for the elder couple.

"The scene out there is just chaotic,'' he said.

"I've not seen something like that for many years.

"There are just splinters of boat, it's unrecognisable and that anyone in actual fact survived this is amazing.''

Authorities were examining the cause of the blast and the coroner would be investigating.

Search and Rescue Squad members, the MFB and Arson Squad detectives were also on site following the explosion.
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That's terrible. Except when it happens to Australians.
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That's terrible. Except when it happens to Australians.
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God help you, wait until the next storm comes to a place near you!

Within 24 hrs.
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Be careful you two above, there are prophets on this board; heed them or pay the price.

Repent for your words, for your own sake.
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Be careful you two above, there are prophets on this board; heed them or pay the price.

Repent for your words, for your own sake.
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I am a fucking prophet.
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Be careful you two above, there are prophets on this board; heed them or pay the price.

Repent for your words, for your own sake.


I am a fucking prophet.
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Oh I can see that by the language you use.

A false one.
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Terrible

But I don't get it, is this the first time you've heard of people dying?
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I wonder if she was his "de-facto" wife before her relatives realized there might be a profitable lawsuit here...
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I wonder if she was his "de-facto" wife before her relatives realized there might be a profitable lawsuit here...
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Unbelievable.

This is Australia, not America.
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thats sad :( poor guy.
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>I wonder if she was his "de-facto" wife before her relatives realized there might be a profitable lawsuit here...


Unbelievable.

This is Australia, not America.
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Good point. I wonder if she even knew the guy before he and her relatives realized there might be a profitable lawsuit here...
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What the hell is a 'de-facto' wife? You're either married or you are not; there are no in-betweens. Perhaps by now there are other forms of legal partnership, as in the case for homos, but surely those have to filed with the courts, don't they? And why would marital status make any difference in a lawsuit for damages? It doesn't make anyone more or less injured so I don't see how a marriage or lack of same would affect the outcome.
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Explosions are very possible while fueling a boat. That's why all hatches/doors/windows should be closed while the gas is pumped (to prevent gas vapors from collecting below deck). Blowers to engine compartment must be run for several minutes before every launch, and the compartment should be checked for fumes before getting underway. Around where I live there's at least one boat every year involved in one of these explosions, and it's because inexperienced boaters think that, as with their cars, boating is just a matter of turning the key and heading out.

These poor people had only taken possession of the boat the day before this tragic accident occurred. They couldn't have been very familiar with the boat and it's very likely they hadn't gotten around to educating themselves on basic boating safety either. Very sad.
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What the hell is a 'de-facto' wife? You're either married or you are not; there are no in-betweens. Perhaps by now there are other forms of legal partnership, as in the case for homos, but surely those have to filed with the courts, don't they? And why would marital status make any difference in a lawsuit for damages? It doesn't make anyone more or less injured so I don't see how a marriage or lack of same would affect the outcome.
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Live together 6 months and for legal purposes, you're married.
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And why would marital status make any difference in a lawsuit for damages? It doesn't make anyone more or less injured so I don't see how a marriage or lack of same would affect the outcome.
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There's this thing called human nature, and it's unpredictable. If somebody does something and gets people killed, they could get sued for a considerable sum. If somebody gets killed and it happens to tug on the heartstrings of judge and/or jury, that sum can be multiples of a considerable sum. Which is why my tasteless joke is funny...mostly to me and the other twisted, heartless bastards out there.
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I can't find empathy w/ this story.

I have too much bullshit going on in my own life.

Worrying about people I actually know.

So does this make me a bad person...
...that I don't give a shit?

rofl
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Nice bunch of peeps on this thread. Like flies, I guess.
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Explosions are very possible while fueling a boat. That's why all hatches/doors/windows should be closed while the gas is pumped (to prevent gas vapors from collecting below deck). Blowers to engine compartment must be run for several minutes before every launch, and the compartment should be checked for fumes before getting underway. Around where I live there's at least one boat every year involved in one of these explosions, and it's because inexperienced boaters think that, as with their cars, boating is just a matter of turning the key and heading out.

These poor people had only taken possession of the boat the day before this tragic accident occurred. They couldn't have been very familiar with the boat and it's very likely they hadn't gotten around to educating themselves on basic boating safety either. Very sad.
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thanks for that excellent explanation, and for our future reference should we be out with inexperienced boaters!
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What the hell is a 'de-facto' wife? You're either married or you are not; there are no in-betweens. Perhaps by now there are other forms of legal partnership, as in the case for homos, but surely those have to filed with the courts, don't they? And why would marital status make any difference in a lawsuit for damages? It doesn't make anyone more or less injured so I don't see how a marriage or lack of same would affect the outcome.


Live together 6 months and for legal purposes, you're married.
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NO its not that simple.

If either party, after 6 months...up to x amount of years, and they are NOT married, the families of the spouses, if one of them pass away, causes all sorts of 'claims'. Watch the 'in-law' vultures come out when theres money/assets.

If you are NOT married, and one or the other spouse passes on, you are foolish to not have a LEGAL will in place; better still be married, then there is NOTHING THE INLAWS on either side can do in the event of death.
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I can't find empathy w/ this story.

I have too much bullshit going on in my own life.

Worrying about people I actually know.

So does this make me a bad person...
...that I don't give a shit?

rofl
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I suggest you study the word Narcissism.

I also suggest you realise how could you have empathy when all your thinking of the moment is yourself.

Normal balanced people, that live normal honest decent lives have peace on their pillow each night.

I suggest you pursue to find the peace you need.
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I can't find empathy w/ this story.

I have too much bullshit going on in my own life.

Worrying about people I actually know.

So does this make me a bad person...
...that I don't give a shit?

rofl


I suggest you study the word Narcissism.

I also suggest you realise how could you have empathy when all your thinking of the moment is yourself.

Normal balanced people, that live normal honest decent lives have peace on their pillow each night.

I suggest you pursue to find the peace you need.
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Also, you cant give to others, what you deny within yourself, until you love you, you will never understand to love another, let alone be able to feel compassion, mercy and goodness toward others.
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Explosions are very possible while fueling a boat. That's why all hatches/doors/windows should be closed while the gas is pumped (to prevent gas vapors from collecting below deck). Blowers to engine compartment must be run for several minutes before every launch, and the compartment should be checked for fumes before getting underway. Around where I live there's at least one boat every year involved in one of these explosions, and it's because inexperienced boaters think that, as with their cars, boating is just a matter of turning the key and heading out.

These poor people had only taken possession of the boat the day before this tragic accident occurred. They couldn't have been very familiar with the boat and it's very likely they hadn't gotten around to educating themselves on basic boating safety either. Very sad.
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I 'wonder' if they may have any recourse on the previous owner, ie. the reason it was being sold, then again, there's the 'buyer beware', which sadly prevents the innocent from the scammers that are taken advantage of, or caught up in the moment by snakeoil salesmen.
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OP:
Thanks for the article.

To the AC who wrote about fumes and what needs to be done before, during, and after fueling...I tip my hat to you. Spot on. Maybe someone will read your post who did not already know that information, and will remember later.
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It's not narcissism since I care way more about people I encounter in reality or people I actually know in reality than those I "meet" via news.

I mean, in my opinion this isn't even classified as news.

Sorry, but I'm being honest.

But yes, it's a sad story.. a sad ending.. but shit happens.

Also.. something that may relate to the story quite a bit: I don't believe in death. I don't mourn death. I don't celebrate it. I see it as just another stepping stone. So peace be with the dead, all of em.
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Explosions are very possible while fueling a boat. That's why all hatches/doors/windows should be closed while the gas is pumped (to prevent gas vapors from collecting below deck). Blowers to engine compartment must be run for several minutes before every launch, and the compartment should be checked for fumes before getting underway. Around where I live there's at least one boat every year involved in one of these explosions, and it's because inexperienced boaters think that, as with their cars, boating is just a matter of turning the key and heading out.

These poor people had only taken possession of the boat the day before this tragic accident occurred. They couldn't have been very familiar with the boat and it's very likely they hadn't gotten around to educating themselves on basic boating safety either. Very sad.
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WOW, I had no clue.

You would think there would be signs on the gas tank area as a reminder about this.

Those poor people. Thanks for the explanation.
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It's not narcissism since I care way more about people I encounter in reality or people I actually know in reality than those I "meet" via news.

I mean, in my opinion this isn't even classified as news.

Sorry, but I'm being honest.

But yes, it's a sad story.. a sad ending.. but shit happens.

Also.. something that may relate to the story quite a bit: I don't believe in death. I don't mourn death. I don't celebrate it. I see it as just another stepping stone. So peace be with the dead, all of em.
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I can't find empathy w/ this story.

So does this make me a bad person...
...that I don't give a shit?

rofl
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Nah,it makes you 'Mad Vicious son'..
u b whylin' Kid,u already know how we be
up in the Apple,whaaat?


So you've recovered from heart surgery fully,Subtle Technique...or was that 'sudel teq'. *rolls eyes*
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Op,Life is precarious isn't it...
Tragic story.

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rofl

It wasn't heart surgery - far from something that serious.
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I 'wonder' if they may have any recourse on the previous owner, ie. the reason it was being sold, then again, there's the 'buyer beware', which sadly prevents the innocent from the scammers that are taken advantage of, or caught up in the moment by snakeoil salesmen.
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Well, I'm not sure how these transactions work in Australia, but in the U.S. buying a boat this size usually means getting a pretty big loan to cover the purchase. As with a housing loan, the banks here require the purchaser to pay for an inspection of the vessel by a licensed inspector. Of course, if the boat was very old (or the buyers very wealthy), it's possible the new owner might have paid cash (bypassing the inspection requirement) - and in that case it seems they might have recourse to the previous owner (under the lemon law or its equivalent in Australia maybe?) IF there was something actually wrong with the boat.

Unfortunately, based on the details provided in the article, this accident really does sound like a classic case gas vapor build-up in some interior area of the boat. It's so easy for those fumes to collect in trapped areas, and from there all it takes is a spark.

I don't know about Australia, but in the U.S. operating a boat is one of the rare things people can do without a license or any training. I'm all for the freedom in that, but as the old saying goes, with freedom comes responsibility. Boating has such a fun, holiday, party-like feel to it, that it's easy to ignore (or never learn in the first place) the dangers of this activity (and there are many). The sad possibility here is that this family was preparing to take their maiden voyage aboard that boat and figured they'd just learn the ropes as they went along. A very human thing to do, and that's what makes this especially tragic.
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I 'wonder' if they may have any recourse on the previous owner, ie. the reason it was being sold, then again, there's the 'buyer beware', which sadly prevents the innocent from the scammers that are taken advantage of, or caught up in the moment by snakeoil salesmen.


Well, I'm not sure how these transactions work in Australia, but in the U.S. buying a boat this size usually means getting a pretty big loan to cover the purchase. As with a housing loan, the banks here require the purchaser to pay for an inspection of the vessel by a licensed inspector. Of course, if the boat was very old (or the buyers very wealthy), it's possible the new owner might have paid cash (bypassing the inspection requirement) - and in that case it seems they might have recourse to the previous owner (under the lemon law or its equivalent in Australia maybe?) IF there was something actually wrong with the boat.

Unfortunately, based on the details provided in the article, this accident really does sound like a classic case gas vapor build-up in some interior area of the boat. It's so easy for those fumes to collect in trapped areas, and from there all it takes is a spark.

I don't know about Australia, but in the U.S. operating a boat is one of the rare things people can do without a license or any training. I'm all for the freedom in that, but as the old saying goes, with freedom comes responsibility. Boating has such a fun, holiday, party-like feel to it, that it's easy to ignore (or never learn in the first place) the dangers of this activity (and there are many). The sad possibility here is that this family was preparing to take their maiden voyage aboard that boat and figured they'd just learn the ropes as they went along. A very human thing to do, and that's what makes this especially tragic.
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Thanks for that excellent information.

I'll keep you posted here on any devoping stories.

Its just so very very sad...after reading your comment 'on them perhaps being wealthy, it very well may have been a cash deal. Due to the ages of the elderly folk killed, it could have been their 'retirement' funds, giving a gift of money to the son etc to purchase the boat??

www.theaustralian.com.au will keep you updated.

Its been an amazing sad and tragic week on Sydney Harbour, its, I think the 4/5 boating tragedy around the harbour in the past week!!! Its certainly not an every day/week thing, just seems freaky its happened so many times in this pass few days gone by.

Its a valuable post here for others to see the dangers in fuels replentishment etc.

Thats the funny thing in life, we sadly have to hear of such tragic news, to hear about safety issues we need to heed for our own good.

thanks again, cheers
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I can't find empathy w/ this story.

I have too much bullshit going on in my own life.

Worrying about people I actually know.

So does this make me a bad person...
...that I don't give a shit?

rofl
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