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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 427274 Australia 05/03/2008 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Be careful you two above, there are prophets on this board; heed them or pay the price. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 427279Repent for your words, for your own sake. I am a fucking prophet. Oh I can see that by the language you use. A false one. |
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BriZzNiTcH User ID: 420732 United States 05/03/2008 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | thats sad :( poor guy. |
st1d User ID: 357109 United States 05/03/2008 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | >I wonder if she was his "de-facto" wife before her relatives realized there might be a profitable lawsuit here... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 427274Unbelievable. This is Australia, not America. Good point. I wonder if she even knew the guy before he and her relatives realized there might be a profitable lawsuit here... Be offended. It's my gift to you. For a few seconds, it means you're awake... |
erimia User ID: 90233 United States 05/03/2008 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What the hell is a 'de-facto' wife? You're either married or you are not; there are no in-betweens. Perhaps by now there are other forms of legal partnership, as in the case for homos, but surely those have to filed with the courts, don't they? And why would marital status make any difference in a lawsuit for damages? It doesn't make anyone more or less injured so I don't see how a marriage or lack of same would affect the outcome. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 336381 United States 05/03/2008 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Explosions are very possible while fueling a boat. That's why all hatches/doors/windows should be closed while the gas is pumped (to prevent gas vapors from collecting below deck). Blowers to engine compartment must be run for several minutes before every launch, and the compartment should be checked for fumes before getting underway. Around where I live there's at least one boat every year involved in one of these explosions, and it's because inexperienced boaters think that, as with their cars, boating is just a matter of turning the key and heading out. These poor people had only taken possession of the boat the day before this tragic accident occurred. They couldn't have been very familiar with the boat and it's very likely they hadn't gotten around to educating themselves on basic boating safety either. Very sad. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 427279 Australia 05/03/2008 12:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What the hell is a 'de-facto' wife? You're either married or you are not; there are no in-betweens. Perhaps by now there are other forms of legal partnership, as in the case for homos, but surely those have to filed with the courts, don't they? And why would marital status make any difference in a lawsuit for damages? It doesn't make anyone more or less injured so I don't see how a marriage or lack of same would affect the outcome. Quoting: erimia 90233Live together 6 months and for legal purposes, you're married. |
st1d User ID: 357109 United States 05/03/2008 01:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And why would marital status make any difference in a lawsuit for damages? It doesn't make anyone more or less injured so I don't see how a marriage or lack of same would affect the outcome. Quoting: erimia 90233There's this thing called human nature, and it's unpredictable. If somebody does something and gets people killed, they could get sued for a considerable sum. If somebody gets killed and it happens to tug on the heartstrings of judge and/or jury, that sum can be multiples of a considerable sum. Which is why my tasteless joke is funny...mostly to me and the other twisted, heartless bastards out there. Be offended. It's my gift to you. For a few seconds, it means you're awake... |
*Vishuz User ID: 374870 United States 05/03/2008 01:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have too much bullshit going on in my own life. Worrying about people I actually know. So does this make me a bad person... ...that I don't give a shit? The blackening of roses will send you to the edges of the land/ The emerald tablets of Thoth the Atlantean/ The hands of the mighty Lion of Judah/ Will throw you through the triangular portals of Bermuda/ Exploring the Hologramic aspects of consciousness/ |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 317795 United States 05/03/2008 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Explosions are very possible while fueling a boat. That's why all hatches/doors/windows should be closed while the gas is pumped (to prevent gas vapors from collecting below deck). Blowers to engine compartment must be run for several minutes before every launch, and the compartment should be checked for fumes before getting underway. Around where I live there's at least one boat every year involved in one of these explosions, and it's because inexperienced boaters think that, as with their cars, boating is just a matter of turning the key and heading out. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 336381These poor people had only taken possession of the boat the day before this tragic accident occurred. They couldn't have been very familiar with the boat and it's very likely they hadn't gotten around to educating themselves on basic boating safety either. Very sad. thanks for that excellent explanation, and for our future reference should we be out with inexperienced boaters! |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 427274 Australia 05/03/2008 02:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What the hell is a 'de-facto' wife? You're either married or you are not; there are no in-betweens. Perhaps by now there are other forms of legal partnership, as in the case for homos, but surely those have to filed with the courts, don't they? And why would marital status make any difference in a lawsuit for damages? It doesn't make anyone more or less injured so I don't see how a marriage or lack of same would affect the outcome. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 427279Live together 6 months and for legal purposes, you're married. NO its not that simple. If either party, after 6 months...up to x amount of years, and they are NOT married, the families of the spouses, if one of them pass away, causes all sorts of 'claims'. Watch the 'in-law' vultures come out when theres money/assets. If you are NOT married, and one or the other spouse passes on, you are foolish to not have a LEGAL will in place; better still be married, then there is NOTHING THE INLAWS on either side can do in the event of death. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 427274 Australia 05/03/2008 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can't find empathy w/ this story. Quoting: *VishuzI have too much bullshit going on in my own life. Worrying about people I actually know. So does this make me a bad person... ...that I don't give a shit? I suggest you study the word Narcissism. I also suggest you realise how could you have empathy when all your thinking of the moment is yourself. Normal balanced people, that live normal honest decent lives have peace on their pillow each night. I suggest you pursue to find the peace you need. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 427274 Australia 05/03/2008 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can't find empathy w/ this story. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 427274I have too much bullshit going on in my own life. Worrying about people I actually know. So does this make me a bad person... ...that I don't give a shit? I suggest you study the word Narcissism. I also suggest you realise how could you have empathy when all your thinking of the moment is yourself. Normal balanced people, that live normal honest decent lives have peace on their pillow each night. I suggest you pursue to find the peace you need. Also, you cant give to others, what you deny within yourself, until you love you, you will never understand to love another, let alone be able to feel compassion, mercy and goodness toward others. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 427274 Australia 05/03/2008 02:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Explosions are very possible while fueling a boat. That's why all hatches/doors/windows should be closed while the gas is pumped (to prevent gas vapors from collecting below deck). Blowers to engine compartment must be run for several minutes before every launch, and the compartment should be checked for fumes before getting underway. Around where I live there's at least one boat every year involved in one of these explosions, and it's because inexperienced boaters think that, as with their cars, boating is just a matter of turning the key and heading out. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 336381These poor people had only taken possession of the boat the day before this tragic accident occurred. They couldn't have been very familiar with the boat and it's very likely they hadn't gotten around to educating themselves on basic boating safety either. Very sad. I 'wonder' if they may have any recourse on the previous owner, ie. the reason it was being sold, then again, there's the 'buyer beware', which sadly prevents the innocent from the scammers that are taken advantage of, or caught up in the moment by snakeoil salesmen. |
RHSC User ID: 422626 United States 05/03/2008 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP: Thanks for the article. To the AC who wrote about fumes and what needs to be done before, during, and after fueling...I tip my hat to you. Spot on. Maybe someone will read your post who did not already know that information, and will remember later. |
*Vishuz User ID: 374870 United States 05/03/2008 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not narcissism since I care way more about people I encounter in reality or people I actually know in reality than those I "meet" via news. I mean, in my opinion this isn't even classified as news. Sorry, but I'm being honest. But yes, it's a sad story.. a sad ending.. but shit happens. Also.. something that may relate to the story quite a bit: I don't believe in death. I don't mourn death. I don't celebrate it. I see it as just another stepping stone. So peace be with the dead, all of em. The blackening of roses will send you to the edges of the land/ The emerald tablets of Thoth the Atlantean/ The hands of the mighty Lion of Judah/ Will throw you through the triangular portals of Bermuda/ Exploring the Hologramic aspects of consciousness/ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 368888 United States 05/03/2008 02:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Explosions are very possible while fueling a boat. That's why all hatches/doors/windows should be closed while the gas is pumped (to prevent gas vapors from collecting below deck). Blowers to engine compartment must be run for several minutes before every launch, and the compartment should be checked for fumes before getting underway. Around where I live there's at least one boat every year involved in one of these explosions, and it's because inexperienced boaters think that, as with their cars, boating is just a matter of turning the key and heading out. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 336381These poor people had only taken possession of the boat the day before this tragic accident occurred. They couldn't have been very familiar with the boat and it's very likely they hadn't gotten around to educating themselves on basic boating safety either. Very sad. WOW, I had no clue. You would think there would be signs on the gas tank area as a reminder about this. Those poor people. Thanks for the explanation. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 427274 Australia 05/03/2008 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not narcissism since I care way more about people I encounter in reality or people I actually know in reality than those I "meet" via news. Quoting: *VishuzI mean, in my opinion this isn't even classified as news. Sorry, but I'm being honest. But yes, it's a sad story.. a sad ending.. but shit happens. Also.. something that may relate to the story quite a bit: I don't believe in death. I don't mourn death. I don't celebrate it. I see it as just another stepping stone. So peace be with the dead, all of em. There are hidden treasures inside of you, search for them, your life will be happier. Life is not a dress rehersal; its a one time show only, and I pray you will find Christ, before you die, for eternity, is a very long time. And if you pass on, and realise, you oops-ed in thinking there is no afterlife, there is no second chance. www.raystedman.org www.khouse.org God loves you, remember that. You'll never know real joy, until you know His. |
Atomic Air Six User ID: 292560 United States 05/03/2008 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can't find empathy w/ this story. Quoting: *VishuzSo does this make me a bad person... ...that I don't give a shit? Nah,it makes you 'Mad Vicious son'.. u b whylin' Kid,u already know how we be up in the Apple,whaaat? So you've recovered from heart surgery fully,Subtle Technique...or was that 'sudel teq'. *rolls eyes* ======== Op,Life is precarious isn't it... Tragic story. "It isn't about what you & I think, it's about what is." |
*Vishuz User ID: 374870 United States 05/03/2008 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It wasn't heart surgery - far from something that serious. The blackening of roses will send you to the edges of the land/ The emerald tablets of Thoth the Atlantean/ The hands of the mighty Lion of Judah/ Will throw you through the triangular portals of Bermuda/ Exploring the Hologramic aspects of consciousness/ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 336381 United States 05/03/2008 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I 'wonder' if they may have any recourse on the previous owner, ie. the reason it was being sold, then again, there's the 'buyer beware', which sadly prevents the innocent from the scammers that are taken advantage of, or caught up in the moment by snakeoil salesmen. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 427274Well, I'm not sure how these transactions work in Australia, but in the U.S. buying a boat this size usually means getting a pretty big loan to cover the purchase. As with a housing loan, the banks here require the purchaser to pay for an inspection of the vessel by a licensed inspector. Of course, if the boat was very old (or the buyers very wealthy), it's possible the new owner might have paid cash (bypassing the inspection requirement) - and in that case it seems they might have recourse to the previous owner (under the lemon law or its equivalent in Australia maybe?) IF there was something actually wrong with the boat. Unfortunately, based on the details provided in the article, this accident really does sound like a classic case gas vapor build-up in some interior area of the boat. It's so easy for those fumes to collect in trapped areas, and from there all it takes is a spark. I don't know about Australia, but in the U.S. operating a boat is one of the rare things people can do without a license or any training. I'm all for the freedom in that, but as the old saying goes, with freedom comes responsibility. Boating has such a fun, holiday, party-like feel to it, that it's easy to ignore (or never learn in the first place) the dangers of this activity (and there are many). The sad possibility here is that this family was preparing to take their maiden voyage aboard that boat and figured they'd just learn the ropes as they went along. A very human thing to do, and that's what makes this especially tragic. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 427274 Australia 05/03/2008 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I 'wonder' if they may have any recourse on the previous owner, ie. the reason it was being sold, then again, there's the 'buyer beware', which sadly prevents the innocent from the scammers that are taken advantage of, or caught up in the moment by snakeoil salesmen. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 336381Well, I'm not sure how these transactions work in Australia, but in the U.S. buying a boat this size usually means getting a pretty big loan to cover the purchase. As with a housing loan, the banks here require the purchaser to pay for an inspection of the vessel by a licensed inspector. Of course, if the boat was very old (or the buyers very wealthy), it's possible the new owner might have paid cash (bypassing the inspection requirement) - and in that case it seems they might have recourse to the previous owner (under the lemon law or its equivalent in Australia maybe?) IF there was something actually wrong with the boat. Unfortunately, based on the details provided in the article, this accident really does sound like a classic case gas vapor build-up in some interior area of the boat. It's so easy for those fumes to collect in trapped areas, and from there all it takes is a spark. I don't know about Australia, but in the U.S. operating a boat is one of the rare things people can do without a license or any training. I'm all for the freedom in that, but as the old saying goes, with freedom comes responsibility. Boating has such a fun, holiday, party-like feel to it, that it's easy to ignore (or never learn in the first place) the dangers of this activity (and there are many). The sad possibility here is that this family was preparing to take their maiden voyage aboard that boat and figured they'd just learn the ropes as they went along. A very human thing to do, and that's what makes this especially tragic. Thanks for that excellent information. I'll keep you posted here on any devoping stories. Its just so very very sad...after reading your comment 'on them perhaps being wealthy, it very well may have been a cash deal. Due to the ages of the elderly folk killed, it could have been their 'retirement' funds, giving a gift of money to the son etc to purchase the boat?? www.theaustralian.com.au will keep you updated. Its been an amazing sad and tragic week on Sydney Harbour, its, I think the 4/5 boating tragedy around the harbour in the past week!!! Its certainly not an every day/week thing, just seems freaky its happened so many times in this pass few days gone by. Its a valuable post here for others to see the dangers in fuels replentishment etc. Thats the funny thing in life, we sadly have to hear of such tragic news, to hear about safety issues we need to heed for our own good. thanks again, cheers |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 427357 United States 05/03/2008 03:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can't find empathy w/ this story. Quoting: *VishuzI have too much bullshit going on in my own life. Worrying about people I actually know. So does this make me a bad person... ...that I don't give a shit? "Ask not for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee." John Donne |