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ZetaTalk LIVE Chat May 3
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planttheworld
User ID: 393149
5/3/2008 7:45 PM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat May 3 | Quote |
Sorry, I managed to "tag" this where unintended.
Hi Nancy,
I am sorry that I don't have the link from the weekly Zetatalk or maybe Newsletter that I recall this from, but I will ask. The Zetas said something to the effect that everyone alive today...for the shift...chose to be here during this time? I appologize for not finding the link, but at the time, it took my breath away. What would cause a soul to return during such times. To help others? To deter the mean hearted? To help with the future of those who survive? I've often wondered why are we here (or still alive) during this era? I would like to think we'd be of assistance, but the youth of today are so fast and (many) seem so advanced, how can they possibly need us? They would prosper a million time over just being with the hybrids. Why us who are just....common? Thank you Nancy for all you do. |
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Nancy Lieder  
Forum Moderator
User ID: 427418
5/3/2008 7:47 PM
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The Zeta's have previously stated a majority of humans will go psychotic during or after the shift. Now, if a person is aware of the possibility of a shift and potential horror of it all, does this offer some degree of protection against such mental breakdowns? And if not, how can one further protect ones mental state so that he/she can be of most benefit for others.
SOZT
Clearly, being able to face the future realistically is a great help in avoiding a breakdown. Mental illness is forced on one for a number of reasons. Te genetic propensity for chemical disruption in the brain is one, which is why the propensity for mental illness runs in families. The inability to escape a situation deemed intolerable is another, the source of post traumatic stress in soldiers who are not allowed to leave the battlefield and are told to perform atrocious acts they would not normally perform. Great loss does not normally cause insanity but rather depression, and the antidote for depression is to take ACTION. This is why we have advised that group leaders have an action plan for the hours after the pole shift, so that everyone is busy doing SOMETHING, if only gathering the broken crockery and preparing a group meal. Exercise, the ability to take action to set things right, is a great cure for depression.
EOZT
First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi. |
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Last Man
User ID: 427445
5/3/2008 7:47 PM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat May 3 | Quote |
The uptick from the DeBunkers, on this site,after this session is unbelievable. The Zetas said that this was to be expected,Denial of the PX--- truth,at all costs. |
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Circuit Breaker
User ID: 388107
5/3/2008 7:49 PM
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SOZT
Conflicting reports about whether she had intentions or not show that this was NOT a suicide. Quoting: Nancy Lieder
Why not? Just because she hadn't been sentenced yet doesn't mean she wasn't highly upset and depressed over being caught and potentially serving time in jail.
In addition, why would someone wanting to commit suicide chose STRAGULATION? Aren’t pills available, or slitting the wrist? The body RESISTS being strangled, and thrashes.
EOZT Quoting: Nancy Lieder
And yet lots of people commit suicide by hanging themselves. So, why is it not possible she did the same? I'm not saying she definitely committed suicide, but your claim that she was murdered is no more valid than the claim that she committed suicide. Without more information or evidence, either one could be true. Although, if she were murdered by a "John," no one would have any reason to cover that up, so if the media is reporting her death as a suicide then that claim is based on the evidence at hand. |
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jas1977
User ID: 426654
5/3/2008 7:51 PM
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Nancy, I have looked at the sky at night, I have seen that the constellation of Orion and Cruzeiro of South, is out of position. As might have changed the sets, where the sun and moon are in the same position? Or, the solar system handled regarding the milky way?
Thank you
Sérgio Sanderson - from Brazil
I have noticed the same !!!! Quoting: Mona Lisa 425821
Also the moon the sun is a dead give away!
We know by the method of looking at something and recognizing its correctness. It is a spiritual ablility. I believe we all have it.
Author Dr. Isabelle A. Moser |
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Circuit Breaker
User ID: 388107
5/3/2008 7:51 PM
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I have noticed the same !!!! Quoting: Mona Lisa 425821
Based on what? Tell us, where should these constellations be in the first place? |
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Nancy Lieder
Forum Moderator
User ID: 427418
5/3/2008 7:52 PM
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Hi Nancy - Can the zetas comment on what they know of the mindset of Congress regarding holding public hearings or otherwise forcing some sort of "disclosure" to make the public aware of just why the ongoing earth changes etc. that will be evident after the Bush & Cheney cabal are removed from power on 1/20/09? The zetas have indicated we should reach past 60% of the signs and changes by that time, and wouldn't the authorities run the risk of public riots and potential martial law if they simply continued to do nothing?
SOZT
We stated that on a scale of 1-10, with the present state at earlier in the year being between 2-3, that we would predict a 6 on this scale by the end of the year. We stated that this would not only include Earth changes such as weather and earthquakes and crop failures, but also sociological changes such as riots and economic depression and potential martial law in parts of the world. We have also discussed the likelihood of a general announcement about the coming passage. This is highly UNLIKELY, because the public in any country would demand to know what the government plans to do to protect and care for them, and such care and protection is impossible to promise. It is likely to be the last weeks, or close to this point in time, before any such announcement would be made. At that time, the announcement would include the fact that the government cannot care for its citizenry, suggested steps such citizenry might take to help themselves, and more or less that those in government will see the survivors at the other end of the expected catastrophes and good luck to all!
EOZT
First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi. |
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Circuit Breaker
User ID: 388107
5/3/2008 7:54 PM
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Also the moon the sun is a dead give away! Quoting: jas1977
A dead giveaway to what? |
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Solar Guy
User ID: 426491
5/3/2008 7:55 PM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat May 3 | Quote |
Nancy, now that Ron Weinland has made an accurate prediction of a natural occurance on the 17th of April (the Earthquakes in the midwest) will the Zetas comment on him?
Now he says 45 to 90 days from the 17th of April there will be nukes going off in some port cities. He was right about the 17th; Is he right about the nukes? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 407693
5/3/2008 7:55 PM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat May 3 | Quote |
I have noticed the same !!!!
Based on what? Tell us, where should these constellations be in the first place? Quoting: Circuit Breaker
You.... Pay $10 a month so you don't get banned from these sessions, after your cronies do. |
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Nancy Lieder
Forum Moderator
User ID: 427418
5/3/2008 7:56 PM
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What is going on with the Reverend Wright speaking out and making Obama look bad is he basically suffering from his ego getting hurt?
SOZT
Write retired early because of the uproar over his videotaped sermons, and resented this. He saw himself not only put out to pasture but also misunderstood, left with a damaged reputation. Resentful of the oppression of white people over the decades, when blacks were not allowed to vote and were discriminated against in the job market, he was furious to see himself treated as an extremist and not given credit for his good work over the decades. He had no thought to the damage he might be doing to Obama, and only now is considering the damage he might have done to someone who was not responsible for the media’s attacks against him. His resentment toward whites and the media could be seen from his antics when given the spotlight.
EOZT
First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 407693
5/3/2008 7:56 PM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat May 3 | Quote |
Also the moon the sun is a dead give away!
A dead giveaway to what? Quoting: Circuit Breaker
Anyways, shouldn't you be pampering your fat wife in Florida? It's a Saturday evening, take some time off from this website. |
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George
User ID: 427404
5/3/2008 7:57 PM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat May 3 | Quote |
Greetings and Salutations
I can perceive the possibility that there could be flesh and blood Human DNA beings that could evolve themselves into being able to do much not normally functions of an Earthborn.
My question is, As it is seen now : Are such beings currently developing that they are going to be a help to those fortunate to be in neighboring vicinity?
And a related question: Is there any efforts being made by whoever other than the individuals concerned to hinder their developments. In other words are there beings who do not want humans developing that are able to reach out somehow and affect negatively those individuals enough to prevent evolvement? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 393149
5/3/2008 7:58 PM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat May 3 | Quote |
It seems incredibly cold in the northern hemisphere this year at least here in CO. Most of the plants I planted died, and it feel more like late fall than mid-Spring. What happens again after this "stuck in Sept" weather pattern? Game over? |
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Nancy Lieder
Forum Moderator
User ID: 427418
5/3/2008 7:58 PM
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Do aliens use naturally occuring drugs like psilocybin mushrooms to explore altered states of consciousness like humans do?
SOZT
3rd Density cultures, which would be considered to be aliens to humans, might have psychoactive agents they employ, as man does, but those in the Service-to-Other do not use escape methods when dealing with reality. We all work together to change this reality for the betterment of others, and consider escape an avoidance of responsibility. As to what those in the STS do, on their planets, we cannot say as we do not mingle with them.
EOZT
First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 427453
5/3/2008 7:59 PM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat May 3 | Quote |
USSR is now on alert for Mossad in House.
Moscow riddled with MI5. |
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sasha
User ID: 190758
5/3/2008 8:00 PM
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What is all this about the hadron collider experiment suppose to be operational from switzerland in may of this year, this month sometime? Quoting: sasha 190758
maybe you didnt see this question, their is alot of talk about this hadron collider, don't know if you answered yet in previous chats.
Live Life To The Fullest As It May End Most Abruptly. Give The Upmost Respect To All Beings. |
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Nancy Lieder
Forum Moderator
User ID: 427418
5/3/2008 8:02 PM
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Seems like economy (dollar) will collapse before December. Can you give us any more insight on this?
SOZT
We have stated that we anticipate a slow drop, with increasing inflation and such techniques as price control and limited banking hours and services to prevent bank failures and limited shopping access to prevent hoarding. The barter system will creep up as a means of dealing with the inability to get goods and services on the official market, as many will be without jobs and find a black market approach an opportunity. The pole shift will arrive before the dollar drops so low that the US economy cannot function.
First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi. |
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Curious
User ID: 397790
5/3/2008 8:04 PM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat May 3 | Quote |
Would the Zeta's care to comment on why the police fatally shot a man who clearly identified himself as a CIA agent?
"The man Houston police fatally shot after an hour long chase Tuesday had shown a card identifying him as a CIA employee to officers who stopped him earlier for speeding, authorities said Wednesday."
[link to www.chron.com]
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 368888
5/3/2008 8:05 PM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat May 3 | Quote |
Seems like economy (dollar) will collapse before December. Can you give us any more insight on this?
SOZT
We have stated that we anticipate a slow drop, with increasing inflation and such techniques as price control and limited banking hours and services to prevent bank failures and limited shopping access to prevent hoarding. The barter system will creep up as a means of dealing with the inability to get goods and services on the official market, as many will be without jobs and find a black market approach an opportunity. The pole shift will arrive before the dollar drops so low that the US economy cannot function. Quoting: Nancy Lieder
Thank you for your answers and your time Nancy. |
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CanadianVandal
Planet X is closing in....
User ID: 425944
5/3/2008 8:07 PM
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I'm late sorry- pretyped these
Can humans communicate telepathically with animals? I had an odd experience this weekend that I won't forget. I was in my apartment on my computer when I noticed a large bird landed on the roof by my balcony. I noticed it because rarely you see birds flying around here in the desert, Phoenix. So I noticed the bird, it was facing away from me and I was just looking at it, admiring it. I started thinking if I could could telepathically tell it to turn around and face me. I just kept looking at it thinking something like you should turn around and with in about 15 seconds slowly it started turning around. It turned completely around and I swear it looked right at me and started moving it's head back and forth as birds do, while looking at me. My first thought was holllly shit. After staring at each other for a bit it flew away. How much could a bird understand? Can they respond to simple messages if they are in the mood/curious enough to be bothered?
How much does molestation effect a 4 year old? I just found out my older brother was molested in a "Kinder Care Learning Center" back in the 80s in a bathtub by a male employee. A female employee walked in on it and my brother said that he only remembers the look of "horror" in her eyes, on her face. He has mental problems over reacting,so much drama,ADHD, just somewhat messed up mentally. I now know why he acts the ways he does and I have never felt rage like this before. My blood is boiling for the first time ever. I want to track down this sick mother fucker and put a bullet in his head. I did a search in google and found out the exact Kinder Care still in operation. I found a review on google "My son used to attend this daycare and I pulled him out because the place is not run professionally at all! My son would come home with bruises and scratches and they just "didn't know what happened."" Date March 2008.How many children have been abused there in the last 20 years!!?? Disgusting. This made my blood boil to the point it is at now, ready to scream bloody murder. I just called child protective services but after talking to them I think they are probably useless. How well do children protection agencies do at actually protecting kids? Do they ever actually protect kids or are they just another useless bureaucracy? I'm about to throw up thinking of the amount of kids that have been abused at this "learning center" in the last 20 years. Sexual molestation of innocent defenseless children is the sickest crime possible to commit. What makes these people commit such disgusting despicable acts on innocent children? I will never find the "man"[coward-not a real man] who did this but do I at least get the minor comfort of knowing that his next planet will be a hell planet???
I just looked up personality disorder and it fits him perfectly, his whole life and personality make sense now. I'm so angry some sicker fucker messed up my brothers life for his own sick sexual satisfaction. |
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Nancy Lieder
Forum Moderator
User ID: 427418
5/3/2008 8:09 PM
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Was there any possible second sun sightings before the year 2003?
SOZT
No. The Second Sun is caused by sunlight reflecting off the massive dust cloud shrouding Planet X, and thence bouncing toward Earth. This occurred in 2003 when Planet X entered the solar system from the opposite side of the Sun from where the Earth was at that time in her orbit. Such a reflection will be possible again when Planet X is somewhat to the right of the Sun in the line of view from the northern hemisphere, a position it will assume when the Earth begins to lean to the left prior to the 3 days of darkness. Prior to 2003, Planet X was too far out from the Sun for much reflection of light to occur, though it was visible from observatories in 2001, captured on infrared in early 2002, and captured on CCD images in late 2002 and into early 2003, and then seen in the evening sky in the spring of 2003. All this is well documented on the website maintained by Nancy.
EOZT
First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi. |
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KinGeorgiii
User ID: 427404
5/3/2008 8:11 PM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat May 3 | Quote |
is it possible for a band of humans together and 'merely' with the use of mind to disrupt/influence the efforts of the tyrants that are presuming to own us common people
such as to crash the electronics running HAARP
or similar effects for the benefit of freedom of Humans to evolve further in greater numbers?
is any potential seen for potential "Resistance" without actually taking up material arms and merely becoming a martyr? |
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Nancy Lieder
Forum Moderator
User ID: 427418
5/3/2008 8:13 PM
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A new movie with a 200 million dollar budget called "2012" is soon to be produced. It involves a family going on vacation and some horrible events occurring based on the prophecy of Mayan calender.
[link to www.slashfilm.com]
Obviously, this would seem to be a film warning about the coming poleshift so just asking if this in fact the case and who was at the top for pushing this film to be made?
SOZT
2012 is the popular and APPROVED date for the end times, as it is so far off that those in authority do not feel threatened by its use. It also, when based on the Mayan calendar, is not specific about CAUSE, unlike our description of the coming passage which points to a body near the Sun causing a wobble and erratic weather and all. Our details can be confirmed, whereas the nebulous end times asserted by the 2012 date crowd cannot be confirmed. Yes, this is an attempt to get the public to think about this. Names would not be helpful as those behind such a push are not known to the public, and would deny any such push or knowledge in any case.
EOZT
First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi. |
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Nancy Lieder
Forum Moderator
User ID: 427418
5/3/2008 8:13 PM
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Question: It seems the tremendous increase in tornadoes in the past week must be due to the approach of Nibiru. Is this in response to the wobble, and will it settle down soon or should we expect even more and worse after the "traditional" end of the tornado season?
SOZT
Yes, this is due to the wobble, and no, it will not settle down, and yes, it will get worse.
EOZT
First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi. |
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Nancy Lieder
Forum Moderator
User ID: 427418
5/3/2008 8:16 PM
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Humanity is watching dozens of films that talk about global warming, on recycling, deforestation, pollution, new forms of energy, tsunamis endnquakes. This issue of the planet is more important than the purpose of choosing the spiritual tonic? The planet has every time the universe, and has its values of recovery work continuously, and we humans, we do not have much time, what we must do better to steer the hierariquias the good?
Thank you
Sérgio Sanderson, from Brazil
SOZT
These are all choices than mankind can make, and each individual soul must make their OWN choices in this regard.
EOZT
First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi. |
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Nancy Lieder
Forum Moderator
User ID: 427418
5/3/2008 8:17 PM
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Of how much use could doctors and nurses be post shift? Or, as being without medical equipment, antibiotics, drugs etc. will their skills and knowledge be largely of little benefit to the welfare of survival groups?
SOZT
Obviously, doctors and nurses have skills that will benefit a survival community. They know how to set bones, how to counteract shock, and how to deal with fever to prevent brain damage, for instance.
EOZT
First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 427453
5/3/2008 8:20 PM | | Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat May 3 | Quote |
Nancy: Running your Website-is it harder to get through?
Filters in place-Yahoo-Google-MSM-etc-??? |
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Nancy Lieder
Forum Moderator
User ID: 427418
5/3/2008 8:21 PM
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Will the ability to have OBE's be of any use during the pole shift. For example, in locating family or friends or planning an escape or travel route?
SOZT
Most humans do not know how to go OOB, as we have explained,
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
since this is a skill of the soul and not the human. Unless the soul has previously learned this trick, it cannot willfully go OOB. This can occur during extreme pain and duress such as torture, or when the soul anticipated the body will die as during an accident or surgery. Once learned, the soul wants to go OOB frequently as it is a great way to gain information, but this is discouraged by the Spirit Guides. It is considered skipping out of school, not attending to the lessons that life brings. Thus, using OOB to visit loved ones after the shift is unlikely to be the route. More likely, telepathy and visits on space ships assisted by the visitors. Give the Call, and get hooked up!
EOZT
First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi. |
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Nancy Lieder
Forum Moderator
User ID: 427418
5/3/2008 8:29 PM
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Hi Nancy,
I am sorry that I don't have the link from the weekly Zetatalk or maybe Newsletter that I recall this from, but I will ask. The Zetas said something to the effect that everyone alive today...for the shift...chose to be here during this time? I appologize for not finding the link, but at the time, it took my breath away. What would cause a soul to return during such times. To help others? To deter the mean hearted? To help with the future of those who survive? I've often wondered why are we here (or still alive) during this era? I would like to think we'd be of assistance, but the youth of today are so fast and (many) seem so advanced, how can they possibly need us? They would prosper a million time over just being with the hybrids. Why us who are just....common? Thank you Nancy for all you do.
SOZT
Souls currently incarnated on Earth are aware of the coming pole shift if they have experienced a pole shift in their past, or if their current incarnation is concerned enough to give the Call and learn these facts from the visitors. Those who have experienced a pole shift in the past, or perhaps many such pole shifts, discussed the coming times with the Birthing Guides before their current incarnation and often have been placed in a setting that would facilitate what ever lessons were to be learned for that particular soul. A soul cannot simply decides NOT to incarnate until life might be better. This is not a decision of the individual soul, whatever nonsense might be claimed by others. Souls do not CHOSE their life circumstances, the life circumstances are chosen for them. Why would any STS leaning soul chose to be born into poverty or into a crippled body?
EOZT
First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi. |
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