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Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 428628 5/6/2008 11:41 AM | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote |
This needs to be pinned IMHO. Quoting: BadMoonRising 373223
you got your wish OP. |
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Theteck User ID: 428817 5/6/2008 11:50 AM | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote | its a weird sign
maybe all volcano go awake soon |
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BadMoonRising User ID: 373223 (OP) 5/6/2008 11:51 AM | |
BadMoonRising User ID: 373223 (OP) 5/6/2008 11:53 AM | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote | Rodrigo Rojas of the National Emergency Office said the situation had deteriorated suddenly.
"Today the volcano is erupting with pyroclastic material on a different scale," he told Reuters news agency. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 428628 5/6/2008 12:00 PM | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote | [link to www.lun.com]
yep, on a DIFFERENT SCALE to THAT ^^ there!
No wonder CNN just cut us all off! |
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Gaius Germaincus User ID: 412005 5/6/2008 12:02 PM
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Rodrigo Rojas of the National Emergency Office said the situation had deteriorated suddenly.
"Today the volcano is erupting with pyroclastic material on a different scale," he told Reuters news agency. Quoting: BadMoonRising 373223
pyroclastic material is some serious stuff you do not want to be in the way of. It is also a sign of intensity and the changing composition of what is being coughed up. I think Vesuvius had 5 or 6 pyroclastic storm surges as the ash column colapsed in 79AD. I am not sure how many Pinatubo had in '91. Which was also a rhyolistic caldera like Chaiten, as compared to Mt. V's strato.
So perhaps it took a few days to clear its throat and is now ready to sing?
Any Voclcanolgists able to read the tea leaves for whats next? Utinam populus Romanus unam cervicem haberet! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 428628 5/6/2008 12:07 PM | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote | well, seeing as Pinatubo erupted for, I think 2 days,(not certain about) and this thing is into it's FIFTH day now, and is now erupting ''on a different scale'', and is 50% bigger than Pinatubo, and Pinatubo lowered global temps by 2 degrees C, and etc etc etc etc, it's not hard to see where we're going here, is it?
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futrono User ID: 428229 5/6/2008 12:10 PM | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote | The main(old) crater is now inactive. A new one approx. 500 yards away is the main source of eruption right now...
A good video [link to emoltv.emol.com] |
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futrono User ID: 428229 5/6/2008 12:13 PM | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 428658 5/6/2008 12:14 PM | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote | Could this be playing in to the sudden spike in the price of oil futures? Betting on increased demand for heating oil/nat. gas if things cool off a bit? |
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Gaius Germaincus User ID: 412005 5/6/2008 12:23 PM
 | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote | 10 miles away lies Minchinnavida, at 2404 meters tall as compared to Chiaten 1122m, a strat, last eruption 1835. Mayhaps they share some connection like Katami-Novarupta?
BTW st Helens sent ash to 16k feet we are at at least 23 today according to sources.
[link to www.volcano.si.edu] Utinam populus Romanus unam cervicem haberet! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 300370 5/6/2008 12:23 PM | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote |
i also thought if continued...lower temps...which is maybe why scientist kept changing tune that global warming would correct itself... hmmm?!!
we're in fl...and for some reason this year have been drawn to increasing the fireplace pile we hardly ever use...how weird is that.. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 176812 5/6/2008 12:41 PM | |
Gaius Germaincus User ID: 412005 5/6/2008 12:43 PM
 | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote | looks like we are in a VEI of around 6, if it gets much bigger then were looking at a 7; think: Tambora 1815. Five days of ash plume followed by one day of utter hell and several days of a rain of ash to wrap it up.
Tambora was a stratovocano though, and there was a loud bang like Krakatoa. No reports of anything like that. Although I am sure that it must have made some noise in the last few days. What this caldera will do remains to be seen.
That would be bad. Utinam populus Romanus unam cervicem haberet! |
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impetigo User ID: 235206 5/6/2008 12:48 PM | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote | doesn't the US have a multi-million
dollar observatory in chaiten?
oops |
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Theteck User ID: 428817 5/6/2008 12:50 PM | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote | all volcano have a caldera somes are small and somes are huge like this one |
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Gaius Germaincus User ID: 412005 5/6/2008 12:59 PM
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all volcano have a caldera somes are small and somes are huge like this one Quoting: Theteck
There may or may not be a caldera, but what is being refered to here is the geologic features that are indicitive of the nature of the eruptions to date. Chaiten has features of a calderic volcano with a lava dome. Compare this to St. Helens which is a stratovolcano. Differnt types produce differnt rusults and sometimes one type becomes another after some event.
[link to www.volcano.si.edu] Utinam populus Romanus unam cervicem haberet! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 428628 5/6/2008 1:01 PM | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote |
looks like we are in a VEI of around 6, if it gets much bigger then were looking at a 7; think: Tambora 1815. Five days of ash plume followed by one day of utter hell and several days of a rain of ash to wrap it up.
Tambora was a stratovocano though, and there was a loud bang like Krakatoa. No reports of anything like that. Although I am sure that it must have made some noise in the last few days. What this caldera will do remains to be seen.
That would be bad. Quoting: Gaius Germaincus
well, we're well into day 5 now.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
''Mount Tambora (or Tomboro) is an active stratovolcano on Sumbawa island, Indonesia. Sumbawa is flanked both to the north and south by oceanic crust, and Tambora was formed by the active subduction zones beneath it. This raised Mount Tambora as high as 4,300 m (14,000 ft),[2] making it one of the tallest peaks in the Indonesian archipelago, and drained off a large magma chamber inside the mountain. It took centuries to refill the magma chamber, its volcanic activity reaching its peak in April 1815.[3]
Tambora erupted in 1815 with a rating of seven on the Volcanic Explosivity Index, making it the largest eruption since the Lake Taupo eruption in AD 181.[4] The explosion was heard on Sumatra island (more than 2,000 km or 1,200 mi away). Heavy volcanic ash falls were observed as far away as Borneo, Sulawesi, Java and Maluku islands. The death toll was at least 71,000 people, of whom 11,000–12,000 were killed directly by the eruption;[4] the often-cited figure of 92,000 people killed is believed to be an overestimate.[5] The eruption created global climate anomalies; 1816 became known as the Year Without a Summer because of the effect on North American and European weather. Agricultural crops failed and livestock died in much of the Northern Hemisphere, resulting in the worst famine of the 19th century.[4]
During an excavation in 2004, a team of archaeologists discovered cultural remains buried by the 1815 eruption.[6] They were kept intact beneath the 3 m (10 ft) deep pyroclastic deposits. At the site, dubbed the Pompeii of the East, the artifacts were preserved in the positions they had occupied in 1815.'' |
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Gaius Germaincus User ID: 412005 5/6/2008 1:01 PM
 | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote | This one's was about 3.5 km as compared to Pinitubo's 2.2km. Large, but not huge like say Toba which is something like 35 x 100km or however big Long Valley or Yellowstone is. Utinam populus Romanus unam cervicem haberet! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 428465 5/6/2008 1:02 PM | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote | when did mt. Rainer last blow? |
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Gaius Germaincus User ID: 412005 5/6/2008 1:06 PM
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looks like we are in a VEI of around 6, if it gets much bigger then were looking at a 7; think: Tambora 1815. Five days of ash plume followed by one day of utter hell and several days of a rain of ash to wrap it up.
Tambora was a stratovocano though, and there was a loud bang like Krakatoa. No reports of anything like that. Although I am sure that it must have made some noise in the last few days. What this caldera will do remains to be seen.
That would be bad.
well, we're well into day 5 now.
[ link to en.wikipedia.org]
''Mount Tambora (or Tomboro) is an active stratovolcano on Sumbawa island, Indonesia. Sumbawa is flanked both to the north and south by oceanic crust, and Tambora was formed by the active subduction zones beneath it. This raised Mount Tambora as high as 4,300 m (14,000 ft),[2] making it one of the tallest peaks in the Indonesian archipelago, and drained off a large magma chamber inside the mountain. It took centuries to refill the magma chamber, its volcanic activity reaching its peak in April 1815.[3]
Tambora erupted in 1815 with a rating of seven on the Volcanic Explosivity Index, making it the largest eruption since the Lake Taupo eruption in AD 181.[4] The explosion was heard on Sumatra island (more than 2,000 km or 1,200 mi away). Heavy volcanic ash falls were observed as far away as Borneo, Sulawesi, Java and Maluku islands. The death toll was at least 71,000 people, of whom 11,000–12,000 were killed directly by the eruption;[4] the often-cited figure of 92,000 people killed is believed to be an overestimate.[5] The eruption created global climate anomalies; 1816 became known as the Year Without a Summer because of the effect on North American and European weather. Agricultural crops failed and livestock died in much of the Northern Hemisphere, resulting in the worst famine of the 19th century.[4]
During an excavation in 2004, a team of archaeologists discovered cultural remains buried by the 1815 eruption.[6] They were kept intact beneath the 3 m (10 ft) deep pyroclastic deposits. At the site, dubbed the Pompeii of the East, the artifacts were preserved in the positions they had occupied in 1815.'' Quoting: Anonymous Coward 428628
Tambora had an estimated ash plume of 40+km high. As of this a.m. reports were that we were in the 23km range, it would have to get seriously worse. Pinitubo was something like 33km? Utinam populus Romanus unam cervicem haberet! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 428628 5/6/2008 1:06 PM | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote |
when did mt. Rainer last blow? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 428465
you might be HOPING for Rainier to blow soon, just to keep you warm!
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 428848 5/6/2008 1:06 PM | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote |
Do realise what that means if she really blows don't you?
If you don't - google Caldera.
They're detonating Volcanoes in order to blott out the sun. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 428001
who'se they? and why?
you crazy dreamer of doom. |
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BadMoonRising User ID: 373223 (OP) 5/6/2008 1:12 PM | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote | If this thing carries on spewing ash for the next few weeks (which I've read in some reports), you can be certain that it'll have worldwide repurcussions.
The awesome power of nature. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 428628 5/6/2008 1:14 PM | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote | is injecting megatons of S02 to 23 km not enough to impact climate?
tell me it isn't, please. |
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futrono User ID: 428229 5/6/2008 1:21 PM | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote |
doesn't the US have a multi-million
dollar observatory in chaiten?
oops Quoting: impetigo 235206
Not really. The only american thing is an enviromentalists heaven ( Douglas Tompkins former owner of Sprit) "Parque Pumalin" More than a million acres. He is one of the lobbiests who has done the utmost to prevent road constructions in the area, which would have made the evacuation process much more expedite...
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 424478 5/6/2008 1:31 PM | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote | The Earth Kicks ass don't it. I love the earth, Dont Fuck with her, She blew Marduk away and she dont take no shit. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 426833 5/6/2008 1:31 PM | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote | Planet X is coming... |
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WHAT User ID: 218050 5/6/2008 1:36 PM | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote | So does this mean all in all it is bigger or smaller than mt. st. helens. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 294313 5/6/2008 1:41 PM | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote | This will have a big impact on global temperatures over the next few months.... watch food prices rise really fast. |
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