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Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano
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Dr. Roberto Aguila Velasquez
User ID: 429006
5/6/2008 7:03 PM | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote |
as I said on the other thread about the topic
it is bad, but not so bad, the volcano isn´t so large and the worst case scenario is neighboring land collapsing and a huge tsunami, but the volcano itself should damage a fixed radius, not a worldwide scale, yet, it´s horrible to live near or close to it, people are being evacuated by a 50 kms radius. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 429016
5/6/2008 7:25 PM | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote |
Bear in mind there are some who insist that there is a multi-year error in Mayan calendar translations and that 2012 is actually.... 2008. Quoting: gsbltd
No way, we are not inside the galactic plane yet, we are just about ready to enter into it. We are feeling the effects of the higher radiation level from the nuclear center of the milky way galaxy.
The earth will be rockin and rollin by 2012, not to mention it being solar maximum of cycle 24 and more comets.
Its going to be a rough ride.
[link to www.universetoday.com] |
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geogal
User ID: 373387
5/6/2008 7:27 PM | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote |
from what I can find, no research on the size of the chamber.
"Scientists in Chile are now frantically collecting data in an attempt to measure how much magma has built up under the volcano."
[link to home.att.net]
is one a a number of examples. I think I read this similar comment earlier in this thread.
No. Normally, once a volcano has been labeled inactive/dormant or "extinct", then it's only casually observed, not actively observed like the other 500 or so active volcanoes in Chile. "extinct" doesn't really mean "dead", it's more of a label as to what seems more important to observe. This one kinda more by how long it hasn't gone off should be called dormant, not really been long enough to call "extinct".
this site has some interesting current info on world wide disaster, but it's not updated for the Chile affair.
By the way the linked article cites the lava as being thick and sticky type. Just the type you need to have for one of these things, the silky smooth Hawaii stuff runs to smoth to be explosive. High viscosity magamas create situations like this, and may be a sign of more to come. Has anyone looked into what is going on at Minchinnavida? Does anyone have research as to how big the magma reservoir is on this thing? They thought it was dead so most likely no, right. Quoting: Gaius Germaincus |
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Atomic Air Six
User ID: 292560
5/6/2008 7:31 PM
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I hope the evacuees remain safe and are able to resume their Lives soon.
"It isn't about what you & I think, it's about what is." |
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Dances with Dragons 
User ID: 429020
5/6/2008 7:35 PM
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:vhc08:
"I am a emancipated octave of Creation that has expressed itself in holy and unholy ways." |
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Spot
User ID: 414118
5/6/2008 7:46 PM
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:vhc08: Quoting: Dances with Dragons
That's an awesome photo! I heard it on CNN about lightning striking the volcano but missed the picture.
Is there a link to the original photo of higher dimension ? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 429008
5/6/2008 8:01 PM | |
geogal
User ID: 373387
5/6/2008 8:06 PM | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote |
Hey Atomic Air,
I pray in my own way for their safety too. But, being as far as we are, I'm not sure what else we can do. They seem to be doing everything they can there.
I hope the evacuees remain safe and are able to resume their Lives soon. Quoting: Atomic Air Six |
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gsbltd
User ID: 429037
5/6/2008 8:07 PM | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote |
429016:
You're incorrect to assume that those who have analysed the Mayan calendar are wrong based upon a website you found.
The simple truth is this: EVERYTHING we currently understand -or have understood- about our planet and the universe in which it moves is being rewritten on a near-daily basis and conjecture such as the difference between 2008-2012, or the 'galactic plane' [a relatively NEW concept in itself!] is merely that: CONJECTURE. Scientists are currently in a catchup mode: they are creating new theories to match what they are witnessing and little of it is terribly positive.
Hell: nobody even expected Chaiten to blow... after all it's been dormant for thousands of years, yes?
That's also why this eruption is being studied so closely and worrying so many "experts": because they really don't know exactly what is going to happen in the next few hours/days.... especially where the actions of caldera--based volcanoes are concerned. You can rest assured the folks up in Yellowstone are watching this baby mature with a very keen and interested eye! And seriously dreading the day a similar scenario will confront them, as well!
To the OP who asked me to elaborate upon the 2008-2012 miscalculations: there are several diverse scholars who are suggesting that the 2012 date is in error and are using the Earth's accelerated eco/geological changes as proof. I have read claims that place the "actual" date as November 2011 [Ian Lundgold] and others who place it in 2008. From my observations, I'd say the event will be sooner, rather than later.
BTW: The pic that is shown above reminded me immediately of the WAR OF THE WORLDS scenes where the lightening bolts struck the ground, unleashing a new Hell upon mankind. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 429016
5/6/2008 8:20 PM | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote |
429016:
You're incorrect to assume that those who have analysed the Mayan calendar are wrong based upon a website you found.
The simple truth is this: EVERYTHING we currently understand -or have understood- about our planet and the universe in which it moves is being rewritten on a near-daily basis and conjecture such as the difference between 2008-2012, or the 'galactic plane' [a relatively NEW concept in itself!] is merely that: CONJECTURE. Scientists are currently in a catchup mode: they are creating new theories to match what they are witnessing and little of it is terribly positive.
Hell: nobody even expected Chaiten to blow... after all it's been dormant for thousands of years, yes?
That's also why this eruption is being studied so closely and worrying so many "experts": because they really don't know exactly what is going to happen in the next few hours/days.... especially where the actions of caldera--based volcanoes are concerned. You can rest assured the folks up in Yellowstone are watching this baby mature with a very keen and interested eye! And seriously dreading the day a similar scenario will confront them, as well!
To the poster who asked me to elaborate upon the 2008-2012 miscalculations: there are several diverse scholars who are suggesting that the 2012 date is in error and are using the Earth's accelerated eco/geological changes as proof. I have read claims that place the "actual" date as November 2011 [Ian Lundgold] and others who place it in 2008. From my observations, I'd say the event will be sooner, rather than later.
BTW: The pic that is shown above reminded me immediately of the WAR OF THE WORLDS scenes where the lightening bolts struck the ground, unleashing a new Hell upon mankind. Quoting: gsbltd
The link is to show more of a mainstream scientific evaluation.
Not to mention the earthquakes swarms that have been happening recently, to an increase in magma flow under the earths crust, and evidence that the other planets are heating up too.
[link to www.livescience.com]
[link to news.nationalgeographic.com]
Something much bigger than PlanetX is happening. |
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Schmieder
User ID: 324203
5/6/2008 8:41 PM | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote |
So does this mean all in all it is bigger or smaller than mt. st. helens.
Justa tad larger. But oh so much more powerful.
Did I also hear the death toll from the cyclone might reach 250,000? Jee-bus. Talk about your instant doom.
Can hardly wait for 2012 to get here. It's going to be a carnival of doom. A smorgasbord if you will... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18328
Unless 2012 is when peace and harmony begins again. And 2008-2009 would be the real doom years. Just a thought. The Mayans may have ended there calendar on a good note. |
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gsbltd
User ID: 429037
5/6/2008 8:41 PM | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote |
429016:
I agree; there is very strong evidence to suggest that several other planets have already undergone or are now experiencing major shifts in their atmospheres and there may be some substance to the galactic plane theory - but, it still remains a theory [just like Einstein's long-accepted calculations which may well be disproven in the near future!]. Actually: it makes as much sense as anything else!
I think I misunderstood your motive for presenting the link; there are so many ways to examine all the anomolies we are now seeing that it's already becoming difficult to compartmentalize them all! My apologies for any hurt feelings!
324203: Fascinating concept!!! |
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CraftZanie
User ID: 429066
5/6/2008 9:43 PM | |
CraftZanie
User ID: 429066
5/6/2008 10:07 PM | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote |
It is always possible the Earth is building up to a 2012 rebirth the way a fetus builds from egg, to embryo, to fetus, to infant.
This theory is going to be one hell of a ride for her passengers, aka Human kind riding on her outer crust. The Mayan people did not say this 2012 passage would be the end of Human kind as a species. They said it would involve a drastic change. There are changes going on. Look around. |
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Dances with Dragons
User ID: 429077
5/6/2008 10:09 PM
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:chilli8:
"I am a emancipated octave of Creation that has expressed itself in holy and unholy ways." |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 426925
5/6/2008 10:30 PM | |
Pabloh
User ID: 429097
5/6/2008 10:34 PM | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote |
I don't think this is a VEI 6...yet. Anyway, it doesn't have to be a six to cause catastrophic damage. VEI is not measured by the height of the ash column but by the cubic km of ash erupted from the vent. Pinatubo was also a 6, I believe, and Mt. St. Helens was a 5. The Soufr1ere Hills Volcano in Montserrat erupted over several days was only a 3 and yet it buried the captial city of Plymouth in pyroclastic flows.
Krakatoa was a VEI 6. It caused a tsumani, had pyroclastic flows and surges and caused the death of over 30,000 people. The sound wave from the blast circled the earth, it dropped temperatures by about 2 - 3 deg. fahrenheit and the eruption caused the collapse of almost the entire island with the main cone and two parasitic cones collapsing. The most recent geological surveys seem to show that Krakatoa arose from an undersea caldera which is still VERY active and growing a new cone now about 2500 ft above sea level! "Caldera: Large circular depression shapped like a cauldron or basin produced by the collapse of a volcanic structure, usually the roof of a magma camber." ("Volcanles: A Firefly Guide"; Rossi, Papale, Lupi and Stoppato.) |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 386737
5/6/2008 10:40 PM | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote |
I wonder if there's a link between that volcano and all the quakes we've been having? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 336435
yes there is. We are now at the end of Revelation 9. read it |
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* <-----Kingdom of Heaven
User ID: 418811
5/6/2008 10:43 PM | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote |
I just wonder how many more eqs and volcanic eruptions and big hurricanes is it going to take before people wake up and realize something is wrong ? What do you think >? How bad will it have to get before people wake up ? |
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Dread Pirate Roberts
User ID: 428784
5/6/2008 11:08 PM | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote |
I just wonder how many more eqs and volcanic eruptions and big hurricanes is it going to take before people wake up and realize something is wrong ? What do you think >? How bad will it have to get before people wake up ? Quoting: * <-----Kingdom of Heaven 418811
Great questions, Kingdom of Heaven. The bible tells us of the many times Israel were God's rebellious people and took many plagues and judgments to wake up. And in other cases where all of God's people took time to wake up and sometimes they never did (Sodom and Gommorah, the Flood).
We read the bible and we see what it will take before some, but not all, people wake up. And some will have hardened hearts and will sleep their ay to their doom...
Jesus is coming soon. Are you ready?
"And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh." Luke 21:28 (KJV) |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 408948
5/6/2008 11:18 PM | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote |
Bear in mind there are some who insist that there is a multi-year error in Mayan calendar translations and that 2012 is actually.... 2008.
No way, we are not inside the galactic plane yet, we are just about ready to enter into it. We are feeling the effects of the higher radiation level from the nuclear center of the milky way galaxy.
The earth will be rockin and rollin by 2012, not to mention it being solar maximum of cycle 24 and more comets.
Its going to be a rough ride.
[ link to www.universetoday.com]
I concur, and this is one of the most sane thoughts I have seen expressed on this forum.
There is more to what occurs in this electric universe of ours than most people know or understand. It does effect our species in an adverse way. |
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watched
User ID: 386514
5/7/2008 2:03 AM | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote |
Yes it is bad that it is a caldera volcano- see the news clip below and the mention of the word "CATACLYSMIC"
[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
Chaiten is a caldera volcano, which can explode in a cataclysmic eruption, emptying the magma chamber and causing the dome and surrounding land to collapse into the void beneath. |
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Tyrell
User ID: 429201
5/7/2008 3:19 AM | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote |
when did mt. Rainer last blow? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 428465
"The most recent recorded volcanic eruption was between 1820 and 1854, but many eyewitnesses reported eruptive activity in 1858, 1870, 1879, 1882 and 1894 as well.
As of 2008, there is no imminent risk of eruption, but geologists expect that the volcano will erupt again."
[link to en.wikipedia.org] |
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tuuuuur
User ID: 208358
5/7/2008 3:22 AM | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote |
I just wonder how many more eqs and volcanic eruptions and big hurricanes is it going to take before people wake up and realize something is wrong ? What do you think >? How bad will it have to get before people wake up ? Quoting: * <-----Kingdom of Heaven 418811
That's only going to happen when a disaster like this hits a densely populated, western civilized area.
Nothing on Dutch mainstream radio about Chaiten this morning. It's too far away, affecting too little people, so it's more interesting to mention who won some literature prize I presume. |
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Juan Motime
User ID: 429253
5/7/2008 7:09 AM | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote |
I heard that this volcano had been dormant for over 9000 years. Can anyone confirm that?
-Juan. |
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tuuuuur
User ID: 208358
5/7/2008 7:25 AM | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote |
I heard that this volcano had been dormant for over 9000 years. Can anyone confirm that?
-Juan. Quoting: Juan Motime 429253
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
"According to the Global Volcanism Program, radiocarbon dating of the last lava flow from the volcano suggests that it last previously erupted in 7420 BC, plus or minus 75 years." |
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impetigo
User ID: 235206
5/7/2008 8:54 AM | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote |
ditto, about the picture looking like a
scene from War of the Worlds |
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lamâshtu
User ID: 225414
5/7/2008 9:09 AM | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote |
That's an awesome photo! I heard it on CNN about lightning striking the volcano but missed the picture.
Is there a link to the original photo of higher dimension ? Quoting: Spot
[link to www.lun.com]
[link to megagalerias.terra.cl] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 429369
5/7/2008 12:14 PM | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote |
this thread hasn't moved much since last night.
Just back from work now and looking for the latest on this.
Is it still erupting? Any idea about how much cubic KM s we are to now? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 373696
5/7/2008 12:22 PM | | Re: Chaiten is a CALDERA volcano | Quote |
Here's another satellite photo, from yesterday morning. I apologize if it's already been posted.
[link to www.osei.noaa.gov]
I can't help but wonder at those of you who think this is end-of-the-world stuff. Cyclones, earthquakes, volcanoes etc are natural forces that have nothing to do with humans (except the ones they land on, my sympathies to them). It's too bad that preachers use such events to scare people into submission, people who, with a little more education, could focus on making meaningful improvements to their world. Instead you sit in fear, reading your bible, waiting for the rapture...
Years from now you'll still be waiting, wondering how your life got away from you, anc cursing that preacher who took all your money. |
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