if you wanted to run an engine...let's say for example an 2000 cc (2 liter) on straight hydroxy and no gasoline, major mods are required (stainless steel valves and exhaust as well as ceramic coating the heads) to an already inefficient engine. figure having to produce on average 10-20 liters per minute to do this MINIMUM. to produce that much gas, you'll need a bob boyce style resonant reaction electrolyser. the boosters that folks are making on average are just for gas suppliment/better mileage/power. i just made a smack booster.. www.smacksboosters.110mb.com and getting ready to install on small 4 cyl truck.
how do you figure 10-20 lpm?
Quoting: Grower 436482
there is an excel spreadsheet conversion table on the yahoo/hydroxy group site..i think just to idle the 2000cc you would need around 4 lpm...of course to accelerate and go would take probably 3x that, so i guesstimated the 10-20 lpm figure..i would bet that i'm pretty close for said engine requirments.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 436815 5/21/2008 9:21 AM
Re: Alternative Fuels-Using WATER to convert engine to a hybrid DIY!!
Interesting work you have been doing.
I was wondering, since I also read a lot in this area, and have connected some dots (i hope).
It seems to me, that the meyer water system, has similarities with gray, moray and even aspden (although he did make anything).
What i mean is that is looks like, just like the gray tube, that after high voltage sparks, if interrupted while they exist (or in water the dissociation of watermolecules), the huge radial emission of some sort of field takes place. Since you read a lot in this area, you should know were I am talking about.
What I want to do, and hope you have any input on this, is to make a simple device that proves the emission what is zeropoint energy. For as far as i can see, the gray tube is the most simple device to do that. I do not have to make it as in the patent, just simple conductor, spark gap (maybe use magnets as a start for limit the spark, and some lamp on the outside tube (for blowing up..:-). conductor connected to a charging capacitor and waiting for a flash.
any comment?
joe User ID: 436949 5/21/2008 2:31 PM
Re: Alternative Fuels-Using WATER to convert engine to a hybrid DIY!!
if you wanted to run an engine...let's say for example an 2000 cc (2 liter) on straight hydroxy and no gasoline, major mods are required (stainless steel valves and exhaust as well as ceramic coating the heads) to an already inefficient engine. figure having to produce on average 10-20 liters per minute to do this MINIMUM. to produce that much gas, you'll need a bob boyce style resonant reaction electrolyser. the boosters that folks are making on average are just for gas suppliment/better mileage/power. i just made a smack booster.. www.smacksboosters.110mb.com and getting ready to install on small 4 cyl truck.
how do you figure 10-20 lpm?
there is an excel spreadsheet conversion table on the yahoo/hydroxy group site..i think just to idle the 2000cc you would need around 4 lpm...of course to accelerate and go would take probably 3x that, so i guesstimated the 10-20 lpm figure..i would bet that i'm pretty close for said engine requirments.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 395520
I do not see it that way.........
You do not need all that do you ??
Hydrogen as 2.5 times more power then gasoline. The problem with a cells is that it doesn't produce a pure hydrogen gas.
You need to ionize the gas in the cell. You can only get perfect separation of the water molecule after ionization.
Ask yourself this question... Why do you need to use a bubbler ? Because you need to separate the good from the bad ... and only put the H in the engine.
Meyer didn't use a boobler.. why?
Because he was doing ionization of the atoms using Photons.
If you charge the gas using photons... like using a microwave laser for exemple...the positive charges of the atoms will make the formation again of the water molecule impossible. Magnetic repulsion takes place.
Remember Oxygen and hydrogen react to diferent ligh amplitude range.
In the cell you are producing Hydrogen... Oxygen and non combustible gases. If you get the ionization of the atoms in the cell you do not need a bubbler.You will get from it 10% non combustible gases, 30% Oxygen and 60% hydrogen. So the changes in the engine are not needed. You ask why? Well because the hydrogen will burn slower and at a lower temperature. About 700º and the cause of this are the oxygen and non combustible gases % in the mix. You get even lower temperature because of the Air going inside the engine from the Air intake to combustion chamber of the engine. The Air intake puts not only Oxygen inside the engine but also non combustible gases and that will slow down the hyfdrogen burn.
Now if you advance the ignition of the spark plugs about 1/3 you will get the engine sincro.
The only thing that will hapen after combuston is that the water molecule will form again.
You can control the rate of the hydrogen burn and make it Burn just at the same rate as gasoline if you add more non combustible gases.
Maybe I'm wrong about this... But I do think this is much easier that it seems........
You are using the Air intake to put hydrogen insede the combustion chamber...
Now imagine you are using the engine valves to do this...
Hydrogen+Oxygen+non combustible gases in the gasoline intake valves.... Is that a problem?
You are puting inside the chamber half the amount of gasoline isn't it?
Is that me or you're complicating it ?
PLEASE IF YOU DO UNDERSTAND ABOUT ENGINES HELP ME...... !!!
I'm seeing it so easy that I'm about to destroy a Fiat 1.3 from 1996 lol......... :)
Lastone User ID: 436992 5/21/2008 4:34 PM
Re: Alternative Fuels-Using WATER to convert engine to a hybrid DIY!!
Interesting work you have been doing.
I was wondering, since I also read a lot in this area, and have connected some dots (i hope).
It seems to me, that the meyer water system, has similarities with gray, moray and even aspden (although he did make anything).
What i mean is that is looks like, just like the gray tube, that after high voltage sparks, if interrupted while they exist (or in water the dissociation of watermolecules), the huge radial emission of some sort of field takes place. Since you read a lot in this area, you should know were I am talking about.
What I want to do, and hope you have any input on this, is to make a simple device that proves the emission what is zeropoint energy. For as far as i can see, the gray tube is the most simple device to do that. I do not have to make it as in the patent, just simple conductor, spark gap (maybe use magnets as a start for limit the spark, and some lamp on the outside tube (for blowing up..:-). conductor connected to a charging capacitor and waiting for a flash.
any comment?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 436815
TESLA COIL... SPARK GAP
He was using it in 1899 ... :)
Google it
Anonymous Coward User ID: 405575 5/21/2008 4:50 PM
Re: Alternative Fuels-Using WATER to convert engine to a hybrid DIY!!
Interesting work you have been doing.
I was wondering, since I also read a lot in this area, and have connected some dots (i hope).
It seems to me, that the meyer water system, has similarities with gray, moray and even aspden (although he did make anything).
What i mean is that is looks like, just like the gray tube, that after high voltage sparks, if interrupted while they exist (or in water the dissociation of watermolecules), the huge radial emission of some sort of field takes place. Since you read a lot in this area, you should know were I am talking about.
What I want to do, and hope you have any input on this, is to make a simple device that proves the emission what is zeropoint energy. For as far as i can see, the gray tube is the most simple device to do that. I do not have to make it as in the patent, just simple conductor, spark gap (maybe use magnets as a start for limit the spark, and some lamp on the outside tube (for blowing up..:-). conductor connected to a charging capacitor and waiting for a flash.
any comment?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 436815
WOW!
Good luck on trying to prove it is ZPE.
I never actually measured the coil temperature on my Newman motor while it was running (gotta get back to that someday), but Naudin (JLN labs) did.... what he found was quite interesting to me, it has been reported by others as well. While running his motor he measured a distinct .5 degree C drop in the coil temp.
What does this mean? First in cryogenics pulsed magnetic fields have been used to remove residual heat from a target that is cooled close to absolute zero. This is a known phenomina..... The alignment of the molecules under a strong magnetic field acts to reduce the brownian motion. The question is what happens to that thermal energy? Is it radiated away as a momentary increase in IR emission? Or is it possible that the molecular kinetic energy is transfered to orbital electrons resulting in increased EMF potential and electron current carriers????
To my mind based on everything I've read..... The illusive radiant energy, longitudinal waves....... photons rotated partially into hyperspace form the basis for ZPE. you can toss in your imagination here cause no one knows perfectly for certain. It has been stated that this universal homogenous energy source is so intense that if we could synchronize its component phases and create a gradient of potential that we could tap, we would have a limitless inexhaustible supply of energy.
My imagination reveals this....... We are capable of detecting and utilizing photonic energy because it has a strong interaction with the atomic and molecular structures of mass, presumably composed of similar frequency captive photonic energy. This can happen because the wavelengths of electromagnetic oscillations can inter-react with mass that is composed of similar frequency photons.
Now imagine that there is no limit to the frequency of photonic energy...... say an order of magnitude higher than what our mass is composed of...... interaction would be reduced tremendously to the point that only minor vibrations are introduced into matter...... This is exactly what scientists measure at absolute zero...... There are still very minor molecular vibrations continuing as though some unseen force is jostling them around.
Now how can we affect this field of energy to create a coherence in its homogenous random topology? We have only two tools at our disposal...... that's right electrical and magnetic potential........ Okay Okay we'll toss in gravity for good measure.
From this point on it gets a little crazy and requires a good imagination to concoct a plausible ideology on how things work.
If you are interested in reading my ramblings I would be more that happy to continue, but I'm goin to stop for the moment to go work in my lab. One Truth.... many realities
Grower User ID: 436906 5/21/2008 5:31 PM
Re: Alternative Fuels-Using WATER to convert engine to a hybrid DIY!!
there is an excel spreadsheet conversion table on the yahoo/hydroxy group site..i think just to idle the 2000cc you would need around 4 lpm...of course to accelerate and go would take probably 3x that, so i guesstimated the 10-20 lpm figure..i would bet that i'm pretty close for said engine requirments.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 395520
Links? 4LPM is an extreme amount. Gasoline/air mixture cant even touch HHO/air mixture explosiveness.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 429946 5/21/2008 5:42 PM
Re: Alternative Fuels-Using WATER to convert engine to a hybrid DIY!!
if you wanted to run an engine...let's say for example an 2000 cc (2 liter) on straight hydroxy and no gasoline, major mods are required (stainless steel valves and exhaust as well as ceramic coating the heads) to an already inefficient engine. figure having to produce on average 10-20 liters per minute to do this MINIMUM. to produce that much gas, you'll need a bob boyce style resonant reaction electrolyser. the boosters that folks are making on average are just for gas suppliment/better mileage/power. i just made a smack booster.. www.smacksboosters.110mb.com and getting ready to install on small 4 cyl truck.
how do you figure 10-20 lpm?
there is an excel spreadsheet conversion table on the yahoo/hydroxy group site..i think just to idle the 2000cc you would need around 4 lpm...of course to accelerate and go would take probably 3x that, so i guesstimated the 10-20 lpm figure..i would bet that i'm pretty close for said engine requirments.
I do not see it that way.........
You do not need all that do you ??
Hydrogen as 2.5 times more power then gasoline. The problem with a cells is that it doesn't produce a pure hydrogen gas.
You need to ionize the gas in the cell. You can only get perfect separation of the water molecule after ionization.
Quoting: Lastone 436992
I sure don't know, but doesn't to "ionize" mean to attatch an Oxygen atom?
Ask yourself this question... Why do you need to use a bubbler ? Because you need to separate the good from the bad ... and only put the H in the engine.
Quoting: Lastone 436992
No, my understanding is that you need a bubbler to keep from blowing up your unit during a backflash.
Meyer didn't use a boobler.. why?
Because he was doing ionization of the atoms using Photons.
If you charge the gas using photons... like using a microwave laser for exemple...the positive charges of the atoms will make the formation again of the water molecule impossible. Magnetic repulsion takes place.
Remember Oxygen and hydrogen react to diferent ligh amplitude range.
In the cell you are producing Hydrogen... Oxygen and non combustible gases.
Quoting: Lastone 436992
What non-combustable gasses? What else do you get from water than Hydrogen and Oxygen?
If you get the ionization of the atoms in the cell you do not need a bubbler.You will get from it 10% non combustible gases, 30% Oxygen and 60% hydrogen. So the changes in the engine are not needed. You ask why? Well because the hydrogen will burn slower and at a lower temperature. About 700º and the cause of this are the oxygen and non combustible gases % in the mix. You get even lower temperature because of the Air going inside the engine from the Air intake to combustion chamber of the engine. The Air intake puts not only Oxygen inside the engine but also non combustible gases and that will slow down the hyfdrogen burn.
Now if you advance the ignition of the spark plugs about 1/3 you will get the engine sincro.
The only thing that will hapen after combuston is that the water molecule will form again.
You can control the rate of the hydrogen burn and make it Burn just at the same rate as gasoline if you add more non combustible gases.
Maybe I'm wrong about this... But I do think this is much easier that it seems........
You are using the Air intake to put hydrogen insede the combustion chamber...
Now imagine you are using the engine valves to do this...
Hydrogen+Oxygen+non combustible gases in the gasoline intake valves.... Is that a problem?
You are puting inside the chamber half the amount of gasoline isn't it?
Is that me or you're complicating it ?
PLEASE IF YOU DO UNDERSTAND ABOUT ENGINES HELP ME...... !!!
I'm seeing it so easy that I'm about to destroy a Fiat 1.3 from 1996 lol......... :)
Quoting: Lastone 436992
??
Lastone User ID: 436992 5/21/2008 7:59 PM
Re: Alternative Fuels-Using WATER to convert engine to a hybrid DIY!!
Meyers also fed combustion exhaust gases back into the fuel stream to act as limiter on the speed of the hydrogen combustion. It is not clear whether or not he also added external air as well. One Truth.... many realities
Grower User ID: 436906 5/21/2008 9:34 PM
Re: Alternative Fuels-Using WATER to convert engine to a hybrid DIY!!
Meyers also fed combustion exhaust gases back into the fuel stream to act as limiter on the speed of the hydrogen combustion. It is not clear whether or not he also added external air as well.
Quoting: scimitar
All vehicles feed exhaust gas back into the fuel delivery system. It helps keep the combustion temperature down and cooks some of the carbons more.
scimitar I Just wanna know User ID: 373365 5/22/2008 8:31 AM
Re: Alternative Fuels-Using WATER to convert engine to a hybrid DIY!!
Uhh..... Yeah, I do realize that. Only said that because of the discussion above that about the other gases dissolved in the water. And as Meyer pointed out...... In order to manufacture a retro-fit kit for a car, it would be necessary to get the Hydrogen burn rate to the same speed as the fuel the car was using. To do this the HHO gas has to be diffused with other non-combustible gases...... since there would not be enough dissolved in the water then another source would be needed...... so use the exhaust gases........ The purpose is different, as you pointed out, though for a conventional internal combustion engine. One Truth.... many realities
Grower User ID: 436906 5/22/2008 12:34 PM
Re: Alternative Fuels-Using WATER to convert engine to a hybrid DIY!!
It would seem he used something other then exhaust gases and HHO. Depending on the compression ratio of the engine( volks wagen unmoded is pretty low) it still taking in a good amount of air. From what i seen on a couple videos he had a volkwagen engine running unmoded with his fuel cell cell driver etc etc hooked up to his engine. That would mean hes taking in air as well?
Anonymous Coward User ID: 437616 5/22/2008 3:04 PM
Re: Alternative Fuels-Using WATER to convert engine to a hybrid DIY!!
Random thought just crossed my mind in reading about exhaust gas re-feeds.
With other fuels, we are always looking for stoichiometric mixture ratios, but with HHO, we are guaranteed a perfect stoichiometric mixture.
However, in this case when we add ambient air, we always have excess oxygen. Perhaps we are looking at this somehow backward.
Perhaps we should be looking at using a lot of excess air with no exhaust gas re-feed. The air is the expansive media that the explosion heats, so the real objective perhaps should be at keeping the temperatures as low as possible while maintaining the ability of the HHO to explode.
Whereas engines are designed to mix the fuels thoroughly to assure combustion, we should be looking at stratifying the HHO - perhaps by a near top of compression cycle injection.
But that requires pressurized HHO
Any thoughts? Feedback?
.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 437616 5/22/2008 3:11 PM
Re: Alternative Fuels-Using WATER to convert engine to a hybrid DIY!!
Meyers also fed combustion exhaust gases back into the fuel stream to act as limiter on the speed of the hydrogen combustion. It is not clear whether or not he also added external air as well.
Quoting: scimitar
Yes He did. In a normal engine you have to. This how I see it!!
If you think about it a litle you realise he was using air intake in normal engines..
Why, you may ask.
As I see it, the water molecule as 1 oxigen and 2 hydrogen is it not? So do you think that the oxigen ratio inside the engine combustion chamber would be enough ?
No it wouldn't, in a normal engine it wouldn't. And you can not use the exaust gases from the combustion also. Why ? Because it is non combustible gases and water. You would be sending non combustible gases, yes, but also water inside the combustion chamber.
And this is why inonization is so important. You need to take the free electrons and neutrons from the gases inside the cell, and also, make the atoms polarixzation very very strong, before taking the gases out of it.
Oxygen and hydrogen can not be stable when they go inside the combustion chamber so that the water molecule can not form again.
And this is the reason why he found out that he could do it another way and produce more energy.
He wasn't using the combustion of hydogen and oxigen inside the combustion chamber. He was using the energy realiced when the oxygen atom takes the neutron from the hydrogen atom and you no longer have a hydrogen atom but only a proton.
To do this he was using electromagnetic forces to distabilize the hydrogen atom, so that the oxygen atom takes the neutron from the hydrogen atom when they try to form the water molecule again after combustion.
Hydrogen loses energy in combustion, it is weak and is neutron is in a unstable orbit, faraway from the the nucleos (proton)that is not so positive as it was before combustion. Oxygen needs neutrons to be staible so he goes to the hydrogen atoms to stabilize but they can not. Why? Because they are +/+. So what hapens is that the BIG oxygen atom will try to take the neutron from hydrogen... and with a litle help from electromagnetic forces (what Meyer calls ionization) he does take it... and by doing that the realice of energy is ATOMIC. What is atomic energy? when you destroy atoms and they realice the energy in them.
Hydrogen loses mass and we know that when an atom loses mass it releases the energy in it. You are destroing the hydrogen atom and producing free PROTONS.
THIS IS ATOMIC NON RADIOACTIVE ENERGY !! ISN'T IT???
WHy is it non radioactive ? Because this energy isn't the result of the collision of atoms. Is the result of the mass loss of the hydrogen atom. It is not the fusion of atoms but the loss of mass of one of the atoms.
This is why you will have combustion gases that you can use in the combustion system. You no longer have hydrogen to form the water molecule again. You have oxigen... Protons and non combustible gases.
Now you can control the combustion and the atomic realice of energy.
Ok..
The normal engine again..
This is how I see it. Simple ...estupied and easy.
If you have 1 oxygen 2 hydrogen and 1 non combustible gases you know you need to put inside more non combustible gases to slow down the burn ratio of hydrogen. Yes?
You can not use the exaust gases because you would have water inside the combustion chamber . Yes?
Now.. you don't have non combustible gases to put inside.. what can you do to change the ratio ?
What about reducing the hydrogen inside the combustion chamber?
If when you have 1+2+1 you need 1+2+2 to reduce the ratio what if you have 1+1+1 ?
Don't you think you're reducing the combustion ratio??
You know that normal AIR as 19% non combustible gases don't you? What if you use the air intake of the engine to change the % of oxygen, hydrogen and non combustible gases inside the combustion chamber?
Do you think it is possible to burn the gases from the cell without changing the engine ??
Am I wrong about this?
Please advise !!!
Isn't this gay doing what i'm talking about?
Lastone User ID: 437646 5/22/2008 3:57 PM
Re: Alternative Fuels-Using WATER to convert engine to a hybrid DIY!!
Yes He did. In a normal engine you have to. This how I see it!!
If you think about it a litle you realise he was using air intake in normal engines..
Why, you may ask.
As I see it, the water molecule as 1 oxigen and 2 hydrogen is it not? So do you think that the oxigen ratio inside the engine combustion chamber would be enough ?
No it wouldn't, in a normal engine it wouldn't. And you can not use the exaust gases from the combustion also. Why ? Because it is non combustible gases and water. You would be sending non combustible gases, yes, but also water inside the combustion chamber.
And this is why inonization is so important. You need to take the free electrons and neutrons from the gases inside the cell, and also, make the atoms polarixzation very very strong, before taking the gases out of it.
Oxygen and hydrogen can not be stable when they go inside the combustion chamber so that the water molecule can not form again.
And this is the reason why he found out that he could do it another way and produce more energy.
He wasn't using the combustion of hydogen and oxigen inside the combustion chamber. He was using the energy realiced when the oxygen atom takes the neutron from the hydrogen atom and you no longer have a hydrogen atom but only a proton.
To do this he was using electromagnetic forces to distabilize the hydrogen atom, so that the oxygen atom takes the neutron from the hydrogen atom when they try to form the water molecule again after combustion.
Hydrogen loses energy in combustion, it is weak and is neutron is in a unstable orbit, faraway from the the nucleos (proton)that is not so positive as it was before combustion. Oxygen needs neutrons to be staible so he goes to the hydrogen atoms to stabilize but they can not. Why? Because they are +/+. So what hapens is that the BIG oxygen atom will try to take the neutron from hydrogen... and with a litle help from electromagnetic forces (what Meyer calls ionization) he does take it... and by doing that the realice of energy is ATOMIC. What is atomic energy? when you destroy atoms and they realice the energy in them.
Hydrogen loses mass and we know that when an atom loses mass it releases the energy in it. You are destroing the hydrogen atom and producing free PROTONS.
THIS IS ATOMIC NON RADIOACTIVE ENERGY !! ISN'T IT???
WHy is it non radioactive ? Because this energy isn't the result of the collision of atoms. Is the result of the mass loss of the hydrogen atom. It is not the fusion of atoms but the loss of mass of one of the atoms.
This is why you will have combustion gases that you can use in the combustion system. You no longer have hydrogen to form the water molecule again. You have oxigen... Protons and non combustible gases.
Now you can control the combustion and the atomic realice of energy.
Ok..
The normal engine again..
This is how I see it. Simple ...estupied and easy.
If you have 1 oxygen 2 hydrogen and 1 non combustible gases you know you need to put inside more non combustible gases to slow down the burn ratio of hydrogen. Yes?
You can not use the exaust gases because you would have water inside the combustion chamber . Yes?
Now.. you don't have non combustible gases to put inside.. what can you do to change the ratio ?
What about reducing the hydrogen inside the combustion chamber?
If when you have 1+2+1 you need 1+2+2 to reduce the ratio what if you have 1+1+1 ?
Don't you think you're reducing the combustion ratio?? You know that normal AIR as 19% non combustible gases don't you? What if you use the air intake of the engine to change the % of oxygen, hydrogen and non combustible gases inside the combustion chamber?
Do you think it is possible to burn the gases from the cell without changing the engine ??
Am I wrong about this?
Please advise !!!
Isn't this gay doing what i'm talking about?
Quoting: Lastone 437646
Uhhhh.... Nitrogen makes up ~78% of the Earths atmosphere, It is non-combustible. It helps to moderate the oxidation
of everything on the planet.
Okay Okay already........ I get it, Yes he must be bringing external air into the combustion chamber.
At the moment I cannot think about engine parametrics...... All I want to do is build the cell and see how much gas output I can achieve per watt of electrical energy in.
I'm about ready to wind the VIC coil set up. I have a nice ferrite tranformer core that I'm going to use. I want to attempt and wind everything on the same core..... The step up transformer and the bi-filar chokes. I already have what I need for the drive electronics. Two pulse generators, with one having a gate input control. I have the power drive circuit board from a Bedini motor I built, so once I wind the transformer and test the whole of the electronics....... then I can finish putting the cell togther.
Later dudes..... Oh and just in case, dudettes One Truth.... many realities
cameldreamer User ID: 436589 5/22/2008 9:08 PM
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Today is a public holiday here, i went shopping and came across some inox salad bowls, they are 20 cm in diameter and have a reasonable price 1.29 euros +/- 2 dollars.
The configuration of these bowls are excellent for series stacking and have a large contact area, i bought 14. This will be my next design, 2 stacks of 7 cells in series.
Still working on my tube cell and will post results when fitted to my car.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 438220 5/23/2008 12:52 PM
Re: Alternative Fuels-Using WATER to convert engine to a hybrid DIY!!
I don't know whether anyone has tried a series of experiments to test threshold voltages necessary to cause di-electric breakdown voltages needed for a Meyers type cell, but these power supplies might be of help:
I don't know whether anyone has tried a series of experiments to test threshold voltages necessary to cause di-electric breakdown voltages needed for a Meyers type cell, but these power supplies might be of help:
Cool site.... not seen it before, lotta good stuff..Thanks.
I'm currently winding the step up transformer for the Meyers cell I'm building.
I haven't done a breakdown test...... wanted to finish construction of the drive electronics before I build the actual water cell..... Although I do have a home built 20KV DC variable supply that I could use just to check that....... good idea.
I could just put some plates in distilled water and use a spark gap to pulse them. Perhaps I can try that this weekend.
Keep talking to keep me motivated, other wise you'll have to wait months. One Truth.... many realities
Anonymous Coward User ID: 438857 5/24/2008 12:41 PM
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Almost finished winding the VIC transformer for the WFC.
Yeah I know I don't have a lot of time to dedicate to it so it takes a long time, but hey I'll get there. One Truth.... many realities
scimitar I Just wanna know User ID: 373365 5/26/2008 11:58 AM
Re: Alternative Fuels-Using WATER to convert engine to a hybrid DIY!!
Okay, so now I have the step up transformer wound with about a 10:1 step-up ratio and good out to about 100Khz...... perfect. There is more than enough room on the core to wind the bifilar chokes, but I have decided to initially wind them on a long ferrite rod for more HV isolation. I wound the step-up so it should be okay up to about 3KV on the output. If a higher voltage than that is required then I'll have to find a different coil form with separate sections on the bobbin. Anyway I'm getting there slowly but surely.
So what's going on with the rest of you? One Truth.... many realities
scimitar I Just wanna know User ID: 15504 5/27/2008 9:12 AM
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I will assume the rest of you are all busily working to get your designs going and will get back here with your results....... So I guess I will follow suite. One Truth.... many realities
Anonymous Coward User ID: 441127 5/27/2008 10:02 PM
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