No electrical connections, no electrolysis in my truck, yet.
Quoting: Evil Twin
we can still be on the same page then, if later you can objectively report if anything is actually gained when you hook the thing up, as opposed to just using a 'bubbler'. I'm just not getting why you think your bubbler is generating hydrogen without electricity.
Evil Twin Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 429170 5/7/2008 3:07 AM
Re: Alternative Fuels-Using WATER to convert engine to a hybrid DIY!!
No electrical connections, no electrolysis in my truck, yet.
we can still be on the same page then, if later you can objectively report if anything is actually gained when you hook the thing up, as opposed to just using a 'bubbler'. I'm just not getting why you think your bubbler is generating hydrogen without electricity.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 429178
Jesus, how many times do I have to say I'm creating hydrogen in an electrolyser IN MY GARAGE!
Look at the pics on the first page of this thread. See the electrolyzer ON MY WORKBENCH?
Yep, so far!
That alone got me 3 mpg.
Earlier in the thread, I said I've been "charging" the water by using an aquarium air pump to pump the gas out of the electrolyser into my vaporizer jar of plain water through the aerator you can see in the pic for about an hour, then put the "charged" water back in the truck. I don't know if that makes any difference over just using plain distilled water, but I've read a few caes where people seem to think it helps.
Quoting: Evil Twin
User ID: 372844 seems like hes been there and done that before. He said that a simple carbed engine would be MUCH easier and i do believe hes right. You can find parts for the 5.0 like no other being a high production engine. That and the cheby 350. Switching from EFI to a carbed setup might be the way to go?You could do away with the O2 sensors then and most of the computer controlled BS. It might take a little researching but it cant be that hard if youve taken a engine apart before.
Evil Twin Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 429170 5/7/2008 3:09 AM
Re: Alternative Fuels-Using WATER to convert engine to a hybrid DIY!!
Yep, so far!
That alone got me 3 mpg.
Earlier in the thread, I said I've been "charging" the water by using an aquarium air pump to pump the gas out of the electrolyser into my vaporizer jar of plain water through the aerator you can see in the pic for about an hour, then put the "charged" water back in the truck. I don't know if that makes any difference over just using plain distilled water, but I've read a few caes where people seem to think it helps.
User ID: 372844 seems like hes been there and done that before. He said that a simple carbed engine would be MUCH easier and i do believe hes right. You can find parts for the 5.0 like no other being a high production engine. That and the cheby 350. Switching from EFI to a carbed setup might be the way to go?You could do away with the O2 sensors then and most of the computer controlled BS. It might take a little researching but it cant be that hard if youve taken a engine apart before.
Quoting: Grower
I want to stick with the fuel injection. I've got schematics for building a circuit to compensate for the O2 sensor, just need to order the parts and put it together.
three mile islander on crack User ID: 429178 5/7/2008 3:15 AM
Re: Alternative Fuels-Using WATER to convert engine to a hybrid DIY!!
Just because Einstein said it, doesn't exactly settle it-unless we "choose" to accept it
Oh great, another dulltard wiccan pitching 'consensus reality' in the face of hard physics.
Prove me wrong retards - power your engine expressly on "Brown's Flatulence" and try to generate more from your electrolysis chamber than you burn to spin the alternator that powers the electrolysis chamber in the first place. Until you can do that, stop preaching ignorance and stupidity.
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Hey douchebag...
What I do know is this. Combining efforts and small improvements such as air flow, ECM adjustments, and yes, ESPECIALLY the hydrogen cells, I have improved my fuel mileage by over 1/3. Go take what you "know" back with you to your mommies basement. Gee, you "silver spooned fucktards" are all the same.
Instead of being part of the problem, why don't you try becoming part of the SOLUTION! Shit you fuckstick, you are probably getting monthly kickbacks from Halliburton or your daddy owns an oil well in Saudi. Whatever it is, you can bet your just like all the other dumbfucks. Your parents threw a big party the first time you wiped your ass without getting shit on your hand. Big deal loser. You look like wallpaper to me. Now go "blend in" with the wallpaper in your mommies bathroom and play "pup tent". Your sister is waiting.....
Go get her, Champ!
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 372844
Why is it that the biggest morons know the most HTML tags???
Look, for some reason i am going to assume you are sincere and genuinely think i am trying to block useful data or something. I once posted a thread about Al Fry's Incredible Inquiries, it led to a page of materials he released to the public, there was a PDF about 'Suppressed and Incredible Inventions', and if any of you fuktards had actually READ IT you would be able to recognize old stuff masquerading as new stuff in this thread. You'd recognize when some fraud ties a pink ribbon on a *pig* and presents it as a magic unicorn. Instead you rather preach your ignorance and stupidity and get pissed when nobody believes you because they're not so newbie as you are and understand that you're full of shit.
Jesus, how many times do I have to say I'm creating hydrogen in an electrolyser IN MY GARAGE!
Look at the pics on the first page of this thread. See the electrolyzer ON MY WORKBENCH?
Then, see the vaporizer IN MY TRUCK.
Quoting: Evil Twin
I sorry Spanky, i was never trying to offend you, just to engage you in dialogue because i thought you were a kindred soul. I thought you were in an authoritative position to make a comparison, i had no idea belief in this was an identity terminal that you would think i was trying to take away from you.
Nevertheless, i think your real anger is that you realize your "electrolyzer" bubbling plain WATER which you then bubble in your truck and pretend has been enriched by hydrogen by your efforts is pure delusion, plain untreated water does the exact same result, and you're pissed off at THAT not ME.
PS I peed on that cigarette your cat is smoking.
Evil Twin Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 429170 5/7/2008 3:34 AM
Re: Alternative Fuels-Using WATER to convert engine to a hybrid DIY!!
Jesus, how many times do I have to say I'm creating hydrogen in an electrolyser IN MY GARAGE!
Look at the pics on the first page of this thread. See the electrolyzer ON MY WORKBENCH?
Then, see the vaporizer IN MY TRUCK.
I sorry Spanky, i was never trying to offend you, just to engage you in dialogue because i thought you were a kindred soul. I thought you were in an authoritative position to make a comparison, i had no idea belief in this was an identity terminal that you would think i was trying to take away from you.
Nevertheless, i think your real anger is that you realize your "electrolyzer" bubbling plain WATER which you then bubble in your truck and pretend has been enriched by hydrogen by your efforts is pure delusion, plain untreated water does the exact same result, and you're pissed off at THAT not ME.
PS I peed on that cigarette your cat is smoking.
Quoting: Reptilian Agent Chemsprayer fo 429178
If you had actually read the thread, you would have seen where I said twice that I had doubts about whether 'enriching' the water had any effect at all. I'm not angry about it, I'm having fun with the process. What I'm mildly annoyed about, is that you only seem to be actually reading about half the thread.
this technology has been around since day 1. Of everything. One of the first combustion engines ran on water. Its nothing new.
Quoting: Grower
farm tractors supposedly had three fuel bowls, one for gas, one for kerosene, one for water to suppress pre-detonation while running kerosene. I'm not completely sure i believe this, no tractor brands were cited, no triple-liquid carburetors were named, but it's sort of a workable sounding scheme
just beggin' for it User ID: 429178 5/7/2008 3:49 AM
Re: Alternative Fuels-Using WATER to convert engine to a hybrid DIY!!
If you had actually read the thread, you would have seen where I said twice that I had doubts about whether 'enriching' the water had any effect at all. I'm not angry about it, I'm having fun with the process. What I'm mildly annoyed about, is that you only seem to be actually reading about half the thread.
Quoting: Evil Twin
normally i'd blame my multi-tab browser while i do my work in other tabs, but i didn't think i missed any posts. maybe they were early on. thank you for showing restraint.
ps i peed in your cat's hat
Anonymous Coward User ID: 429202 5/7/2008 4:13 AM
Re: Alternative Fuels-Using WATER to convert engine to a hybrid DIY!!
First this question: "What precisely makes hydrogen "Brown's" gas? Electrolysis of water has been known forever."
Named after Yull Brown who developed a torch based on electrolized water. Has some unusual operating characteristics. It is both the oxygen and hydrogen mixed together.
First question: injecting brown's gas into the intake air-stream on an Otto cycle engine can change the operating characteristics. Presently we fire the plugs at about 8 degrees before top dead center (TDC) - with the brown's gas we can fire nearly at TDC because the flame spread is nearly instantaneous. This makes the otto cycle more efficient.
Okay look, I'm trying so hard not to be a troll now that I don't get banned all the time, but you ignorant children are so full of shit i can't contain myself.
***ALL*** water-to-hydrogen schemes split the water into hydrogen and oxygen; did you drop out of gradeschool or something? Look up "electrolysis". The only thing "Brown" about this is how much shit you're full of.
Second of all, retarding the timing is a indication of REDUCED OCTANE and INCREASED PRE-IGNITION('knocking'),
***NOT INCREASED EFFICIENCY***
God DAMMITT i hate the public school system.
You morons are experts at the latest video game, but you could never change a sparkplug or even hammer a nail without mortally wounding yourselves.
Quoting: The Last Man On Earth 256741
I have a degree in electrical engineering and chemistry.
Your are a fucktard
bunji User ID: 429215 5/7/2008 4:33 AM
Re: Alternative Fuels-Using WATER to convert engine to a hybrid DIY!!
Hey guys, just been reding this thread to get a better understanding of the possibilities of using the electoysis system to seperate hydrogen from water and increase mileage in my car. I was wondering is there anyone here who has seen definite damage to any part of their vehicle from the conclusively use of this system, and has anyone here ever thought of attaching dynamos to the wheels of a car to top up the battery further and create the energy for this system, that people are claiming will be lost in a power depleting circle?
Anonymous Coward User ID: 429178 5/7/2008 4:43 AM
Re: Alternative Fuels-Using WATER to convert engine to a hybrid DIY!!
Hey guys, just been reding this thread to get a better understanding of the possibilities of using the electoysis system to seperate hydrogen from water and increase mileage in my car. I was wondering is there anyone here who has seen definite damage to any part of their vehicle from the conclusively use of this system, and has anyone here ever thought of attaching dynamos to the wheels of a car to top up the battery further and create the energy for this system, that people are claiming will be lost in a power depleting circle?
Quoting: bunji 429215
Earlier in this thread I spoke about possible block damage, we looked at dozens of designs too. I talked to an engineer who took an engine apart after running a system for a year. the caustics in the electrolite were causing block damage. You get micro misting in the H2 stream the mist comes from the electrolizer and carries the caustics into the block. Most sytems out there tell you to use sodium hydroxide or potassiinm hydroxide, "DRAINO", or "RED DEVIL LYE". just save your self the hassel and pore it into your crankcase, that way you only have to wait a short while till you ruin your engine.
Now does injecting hydrogen or "Browns gas" into your vehicles air intake work, yes it does. But be "Very" carefull before you do. Hydrogen burns better than gas or deisel and causes your primary fuel to burn better too. Just make sure your design doesn't include caustics, one design I looked at uses battery acid same problem , another uses sea salt, problem here is not only do you produce hydrogen but the salt beaks down and you produce clorine gas another caustic.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 429178 5/7/2008 7:27 AM
Re: Alternative Fuels-Using WATER to convert engine to a hybrid DIY!!
Now does injecting hydrogen or "Browns gas" into your vehicles air intake work, yes it does.
Quoting: Anonymous Moo-Cow 399680
you had me going at first with your post, i could have sworn you knew what you were talking about. But no, you're like a cow that gives a good bucket of milk and then kicks it over, There was never any such thing as "Brown's gas", he did not invent hydrogen.
he didn't invent anything new anywhere
frack, his real name probly wasn't even 'brown'
Anonymous Coward User ID: 429178 5/7/2008 7:39 AM
Re: Alternative Fuels-Using WATER to convert engine to a hybrid DIY!!
Now does injecting hydrogen or "Browns gas" into your vehicles air intake work, yes it does.
Quoting: Anonymous Moo-Cow 399680
you had me going at first with your post, i could have sworn you knew what you were talking about. But no, you're like a cow that gives a good bucket of milk and then kicks it over, There was never any such thing as "Brown's gas", he did not invent hydrogen.
he didn't invent anything new anywhere
frack, his real name probly wasn't even 'brown'
Anonymous Coward User ID: 367687 5/7/2008 7:42 AM
Re: Alternative Fuels-Using WATER to convert engine to a hybrid DIY!!
i too have researched this everytime the gas prices go up, i mean it sounds all good,
but there are a lot of possible drawbacks, one of them being engine rusting and failure
they tried this on mythbusters too to no avail
i smelled scam when i read the first article and was waiting for the op to post the link to the unit he was obviously selling, and then it came up
pretty expensive for a kit u can supposedly make by yourself
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 429068
water can be mixed with just enough teflon(poor rust preventive)or czxdixodi. Synthetic's can be made to work well with water, so it is doable..but for longterm in a car or truck? going to be a while.
scimitar I Just wanna know User ID: 373365 5/7/2008 8:32 AM
Re: Alternative Fuels-Using WATER to convert engine to a hybrid DIY!!
The real idea is to electrolize water without having to introduce an electrolyte. Basically by using distilled water as a dielectric between capacitor plates, then pulsing the plates with a precise amplitude and frequency voltage.
This is the functionality of the Stanley Myer design. Since the water molecule has an asymmetrical polarization any difference of electrical potential across the molecule will cause it to align in the electrical field. By increasing the potential and pulsing it at a molecular resonant rate the molecule will absorb just enough energy until the Hydrogen atoms separate from the Oxygen. This is an extremely efficient way of electrolizing the water.
I imagine if the process is performed properly very little power will be needed since the molecule will be reacting to a pure potential with very little real power being dissipated.
This is the type of system I would like to build....... Alas I never seem to be able to get off my ass to do it. I am however pleased to see more interest in attempting to implement any of the embodiments shown here.
Maybe someday....... keep on truckin guys! One Truth.... many realities
Anonymous Coward User ID: 356646 5/7/2008 10:05 AM
Re: Alternative Fuels-Using WATER to convert engine to a hybrid DIY!!
Thanks for the response, I am in new england so I guess this will have to wait.
As I understand it, this is not simple electrolysis , but like the poster before me stated, it is much more efficient. The exact frequency and wave is what is responsible for this highly efficient separation. It reminds me of rife machines which adjust to the specific resonant frequency of microbes. This radiant energy is accepted by them when it is of the same frequency as their own. This causes an over load of energy and a physical shattering of the microbe. This is much like how a certain note can shatter glass.
It annoys me that all these people go back to what they learned in school and assume this is basic electrolysis. There are a lot of things that are withheld from us because they are simply too good, and there is a lot of nonsense that is common knowledge and also is taught in school. We know so very little about the true nature of things. To dismiss anything that doesnt fit into a our limited understanding is pretty close minded. Im not saying all abstract technologies and ideas are functional, but this one does seem to be.
I really want to get one of these installed but im no good at working on cars or electronics. I wish I was.
Im wondering if I could buy one and have my mechanic install it.
Hes probably not even heard of this technology yet.
Id really like to improve my MPG 50% though.
I have been looking into this for a while.
I do also have a few concerns. One being, how to fix the problem with the oxygen sensor.
Ive also seen systems that do a 50% increase while running cool without making any steam, this seems better to me without the steam and heat.
Im worried that my mechanic and I wont know how to tweak it to get it right, change the amps and get the electrolyte right. That is if we can even get it installed properly. I wonder if he would be able to mount it without some kind of premade hardware.
Another thing is I live in the north east and plan to move even further north near the canadian border. Most of the year the water would freeze without some heater or something. I guess you would have to install a heater tape on it. I suppose this is not the biggest issue.
I also hope that this would not mess up my engine. How long have you guys been running these with no problems?
On top of all this, I would have to this conversion on the cheap, maybe 400 maximum. Still, Id love to do it.
I guess I will wait till a fully complete, cheap and easy kit comes along I can get my mechanic to install.
and read the automotive application section. in the forum stated before theres a few people that are working on and /or completed a o2 sensor adjuster? already. where and how to mount the cell will depend on your hydroxy cell structure and your vehicle make. Freezing in the winter would be a problem i belive... maybe there can be an additive? who knows. Start your own build. try things out. As far as it messing up your engine if you can get the air/fuel mixture right for all of the engines RPM range you shouldn't see any problems(considering your engine is of quality and in somewhat tip top shape) From what i have been reading the hydroxy will clean carbon deposits left from fossilfuels. On older engines (120k miles+) this may become a problem because your engine's material wears its self onto the deposits. If you live near the michigan area i would be glad to help.
Quoting: Grower
Anonymous Coward User ID: 356646 5/7/2008 10:08 AM
Re: Alternative Fuels-Using WATER to convert engine to a hybrid DIY!!
Oh also my car has 159k miles
Ive heard you can unhook the o2 sensor and install a scan gauge instead. My car is too old for this though I think. Also Ive heard you can get an EIFE or something and this will fix the o2 problem but I dont know how this would work.
Thanks for the response, I am in new england so I guess this will have to wait.
As I understand it, this is not simple electrolysis , but like the poster before me stated, it is much more efficient. The exact frequency and wave is what is responsible for this highly efficient separation. It reminds me of rife machines which adjust to the specific resonant frequency of microbes. This radiant energy is accepted by them when it is of the same frequency as their own. This causes an over load of energy and a physical shattering of the microbe. This is much like how a certain note can shatter glass.
It annoys me that all these people go back to what they learned in school and assume this is basic electrolysis. There are a lot of things that are withheld from us because they are simply too good, and there is a lot of nonsense that is common knowledge and also is taught in school. We know so very little about the true nature of things. To dismiss anything that doesnt fit into a our limited understanding is pretty close minded. Im not saying all abstract technologies and ideas are functional, but this one does seem to be.
I really want to get one of these installed but im no good at working on cars or electronics. I wish I was.
Im wondering if I could buy one and have my mechanic install it.
Hes probably not even heard of this technology yet.
Id really like to improve my MPG 50% though.
I have been looking into this for a while.
I do also have a few concerns. One being, how to fix the problem with the oxygen sensor.
Ive also seen systems that do a 50% increase while running cool without making any steam, this seems better to me without the steam and heat.
Im worried that my mechanic and I wont know how to tweak it to get it right, change the amps and get the electrolyte right. That is if we can even get it installed properly. I wonder if he would be able to mount it without some kind of premade hardware.
Another thing is I live in the north east and plan to move even further north near the canadian border. Most of the year the water would freeze without some heater or something. I guess you would have to install a heater tape on it. I suppose this is not the biggest issue.
I also hope that this would not mess up my engine. How long have you guys been running these with no problems?
On top of all this, I would have to this conversion on the cheap, maybe 400 maximum. Still, Id love to do it.
I guess I will wait till a fully complete, cheap and easy kit comes along I can get my mechanic to install.
and read the automotive application section. in the forum stated before theres a few people that are working on and /or completed a o2 sensor adjuster? already. where and how to mount the cell will depend on your hydroxy cell structure and your vehicle make. Freezing in the winter would be a problem i belive... maybe there can be an additive? who knows. Start your own build. try things out. As far as it messing up your engine if you can get the air/fuel mixture right for all of the engines RPM range you shouldn't see any problems(considering your engine is of quality and in somewhat tip top shape) From what i have been reading the hydroxy will clean carbon deposits left from fossilfuels. On older engines (120k miles+) this may become a problem because your engine's material wears its self onto the deposits. If you live near the michigan area i would be glad to help.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 356646
Anonymous Coward User ID: 395520 5/7/2008 10:11 AM
Re: Alternative Fuels-Using WATER to convert engine to a hybrid DIY!!
This guy is selling these on ebay
They are supposed to run cool with lower power but get around 50% increase. They are also not too costly
"The Punch 1.0
This is a prototype cell that we have been developing over the past few months. Our goal is to provide you with the most efficient HHO cell available! We feel that we have accomplished this goal with our new Punch 1.0 cell.
Where wire is nice and will work, it's thin. If you know anything about electronics you know that thin conductors at any length become very resistant and act like resistors making extreme amounts of heat, even in low current applications. But, with the PUNCH cell we use large flat stainless steel plates. These plates are highly conductive and do not get hot like wire. They also provide 1,000 times more surface area than even the largest amount of wire you could stuff into a cell this size.
The Plates
Our plates are specially designed 316 stainless steel. We have not had a lifetime to test them, so we can not say they will last a lifetime; but, according to all the research we have done they are supposed to last a lifetime! They each plate measures 10 inches long and 3 inches wide giving an amazing amount of surface area for unbelievable production!
Here is a plate configuration example of what is in the cell you are purchasing. This is our base configuration of 5 cells and 10 plates! This feature is included in the Punch 1.0. We find this amount of plates / cells to be the most efficient yet! Each Custom Built Cell will have a similar plate configuration as well.
The Punch 1.0 low voltage series plate design
The Electrolysis process actually begins at 1.24 volts. Anything above and beyond 1.24 volts becomes heat and wasted energy. This heat also produces steam, in some cases boiling the water and electrolyte making a lot of steam. That amount of steam running through your engine is not good to say the least! That's why we demanded that the Punch 1.0 must use a 5 cell series design so we can drop the voltage to a cool 2.76 volts per cell rather than the raw 13.8 volts that most all cell designs use.
Why doesn't the Punch cell have all the bells and whistles like some of the other cells on the Internet have?
Hydrogen/ oxygen gas consists of extremely small molecules that escape through even the smallest of spaces; and, I'm talking small spaces - fill up a small balloon and see how quickly it deflates, (within minutes)! That's why we don't put a 4 connection water level gauge or a drain cap at the bottom. None of this stuff is necessary. If you really intend to use this in your car then you have done your homework and know you will only need to add a few ounces of water every few weeks. There is no need for gas leaking connections all over the cell. Unscrewing the fill cap every few weeks and shining a pen light inside the cell will keep you on top of the water level situation! We try to make our connections as few, small and sealed as possible.
"
Go to the above website where for $100 you can buy plans to convert your car to a hybrid for a couple hundred dollars. The plans show you 5 ways to increase gas mileage. One of the improvements includes a hydrogen cell. Once you buy the plans you will also have access to a website that has a list of suppliers that have ready made kits. I bought the plans myself and was very impressed. What you really buy is access to a URL. I would give that URL but feel it would not be fair to those who have put the information together.
I have personaly modified a lawnmower to run off of water and gas using the GEET Carburetor technology. I am in the process of working with a welder to create an improved gas tank to see if we can improve it's efficiency. This welder is also a mechanic who has installed a hydrogen cell he purchased from this website. [link to www.fuelfromh2o.com] I am working with him to implement the other 4 ideas from the water4gas website.
I have a nephew who was trained in Arizona about 8 weeks ago on how to install the Hydrogen Assist Fuel Cell from the company found at this website. [link to www.preignitioncc.com]
This company guarantees a 50% increase after you have the complete system installed and then had the vehicle tuned. They also have a system called PICC based on the GEET Carburetor that includes a modification to the catalytic converter that gets about 180 mpg on a small block v8. Because there is a law that does not allow changing the catalytic converter they are not able to sale this product to the public yet. It is the same technology I am using on my lawn mower.
I live in Sandy Utah which is just south of Salt Lake. I think there is a person on this thread in Salt Lake who is looking for someone to install a system. If so respond to this thread and I will hook you up with the mechanic I am working with. The other possibility is to contact a company in Provo, Utah caled Team Everest. They are currently installing the Hydrogen Assist Fuel Cell that my nephew received training on.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 429351 5/7/2008 11:38 AM
Re: Alternative Fuels-Using WATER to convert engine to a hybrid DIY!!
I suppose putting 2 highly explosive fuels into a cylinder along with gasoline wont make it ignite better. hell, who the fuck thought it would you should be shot in the forehead.
What you can't seem to grasp is that it takes more gasoline to run the alternator that powers the electrolysis than you can get back from the piddling amounts of hydrogen it cracks. Ever heard of the laws of thermodynamics?:
Earlier in this thread I spoke about possible block damage, we looked at dozens of designs too. I talked to an engineer who took an engine apart after running a system for a year. the caustics in the electrolyte were causing block damage. You get micro misting in the H2 stream the mist comes from the electrolizer and carries the caustics into the block. Most systems out there tell you to use sodium hydroxide or potassium hydroxide, "DRAINO", or "RED DEVIL LYE". just save your self the hassle and pore it into your crankcase, that way you only have to wait a short while till you ruin your engine.
Now does injecting hydrogen or "Browns gas" into your vehicles air intake work, yes it does. But be "Very" careful before you do. Hydrogen burns better than gas or diesel and causes your primary fuel to burn better too. Just make sure your design doesn't include caustics, one design I looked at uses battery acid same problem , another uses sea salt, problem here is not only do you produce hydrogen but the salt beaks down and you produce chlorine gas another caustic.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 399680
I took the trouble to correct your misspelled words. Do you know MS has a spell corrector add-on that you can download? I use FireFox which underlines your misspelled words as you type.
Anyway, I warned Evil Twin about this last night. This is why the latest designs are using filter canisters with various media to trap fluid and provide an anti-flashback mechanism. (Incidentally Evil Twin, I advise you to quit using glass jars. Go to polypropylene which is less likely to cut you all up if it explodes.)(Build your unit in those filter canisters that can be bought all over the place)
Poster scimitar; User ID: 373365
is on to what Bob Boyce is trying to gain toward (IMO) although Boyce still using electrolytes. He is combining pulsed DC at three different frequencies. You need to go to overunity dot com and look for the TPU & "Lords of the Ring" to gain further understanding of what might be some hidden principles of physics.
cameldreamer User ID: 429368 5/7/2008 12:10 PM
Re: Alternative Fuels-Using WATER to convert engine to a hybrid DIY!!
Can you tell me what current and voltage you are using in this set-up?
Can you tell me what is the amount of ml per minute this unit produces?
What is your increase in performance with this unit in your vehicle?
What is the thickness inox wire used?
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