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The Beginning Birth Pangs

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Digital Rapture
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5/6/2008 11:08 PM

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I feel as though the first three and a half years of tribulations has just begun. We've got earthquakes, volcanos, cyclones and i'm sure hurricanes will set records once again. But this would mean that the "treaty of death" or "covenant of death" would have been made already. Any word on that?
Anonymous Coward
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5/6/2008 11:16 PM
Re: The Beginning Birth PangsQuote

what makes you say that?
Anonymous Coward
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5/6/2008 11:21 PM
Re: The Beginning Birth PangsQuote

I feel as though the first three and a half years of tribulations has just begun. We've got earthquakes, volcanos, cyclones and i'm sure hurricanes will set records once again. But this would mean that the "treaty of death" or "covenant of death" would have been made already. Any word on that?
 Quoting: Digital Rapture

the 3.5 years HASNT BEGUN YET. there has been no 7 year peace treaty signed by the antichrist yet.
mathetes Subscriber
User ID: 327572
United States
5/6/2008 11:23 PM
Re: The Beginning Birth PangsQuote

I feel as though the first three and a half years of tribulations has just begun. We've got earthquakes, volcanos, cyclones and i'm sure hurricanes will set records once again. But this would mean that the "treaty of death" or "covenant of death" would have been made already. Any word on that?
 Quoting: Digital Rapture

Daniel wrote that "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week"

Not make but confirm?

Also the falling away must come first 2Thess.2
He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 398503
United States
5/6/2008 11:25 PM
Re: The Beginning Birth PangsQuote

I feel as though the first three and a half years of tribulations has just begun. We've got earthquakes, volcanos, cyclones and i'm sure hurricanes will set records once again. But this would mean that the "treaty of death" or "covenant of death" would have been made already. Any word on that?

Daniel wrote that "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week"

Not make but confirm?

Also the falling away must come first 2Thess.2
 Quoting: mathetes

can u explain the falling away for meplease?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 329296
United States
5/6/2008 11:28 PM
Re: The Beginning Birth PangsQuote

Bush is going to Israel next week for its 60th birthday. He is determined to get that peace treaty signed before he leaves office. Watch.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 398503
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5/6/2008 11:30 PM
Re: The Beginning Birth PangsQuote

Bush is going to Israel next week for its 60th birthday. He is determined to get that peace treaty signed before he leaves office. Watch.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 329296

i thought that at first. But then i remembered that the antichrist will be someone who everyone likes and adores. Bush is definitly not the antichrist. I stil think its the pope.
Turtles Know Subscriber
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User ID: 406673
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5/6/2008 11:33 PM
Re: The Beginning Birth PangsQuote

I feel as though the first three and a half years of tribulations has just begun. We've got earthquakes, volcanos, cyclones and i'm sure hurricanes will set records once again. But this would mean that the "treaty of death" or "covenant of death" would have been made already. Any word on that?

Daniel wrote that "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week"

Not make but confirm?

Also the falling away must come first 2Thess.2
 Quoting: mathetes


How would we perceive this confirmation, Math? And do you not feel there has already been a falling away?
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mathetes Subscriber
User ID: 327572
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5/6/2008 11:34 PM
Re: The Beginning Birth PangsQuote

I feel as though the first three and a half years of tribulations has just begun. We've got earthquakes, volcanos, cyclones and i'm sure hurricanes will set records once again. But this would mean that the "treaty of death" or "covenant of death" would have been made already. Any word on that?

Daniel wrote that "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week"

Not make but confirm?

Also the falling away must come first 2Thess.2

can u explain the falling away for meplease?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 398503

Sure! In 2Thess chapter Paul is writing to a church who has been fooled into thinking they have "missed" the return of Christ, he then lays out a clear sequence of events that must happen first.

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

Falling away is translated from the Greek apostasy, remember he was writing to Christians! And non-beleivers
cannot depart or apostate from the faith. It is a clear message that an event will happen to turn many in Christians(In name only) away from the faith
He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
Dread Pirate Roberts
User ID: 428784
United States
5/6/2008 11:41 PM
Re: The Beginning Birth PangsQuote

there are 4 major prophecies that will occur almost simultaneously that will signal the transition from the end times to the beginning of the tribulation:

Prophecy #1

The final seven years will begin when the Antichrist and the international community give their support to Israel's right to exist in the land promised to Abraham by God. This is called the confirmation of the covenant. The Annapolis Treaty talks begun by Bush on 11-07 and which he has stated WILL be signed by the tiem he has left office, is nearing completion. This treaty, if it contains the important elements, will be the confirmation of the covenant. The elements it needs to contain ar the final borders of Israel, disposition of Jerusalem, and a shared Temple arrangement. So far, the talks are including al those three. If that happens or whenever it happens, it appears that will be the confirmation of the covenant and the beginning of the final seven years to Armageddon.

#2:

A massive war will begin from the vicinity of the Euphrates River resulting in the killing of one-third part of men. The prophecy is found in Revelation 9:13-16. The Euphrates runs throug...Iraq, a place in which a war has been ongoing for some years and is by all accounts, heating up.

#3: Preparations for the Mark of the Beast--in place now with REAL ID, verichip, cashless society etc

#4: Third Temple rebuilt, it's entirely prepared and ready to be assembled in a heartbeat. Furniture, robes, cornerstones, priests trained, it's all set.

So it is my opinion that we are toward the end of the birth pangs and once the treaty is signed, whether that be May or October, it is the beginning of the tribulation.

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mathetes Subscriber
User ID: 327572
United States
5/6/2008 11:42 PM
Re: The Beginning Birth PangsQuote

I feel as though the first three and a half years of tribulations has just begun. We've got earthquakes, volcanos, cyclones and i'm sure hurricanes will set records once again. But this would mean that the "treaty of death" or "covenant of death" would have been made already. Any word on that?

Daniel wrote that "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week"

Not make but confirm?

Also the falling away must come first 2Thess.2


How would we perceive this confirmation, Math? And do you not feel there has already been a falling away?
 Quoting: Turtles Know

From my limited study of Greek I rely on the experts

This falling away=apostasy will be a singular event not gradual, it is better expressed as THE APOSTACY one not ever seen before. How would the World react to a confirmed tomb of Jesus? (Not the joke done last summer)
Remember when asked by his disciples about his return Jesus' very first words were "Do not be decieved"!

I feel its close and it will be a world changing event
He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 398503
United States
5/6/2008 11:43 PM
Re: The Beginning Birth PangsQuote

I feel as though the first three and a half years of tribulations has just begun. We've got earthquakes, volcanos, cyclones and i'm sure hurricanes will set records once again. But this would mean that the "treaty of death" or "covenant of death" would have been made already. Any word on that?

Daniel wrote that "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week"

Not make but confirm?

Also the falling away must come first 2Thess.2

can u explain the falling away for meplease?

Sure! In 2Thess chapter Paul is writing to a church who has been fooled into thinking they have "missed" the return of Christ, he then lays out a clear sequence of events that must happen first.

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

Falling away is translated from the Greek apostasy, remember he was writing to Christians! And non-beleivers
cannot depart or apostate from the faith. It is a clear message that an event will happen to turn many in Christians(In name only) away from the faith
 Quoting: mathetes

So that means there is a chance that i will fall away from faith when that event happens?
Turtles Know Subscriber
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User ID: 406673
United States
5/6/2008 11:48 PM
Re: The Beginning Birth PangsQuote

I feel as though the first three and a half years of tribulations has just begun. We've got earthquakes, volcanos, cyclones and i'm sure hurricanes will set records once again. But this would mean that the "treaty of death" or "covenant of death" would have been made already. Any word on that?

Daniel wrote that "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week"

Not make but confirm?

Also the falling away must come first 2Thess.2


How would we perceive this confirmation, Math? And do you not feel there has already been a falling away?

From my limited study of Greek I rely on the experts

This falling away=apostasy will be a singular event not gradual, it is better expressed as THE APOSTACY one not ever seen before. How would the World react to a confirmed tomb of Jesus? (Not the joke done last summer)
Remember when asked by his disciples about his return Jesus' very first words were "Do not be decieved"!

I feel its close and it will be a world changing event
 Quoting: mathetes


Thanks Math, but I must say I worry that we are being deceived, I can't put it into words as well as I would like, but I wonder if we are expecting these revelations to come to us through our leaders or newsprint.

Many things are happening throughout the world and I wonder if we cannot see the magnitude of them ... just pondering, no offense intended. hf
No drummer out there is scared of you, Turtles.
AC 586763

push the button and ignore all the lies
you can't live forever, but you can still try [link to myspace.com]

They say the meek inherit the earth, but who, then, gets the kingdom?
[link to turtlesvoice.blogspot.com]
mathetes Subscriber
User ID: 327572
United States
5/6/2008 11:51 PM
Re: The Beginning Birth PangsQuote

I feel as though the first three and a half years of tribulations has just begun. We've got earthquakes, volcanos, cyclones and i'm sure hurricanes will set records once again. But this would mean that the "treaty of death" or "covenant of death" would have been made already. Any word on that?

Daniel wrote that "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week"

Not make but confirm?

Also the falling away must come first 2Thess.2

can u explain the falling away for meplease?

Sure! In 2Thess chapter Paul is writing to a church who has been fooled into thinking they have "missed" the return of Christ, he then lays out a clear sequence of events that must happen first.

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

Falling away is translated from the Greek apostasy, remember he was writing to Christians! And non-beleivers
cannot depart or apostate from the faith. It is a clear message that an event will happen to turn many in Christians(In name only) away from the faith

So that means there is a chance that i will fall away from faith when that event happens?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 398503

The elect, true believers will never fall away.

We are told this so when this comes to pass it will strengthen our faith. But the lie told in the mega churches about a great revival are false
He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 398503
United States
5/6/2008 11:56 PM
Re: The Beginning Birth PangsQuote

I feel as though the first three and a half years of tribulations has just begun. We've got earthquakes, volcanos, cyclones and i'm sure hurricanes will set records once again. But this would mean that the "treaty of death" or "covenant of death" would have been made already. Any word on that?

Daniel wrote that "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week"

Not make but confirm?

Also the falling away must come first 2Thess.2

can u explain the falling away for meplease?

Sure! In 2Thess chapter Paul is writing to a church who has been fooled into thinking they have "missed" the return of Christ, he then lays out a clear sequence of events that must happen first.

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

Falling away is translated from the Greek apostasy, remember he was writing to Christians! And non-beleivers
cannot depart or apostate from the faith. It is a clear message that an event will happen to turn many in Christians(In name only) away from the faith

So that means there is a chance that i will fall away from faith when that event happens?

The elect, true believers will never fall away.

We are told this so when this comes to pass it will strengthen our faith. But the lie told in the mega churches about a great revival are false
 Quoting: mathetes

i just have 1 more question then ill stop bothering u lol. How does someone know if they are the elect or a true believer?
mathetes Subscriber
User ID: 327572
United States
5/6/2008 11:56 PM
Re: The Beginning Birth PangsQuote

I feel as though the first three and a half years of tribulations has just begun. We've got earthquakes, volcanos, cyclones and i'm sure hurricanes will set records once again. But this would mean that the "treaty of death" or "covenant of death" would have been made already. Any word on that?

Daniel wrote that "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week"

Not make but confirm?

Also the falling away must come first 2Thess.2


How would we perceive this confirmation, Math? And do you not feel there has already been a falling away?

From my limited study of Greek I rely on the experts

This falling away=apostasy will be a singular event not gradual, it is better expressed as THE APOSTACY one not ever seen before. How would the World react to a confirmed tomb of Jesus? (Not the joke done last summer)
Remember when asked by his disciples about his return Jesus' very first words were "Do not be decieved"!

I feel its close and it will be a world changing event


Thanks Math, but I must say I worry that we are being deceived, I can't put it into words as well as I would like, but I wonder if we are expecting these revelations to come to us through our leaders or newsprint.

Many things are happening throughout the world and I wonder if we cannot see the magnitude of them ... just pondering, no offense intended. hf
 Quoting: Turtles Know

None taken my friend, the spirit of deception has been with us since the time of John. But I firmly believe that something of a mag. never seen before will befall mankind
My goal is to let fellow believers at least be aware of this possibilty
He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
mathetes Subscriber
User ID: 327572
United States
5/7/2008 12:03 AM
Re: The Beginning Birth PangsQuote

I feel as though the first three and a half years of tribulations has just begun. We've got earthquakes, volcanos, cyclones and i'm sure hurricanes will set records once again. But this would mean that the "treaty of death" or "covenant of death" would have been made already. Any word on that?

Daniel wrote that "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week"

Not make but confirm?

Also the falling away must come first 2Thess.2

can u explain the falling away for meplease?

Sure! In 2Thess chapter Paul is writing to a church who has been fooled into thinking they have "missed" the return of Christ, he then lays out a clear sequence of events that must happen first.

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

Falling away is translated from the Greek apostasy, remember he was writing to Christians! And non-beleivers
cannot depart or apostate from the faith. It is a clear message that an event will happen to turn many in Christians(In name only) away from the faith

So that means there is a chance that i will fall away from faith when that event happens?

The elect, true believers will never fall away.

We are told this so when this comes to pass it will strengthen our faith. But the lie told in the mega churches about a great revival are false

i just have 1 more question then ill stop bothering u lol. How does someone know if they are the elect or a true believer?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 398503

Your not bothering me at all,it is my pleasure to speak with you!
And its a great question!

Many are not aware that Jesus gave us commandments, on this he is specific!

If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love John 14:21

If ye love me, keep my commandments.John 14:15

And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 1John 2:3

And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us. 1John 3:24

Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. Rev.14:12
He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
C.c
User ID: 380642
Norway
5/7/2008 12:07 AM
Re: The Beginning Birth PangsQuote

Prince Charles signed a certain peace deal over 7 years ago, approved and confirmed. Don't forget, the biblical Israel is not the country Israel we have today, it refers to the tribes.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 386737
United States
5/7/2008 12:07 AM
Re: The Beginning Birth PangsQuote

Bush is going to Israel next week for its 60th birthday. He is determined to get that peace treaty signed before he leaves office. Watch.

i thought that at first. But then i remembered that the antichrist will be someone who everyone likes and adores. Bush is definitly not the antichrist. I stil think its the pope.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 398503


No the antichrist will not be somebody everyone likeS. who ever said that?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 398503
United States
5/7/2008 12:08 AM
Re: The Beginning Birth PangsQuote

I feel as though the first three and a half years of tribulations has just begun. We've got earthquakes, volcanos, cyclones and i'm sure hurricanes will set records once again. But this would mean that the "treaty of death" or "covenant of death" would have been made already. Any word on that?

Daniel wrote that "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week"

Not make but confirm?

Also the falling away must come first 2Thess.2

can u explain the falling away for meplease?

Sure! In 2Thess chapter Paul is writing to a church who has been fooled into thinking they have "missed" the return of Christ, he then lays out a clear sequence of events that must happen first.

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

Falling away is translated from the Greek apostasy, remember he was writing to Christians! And non-beleivers
cannot depart or apostate from the faith. It is a clear message that an event will happen to turn many in Christians(In name only) away from the faith

So that means there is a chance that i will fall away from faith when that event happens?

The elect, true believers will never fall away.

We are told this so when this comes to pass it will strengthen our faith. But the lie told in the mega churches about a great revival are false

i just have 1 more question then ill stop bothering u lol. How does someone know if they are the elect or a true believer?

Your not bothering me at all,it is my pleasure to speak with you!
And its a great question!

Many are not aware that Jesus gave us commandments, on this he is specific!

If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love John 14:21

If ye love me, keep my commandments.John 14:15

And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 1John 2:3

And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us. 1John 3:24

Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. Rev.14:12
 Quoting: mathetes

alright thanks.
I just need to start keeping the sabbath.
Digital Rapture
User ID: 390537
United States
5/7/2008 12:09 AM
Re: The Beginning Birth PangsQuote

So it is my opinion that we are toward the end of the birth pangs and once the treaty is signed, whether that be May or October, it is the beginning of the tribulation.
 Quoting: Dread Pirate Roberts


the pangs continue and worsen during the first 3 1/2 years, but you're right about the treaty. let's see..
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 386737
United States
5/7/2008 12:10 AM
Re: The Beginning Birth PangsQuote

Prince Charles signed a certain peace deal over 7 years ago, approved and confirmed. Don't forget, the biblical Israel is not the country Israel we have today, it refers to the tribes.
 Quoting: C.c 380642

NOTICE ALL THE SEISMIC ACTIVITY AND VOLCANOES AND CYCLONES LATELY. WE ARE AT THE END OF REVELATION 9. YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS?
mathetes Subscriber
User ID: 327572
United States
5/7/2008 12:11 AM
Re: The Beginning Birth PangsQuote

Bush is going to Israel next week for its 60th birthday. He is determined to get that peace treaty signed before he leaves office. Watch.

i thought that at first. But then i remembered that the antichrist will be someone who everyone likes and adores. Bush is definitly not the antichrist. I stil think its the pope.


No the antichrist will not be somebody everyone likeS. who ever said that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 386737

Great point! Its one of the fallicies of pop prophecy books

No wher in scripture is the antichrist/beast described as well liked, quite the opposite
He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
mathetes Subscriber
User ID: 327572
United States
5/7/2008 12:13 AM
Re: The Beginning Birth PangsQuote

I feel as though the first three and a half years of tribulations has just begun. We've got earthquakes, volcanos, cyclones and i'm sure hurricanes will set records once again. But this would mean that the "treaty of death" or "covenant of death" would have been made already. Any word on that?

Daniel wrote that "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week"

Not make but confirm?

Also the falling away must come first 2Thess.2

can u explain the falling away for meplease?

Sure! In 2Thess chapter Paul is writing to a church who has been fooled into thinking they have "missed" the return of Christ, he then lays out a clear sequence of events that must happen first.

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

Falling away is translated from the Greek apostasy, remember he was writing to Christians! And non-beleivers
cannot depart or apostate from the faith. It is a clear message that an event will happen to turn many in Christians(In name only) away from the faith

So that means there is a chance that i will fall away from faith when that event happens?

The elect, true believers will never fall away.

We are told this so when this comes to pass it will strengthen our faith. But the lie told in the mega churches about a great revival are false

i just have 1 more question then ill stop bothering u lol. How does someone know if they are the elect or a true believer?

Your not bothering me at all,it is my pleasure to speak with you!
And its a great question!

Many are not aware that Jesus gave us commandments, on this he is specific!

If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love John 14:21

If ye love me, keep my commandments.John 14:15

And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 1John 2:3

And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us. 1John 3:24

Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. Rev.14:12

alright thanks.
I just need to start keeping the sabbath.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 398503

A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

Jesus taught that the sabbath is made for man, not the other way around
He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 398503
United States
5/7/2008 12:14 AM
Re: The Beginning Birth PangsQuote

Bush is going to Israel next week for its 60th birthday. He is determined to get that peace treaty signed before he leaves office. Watch.

i thought that at first. But then i remembered that the antichrist will be someone who everyone likes and adores. Bush is definitly not the antichrist. I stil think its the pope.


No the antichrist will not be somebody everyone likeS. who ever said that?

Great point! Its one of the fallicies of pop prophecy books

No wher in scripture is the antichrist/beast described as well liked, quite the opposite
 Quoting: mathetes

WHAT?! what exactly does it say about the antichrist? I am certain that he will be like though.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 386737
United States
5/7/2008 12:18 AM
Re: The Beginning Birth PangsQuote

Bush is going to Israel next week for its 60th birthday. He is determined to get that peace treaty signed before he leaves office. Watch.

i thought that at first. But then i remembered that the antichrist will be someone who everyone likes and adores. Bush is definitly not the antichrist. I stil think its the pope.


No the antichrist will not be somebody everyone likeS. who ever said that?

Great point! Its one of the fallicies of pop prophecy books

No wher in scripture is the antichrist/beast described as well liked, quite the opposite

WHAT?! what exactly does it say about the antichrist? I am certain that he will be like though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 398503


Actually, he is called the man of sin, a great deciever who speaks boastful words. The bible also says that he will destroy wonderfully.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 398503
United States
5/7/2008 12:20 AM
Re: The Beginning Birth PangsQuote

Bush is going to Israel next week for its 60th birthday. He is determined to get that peace treaty signed before he leaves office. Watch.

i thought that at first. But then i remembered that the antichrist will be someone who everyone likes and adores. Bush is definitly not the antichrist. I stil think its the pope.


No the antichrist will not be somebody everyone likeS. who ever said that?

Great point! Its one of the fallicies of pop prophecy books

No wher in scripture is the antichrist/beast described as well liked, quite the opposite

WHAT?! what exactly does it say about the antichrist? I am certain that he will be like though.


Actually, he is called the man of sin, a great deciever who speaks boastful words. The bible also says that he will destroy wonderfully.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 386737

nope. I know he will be liked. its somewhere in the Bible.
FightingSpirit
User ID: 429132
United States
5/7/2008 12:22 AM
Re: The Beginning Birth PangsQuote

Whoever had the thought in this thread that we are being deceived NOW....You got that right!...

We have "been" being DECEIVED...You're on the right track with that one....

MANY follow the Anti Christ NOW....
"Pray for solace..Pray for resolve..Pray for a savior..Pray for deliverance..Some kind of purpose..A glimpse of a LIGHT in this VOID OF EXISTENCE..Now witness the END of an age..Hope dies in hands of believers..Who seek the truth in the LIAR'S EYE"

"The greatest TRICK the Devil ever pulled was not convincing the world he doesn't exist..But convincing it that he is GOD"

"I have no pleasure in any man who despises music. It is no invention of ours: It is a gift of GOD. I place it next to theology. Satan hates music: He knows how it drives the EVIL spirit OUT of US."
- Martin Luther


"What have I done?..Where have I come from?..When I burnt the backs with the SUN through a GLASS..Did I SEAL the loss that's become me?.. Feeling undone..What have I become? ..When I turned my back on you..I turned my back on MYSELF and became this MACHINE"

"What you IGNORE now..Will come OUT of YOU later"

"Stones to throw at my Creator..
MASOCHISTS to which I cater..You don't need to bother..I don't need to be..I'll keep slipping farther..
But once I hold on..I won't let go 'til it BLEEDS"
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 386737
United States
5/7/2008 12:22 AM
Re: The Beginning Birth PangsQuote

Bush is going to Israel next week for its 60th birthday. He is determined to get that peace treaty signed before he leaves office. Watch.

i thought that at first. But then i remembered that the antichrist will be someone who everyone likes and adores. Bush is definitly not the antichrist. I stil think its the pope.


No the antichrist will not be somebody everyone likeS. who ever said that?

Great point! Its one of the fallicies of pop prophecy books

No wher in scripture is the antichrist/beast described as well liked, quite the opposite

WHAT?! what exactly does it say about the antichrist? I am certain that he will be like though.


Actually, he is called the man of sin, a great deciever who speaks boastful words. The bible also says that he will destroy wonderfully.

nope. I know he will be liked. its somewhere in the Bible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 398503

Then, my friend, you have already been deceived.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 398503
United States
5/7/2008 12:23 AM
Re: The Beginning Birth PangsQuote

why dont u think he wont be liked?
C.c
User ID: 380642
Norway
5/7/2008 12:26 AM
Re: The Beginning Birth PangsQuote

Prince Charles signed a certain peace deal over 7 years ago, approved and confirmed. Don't forget, the biblical Israel is not the country Israel we have today, it refers to the tribes.

NOTICE ALL THE SEISMIC ACTIVITY AND VOLCANOES AND CYCLONES LATELY. WE ARE AT THE END OF REVELATION 9. YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 386737

....oh yes. The time is NOW.
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