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advice. am i foolish to take down the managers and GM of my company for internal theft?
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 430070
5/9/2008 2:03 PM
Report abusive post | advice. am i foolish to take down the managers and GM of my company for internal theft?
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curious as to if anyone has done this...what my first move should be...i know calling HR never works...any advice? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 430449
5/9/2008 2:05 PM | | Re: advice. am i foolish to take down the managers and GM of my company for internal theft? | Quote |
yes that sounds foolish. get close them and blackmail them instead. you'll feel a lot better about it when you're sitting in a million euro Tuscan villa. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 430070 (OP)
5/9/2008 2:07 PM | | Re: advice. am i foolish to take down the managers and GM of my company for internal theft? | Quote |
yes that sounds foolish. get close them and blackmail them instead. you'll feel a lot better about it when you're sitting in a million euro Tuscan villa. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 430449
i try to be pretty moral. especially if someone else catches them out and they take me down with them. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 373696
5/9/2008 2:09 PM | | Re: advice. am i foolish to take down the managers and GM of my company for internal theft? | Quote |
Depends on the company. Is there a corporate headquarters? Are you a stockholder? If it's a small, privately held company, can you reach the owner? Do you like your job?
Not much help I know. I believe in doing the right thing whenever possible, and that rarely includes blackmail.
On the other hand, if a million euro Tuscan villa is a real possibility... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 426392
5/9/2008 2:10 PM | | Re: advice. am i foolish to take down the managers and GM of my company for internal theft? | Quote |
I believe if you knowingly have information about fraud being committed, do nothing about it and they then get caught, that you could be held as an accessory after the fact, but don't quote me on that. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 430070 (OP)
5/9/2008 2:11 PM | | Re: advice. am i foolish to take down the managers and GM of my company for internal theft? | Quote |
yes there is a corporate HQ. it's the leader in what it does. its no microsoft of course, not THAT large of importance, but...i cant stand that kind of stuff...internal theft at the highest level while they preach the opposite. i know it goes on all the time but each situation is brought to a person for a reason |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 430449
5/9/2008 2:11 PM | | Re: advice. am i foolish to take down the managers and GM of my company for internal theft? | Quote |
yes that sounds foolish. get close them and blackmail them instead. you'll feel a lot better about it when you're sitting in a million euro Tuscan villa.
i try to be pretty moral. especially if someone else catches them out and they take me down with them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 430070
that's why you insist on a one time only large sum and then disappear forever. you don't extort money from someone and then carry on in your day job, you do it right and change your life (and continent). |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 373696
5/9/2008 2:16 PM | | Re: advice. am i foolish to take down the managers and GM of my company for internal theft? | Quote |
yes there is a corporate HQ. it's the leader in what it does. its no microsoft of course, not THAT large of importance, but...i cant stand that kind of stuff...internal theft at the highest level while they preach the opposite. i know it goes on all the time but each situation is brought to a person for a reason Quoting: Anonymous Coward 430070
Usually a corp. like that will have a security officer of some sort. Try to reach them, but you'd better have real evidence of something specific, and bigger than office supplies, or you'll look extra foolish on the unemployment line. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 430419
5/9/2008 2:16 PM | | Re: advice. am i foolish to take down the managers and GM of my company for internal theft? | Quote |
you would be foolish not to get in on it and demand a promotion. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 414461
5/9/2008 2:17 PM | | Re: advice. am i foolish to take down the managers and GM of my company for internal theft? | Quote |
OP, I would just be happy if you could make GM admit that the rocker panels and cab corners on their trucks rust through on purpose. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 430070 (OP)
5/9/2008 2:17 PM | | Re: advice. am i foolish to take down the managers and GM of my company for internal theft? | Quote |
yes there is a corporate HQ. it's the leader in what it does. its no microsoft of course, not THAT large of importance, but...i cant stand that kind of stuff...internal theft at the highest level while they preach the opposite. i know it goes on all the time but each situation is brought to a person for a reason
Usually a corp. like that will have a security officer of some sort. Try to reach them, but you'd better have real evidence of something specific, and bigger than office supplies, or you'll look extra foolish on the unemployment line. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 373696
yeah..its definitely more than paper clips hehe.
i'm currently gathering the evidence, have a substantial amount, definitely enough for action, but theres the need for 150% undeniable proof that it cant be passed off on anyone else that i am still searching for. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 430070 (OP)
5/9/2008 2:18 PM | | Re: advice. am i foolish to take down the managers and GM of my company for internal theft? | Quote |
GM meaning general manager, not GM general motors. just for clarification! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 430377
5/9/2008 2:19 PM | | Re: advice. am i foolish to take down the managers and GM of my company for internal theft? | Quote |
You weren't passed over for a raise or promotion, or something like that, were you? |
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Rota
User ID: 418784
5/9/2008 2:20 PM
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Well if you need your job just know that the corruption in your company is known and condoned by the higher ups.
Corruption is rampant in many corporations today. Whistleblowers get destroyed/fired. I would never report anything inside your company. The only way to protect yourself is to report it anonymously outside your company with information that cannot lead back to you.
Before I did anything I would first make copies of as much corruption as I could get my hands on. If they know you have copies of information that could bring them down then you have a bargaining chip.
There was this very pretty girl that joined this big corporation right out of school. She went right to the top. She began stealing money from the company and they caught her. They then brought charges against her. But they soon mysteriously dropped the charges.....paid her a big sum of money and she left just as happy as she could be.
Come to find out she went around having affairs with all....and I mean "all" of the big shots in the corporation and had recorded them while they talked on the phone about sex. She also had video of the sex encounters. Seems her husband was in on it and helped secretly record the videos. They set those corporation leaders up big time and got away with it. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 430070 (OP)
5/9/2008 2:20 PM | | Re: advice. am i foolish to take down the managers and GM of my company for internal theft? | Quote |
You weren't passed over for a raise or promotion, or something like that, were you? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 430377
no i got my promotion. i currently am content with where i am in the company, and spoken very highly of. its just that i cannot stand these types of situations. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 430070 (OP)
5/9/2008 2:21 PM | | Re: advice. am i foolish to take down the managers and GM of my company for internal theft? | Quote |
You weren't passed over for a raise or promotion, or something like that, were you? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 430377
no i got my promotion. i currently am content with where i am in the company, and spoken very highly of. its just that i cannot stand these types of situations. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 373696
5/9/2008 2:22 PM | | Re: advice. am i foolish to take down the managers and GM of my company for internal theft? | Quote |
yeah..its definitely more than paper clips hehe.
i'm currently gathering the evidence, have a substantial amount, definitely enough for action, but theres the need for 150% undeniable proof that it cant be passed off on anyone else that i am still searching for. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 430070
Be prepared for headaches. Even if you have the proof & they fire the miscreants, saving the stockholders tons of money, people will look on you as a troublemaker. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 430070 (OP)
5/9/2008 2:22 PM | | Re: advice. am i foolish to take down the managers and GM of my company for internal theft? | Quote |
Well if you need your job just know that the corruption in your company is known and condoned by the higher ups.
Corruption is rampant in many corporations today. Whistleblowers get destroyed/fired. I would never report anything inside your company. The only way to protect yourself is to report it anonymously outside your company with information that cannot lead back to you.
Before I did anything I would first make copies of as much corroption as I could get my hands on. If they know you have copies of inforamtion that could bring them down then you have a bargaining chip.
There was this very pretty girl that joined this big corporation right out of school. She went right to the top. She began stealing money from the company and they caught her. They then brought charges against her. But they soon mysteriously dropped the charges.....paid her a big sum of money and she left just as happy as she could be.
Come to find out she went around having affairs with all....and I mean "all" of the big shots in the corporation and had recorded them while they talked on the phone about sex. She also had video of the sex encounters. Seems her husband was in on it and helped secretly record the videos. They set those corporation leaders up big time and got away with it. Quoting: Rota
interesting story |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 425273
5/9/2008 2:23 PM | | Re: advice. am i foolish to take down the managers and GM of my company for internal theft? | Quote |
Turn the theives in anonymously. Send an anonymous tip to the CEO or the media or even the police, whichever you think would be the most effective in your particular situation. This way you do the right thing without putting yourself at risk. Good luck. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 430070 (OP)
5/9/2008 2:24 PM | | Re: advice. am i foolish to take down the managers and GM of my company for internal theft? | Quote |
yeah..its definitely more than paper clips hehe.
i'm currently gathering the evidence, have a substantial amount, definitely enough for action, but theres the need for 150% undeniable proof that it cant be passed off on anyone else that i am still searching for.
Be prepared for headaches. Even if you have the proof & they fire the miscreants, saving the stockholders tons of money, people will look on you as a troublemaker. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 373696
thats the thing....they already see me as a mover and a shaker, whom people rally behind in times of rough decisions and harsh moments in the company. thats my major issue with this...i'm seen as the outsider who came in, stands out in a "he doesnt fit the mold" type of way, yet performs above and beyond what is expected, and its greatly seen by all..
i'm afraid thats what would be my own demise, if i proceeded. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 385879
5/9/2008 2:25 PM | | Re: advice. am i foolish to take down the managers and GM of my company for internal theft? | Quote |
go for it. as long as you realize what the ramifications will be. not enough brave people out there. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 341677
5/9/2008 2:25 PM | | Re: advice. am i foolish to take down the managers and GM of my company for internal theft? | Quote |
curious as to if anyone has done this...what my first move should be...i know calling HR never works...any advice? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 430070
Chances are, IF you report something, YOU will take the heat and not the guilty parties.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 73466
5/9/2008 2:26 PM | | Re: advice. am i foolish to take down the managers and GM of my company for internal theft? | Quote |
You're not a hypocriticizer are you? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 373696
5/9/2008 2:27 PM | | Re: advice. am i foolish to take down the managers and GM of my company for internal theft? | Quote |
thats the thing....they already see me as a mover and a shaker, whom people rally behind in times of rough decisions and harsh moments in the company. thats my major issue with this...i'm seen as the outsider who came in, stands out in a "he doesnt fit the mold" type of way, yet performs above and beyond what is expected, and its greatly seen by all..
i'm afraid thats what would be my own demise, if i proceeded. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 430070
It probably would. Like some others have said, find a way to do it anonymously. Or find a way to convince your worst enemy to do it. Be the last man standing. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 430070 (OP)
5/9/2008 2:33 PM | | Re: advice. am i foolish to take down the managers and GM of my company for internal theft? | Quote |
thats the thing....they already see me as a mover and a shaker, whom people rally behind in times of rough decisions and harsh moments in the company. thats my major issue with this...i'm seen as the outsider who came in, stands out in a "he doesnt fit the mold" type of way, yet performs above and beyond what is expected, and its greatly seen by all..
i'm afraid thats what would be my own demise, if i proceeded.
It probably would. Like some others have said, find a way to do it anonymously. Or find a way to convince your worst enemy to do it. Be the last man standing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 373696
eh..i'm not about to set someone up for a fall..i'd be brave enough to do it myself, or nothing at all.
we'll see tonight. there seems to be one person there i can trust, whom I shall have to speak with tonight....i'll keep ya posted. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 366726
5/9/2008 2:34 PM | | Re: advice. am i foolish to take down the managers and GM of my company for internal theft? | Quote |
If your story isn't bs, which I question.... I hope you are not at work today on their computer typing this. I am sure as wise and being the mover and shaker that you are you are aware of them having access to your computer and are more that likely monitoring in some fashion. food for thought... of course, I already know you are not at work... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 430070 (OP)
5/9/2008 2:36 PM | | Re: advice. am i foolish to take down the managers and GM of my company for internal theft? | Quote |
If your story isn't bs, which I question.... I hope you are not at work today on their computer typing this. I am sure as wise and being the mover and shaker that you are you are aware of them having access to your computer and are more that likely monitoring in some fashion. food for thought... of course, I already know you are not at work... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 366726
Why would I even consider typing this from a work computer?...I had the morning off today for personal reasons, but I will be there until rather late tonight, leaving pretty soon. |
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Rota
User ID: 418784
5/9/2008 2:36 PM
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thats the thing....they already see me as a mover and a shaker, whom people rally behind in times of rough decisions and harsh moments in the company. thats my major issue with this...i'm seen as the outsider who came in, stands out in a "he doesnt fit the mold" type of way, yet performs above and beyond what is expected, and its greatly seen by all..
i'm afraid thats what would be my own demise, if i proceeded. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 430070
Just from what you have said I think if I were you I'd take my time...keep gathering more proof of wrong doing and wait for the right time to out these people. Make sure you make more than one copy and give it to outside friends for safekeeping. What you want to do has to be well planned and not just something you do on the fly. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 373696
5/9/2008 2:40 PM | | Re: advice. am i foolish to take down the managers and GM of my company for internal theft? | Quote |
eh..i'm not about to set someone up for a fall..i'd be brave enough to do it myself, or nothing at all.
we'll see tonight. there seems to be one person there i can trust, whom I shall have to speak with tonight....i'll keep ya posted. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 430070
Well said, maybe you are a mover & shaker.
Good luck with it, & do keep us informed. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 384461
5/9/2008 2:50 PM | | Re: advice. am i foolish to take down the managers and GM of my company for internal theft? | Quote |
No, and put it on about 5000 blogs worldwide, too. |
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Corporate wisdom
User ID: 300370
5/9/2008 3:09 PM | | Re: advice. am i foolish to take down the managers and GM of my company for internal theft? | Quote |
ANONYMOUS
it's the ONLY way if you don't want your life to severely change and / or be blacklisted |
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