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There is no planetary alignment in 2012 says nasa

 
The Monk
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Who come up with the alignment theory,the mayan's didn't say what would happen,i beleive there are earthchanges i can see that but know one really knows what is causing it,i dont think its px either,its more then likely the sun itself.
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The Sun, the Earth and the center of the milky way galaxy line up (Earth in between). Mayans called it the great crossing. Its like the Earth crosses the galactic equator.
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what do you make of this? [link to astrobiology.nasa.gov]
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if you guys think nasa is telling the truth theres something wrong with you.nasa has to lie or there would be chaos all over thats no something you can just tell the world.they know lots,but they keep a lid on it so theirs no riots....
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If catastrophic events DID loom just over the horizon, do you think N.A.S.A would say so 4 years prior to the event?
It would result in the immediate end of society as it is now, with people walking off of jobs, price gouging, profiteering, and in general a chaos which not even the U.S military could control. This would also bring about the end of the governments own 2012 safety preparations as money becomes worthless, and work stops on all of the D.U.M.Bs, and Ark projects.
It is simple, if you wait for the government to officially announce the coming cataclysms you will die, unless one of the lucky few chosen to survive.
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I can dig that explanation WM. Common sense prevails.
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I wonder if this alignment of planets/galactic planes in 2012 allows for the close passage of Nibiru/Wormwood...if everything wasn't lined up correctly, someting might get hit...like a perfect, timely pinball shot?
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Re: There is no planetary alignment in 2012 says nasa
Oh, I don't know...

Inner planet transits during 2012:

In each of these cases the inner planet visibly crosses the Sun's disk viewed from the outer planet, a precise superior conjunction.

Mercury from Jupiter February 26th
Mercury from Saturn March 28th
Venus from Saturn May 6th
Venus from Earth June 6th
Mercury from Saturn June 25th
Venus from Jupiter September 20th
Mercury from Saturn September 22nd
Mercury from Venus December 18th
Venus from Saturn December 21st
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Yeah, Nasa is trying to hide a Planetary alignment. They quit that Astronomy nonsense and are now focusing on Astrology and horoscopes.
Yeah, because as we all know if Venus is several degrees to the West the Sagittarius sign will have bad luck in the love department. Nasa is just trying to protect us all from the love doom...
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Nasa = LIARS



Nasa hide "secrets"
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NASA is funded by either the government(s) and/or private organizations and so it is told what information can be released or disclosed based on their interest. Believe what you want but the Truth is coming.
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we are all going to die..that is all there is to it.....
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we are all going to die..that is all there is to it.....
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Two Dye ??

What color ??

I like a nice shade of red....

Of course we could play Craps with Two Di !!

I rolled an Eleven !! Snake Eyes !!

Double Ones !! TWO !!

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i dont think this is going to happen
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Is it so hard to believe that the Mayans and other cultures who watched the heavens every possible second of the day/night and charted and recorded its happenings didnt figure out what was going on. They would have witnessed everything from sun spots/storms to comets or near earth objects for thousands of years. Is it possible that they built their calendar around such an event.
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I wouldn't believe a damn word NASA speaks
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Re: There is no planetary alignment in 2012 says nasa
DEC 21, 2012 the Winter Solstice Sun will pass directly through the center on the dark rift FACT!

This is not a planetary Alignment!
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OMG! I have been reading these posts and well, Jesus Christ people, if you think in 2D, leave the higher dimensional pondering to the experts. OK, the 25,630 (Gregorian calendar)years is what is coming to an end. The ancient Mayans set their Long Count Calendar which is to the precession of the equinoxes. Imagine the axis being tilted and the Earth rotating around this axis. Also, imagine that this is how we get our seasons. Over time this wobble changes so slowly that the stars in the sky shift. This is ONLY and I repeat ONLY an optical illusion. If you were standing on the moon this entire time, NOTHING would change. Absolutely nothing. This is what makes it seem as if the earth and sun are lining up with the Galactic center. Now if people are referring to the solar system as it makes it's 200 million year revolution around the galactic center while it bobs and weaves up and down across the galactic center. Now this is not the earth and this is something we would not see directly. If this is in fact what people are referring to, that takes place every 33,000 years and happened 3 million years ago so we are actually moving away from the galactic center, in the biggest way. The precession of the equinoxes is the only possible way, and again, just an optical illusion. No "gravitational beam" from the "Center of the galaxy" could harm us. Even if there could be an event, it would be something experienced so slowly over time that only detailed scientific studies could tell a difference. Most things that happen like this are measured in such a small fractional measurment called Planck's laws. Like holding the end of a quarter arms length to the sky and using the width to measure movement of a star over a thousand years. The sun appears to move in front of the galactic center every year on December 21, 2012. It's the winter solstice. Nothing new. Couldnt be a solar flare either, the furthest they can be predicted is from 12 hours to a few days. No polar shift or reversal, because if Planet X or Niburu were real, we'd DEFINITELY see it by now. The earth actually does experience polar shifts at times, but it is just something that is more of an inconvenience. We may end up with a north pole over africa or tahiti but sometimes change can be a good thing. Imagine seeing the northern lights from the beach!. Bottom line is, we'd still have a protective magnetic field so that the "Sun's death rays" wouldn't burn off our atmosphere. Any further questions? [email protected]. I can also site any of this. I've been doing real research for a while. Bout sick of it really, but I'll be more than happy to address anything I may have missed.
Karma /face] 5a
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Oh yeah, and it would be illogical for any Christian to believe they know when the end will be, considering it says in Matthew 24:36 that no one (paraphrasing) will know when the end will be. wtf
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Another thing I needed to respond to was on the first page, there was a so called planetary alignment. This is what I was referring to as a 2D thinker. That picture of the planetary alignment is the equivalent of believing the Earth is the center of the universe... and that it is flat..lol. If you want to see what the planets will look like on 12-21-12, you need to see it in a bird's eye view to get a look at what it will really be like. Keep in mind that there are 93 million miles between the earth and the sun, and MUCH greater distances between the other planets. In astronomical distances, and thinking of astro-physics, it is imperative to think from more than one point of view. Thanks
Karma (astrophysics student for Ph.D.)
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That web address to see the bird's eye view of the planets on 12-21-12 is [link to www.faustweb.net]
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the fact that nasa has a page on these questions and deny them show us even more how theyre scared that people are starting to find out and of course theyre gna say no well durr its nasa they lie about evrything and wouldnt tell you the truth anyway they cover up loads of stuff .
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Anyone want to put up $1000 that we all die??? I bet we don't. lol
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look this is what it is the galactic or planetry allignment isnt suppose to cause havoc to us its just a visual sign or optical view from earth. it means that when it alligns from our point of sight that something will happen and thats what the maya meant by this, they foresaw that this will be a visual sign to bad things and so when the allignment appears they end their calender. i believe because of the weakening magnetosphere and the fact that the next solar maximum is in 2012/2013 and is suppose to be one of the strongest by 50% of all solar cycles that there will be great losses hear on earth. all electricity and comms will be down and the plasma from the bow shock from the flares will release great harmonic frequencies with the surface crust of earth and cause megaQuakes and tsunamis and volcano's. Another thing why have the governments all across the globe built thousands of city sized underground bases since the 1980s... hmm i wonder why. i have thousands of more facts and theories but personally i know you guys will just argue and call BS but i dont care because i will be prepared and you guys will be the one shitting your pants when it comes.
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Ok good, so you'll take my bet? $1000! More if you want. The difference between your facts and my facts is that you find yours from people who state their opinions based on citing someone else who said they have facts. The location we will be in the solar system is exactly where we were a year before, but the rotational view of the planet is slightly different. Simple physics tells you that there is no way that there would be any difference magnetically, So slightly that you cannot tell a difference the year before. The difference is 1/25,630th of a difference. This is why NASA rarely gives it the time of day. They aren't covering anything up, they just know their 3rd grader's could figure it out.
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My real question is, why in the world would anyone WANT it to be the end. That miserable?
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bsflagAs for the planetary, alignment, the true planetary alignment, the closest we've come to a true one that is, was May 5, 2000. Even then, the planets weren't so called "aligned". Not like the diagrams show. It's still a zig zag and if you were to look at them from actual space, the distance between the planets makes it impossible for any danger to result. The diagrams of the solar system we all see, especially the ones in school, are NOT in any way to scale. Not even close. The distance from the galactic center is so far that the gravity would have to be 200 million times greater for even the super massive black hole to cause any trouble. If any of this were to be true, every time we had an eclipse, solar or lunar, mountains would crumble, seas would collapse, the grand canyon would sink, you get my point. I'm sorry to disappoint you, but my research is MINE and I've actually done the math. The numbers are not even close to causing an apocalypse of any kind. Now on a spiritual level, if we were to switch from Astronomy (and astrophysics) to Astrology, then yeah, I think we are moving into a spiritual awakening. The Mayans believed that this precession of the equinoxes caused a change in mankind, nothing worth "shitting our pants" over. It is supposed to be a time from which we change from seeing the sun in 1/12 sector of Pisces and into the era of Aquarius. The Mayans themselves believed it is a time of celebration to make it into the end of a bak'tun, 13 to be exact. Most of the history recorded in the inscriptions took place in bak'tuns 8,9, and 10.We are living today in the last k'atun of bak'tun 13. They combined 3 calendar cycles with an era-based calendar, the Long count. If there would be anyone worried it would be an actual Mayan Elder. Get it strait from one.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

I'm truly sorry to disappoint you, as many of us all need answers as to why we are here. It is our responsibility to be skeptical in everything we hear. Zecharia Sitchen was much like L. Ron Hubbard with his writing: mixing fiction with fact to make things more believable. Hell, I'm guilty of falling for it myself. I decided to find the facts for myself and I'm so grateful I did. Yes, it would be great to know something of why we are here, where we are going, what happens when we die, in something other than just religious text and what our parents tell us, but facts are the only way we are going to find it.... and through immense amounts of patience. If that means we need to balance ourselves on a fence for a while before we make an informed decision, then so be it. That's what we must do. But to jump onto a bandwagon and point fingers at some of the most intelligent people that are only contracted through the government, not a part of it, then that is just like those jr high cliques from school that ganged up on folks just because they were talented, or quiet, or different, or smarter. Its not relevant to finding truth, or self improvement so why waste time on it? Just because 12/21/12 isn't the end doesn't mean it won't ever happen, so it doesn't mean don't be ready. It's just that all these causes aren't it. Why is it there are so many by the way? Has anyone thought of that? It is logical to deduce that it is because none of them are correct, but the real way to find out is to do the research yourself. Not to read others' research. It's counter productive to learning, and even if it takes a while, start somewhere. (Even if it starts with 2+2.) It's well worth it. peace
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WHOOPS. Not and anonymous coward. The previous post is me...KarmaQ
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I invite everyone to think about this tidbit of info. We have zeros every so often as we count, because our counting system is based on the number 10. The Mayans had a different base of twenty. This, coupled with certain astrological lengths of time, causes a coincidental "end date" to a calendar. When this happens for us, we have a millennium, or a century, or a decade. For them, they have a K'atun, or a haab, or a tzolk'in. I know it looks like I just totally spazzed out on my keyboard, but honestly it's the name of some of their calendars. They were based on dates that were used to time markets and fairs in transaction. Anyway, much as our calendar doesn't 'end' on January 1, 2000, and your car doesn't stop working when the odometer reaches 100,000, (provided it has been taken care of) then the same as the world will not end as the Mayan Long Count Calendar reaches it's "New Year". Superstition and wanting to find meaning in things that aren't there has fueled this charade. That along Hollywood and the media feeling the need to cash in. Also, don't trust the History Channel anymore. They are no longer worried about history, only about ratings. They are still entertaining, just not factual.
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Re: There is no planetary alignment in 2012 says nasa
what do you make of this? [link to astrobiology.nasa.gov]
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Nothing.

I don't listen to *anything* NASA says. Period. If they made an announcement that the sky was blue, I'd go outside and check for myself.

Let's face it -- They are a mouthpiece for the National Security State and will do and say whatever they are told to do and say.

NASA = Bullshit.
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Re: There is no planetary alignment in 2012 says nasa
Actually there is..

I used a program called Stellarium and found that the planets Mercury, Venus, Mars, Saturn, Neptune and Pluto will all be aligned in the sky on Dec. 21st 2012. Below is a screenshot:

[link to www.freewebs.com]
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You could check please?
[link to www.fourmilab.ch]
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we are all going to die..that is all there is to it.....
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Perhaps the best would be to delete the date of December 21, 2012
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Re: There is no planetary alignment in 2012 says nasa
Actually there is..

I used a program called Stellarium and found that the planets Mercury, Venus, Mars, Saturn, Neptune and Pluto will all be aligned in the sky on Dec. 21st 2012. Below is a screenshot:

[link to www.freewebs.com]


You could check please?
[link to www.fourmilab.ch]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 962073


Yes, I replied to that the other day, in which I said you must have a bird's eye view in order to get proper perspective. That's just physics. Again, an illusion is taking place that there is an alignment, by looking at it from the ground. Nothing is actually happening. No alignment I mean. It's the same thing as believing the universe revolves around the Earth. Also, look at the actual order to which they seem to line up in your screen shot. Saturn is on bottom, and that is much further away than Venus which is the next in line. Then Mercury, which is close to the sun, and son on til Pluto. Keep in mind, this is perpendicular to the earth, so you cannot say it's lining up with the earth. There cannot be ANY gravitational forces or anything.

Here is my screenshot. [link to tinypic.com]
To check it out yourself and punch in the date, (keep in mind that the date comes first, then the month and year. )
[link to www.faustweb.net]
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