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I have the solution to the Health Care Crisis

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Anonymous Coward
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5/12/2008 5:49 PM
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Instead of forcing all of us into an already broken system, we should expand the system to include alternative medicine including Chinese medicine, acupuncture, chiropractic, naturopathic, nutritional and therapeutic massage. This way you would relieve the pressure on traditional, allopathic providers and prices would fall because of less demand and more competition for the insurance dollars. Pharmaceutical companies would be competing against compound pharmacies and herbal remedies which would also produce lower prices and, most definitely, better outcomes for patients.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 419054 (OP)
5/12/2008 8:14 PM
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...and no one cares.
Rota
User ID: 431612
5/12/2008 8:30 PM
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Actually to fix the system is simple. Get rid of the AMA. Right now the only people who can become doctors are people that can afford 10 years of schooling after they get their college degrees. This is totaly rediculous because all doctors are today are drug pushers. Very few operate on people. They are specialists and need plenty of schooling. Not the general doctors.

Allow doctors to beome doctors with less BS expensive education. They will not do it because they want to control the number of doctors so they can charge outrageous prices. No reason to have more competition so the prices can become cheaper.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 392987
5/12/2008 8:31 PM
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I have a better choice: Don't get sick or die.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 410595
5/12/2008 9:07 PM
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The reason medical costs are so high is because there is no feedback from the patient to the doctor and hospitals about how expensive everything is. It's all disguised by the middle man - the insurance companies. The doctors/hospitals raises their fees to as much as they can get from the insurance, while their front office clerks, say to the patients "Don't worry about it - We'll bill your insurance." Then the federal laws say they can't charge anyone less than they charge anyone else. So because they want as much as they can get from insurance, they are forced to charge a person without insurance the same amount, an embarrassing huge fee that none of their patients would stand for if they couldn't say 'just bill my insurance'.
I hope alternative medicine stays out of the insurance mess because they are still affordable as long as our insurance doesn't cover it. Once insurance covers them, their prices will also go sky high, and the person who doesn't have insurance won't be able to afford them either.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 429245
5/12/2008 9:08 PM
Re: I have the solution to the Health Care CrisisQuote

Instead of forcing all of us into an already broken system, we should expand the system to include alternative medicine including Chinese medicine, acupuncture, chiropractic, naturopathic, nutritional and therapeutic massage. This way you would relieve the pressure on traditional, allopathic providers and prices would fall because of less demand and more competition for the insurance dollars. Pharmaceutical companies would be competing against compound pharmacies and herbal remedies which would also produce lower prices and, most definitely, better outcomes for patients.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 419054


I agree, OP.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 324511
5/12/2008 9:24 PM
Re: I have the solution to the Health Care CrisisQuote

Instead of forcing all of us into an already broken system, we should expand the system to include alternative medicine including Chinese medicine, acupuncture, chiropractic, naturopathic, nutritional and therapeutic massage. This way you would relieve the pressure on traditional, allopathic providers and prices would fall because of less demand and more competition for the insurance dollars. Pharmaceutical companies would be competing against compound pharmacies and herbal remedies which would also produce lower prices and, most definitely, better outcomes for patients.


I agree, OP.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 429245


You need to cut the evil middle man out, first and foremost, which is the corrupted health insurances companies...they do nothing more than launder money...which is a worthless middle man that skims profits off the system...funny how all the shithead candidates for president want universal coverage by these scum sucking leaches.....
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 283256
5/12/2008 10:08 PM
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According to the World Health Organization we are number one in costs and 32nd or worse in quality. Many other nations have resolved their healthcare problems without resorting to full blown 'socialized' medicine which by the way doesn't really exist-the well to do will ALWAYS have their private insurance.
As for training yeah they are all trained ONLY for legal drug pushing and not really healing or curing. That is why its called healt 'mainteanace' because your 'symptoms' are treated and 'maintained' under control only through expensive 'daily' pharmaceuticals which are becoming more and more proven to be at the best placebos and the worst contributing to deaths. You have all been scammed, same with prescription drug pricing. The excuses do not hold up under scrutiny yet the CONgress has all been bought off and the FDA (Federal Death Association) and the AMA (American Mortality Association) are the ones who rule healthcare much as the Federal Reserve controls all banking. You have no choice BUT to comply and use the system offered because there is NO alternative.
I personally have spent 5 years to get a diagnosis for TMJ syndrome that is so painful I think suicide hourly. Not only do drs say its not that bad or think its depression but after quite literally BEGGING for pain relief I finally had no choice but to turn to the street- for neurontin. So 5 years, nearly 10 doctors and over $10K out of pocket, losing everything including my retirement THEN I finally get a diagnosis that covers the symptoms and pain. Too bad I cannot afford the $4K MRI and $5K surgery to get me back in the workforce. I am down to my last 100.00 with over 1700.00 in hospital costs for testing that they did twice!
In other words the system just wants you to kill yourself, I am just debating who out of the 10 or so doctors deserves to share the honor with me.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 432193
5/12/2008 10:33 PM
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They give us the diseases in the vaccines then charge as much as possible for treatments that only address the symptoms not the root cause.

The doctors have to do treatments by the book. Any Doc who finds a cure is harassed out of the profession.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 430200
5/12/2008 10:43 PM
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Good idea..

Doctors don't cure shit.

They just look at you and say "I don't know"
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 412873
5/12/2008 10:50 PM
Re: I have the solution to the Health Care CrisisQuote

Instead of forcing all of us into an already broken system, we should expand the system to include alternative medicine including Chinese medicine, acupuncture, chiropractic, naturopathic, nutritional and therapeutic massage. This way you would relieve the pressure on traditional, allopathic providers and prices would fall because of less demand and more competition for the insurance dollars. Pharmaceutical companies would be competing against compound pharmacies and herbal remedies which would also produce lower prices and, most definitely, better outcomes for patients.


I agree, OP.


You need to cut the evil middle man out, first and foremost, which is the corrupted health insurances companies...they do nothing more than launder money...which is a worthless middle man that skims profits off the system...funny how all the shithead candidates for president want universal coverage by these scum sucking leaches.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 324511



Yes insruances MUST get out of the health business. They are killing millions of people ...by deciding IF they will be coverend and for what, and thos einsurance agents do not have a license to practice medicine yet they get away with their own diagnosis.

Complimentary therapies can be included and as a therapist I have been reinbursed by many compaines... but it is a nightmare and Maybe youwill get paid, and maybe the full price, but also they will deny a client they never see in their office nor have reason to deny.I had way too many people who were severly mistreated by their insurance and WHILE THEY WERE SICK, TOO. This is the most aweful time to be argueing with sick people!
The insurance is like a vampire sucking the life force out of all who have insurance.

I have not had helath insurance for over 20 years. I never will play that game of russian rulette!

and on top of that I am very outspoken everyhwere I go for health procedures so that everyone ion the room can here me roar about the injustice the insruance agencies serve to the ill.

I say KILL THE SYSTEM

I was on an island and heard how much people had to pay for insurance, and so I used those figures to calcualte a total amount spent yearly.(not a real figure but an estimated one) With the total for one year of all residents, they could have built five hospitals ..paid for in one year. The second year they could guarenttee the wages of all employess for 10 years... so if people would invest directly in to the health systems they use, we would have minimal payments compared to what people pay today and maybe free.

Insurance is all just gangster mentality.... pay us insurance if you want to stay healthy
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