The US is a specialist in keeping their dollars outside of the US.
They import lots of things with dollars that actually not exist.
Beware of China > their government collects all of the incoming dollars, if they want they can release them at once to take the dollar out.
That’s also one of the reasons the USA attacked Irak > to prevent them from switching over to the euro (the money involved in one of the biggest oil reserves in the world). This to prevent the dollar from losing is value.
Anyway it wont take long before the US financial system collapses.
The banks create money by loaning to/by each other.
And to continue the second to last post (by me), considering the inflation/deflation and trends, I really can't emphasize strongly enough how beneficial such investments should turn out. Right now unemployments going up, cost of living is going up, pay rates are going down, job security going down, entire industries are crumbling. While what money you have sits in the bank devaluing, all the while there's less of that currency in your account each day.
Look at history, keep up on real news, determine trends and plot futures, or - be a statistic. This isn't a situation of chaos, it's orderly, and predictable.
How many here have investments by the way? AIM:kits56fa2
Clearing the path for the Amero, indeed. Of course, for those that need a sign, this would seem to make an excellent "7"th sign, with the nice level pattern, and sudden drop into the abyss.
As these are just borrowings to keep the banks in line with legal requirements, it seems to me the day is near when they'll be hanging bankers and the like, in pleasant public gatherings... Be offended. It's my gift to you.
For a few seconds, it means you're awake...
Savings accounts, for most Americans, either do not exist or are simply holding pens for everything they have left. For most, once debts are subtracted, have nothing.
We are living amidst the greatest scam in the world: credit-based economics.
This has now become the prototype for bank behavior, as well as most countries.
In other words, at some time in the near future, everything you think you know about everything is going to disappear.
But don't worry, THEY got you covered. THEY have a bigger better system ready to implement.
~BriZz~ goddess of w1ck3d User ID: 422951 5/14/2008 11:12 AM
so do we get all our money out now? will we lose it all? what about IRA's???
Quoting: ~BriZz~
The only thing to do is remain calm. This country is a domino that capitulates all on its fall, and it is crystal clear that all know this by now, with a few rogue exceptions that it... Iran being chief, but I see Saudi Arabia who is among the knowledgeable, sent Iran a sharp warning over Lebanon Tuesday, saying Tehran's support for Hezbollah will damage its relations with other Muslim and Arab countries.
The dollar is no more a joke than any other currency considering it is the standard by which all others are measured...
If the Dollar where to fall it undoubtedly would have happened by know, but there have been too many behind close door meetings by the elite in this world to allow that to happen, considering they have all come to the conclusion to the horror that would befall the world not to mention the elite rich if that where to happen.
Money is an illusion at this point aimed to keep the world in check to those who have divided and conquered it. The concept that something like the dollar being able to purchase something of actual value still bewilders me to no end, but as long as those who are in authority say it is so, then sobeit, I will go and buy till my hearts content.
With all the conspiracy theories out there, the greatest of all is the fact that the dollar is actually worth what those who are in power all over the world say it is. This reality alone ought to make those who think that having tangible standards makes a hoot in a world where the standard is illusion...
The elite rich have found a way to allow the poor to keep on fighting their wars and working so they wont have too, they know there is no way in hell they can get away it as long as they use true standards of determining the value of money, especially when they are squandering it like no tomorrow to fight the wars that are aimed at doing nothing more than keeping the populations at bay so they can get away with taking more of their share…
The elite are nothing more than the head of the dragon that is the circle of life in this world feeding on itself in the name of survival. The competition of the game of life, being played by the elite in this world is getting heated, this is evident by the number of people being allowed to die on a daily basis, when in reality the elite have power to stop it, but why should they when the living will only compromise that rate of their prophets?
Considering it is not worth a crap anyhow, your safest bet is not to get your money out, but rather invest it in what ever the filthy rich are using to stay rich. They are the ones in command of the ship, and if you don;t want to find yourself being eaten at the tail then I suggest you start buying into what ever they are with your money...
Anonymous Coward User ID: 367687 5/14/2008 1:00 PM
not sure i quite get what the chart is point at. But it dont look good for banks and the well to do..or us for that matter down the road. I suppose we will just continue to borrow from china and other nations and dig ourselves deeper, or the fed will just pull funny money out of thin air to buffer this.
OR they could just raise taxes 80% for 5 years and see what that does..and I know for a fact that is exactly what the dems will do. Hillary speaks of 39.9% tax rate, which is about what we had with bill. It will take something more in the hood of 70% tax to fix this mess of debt across the board...70% tax rate=unhappy peon's
Anonymous Coward User ID: 431488 5/14/2008 1:56 PM
You gotta be crazy, you gotta have a real need.
You gotta sleep on your toes, and when you're on the street,
You gotta be able to pick out the easy meat with your eyes closed.
And then moving in silently, down wind and out of sight,
You gotta strike when the moment is right without thinking.
And after a while, you can work on points for style.
Like the club tie, and the firm handshake,
A certain look in the eye and an easy smile.
You have to be trusted by the people that you lie to,
So that when they turn their backs on you,
You'll get the chance to put the knife in.
You gotta keep one eye looking over your shoulder.
You know it's going to get harder, and harder, and harder as you
get older.
And in the end you'll pack up and fly down south,
Hide your head in the sand,
Just another sad old man,
All alone and dying of cancer.
And when you loose control, you'll reap the harvest you have sown.
And as the fear grows, the bad blood slows and turns to stone.
And it's too late to lose the weight you used to need to throw
around.
So have a good drown, as you go down, all alone,
Dragged down by the stone.
I gotta admit that I'm a little bit confused.
Sometimes it seems to me as if I'm just being used.
Gotta stay awake, gotta try and shake off this creeping malaise.
If I don't stand my own ground, how can I find my way out of this
maze?
Deaf, dumb, and blind, you just keep on pretending
That everyone's expendable and no-one has a real friend.
And it seems to you the thing to do would be to isolate the winner
And everything's done under the sun,
And you believe at heart, everyone's a killer.
Who was born in a house full of pain.
Who was trained not to spit in the fan.
Who was told what to do by the man.
Who was broken by trained personnel.
Who was fitted with collar and chain.
Who was given a pat on the back.
Who was breaking away from the pack.
Who was only a stranger at home.
Who was ground down in the end.
Who was found dead on the phone.
Who was dragged down by the stone.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 385176 5/14/2008 2:15 PM
All right, people. Let's not mince words. These banks are controlled and owned by Jews. I'm not even a bible thumper, but fucking A, these are the money changers that Jesus threw out of the temple! These Satanic mutherfuckers have a stranglehold on the entire planet. It does get anymore evil than this. And, no, not all Jews are in on it, but to be in the inner circles you MUST be a Jew. This is a Rothschild nightmare production. Aren't you ever blown away by watching CNBC and how every fucking one these people are Jews? If I were Jewish, I would hate this. Can you imagine if all of these banksters were Muslims?! The west would be up in arms.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 433036 5/14/2008 2:20 PM
Correct me if I am wrong, but many institutions take what little deposit money they kept in reserve and "reinvested" it for profit for the bank. They may have hedged their "investments" with that money meaning they may have only put up 10% on a 100% liability. Then some had to report last November, according to a new accounting rule, what their investments were worth. Turns out, there was no market for what they invested in in many cases, so their investment had to be listed as worthless or worth nothing at that time. It happened so many times in so many investments, this is why many are "writing off" billions in "assets". They took the depositiors money in many cases and invested in deratives nd hedged themselve broke with what money they had. Now they have to borrow money from the Fed to stay "solvent". They give these worthless financial instruments to the Fed in exchange for treasury certificates and probably are cashing them in and hedging again with that borrowed money.
Ok...the other thread with the charts and this thread are a bit confusing to me....
I need these explained in "idiot" terms.
Banks are borrowing money because why? What happened to all the money they receive via deposits etc? I know they invest that money and live on interest...so the fact that they are borrowing means they've lost their (OUR) initiial investments in a big way....
kinda like in that movie "It's A Wonderful Life" right?
SO what does this mean for us? That like in the movie, if we all demand our money, they won't be able to provide? Will we then lose everything we have in our banks?
Quoting: Sireen-reborn
Anonymous Coward User ID: 433036 5/14/2008 2:28 PM
If you are banking with an FDIC insured bank and do not have more then $100,000 in the bank (I wish!), then you are ok but might have to wait for any money should a number of banks fail.
However, there are many good banks that have not invested like the losers have. One of my banks in my town do not have any money invested in deratives. Any bank could be hit by a run on it, but at least they won't have caused it.
``There is no relationship between non-borrowed reserves and anything the Fed cares about, be it inflation, employment or real GDP,'' said Paul Kasriel, chief economist at the Northern Trust Corp. in Chicago.
He said that 20 years ago, when I was just starting out, but I still remember his exact words. They came back to me when I learned of the latest obsession with this irrelevant statistic.
Consider the source. Caroline also denies the existance of the PPT and Wall Street Market manipulation.
Drink the Kool-Aid if you want, but Baum is clearly a Wall Street shill.
If -90$ Billion in non-borrowed reserves is "not a problem" then why, in the history of this indicator has it never even dipped into the negative?
Use common sense here. This is an historic event without precident and ignore the warnings to your own financial peril.
BTW, OP, great post.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 429601
exactly.
with the house of economic cards crashing more quickly....
two possible scenarios.
hyperinflation, rioting, looting, impossible to control.
or
false flag event, (shock and awe), martial law,controlled system.
can you guess which one it will be?
Anonymous Coward User ID: 401648 5/14/2008 7:30 PM
I don't know if this fits in, but for the first time in a very long time, I listened to a program on TBN called "God's News". The only reason it caught my attention is because, at last, a preacher is calling attention to the politics of world affairs, starting with the plan to unite Europe, which happened in the European Union, with the Euro as its currency. He moved on to what is happening this side of the pond.
We have heard of the Amero as the coming currency. The plan to unite Canada, the U.S., and Mexico is far into completion. We will be one big happy family under the new name, "Canamerico", with a new currency, the Amero, with a new flag.
Maybe, just maybe, some of our preachers are growing balls. This one laid it out in spades as to what is taking place in this country. He is not a happy camper.
.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 432661
Correction on your part. It's not "Canamerico" its going to be called the North American Union or NAU. You better get on board, ~~~IT'S EVOLUTION BABY!~~~~
Just think when the day comes whene people finally consider themselves Citizens of Earth.
also consider that food must come first before family!
to support that same family, grow as much 'food' in your backyard
money is just a tribute to the lion, except feeding the lion 'money' is expensive but it is far cheaper then feeding the lion 'food or family'!!
Putting a '$' value to 'food and family' is very disrespectful!
governments are run for the people by the people (or should!)
freedom means the right to 'support your family' which is the root of happiness!
I thought the fed charts we're toppled back in Jan!
Looks like I was correct, what this actually means is your wealth is now based on your true assets, NOT the 'much reduced $ value'...
So 'we are all richer' if all refuse to sell to the highest bidder, 'because it is not for sale'!!!
"food" is the only true 'currency', americans should have the god granted right to feed themselves, may the sun and rain be adequate to produce a harvest!!!
"the harvest holds the 'lights for their needs'!!!", twelvetomato
When the system goes into reserve deficit it is because on aggregate the entire system has lost all of its depositor's base funds!"
Quoting: me 418631
Anonymous Coward User ID: 430047 5/14/2008 11:08 PM
I don't know if this fits in, but for the first time in a very long time, I listened to a program on TBN called "God's News". The only reason it caught my attention is because, at last, a preacher is calling attention to the politics of world affairs, starting with the plan to unite Europe, which happened in the European Union, with the Euro as its currency. He moved on to what is happening this side of the pond.
We have heard of the Amero as the coming currency. The plan to unite Canada, the U.S., and Mexico is far into completion. We will be one big happy family under the new name, "Canamerico", with a new currency, the Amero, with a new flag.
Maybe, just maybe, some of our preachers are growing balls. This one laid it out in spades as to what is taking place in this country. He is not a happy camper.
.
Correction on your part. It's not "Canamerico" its going to be called the North American Union or NAU. You better get on board, ~~~IT'S EVOLUTION BABY!~~~~
Just think when the day comes whene people finally consider themselves Citizens of Earth.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 403345
Think i just threw up in my mouth a little in regard to your socialist statement... I dont have a fucking attitude,you stupid motherfucker
ALL branches of the US military is stretched thin over and beyond foreign shores.
The NATIONAL GUARD--"citizen soldiers"--are backfilling and frontlining, leaving the homeland to? . . . .
Diesel and gasoline are available but continue to increase in price daily if not two, three, four times a day. . . .
"FOOD SHORTAGES" and "voluntary rationing" have taken place in the past few weeks. . . . A trial balloon to judge impact and "public" response? Perhaps.
Hints and whispers about an impending gun grab, post-election. . . .
Never mind the recent rash of natural diasters both at home and abroad. . . .
Never mind the VERY reccent rumblings, thrusts and feints in the Middle East. . . .
Now this latest reality check from the FED. . . .
Oh, and just today Obummer gets the Hairboy's blessing. The Dem ticket? . . .
PERFECT FREAKIN STORM.
Oh S#it.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 433308 5/15/2008 1:48 AM
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