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HOW DARE ANYONE KILL IN GODS NAME !!!!!

 
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HOW DARE ANYONE KILL IN GODS NAME !!!!!
How dare anyone use the name of God as an excuse as a justification to kill or torture. How dare anyone hide behind religion in order to carry out their atrocities.
How dare anyone associate the word gun with the word God.

How many poeple have been murdered using religion as an excuse?
How many times has Gods name been used in vain to justify these actions that are an abomination in his eyes?

Too many.

If you do this either by words or by actions , if you as much as justify this your soul will rot in hell.
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Ask the people of Jericho, moron.
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OH, i guess it is only okay if your Muslim.
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Tell that to John Calvin, whom had Micheal Servetus, a man not agreeing with his theology, and a Unitarian of the same basic religion, burnt at the stake for his opinions.


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OH, i guess it is only okay if your Muslim.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 367820

It isnt Ok if you are a muslim ,a christian ,a jew or any denomination or variation.
No matter who you are or how good you think you are or how much you may convince yourself that you are if you do you are doomed. Your soul is doomed forever.
So get that into your thick skull. Understand once and for all that God is against all of that. He is Love. An energy that is Love.
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So I guess Pope Innocent the III and John Calvin are most certainly in hell eh?
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Professing love for the almighty wont save you. Scripture quoting wont save you. Bible bashing wont save you. Screeching that you are the chosen and Gods very special item wont save you .What you do to others you do to God. God is in everything and everyone.
DOOMED for all eternity.
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So I guess Pope Innocent the III and John Calvin are most certainly in hell eh?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 432812

If they killed or ordered the killing or justified the killing of one single person then they probably are and you can bet they are not alone.
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05/14/2008 04:42 PM
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Yep, Pope Innocent killed thousands...
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it sounds better than say, boogyman.
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Professing love for the almighty wont save you. Scripture quoting wont save you. Bible bashing wont save you. Screeching that you are the chosen and Gods very special item wont save you .What you do to others you do to God. God is in everything and everyone.
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Drama & theatricals aside, the above statement makes good sense...
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Yep, Pope Innocent killed thousands...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 432812

Dont try your spin on me.
This is not only about Christians or Popes this includes everyone.
No one is excempt from this universal law,especially those that have had the gift of Gods teachings taught them.
It doesnt distinguish creed or race or gender or social position.
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Now consider the Old Testament, large parts of it. Something isnt right is it?
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Drama & theatricals aside, the above statement makes good sense...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 426789


Sorry meant theatrics...
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The OT is full of calls for genocide. Nothing much has changed as people still scream for genociding 'others".
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The OT is full of calls for genocide. Nothing much has changed as people still scream for genociding 'others".
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They should stop pretending that God is with them then, because he isnt he is against them.
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That there is religious conflict only proves scripture all the more, especially the part about false Christianity.
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How dare anyone use the name of God as an excuse as a justification to kill or torture. How dare anyone hide behind religion in order to carry out their atrocities.
How dare anyone associate the word gun with the word God.

How many poeple have been murdered using religion as an excuse?
How many times has Gods name been used in vain to justify these actions that are an abomination in his eyes?

Too many.

If you do this either by words or by actions , if you as much as justify this your soul will rot in hell.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 433013

David killed Goliath an God called him a man after his own heart.God told the prophet Samuel to kill Agag after King Saul wouldnt do it.And Samuel said,as thou hast made women in Israel childless,today your mother will be childless also.And he cut him to peieces lol.Elijah called down fire on the enemies of God an cut 100's of false prophets throats chop chop.Sampson killed thousands of philistines....
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How dare anyone use the name of God as an excuse as a justification to kill or torture. How dare anyone hide behind religion in order to carry out their atrocities.
How dare anyone associate the word gun with the word God.

How many poeple have been murdered using religion as an excuse?
How many times has Gods name been used in vain to justify these actions that are an abomination in his eyes?

Too many.

If you do this either by words or by actions , if you as much as justify this your soul will rot in hell.

David killed Goliath an God called him a man after his own heart.God told the prophet Samuel to kill Agag after King Saul wouldnt do it.And Samuel said,as thou hast made women in Israel childless,today your mother will be childless also.And he cut him to peieces lol.Elijah called down fire on the enemies of God an cut 100's of false prophets throats chop chop.Sampson killed thousands of philistines....
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That reminds me of the movie "True Lies" where Jamie Lee Curtis' character asks her husband, played by Swartzenegger, if He ever killed anyone? He being under the influence of a truth serum said; "Yeah, but they were all bad!!!" In the Old Testament Conflict and battles were a part of trying to establish a Nation of Nomadic people. All of the Nations that God ordered them to go into and take their land were evil, Child sacrificing Devil worshippers, who were a scourge to the land that they dwelt upon. There is a big difference between justice and murder, and killing for justice, to be a deterrent to evil is justified.
"Glory is what happens when faith overcomes adversity."
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How dare anyone use the name of God as an excuse as a justification to kill or torture. How dare anyone hide behind religion in order to carry out their atrocities.
How dare anyone associate the word gun with the word God.

How many poeple have been murdered using religion as an excuse?
How many times has Gods name been used in vain to justify these actions that are an abomination in his eyes?

Too many.

If you do this either by words or by actions , if you as much as justify this your soul will rot in hell.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 433013


So you're saying Joshua should have disobeyed God? Who are you to say God didn't tell someone to kill for him?
Read the Bible for pete's sake.
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"They" are supposed to be out arresting the warmongers this week...what are they doing??

Sitting on their hands or what?
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That reminds me of the movie "True Lies" where Jamie Lee Curtis' character asks her husband, played by Swartzenegger, if He ever killed anyone? He being under the influence of a truth serum said; "Yeah, but they were all bad!!!" In the Old Testament Conflict and battles were a part of trying to establish a Nation of Nomadic people. All of the Nations that God ordered them to go into and take their land were evil, Child sacrificing Devil worshippers, who were a scourge to the land that they dwelt upon. There is a big difference between justice and murder, and killing for justice, to be a deterrent to evil is justified.
 Quoting: Wingedlion


This reminds me of a chapter in Oahspe:
"We have not such mercy and forgiveness as becometh Gods. Therefore, give us rough work to do."
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How dare anyone use the name of God as an excuse as a justification to kill or torture. How dare anyone hide behind religion in order to carry out their atrocities.
How dare anyone associate the word gun with the word God.

How many poeple have been murdered using religion as an excuse?
How many times has Gods name been used in vain to justify these actions that are an abomination in his eyes?

Too many.

If you do this either by words or by actions , if you as much as justify this your soul will rot in hell.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 433013



OP

It's the "rot in hell" bit that give ANYONE who wants to use that tool as the justification to kill in the name of god/God.

maybe you should revise your statement.

disassemble fear and you are left with WHAT JUSTIFICATION to murder?

hmmmmmmmmmmmm
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The killing will not stop as long as men believe the ultimate blasphemy: that certain self-proclaimed prophets have been ordained to speak for God. Lost to the sheep who blindly follow their own selected shepherd - usually the first shepherd they meet - is that none of these self-proclaimed spokespersons has presented any proof as to why they should be believed. Abandoning any attachment to logic and reason, these desperate and gullible throngs passionately believe that mere printed pages of doctrine are the inspired inerrant word of God. The fact that the printed pages are rife with historical and scientific errors and riddled with countless self-contradictions, is no obstacle to the believer.

Unfortunately men do very stupid things, and very brutal things, when they are motivated by their concept of God's will. Reduced to simple terms, men will kill because their inspired inerrant word of God, be it the Qu’ran or one of the many versions of the Christian Bible, tell them to. I draw your attention to how the Qu’ran tells its followers to treat nonbelievers (non-Muslims):

“They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.”
- Qu’ran 4:89

“So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.”
- Qu’ran 9:5


And now, it is time to reveal how Christians are supposed to treat those who do not share their beliefs:

“If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;

Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.

And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. And all Israel shall hear, and fear, and shall do no more any such wickedness as this is among you.”
- Deuteronomy 13:6-11

The perfect plan to achieve and maintain enormous power is this: (1) Convince the masses that you are God’s spokesperson, and they must obey you or face eternal damnation; (2) include in your doctrine a provision that your followers must share their wealth with you; and (3) eliminate your opposition by convincing your followers to kill those who don‘t believe you are God's sole spokesperson. Judged by these standards, the Qu’ran and the various Christian Bibles are marvels of successful merchandising.

Once a person is ensnared in the grip of mental manipulation, escape is difficult. The religious convert surrenders his intellectual freedom, abandoning logic and reason in the process: The Qu’ran is true because the Qu’ran says it is true, or the KJV is true because the KJV says it is true. Organized religion thrives on blind unchallenged submission. In no other area of thought or inquiry would such nonsense be tolerated.

Let the killings resume, for God has spoken.
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How dare anyone use the name of God as an excuse as a justification to kill or torture. How dare anyone hide behind religion in order to carry out their atrocities.
How dare anyone associate the word gun with the word God.

How many poeple have been murdered using religion as an excuse?
How many times has Gods name been used in vain to justify these actions that are an abomination in his eyes?

Too many.

If you do this either by words or by actions , if you as much as justify this your soul will rot in hell.

David killed Goliath an God called him a man after his own heart.God told the prophet Samuel to kill Agag after King Saul wouldnt do it.And Samuel said,as thou hast made women in Israel childless,today your mother will be childless also.And he cut him to peieces lol.Elijah called down fire on the enemies of God an cut 100's of false prophets throats chop chop.Sampson killed thousands of philistines....



That reminds me of the movie "True Lies" where Jamie Lee Curtis' character asks her husband, played by Swartzenegger, if He ever killed anyone? He being under the influence of a truth serum said; "Yeah, but they were all bad!!!" In the Old Testament Conflict and battles were a part of trying to establish a Nation of Nomadic people. All of the Nations that God ordered them to go into and take their land were evil, Child sacrificing Devil worshippers, who were a scourge to the land that they dwelt upon. There is a big difference between justice and murder, and killing for justice, to be a deterrent to evil is justified.
 Quoting: Wingedlion


The true God does not order genocide.
Because of the imo blatant lies of the OT some people feel justified in killing and butchering others.
And remember the ones that kill almost always refer to the others they kill as the bad ones, or the evil ones.
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As the sixth seal has been opened, it would appear that Jesus is about to be a naughty naughty boy in God's name when he destroys Babylon the great.



16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:



Revelation 6

1And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.

2And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

3And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.

4And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.

5And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.

6And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

7And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.

8And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

9And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

10And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

11And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

12And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

13And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

14And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

15And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

16And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

17For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
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I'm not going to watch it unless you give an
accurate description of the video.

So FU.
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Its time to wake up to the truth. The only path is love and forgiveness.
If you kill or justify it you are condemning your soul to eternity. To an existence where there is no goodnes no light no love no mercy no compassion , just undiluted EVIL and SUFFERING. And it lasts for ever.
Wether you are a rabbi or a priest, wether you are a begger or a Pope, wether you know your scriptures or not you loose your soul.
Get that into your head, stop finding excuses, stop being in denial. This applies to all religions, to everyone.

You think this reality is all there is? There are others and other dimensions. There is a dimension devoid of goodness where evil lives. A dimension where souls that are unfit to be in the presence of God are sent to all eternity because they belong to the other. That place has been called hell. Its real.

Many enjoy this existence and eat and drink and party while they kill and torture. No justice seems to come to them, but this existence is not even a second in the vastness of other existences and dimensions.

This existence is a school where we are supposed to perfect our soul and learn through reincarnations. This is a school where we are supposed to advance along the path of spirituality to ascend and gain that Eden that used to be here , the Eden that is his kingdom and that is to come again.

The time of reincarnations is at an end now because we are at the end of Time. Literally. This school that we have been through, school trapped by lower vibrations , is about to end and be transformed into the higher vibrational kingdom of God on earth.

In this kingdom only those that are love will be allowed.

There is no rapture as is perceived.

The only so called rapture will be bacause those that arent of the light will be taken, they will not be here anymore.

So to all those that read this, to the rich and powerful and to those that are humble, remember to love, to change your ways because there is a judgment coming.

If you kill or if you consider it justifiable to do so do not expect to be part of the future of this planet because your soul will be banished.
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Elijah called down fire on the enemies of God an cut 100's of false prophets throats chop chop.Sampson killed thousands of philistines....





What a waste of good fire. It was 450 false prophets from memory. Elijah had a few hours to kill, no pun intended.


Elijah is back here now for the end times and he hates apostate Israel.
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bump for those in denial.

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