Please explain what the U.S had to do with creating the state of Israel? I thought the U.K/Europe were the main instigators of that project, so why was America the primary target for the biggest terror attack on the west?
bilthy Darklord of Light User ID: 165856 5/16/2008 6:29 PM
Going along with that thought, just how does the CIA/MOSSAD recruit suicide bombers? What's the incentives that they give.
Quoting: G. House
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The story was released by CBS, who is part of the PBC (propaganda bitch companys). That would make me wonder of the validity of the "source". Once you've eliminated fear and darkness, there's only love and light!
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Please explain what the U.S had to do with creating the state of Israel? I thought the U.K/Europe were the main instigators of that project, so why was America the primary target for the biggest terror attack on the west?
Quoting: Matrix 431104
Explain to me why Isreal bombed the USS Liberty for three hours and our support planes were called back to their aircraft carriers and not allowed to protect it by Johnson. McCain's father looked into it an called it an ACCIDENT.... Unbelieveable.
We are fools, and will continue to be fools if we keep falling for their games. Bomb it and blame it on someone else until you get caught then call it an accident. If a lie becomes a truth after so many years it is a McCainism
How many times are TPTB gonna resurrect bin Laden?
Quoting: Redheaded Stepchild
WHY DO YOU THINK OBL IS DEAD?
ANY PROOF TO YOUR COMMENT? From his Audacity of Hope; "Hi, I'm Barack Hussein Obama" "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 409230 5/16/2008 7:39 PM
(CBS/AP) Al Qaeda's media operation has released a new audio message on the Internet from Osama bin Laden, dealing primarily with Israel and the Palestinians on the 60th anniversary of Israel's creation.
The message, downloaded by CBS News from the prominent jihadist Web forum El Ekhlas, did not include any new images of the al Qaeda chief.
The 9:40-minute audio by bin Laden showed an old photo of his face over a brown graphic and included the title, "A Message to the Peoples of the West: From Sheik Osama bin Laden," with the subheading: “The Reasons for the Struggle on the 60th Anniversary of the Creation of the Occupation State of Israel.”
Bin Laden began his message by telling listeners that the Palestinian-Israeli conflict has always been the primary cause for friction between the West and the Muslim world - a struggle which he said was getting more difficult due to European policies biased in Israel's favor.
"The Palestinian cause has been the main factor that, since my early childhood, fueled my desire, and that of the 19 freemen (Sept. 11 bombers), to stand by the oppressed, and punish the oppressive Jews and their allies," the al Qaeda chief said.
"We shall continue the fight, Allah willing, against the Israelis and their allies, in order to pursue justice for the oppressed, and we shall not give up one inch of Palestine, as long as there is still a single true Muslim alive."
Meanwhile, President Mr. Bush wrapped up his visit to Israel Friday, commemorating the anniversary of the country's creation - a visit which he used to again urge both sides of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict to negotiate a peace settlement.
His visit, however, drew frustration from Palestinians, many of whom view the American leader as a biased friend of Israel. On the other side, few Israelis had hope that Mr. Bush could evoke the good will to see an agreement reached by the end of year - his long-stated goal.
Palestinians marked the 60th anniversary of Israel's creation with demonstrations and solemn ceremonies on Thursday - a stark contrast to Israel's joyous birthday celebrations. Palestinians refer to the anniversary as the "nakba," Arabic for catastrophe.
In the audio released Friday, bin Laden said the celebrations proved "that 60 years ago, the state of Israel did not exist. It was forcefully created on Palestinian land under the fire of the weapons, and this is evidence that the Jews are invader occupiers who should be fought."
Mr. Bush's embrace of Israel at a time when the Palestinians were mourning was bound to further harm the tainted U.S. image in the Palestinian areas and across the Arab world.
Palestinian analyst Hani al-Masri said Mr. Bush cannot be a peacemaker if he sides with Israel. "It is not a peace process. It is a process without peace," he told CBS News correspondent Robert Berger.
In a speech to the Knesset, or parliament, Mr. Bush asserted Thursday that the United States has an unbreakable bond with Israel. He said Americans believe that Israel has a right to defend itself from extremists and "killers pledged to its destruction."
Bin Laden reserved much of his new audio address for an attack on the Western media, which he accused of misleading the public to show "the Israeli invaders as the victims."
"On the other hand, they portrayed the Palestinians, who are claiming back their lands, as merciless terrorists," he said. "The media has contributed to the shaping of a misled public opinion that made it possible to involve Western nations in an unjust war against us, as has been the case in Iraq."
Al Qaeda has dramatically increased the pace of its messages since last year.
CBS News consultant Hoda Osman reported that this was bin Laden’s 26th statement since the Sept. 11th attacks, including four videos and 22 audio messages. Bin Laden’s last statement was an audio tape released on March 20th.
Bin Laden said that the infidel in the holy places and the plight of the Palestinian nabka was the reason for his jihad, long before 9/11.
He has been dead for a while and isn't making any new video or audio,
Benazir Bhutto had to go because she strayed from the script and told David Frost that Bin Laden was killed long ago--and she was dead within days herself.
And Benazir Bhutto has credibility above everyone else for what reason?
Don't you just cherry pick who you beleive to match your preconceived ideals?
Quoting: G. House
Bhutto has no known history of lying
and did not send over four thousand Americans to their deaths
to promote a political agenda,
and enrich a handfull of thieves,
nor did she orchestrate an economic policy,
which I like to call Arrogant Ignorance,
which has driven the economy to the breaking point.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 426149 5/16/2008 8:36 PM
While much of the world fixates on its usual obsession... setting up Jews for a second Holocaust, Islam is also hard at work laying waste to major portions of the world and preparing to impose Islamic rule over everybody and extinguishing their respective non-Islamic civilizations.
"Are you nuts," you might ask? " After all, is not Israel their primary enemy?" But to think that all Islamic issues spring forth from the Arab-Israeli conflict and that only Israel is a target shows a naivety that only invites disaster down the road! After Islam finishes off Israel, their "Little Satan," all the other larger Satans will meet up with the Sword of Islam! America has already seen the spillover of Islamic terrorism... the bombing of the U.S. Embassy in Beirut with the loss of hundreds of U.S. marines, the bombing of the U.S.S. Cole naval ship off Yemen and now the 9-11-01 World Trade Center bombing in New York. Yet America has received but a small taste of what Islam has in store for them!
Muslim at PrayerThe world "ISLAM" is Arabic for "surrender" or "submission" to the will of Allah [God]. In the language of the Holy Qur'an, Islam means the readiness of a person to take orders from God and to follow them through. It is not derived from the word, "peace," as Muslims would have us believe! Look it up in any dictionary and see for yourself! Seeing a Muslim praying nearly flat on his face five times a day even projects the appearance of a master-slave relationship... a submission of sorts. And while the Muslim is submissive to Allah, all "non-believers" (Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Catholics, etc.) MUST submit to the Muslim. That's how THEIR God wills it to be!
Anonymous Coward User ID: 427897 5/16/2008 9:07 PM
the first word i read was BS, so i rated this this thread BS. Al-Qaeda does not exist, period. All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force... We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent Mind. This Mind is the matrix of all matter.
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How could he possibly have made the recording. (You know these recordings that unless it's Bin Laden the agencies can say 100% they've identified the voice, but when it is Bin Laden they can never actually say 100% it is him, and then you get some obscure European scientists who can say it is 100% not him... Give me a break) Has anyone else noticed this elephant in the lounge room ?
13.0.0.0.0 Absence of proof is not proof of absence. User ID: 154922 5/16/2008 10:57 PM
Osama bin Laden = The Dread Pirate Roberts BELIEF - any cognitive content held as true and not immediately susceptible to rigorous proof - confidence; faith; trust
KNOWLEDGE - direct and clear awareness, as of a fact or circumstance, as from study or investigation
BELIEFS or KNOWLEDGE... if it's truth you're interested in, the choice is obvious.
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"Read everything, listen to everybody, don't trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research." - William Cooper, 1943 - 2001.
Have you got the guts to live like that? Or do you wimp out and attack everything that goes against what you think?
How many times are TPTB gonna resurrect bin Laden?
WHY DO YOU THINK OBL IS DEAD?
ANY PROOF TO YOUR COMMENT?
Quoting: jarha
I think that the most disturbing part about your obvious position is that you think you're the strong one that is holding to his convictions, and to what is right. However, for the sake of posterity let me simplify what most of us have already said to you over the years;
Sorry Jarha, the world has opened it's eyes to the lie that is called "terrorism". Unfortunately your self image of being that tough guy (that has held onto his 80's mullet from 1986 to it's future "come back") has backfired so badly that not only do you not look like the cool guy you think you do; but in it's stead what stands before that mirror is a very lonely little deaf boy that continues to dance after the music has stopped.
The true patriots have stepped up, those who have been pretending can sit down now namely Jarha...
Anonymous Coward User ID: 434418 5/17/2008 2:52 AM
Spain is not invading Palastine yet ETA Islamist bomb Spain almost daily..Canada is not in Invaded Palastine yet Islamist set off bombs in Canada ..Iraqi does not invade Palastine Yet Al Sadr militial of Iran sends bombs through Iraq....the list is endless.. Muslim use any excuse to continue terror against many countries..non stop to weaken cowardly countries for political and future rule...get backbone and just realize this is a long term fight..sorry folks..our ancestors didnot give up the fight ..why should we..we must stand firm and tuff..Thugs are only afraid of tuffer thugs..appeasing Islam will not work and it will result in long term downward spiral for all americans..to defeat....stand tall and united..nothing else works as well.after all Islam is united against all infidel nations..
Isn’t it convenient that when Bush is in Israel kissing the ass
of his Zionist overlords, Bin Laden suddenly appears to
to reinforce that the US needs to keep pumping payola
into Jewland.
Oh and that fake missle attack while Bush was there
was a nice touch.
Quoting: Hannibal 430264
Suddenly? Convenient? 60 years from Israel's proclamation of independence rings any bells? Bush was in Israel for that reason and Osama's message centered on that same event.
Fake missile attack? Oh, that's right, I forgot, there are no islamists, no imams and political/guerilla leaders issuing calls for jihad, no shaheeds, no posters of suicide bombers on the streets...
Bhutto has no known history of lying
and did not send over four thousand Americans to their deaths
to promote a political agenda,
and enrich a handfull of thieves,
nor did she orchestrate an economic policy,
which I like to call Arrogant Ignorance,
which has driven the economy to the breaking point.
Who gives a shit what he thinks. Who made him the leader of the Muslim world who speaks for the faithful? Exactly. The thugs of al qaeda did. His skinny corpse has probably been eaten by a goat long ago, and now they're editing his voice from old clips to make new "statements."
I wish they wouldn't put this flea-bag's worthless crap in the media and give him the credit he doesn't deserve. It only pumps him up and makes him sound like he's important. He is/was just another asshole who thinks he has to change the world and kill everyone to do it. Honestly, I don't know why the U.S. media licks his ass so much. They should stop releasing anything about al qaeda or bin suck laden.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 124859 5/17/2008 5:57 AM
Isn’t it convenient that when Bush is in Israel kissing the ass
of his Zionist overlords, Bin Laden suddenly appears to
to reinforce that the US needs to keep pumping payola
into Jewland.
Oh and that fake missle attack while Bush was there
was a nice touch.
Suddenly? Convenient? 60 years from Israel's proclamation of independence rings any bells? Bush was in Israel for that reason and Osama's message centered on that same event.
Quoting: 89446
Independence? Creation. Idiot. It didn't exist before then. The land was taken by the barrel of a gun.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 111084 5/17/2008 6:02 AM
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