i hear ya solar its true when the shit hits the fan then what ????? she needs to do what every smart person out there is doing get a job stock up move out of trap shes in and take care of her ownself what happens when the shit hits the fan ,,and theres no more welfare what then????
Anonymous Coward User ID: 434315 5/16/2008 10:20 PM
<soon that will be you, you in human piece of shit!>
Naa I don't think so! There are some of us out there who DO WORK to support the Gov't Titty Suckers out there.
And I have a survival plan in place - part of it is to put a bullit into anyone that comes on my property!
And it will probably be you "demanding" that I share what I have stockpiled.
I can tell you part of the problem already. They are shopping at One Stop Food & Liquors. You can't buy groceries at a convenience store and expect to eat all month. An adult woman and two toddlers should be able to live on $312 a month, if she shops sensibly and cooks. I have no doubt I could do it.
316-I AGREE WITH YOU
Here is my RANT
YES ...the middle class has to know how to budget..since we make too much to qualify for assistance and not enough to save.
I seriously doubt the upperclass & members of our congress & senate would even last 60 days paying the real costs of living on $3800 month. family of 5 ( child -requires childcare 5 days a week 2 teens 2 dogs No credit cards,2 car payments , 1 house payment,student loans ,lights,gas,water,phones,cable,taxes,insurance,healthcare, the list goes on & on
BTW.. I know a lady that is not a legal resident..pisses me off to hear her bragging about her $1600.00 month FOOD STAMPS(Star Card)she gets for her family of 6
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 378585
If you can't support your family you don't need pets, and you could sell those cars and buy cheaper cars... and have no payments.
I can tell you part of the problem already. They are shopping at One Stop Food & Liquors. You can't buy groceries at a convenience store and expect to eat all month. An adult woman and two toddlers should be able to live on $312 a month, if she shops sensibly and cooks. I have no doubt I could do it.
316-I AGREE WITH YOU
Here is my RANT
YES ...the middle class has to know how to budget..since we make too much to qualify for assistance and not enough to save.
I seriously doubt the upperclass & members of our congress & senate would even last 60 days paying the real costs of living on $3800 month. family of 5 ( child -requires childcare 5 days a week 2 teens 2 dogs No credit cards,2 car payments , 1 house payment,student loans ,lights,gas,water,phones,cable,taxes,insurance,healthcare, the list goes on & on
BTW.. I know a lady that is not a legal resident..pisses me off to hear her bragging about her $1600.00 month FOOD STAMPS(Star Card)she gets for her family of 6
If you can't support your family you don't need pets, and you could sell those cars and buy cheaper cars... and have no payments.
Quoting: Solar Guy
also kill the cable and cut out pizza on weekends.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 310117 5/16/2008 10:28 PM
i hear ya solar its true when the shit hits the fan then what ????? she needs to do what every smart person out there is doing get a job stock up move out of trap shes in and take care of her ownself what happens when the shit hits the fan ,,and theres no more welfare what then????
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 328162
Then you come to my door and everybody gets a job.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 106290 5/16/2008 10:31 PM
I have compassion for someone having hard times. Probably not as much compassion as I should though, for those who won't plan, budget, and try to figure how to make it stretch.
The first person mentioned, gets 78.00 a week for groceries. Listed below are items she could have if she made an effort to prepare food. No, it's not great, and spending some time and thought would come up with a better menu, but it would fill those little bellies.
Even with this, she could save by making her own biscuits, noodles and dumplings, but giving her a break, I alloted Bisquick and noodles. She could also make her own pancake syrup with the sugar.
There is no reason for those children to go hungry, or for her to run out of food with her budget. From this first week, she should have some sugar, cooking oil, mayonaise, oatmeal, pancake mix, macaroni, peanut butter, popcorn, bisquick, and dried beans leftover for the following week. That would free up a few dollars for some healthier foods.
Breakfast
French Toast w/ O.J.
Oatmeal with Milk/sugar
Bacon/Toast/Egg
Pancakes/Syrup
Banannas with milk and sugar
Fried potatoes/egg
Lunch
Peanut butter sandwiches/milk/apple
Macaroni with butter/cole slaw
Egg salad sandwich
Chicken salad sandwich
Chicken vegetable soup with veggies
Dinner
2 legs, 1 wing fried or baked w/ mashed potatoes/cole slaw
1 chicken breast used in chicken/noodles/biscuits
1 chicken breast for chicken salad
2 thighs for chicken dumplings
remaining wing, back, neck, giblets cooked with veggies for soup
1/2 corned beef for corned beef and cabbage
1/2 corned beef for sandwiches or gravy over toast
1/2 hamburg for gravy/mashed potatoes
1/2 hamburg cooked with dried beans
Snacks
Apples
Popcorn
Mix some bisquick, make balls, fry, drain, shake in sugar
I have compassion for someone having hard times. Probably not as much compassion as I should though, for those who won't plan, budget, and try to figure how to make it stretch.
The first person mentioned, gets 78.00 a week for groceries. Listed below are items she could have if she made an effort to prepare food. No, it's not great, and spending some time and thought would come up with a better menu, but it would fill those little bellies.
Even with this, she could save by making her own biscuits, noodles and dumplings, but giving her a break, I alloted Bisquick and noodles. She could also make her own pancake syrup with the sugar.
There is no reason for those children to go hungry, or for her to run out of food with her budget. From this first week, she should have some sugar, cooking oil, mayonaise, oatmeal, pancake mix, macaroni, peanut butter, popcorn, bisquick, and dried beans leftover for the following week. That would free up a few dollars for some healthier foods.
Breakfast
French Toast w/ O.J.
Oatmeal with Milk/sugar
Bacon/Toast/Egg
Pancakes/Syrup
Banannas with milk and sugar
Fried potatoes/egg
Lunch
Peanut butter sandwiches/milk/apple
Macaroni with butter/cole slaw
Egg salad sandwich
Chicken salad sandwich
Chicken vegetable soup with veggies
Dinner
2 legs, 1 wing fried or baked w/ mashed potatoes/cole slaw
1 chicken breast used in chicken/noodles/biscuits
1 chicken breast for chicken salad
2 thighs for chicken dumplings
remaining wing, back, neck, giblets cooked with veggies for soup
1/2 corned beef for corned beef and cabbage
1/2 corned beef for sandwiches or gravy over toast
1/2 hamburg for gravy/mashed potatoes
1/2 hamburg cooked with dried beans
Snacks
Apples
Popcorn
Mix some bisquick, make balls, fry, drain, shake in sugar
I have compassion for someone having hard times. Probably not as much compassion as I should though, for those who won't plan, budget, and try to figure how to make it stretch.
The first person mentioned, gets 78.00 a week for groceries. Listed below are items she could have if she made an effort to prepare food. No, it's not great, and spending some time and thought would come up with a better menu, but it would fill those little bellies.
Even with this, she could save by making her own biscuits, noodles and dumplings, but giving her a break, I alloted Bisquick and noodles. She could also make her own pancake syrup with the sugar.
There is no reason for those children to go hungry, or for her to run out of food with her budget. From this first week, she should have some sugar, cooking oil, mayonaise, oatmeal, pancake mix, macaroni, peanut butter, popcorn, bisquick, and dried beans leftover for the following week. That would free up a few dollars for some healthier foods.
Breakfast
French Toast w/ O.J.
Oatmeal with Milk/sugar
Bacon/Toast/Egg
Pancakes/Syrup
Banannas with milk and sugar
Fried potatoes/egg
Lunch
Peanut butter sandwiches/milk/apple
Macaroni with butter/cole slaw
Egg salad sandwich
Chicken salad sandwich
Chicken vegetable soup with veggies
Dinner
2 legs, 1 wing fried or baked w/ mashed potatoes/cole slaw
1 chicken breast used in chicken/noodles/biscuits
1 chicken breast for chicken salad
2 thighs for chicken dumplings
remaining wing, back, neck, giblets cooked with veggies for soup
1/2 corned beef for corned beef and cabbage
1/2 corned beef for sandwiches or gravy over toast
1/2 hamburg for gravy/mashed potatoes
1/2 hamburg cooked with dried beans
Snacks
Apples
Popcorn
Mix some bisquick, make balls, fry, drain, shake in sugar
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 106290
Excellent!!!
But the next thing you know instead of just funding these parasites we will have to go their houses and cook for them too!
You people are very judgemental. I have 3 kids and we go store shopping at least twice a week, milk is outrageous which is almost 5 dollars a gallon. Why don't you add things up, we spend about 5 hundred a month and no we don't buy steaks and lobsters.
Quoting: Debbie 434317
i have 2 kids, and their dad stays home with them while i work. we eat pretty much whatever we want, and i can assure you $300 lasts me all month in food with plenty left. i can cook so many different dinners that are about $5-$10 per night. we also have steak about 3 times a month :D "I'm just like you...just not as cool"
Anonymous Coward User ID: 426849 5/16/2008 10:51 PM
Hell, I'm degreed, work in a career and I could use some food stamps to supplement. But, noooo I have no children and I work and so I can't get a bit of assistance. God forbid I get sick, lose my job, get pregnant (((gasp!)
I am the working poor...I thought a degree would guarantee me at least middle class status. NOPE! If I had a child I'd definitely be impoverished.
No, it's not fair! If I had my full pay then I could survive off of the fruits of my labor.
I get angry when others who don't work get relief and I get nothing. But, I am not for innocent children starving to death either.
I truly don't understand how in America folks are starving.
Oh wait! Duh....we are in America...no money...no food. no...job...no money.
Get a job...still no money...get 3 jobs...barely making it.
If you have children...and work three jobs..then who is raising the kids? Not the parent. All your money goes to daycare.
If you have a great paying job...taxes takes most of it.
If you get assistance and try to work...they pull the rug from under you...so you can't get back on your feet.
It's a vicious cycle....and not necessarily the fault of the poor.
It's the system.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 106290 5/16/2008 10:51 PM
But the next thing you know instead of just funding these parasites we will have to go their houses and cook for them too!
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 319899
Sadly, you could be right. She probably would be running out if she bought convenience items,deli items,lunch meats,pizza, pop, chips, and box cereals.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 378585 5/16/2008 11:19 PM
I can tell you part of the problem already. They are shopping at One Stop Food & Liquors. You can't buy groceries at a convenience store and expect to eat all month. An adult woman and two toddlers should be able to live on $312 a month, if she shops sensibly and cooks. I have no doubt I could do it.
316-I AGREE WITH YOU
Here is my RANT
YES ...the middle class has to know how to budget..since we make too much to qualify for assistance and not enough to save.
I seriously doubt the upperclass & members of our congress & senate would even last 60 days paying the real costs of living on $3800 month. family of 5 ( child -requires childcare 5 days a week 2 teens 2 dogs No credit cards,2 car payments , 1 house payment,student loans ,lights,gas,water,phones,cable,taxes,insurance,healthcare, the list goes on & on
BTW.. I know a lady that is not a legal resident..pisses me off to hear her bragging about her $1600.00 month FOOD STAMPS(Star Card)she gets for her family of 6
If you can't support your family you don't need pets, and you could sell those cars and buy cheaper cars... and have no payments.
Quoting: Solar Guy
If you can't support your family you don't need pets, and you could sell those cars and buy cheaper cars... and have no payments.
SOLAR- I think you have misread my post...I never stated We can not support our family.. We do.. Our cars are moderate&cheap.. We traded in the large type suv (do not need the extra room since we are out of strollers & car seats)& my husbands big work truck. We do not have mass transit available here. And WE must have the cars to get to work -sharing &carpooling is not an option.Our pets are part of our family too..You do not throw away or abandon family or become irresponsible in hard times. You have to keep moving and work hard together.As the prices soar we will have to do odd jobs to make up the difference to keep on pace with the costs. We might start selling snowcones on the weekend as a family.
My point is this: There are way too many ppl here in the USA LEGAL & NOT LEGAL that are riding the system that DO NOT DESERVE IT NOR HAVE THEY EARNED IT.
I am all for helping someone get back on their feet during a short crisis... but 1st they must want to get back on their feet and learn to help themselves by being self sufficient and manage their lives to include being responsible adults & citizens of this country.
Welfare was not designed as a lifelong handout or a means of political inducements.
What about our elderly? Who is taking care of them??
For the majority of them really worked their asses off 40-50 years ago served in our armed forces..Did not demand a damn thing from anyone or any county,state or federal entity. These Men & Women deserve more than any able body looking or expecting sympathy & entitlements.
"Cherokee County Sheriff Jeff Shaver said he has figured out how to feed prisoners on $1.75 a day and still turn a little profit, and he doesn't get complaints about the grub.
"These people eat better here than they eat on the street, and they eat three times a day," Shaver said.
He said he is constantly on the lookout for good deals on food, pays two cooks and supplements their work with trusty labor, and wastes nothing, turning today's leftovers tomorrow's soup.
Blakely, the Limestone County sheriff, said he searches for deals on fresh vegetables, eggs and milk. Prisoners get three meals on weekdays, two on weekends and holidays. "They get a lot of beans, but we feed them meat every day," Blakely said.
The menu on a recent day in the Limestone County Jail was two pancakes and syrup, sausage and milk for breakfast; peanut butter sandwiches, chips and Kool-Aid for lunch; and white beans, turnip greens, fried squash, cornbread and sweet tea for dinner.
Blakely and Shaver would not say exactly how much money they make off the jail food system but said it is not a lot. Entrekin said he has not been sheriff long enough to say whether he is turning a profit for himself.
Blakely said prisoners who enter the jail late at night on charges such as drunken driving and make bail early the next day without eating a meal help the bottom line because the state pays for two days of food — $3.50 — without the sheriff having to spend a cent.
Inmate William Howell said state prisons offer more food than Blakely's jail. But he said the food in state prison isn't nearly as good.
"It's not like they go down to the bread store and catch it coming out of the oven, but it's good," Howell said. "We've got it good here.""
Alabama sheriffs feed inmates on $1.75 a day (AP)
Anonymous Coward User ID: 433558 5/16/2008 11:34 PM
FUCK HER! If the dumb whore didn't have two illegitimate kids maybe she could get a job and feed her fat ass. She's nothing but a pig living off my tax dollars. FUCK HER! She part of what ruined this country. The constitution doesn't guarantee her a meal...scum fuck bitch.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 423199
Hey, lighten up.
She should go to dental assisting school. After that she'll get 18 bucks an hour. No depression really affects the well off in a job they won't lose.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 433558 5/16/2008 11:38 PM
No one should be paying six bucks for raw chicekn. Haven't you guys heard of sales. There's still Tyson and Foster Farm sales for .59 cents a pound. Don't you get food sales papers every week? I get them no matter what state I lived in. Shop the sales.
When there is a sale, get extra. If you're smart, get a cheap extra fridge and put it in the garage. Freeze the cheap sale foods.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 291612 5/16/2008 11:40 PM
Social programs have never, nor will they ever benefit society and this has been proven across the globe. I understand people needing a leg up now and then, but we are talking 1,2,3,4,5,6 generations of people whose only goal is to bounce out more kids to get more money.
You aren't doing anyone any favors by paying their way in life and you can argue this all you want, but it is a fact. The way it should be, if you are collecting food stamps and section 8 assistance, you should be working for the taxpayers by picking up trash, cleaning public buildings or taking secondary schooling to get you going in the right direction. If you don;t work for anything, then you never appreciate anything nor do you have any sense of self accomplishment or esteem..
Anonymous Coward User ID: 316413 5/16/2008 11:48 PM
6% of Amirsrack's taxes goes back to your own brothers and sisters, sons and daughters. The lowest social safety net percentage in the Western World. Maybe the food stamp mother is a vet who had to pay back her bonus because disability shortened her tour of duty.
All the rest of the tax goes to the rich, in what Chomsky calls public subsidy of private profit.
The media tells you to ask for the corporafasci and you get it.
Norway who spends 50% of their taxes on the social safety net, won't do business with Wally world, because they're unethical.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 316413 5/16/2008 11:49 PM
No one should be paying six bucks for raw chicekn. Haven't you guys heard of sales. There's still Tyson and Foster Farm sales for .59 cents a pound. Don't you get food sales papers every week? I get them no matter what state I lived in. Shop the sales.
When there is a sale, get extra. If you're smart, get a cheap extra fridge and put it in the garage. Freeze the cheap sale foods.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 433558
If you're talking about my post where I listed the chicken at 6.00, you're right. I'd only pay half of most of the prices I listed, but everything was priced on the high side, to show that you could easily feed 2 young children and 1 adult on her budget.
You're right about the sales, and buying low and freezing food, too. The woman in the article obviously either isn't aware, or doesn't have the inclination to take advantage of those opportunities.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 383623 5/17/2008 12:09 AM
Hell, I'm degreed, work in a career and I could use some food stamps to supplement. But, noooo I have no children and I work and so I can't get a bit of assistance. God forbid I get sick, lose my job, get pregnant (((gasp!)
I am the working poor...I thought a degree would guarantee me at least middle class status. NOPE! If I had a child I'd definitely be impoverished.
No, it's not fair! If I had my full pay then I could survive off of the fruits of my labor.
I get angry when others who don't work get relief and I get nothing. But, I am not for innocent children starving to death either.
I truly don't understand how in America folks are starving.
Oh wait! Duh....we are in America...no money...no food. no...job...no money.
Get a job...still no money...get 3 jobs...barely making it.
If you have children...and work three jobs..then who is raising the kids? Not the parent. All your money goes to daycare.
If you have a great paying job...taxes takes most of it.
If you get assistance and try to work...they pull the rug from under you...so you can't get back on your feet.
It's a vicious cycle....and not necessarily the fault of the poor.
I'm with you. Also I've been around long enough to know that you shouldn't judge a whole group of ppl by the actions of a few. Yes I know about welfare fraud and ppl buying steak and lobster on the taxpayer's done and so forth.
But there are ppl out there who are trying their hardest to keep afloat and if they are getting foodstamps they are stretching their food resources as far as they can. Most ppl if they have children can get a little something but the poster above is in an unfortunate position. She did all the right things. Went to school, has no children, didn't get the well-paying job she studied for, and fell between the cracks.
I think the FS bashers should look around the country as it is today and realise there but for the grace of God goes I. We never know when any of us here might need somebody to hand us a bit of bread to eat. And most of us are a paycheck from the curb.....just sayin'
Anonymous Coward User ID: 434362 5/17/2008 12:14 AM
"The policy of the American government is to leave its citizens free, neither restraining nor aiding them in their pursuits." --Thomas Jefferson
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." --Thomas Jefferson
Here is why Thomas Jefferson believes this way, and here is why government-forced charity (THEFT) is wrong:
Liberty? What is Liberty?
It shouldn't need to be explained to people why stealing is wrong, but people have been so indoctrinated that they now support 'evil' under the guise of good.
By the way, who is stopping you from supporting people like this with YOUR OWN charity? I guess people are all for robbing others as long as they can hide behind government and have government perform these immoral acts upon others with force.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 328162 (OP) 5/17/2008 1:13 AM
I have compassion for someone having hard times. Probably not as much compassion as I should though, for those who won't plan, budget, and try to figure how to make it stretch.
The first person mentioned, gets 78.00 a week for groceries. Listed below are items she could have if she made an effort to prepare food. No, it's not great, and spending some time and thought would come up with a better menu, but it would fill those little bellies.
Even with this, she could save by making her own biscuits, noodles and dumplings, but giving her a break, I alloted Bisquick and noodles. She could also make her own pancake syrup with the sugar.
There is no reason for those children to go hungry, or for her to run out of food with her budget. From this first week, she should have some sugar, cooking oil, mayonaise, oatmeal, pancake mix, macaroni, peanut butter, popcorn, bisquick, and dried beans leftover for the following week. That would free up a few dollars for some healthier foods.
Breakfast
French Toast w/ O.J.
Oatmeal with Milk/sugar
Bacon/Toast/Egg
Pancakes/Syrup
Banannas with milk and sugar
Fried potatoes/egg
Lunch
Peanut butter sandwiches/milk/apple
Macaroni with butter/cole slaw
Egg salad sandwich
Chicken salad sandwich
Chicken vegetable soup with veggies
Dinner
2 legs, 1 wing fried or baked w/ mashed potatoes/cole slaw
1 chicken breast used in chicken/noodles/biscuits
1 chicken breast for chicken salad
2 thighs for chicken dumplings
remaining wing, back, neck, giblets cooked with veggies for soup
1/2 corned beef for corned beef and cabbage
1/2 corned beef for sandwiches or gravy over toast
1/2 hamburg for gravy/mashed potatoes
1/2 hamburg cooked with dried beans
Snacks
Apples
Popcorn
Mix some bisquick, make balls, fry, drain, shake in sugar
Excellent!!!
But the next thing you know instead of just funding these parasites we will have to go their houses and cook for them too!
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 319899
lmaoo
Anonymous Coward User ID: 328162 (OP) 5/17/2008 1:33 AM
I'm with you. Also I've been around long enough to know that you shouldn't judge a whole group of ppl by the actions of a few. Yes I know about welfare fraud and ppl buying steak and lobster on the taxpayer's done and so forth.
But there are ppl out there who are trying their hardest to keep afloat and if they are getting foodstamps they are stretching their food resources as far as they can. Most ppl if they have children can get a little something but the poster above is in an unfortunate position. She did all the right things. Went to school, has no children, didn't get the well-paying job she studied for, and fell between the cracks.
I think the FS bashers should look around the country as it is today and realise there but for the grace of God goes I. We never know when any of us here might need somebody to hand us a bit of bread to eat. And most of us are a paycheck from the curb.....just sayin'
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 383623
What some dorks don't realize is that while their towns and villages have a Wally-World on nearly every corner, very few chain grocers venture into the inner cities or anywhere with subsidized housing. The inner-city people are stuck with Kwikkie-Marts.
There's no accident...it's by design. It keeps "them" down and out of the way of the corporatists.
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