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Ephraim Come Home! Are You Part Of The 10 Lost Tribes Of Israel?

 
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After King Solomon died, Israel divided into 2 kingdoms.

The 10 northern tribes rebelled against Solomon's son and became known in the Scriptures as "the house of Israel" or as "the house of Ephraim" which referred to the most dominant tribe in the northern kingdom which was Ephraim.

3 tribes (Judah, Benjamin and the Levites) stayed in the south and they became known in the Scriptures as "the house of Judah" which referred to the most dominant tribe in the southern kingdom which was Judah.

As we see in the following Scriptures, God promised to bring back both Judah AND Ephraim to the land of Israel in the last days. Judah (the Jews) started returning to Israel in 1948. However, God also promised in Ezekiel 37 that Ephraim WOULD return and be reunited with Judah:

Ezekiel 37:15-22

15 The word of the LORD came to me: 16 "Son of man, take a stick of wood and write on it, 'Belonging to Judah and the Israelites associated with him.' Then take another stick of wood, and write on it, 'Ephraim's stick, belonging to Joseph and all the house of Israel associated with him.' 17 Join them together into one stick so that they will become one in your hand.
18 "When your countrymen ask you, 'Won't you tell us what you mean by this?' 19 say to them, 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: I am going to take the stick of Joseph-which is in Ephraim's hand-and of the Israelite tribes associated with him, and join it to Judah's stick, making them a single stick of wood, and they will become one in my hand.' 20 Hold before their eyes the sticks you have written on 21 and say to them, 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: I will take the Israelites out of the nations where they have gone. I will gather them from all around and bring them back into their own land. 22 I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel. There will be one king over all of them and they will never again be two nations or be divided into two kingdoms.

So the promise of God is that once this happens they will never be divided again.

Has this happened yet?

No.

So it is a prophecy that is waiting to be fulfilled.

This promise of a reunification between Judah and Ephraim is also found in Isaiah 11:

Isaiah 11:10-13

10 In that day the Root of Jesse will stand as a banner for the peoples; the nations will rally to him, and his place of rest will be glorious. 11 In that day the Lord will reach out his hand a second time to reclaim the remnant that is left of his people from Assyria, from Lower Egypt, from Upper Egypt, from Cush, from Elam, from Babylonia, from Hamath and from the islands of the sea.

12 He will raise a banner for the nations
and gather the exiles of Israel;
he will assemble the scattered people of Judah
from the four quarters of the earth.

13 Ephraim's jealousy will vanish,
and Judah's enemies will be cut off;
Ephraim will not be jealous of Judah,
nor Judah hostile toward Ephraim.

So who is Ephraim today? Long before Christ came, Assyria invaded the northern kingdom and took the ten tribes away and scattered them to the four winds just as the Scriptures foretold.

So how can we identify them today? A good place to start is in Genesis.

Genesis 48:17-19

17And when Joseph saw that his father laid his right hand upon the head of Ephraim, it displeased him: and he held up his father's hand, to remove it from Ephraim's head unto Manasseh's head.

18And Joseph said unto his father, Not so, my father: for this is the firstborn; put thy right hand upon his head.

19And his father refused, and said, I know it, my son, I know it: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations.

The term in v. 19, "a multitude of nations", should literally read "the fullness of the gentiles" because that is what the Hebrew text actually says. Even back in Genesis, God knew that Ephraim would someday be mixed in with the gentile nations.

Today God has been revealing to His people that much of what is called "the church" around the world is Ephraim. But Ephraim is unfamiliar with many of God's ways:

Hosea 8:11-12

11Because Ephraim hath made many altars to sin, altars shall be unto him to sin.

12I have written to him the great things of my law, but they were counted as a strange thing.

Isn't that an exact description of our day? God has written to Ephraim the great things of His Law in the Bible, but we consider the "Old Testament" to be a "strange thing", don't we?

But the days of restoration are coming just as the Lord promised through Jeremiah:

Jeremiah 23:5-8

5 "The days are coming," declares the LORD,
"when I will raise up to David a righteous Branch,
a King who will reign wisely
and do what is just and right in the land.

6 In his days Judah will be saved
and Israel will live in safety.
This is the name by which he will be called:
The LORD Our Righteousness.

7 "So then, the days are coming," declares the LORD, "when people will no longer say, 'As surely as the LORD lives, who brought the Israelites up out of Egypt,' 8 but they will say, 'As surely as the LORD lives, who brought the descendants of Israel up out of the land of the north and out of all the countries where he had banished them.' Then they will live in their own land."

The truth is that God is calling Ephraim from the 4 corners of the earth to be reunited to his brother Judah, and they will have one shepherd (Yahshua - Jesus) over them.

If this post has been tugging at your spirit, I would encourage you to watch this YouTube video to learn more:

[link to www.youtube.com]

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Ephraim Come Home! Are You Part Of The 10 Lost Tribes Of Israel?

After King Solomon died, Israel divided into 2 kingdoms.

The 10 northern tribes rebelled against Solomon's son and became known in the Scriptures as "the house of Israel" or as "the house of Ephraim" which referred to the most dominant tribe in the northern kingdom which was Ephraim.

3 tribes (Judah, Benjamin and the Levites) stayed in the south and they became known in the Scriptures as "the house of Judah" which referred to the most dominant tribe in the southern kingdom which was Judah.

As we see in the following Scriptures, God promised to bring back both Judah AND Ephraim to the land of Israel in the last days. Judah (the Jews) started returning to Israel in 1948. However, God also promised in Ezekiel 37 that Ephraim WOULD return and be reunited with Judah:

Ezekiel 37:15-22

15 The word of the LORD came to me: 16 "Son of man, take a stick of wood and write on it, 'Belonging to Judah and the Israelites associated with him.' Then take another stick of wood, and write on it, 'Ephraim's stick, belonging to Joseph and all the house of Israel associated with him.' 17 Join them together into one stick so that they will become one in your hand.
18 "When your countrymen ask you, 'Won't you tell us what you mean by this?' 19 say to them, 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: I am going to take the stick of Joseph-which is in Ephraim's hand-and of the Israelite tribes associated with him, and join it to Judah's stick, making them a single stick of wood, and they will become one in my hand.' 20 Hold before their eyes the sticks you have written on 21 and say to them, 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: I will take the Israelites out of the nations where they have gone. I will gather them from all around and bring them back into their own land. 22 I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel. There will be one king over all of them and they will never again be two nations or be divided into two kingdoms.

So the promise of God is that once this happens they will never be divided again.

Has this happened yet?

No.

So it is a prophecy that is waiting to be fulfilled.

This promise of a reunification between Judah and Ephraim is also found in Isaiah 11:

Isaiah 11:10-13

10 In that day the Root of Jesse will stand as a banner for the peoples; the nations will rally to him, and his place of rest will be glorious. 11 In that day the Lord will reach out his hand a second time to reclaim the remnant that is left of his people from Assyria, from Lower Egypt, from Upper Egypt, from Cush, from Elam, from Babylonia, from Hamath and from the islands of the sea.

12 He will raise a banner for the nations
and gather the exiles of Israel;
he will assemble the scattered people of Judah
from the four quarters of the earth.

13 Ephraim's jealousy will vanish,
and Judah's enemies will be cut off;
Ephraim will not be jealous of Judah,
nor Judah hostile toward Ephraim.

So who is Ephraim today? Long before Christ came, Assyria invaded the northern kingdom and took the ten tribes away and scattered them to the four winds just as the Scriptures foretold.

So how can we identify them today? A good place to start is in Genesis.

Genesis 48:17-19

17And when Joseph saw that his father laid his right hand upon the head of Ephraim, it displeased him: and he held up his father's hand, to remove it from Ephraim's head unto Manasseh's head.

18And Joseph said unto his father, Not so, my father: for this is the firstborn; put thy right hand upon his head.

19And his father refused, and said, I know it, my son, I know it: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations.

The term in v. 19, "a multitude of nations", should literally read "the fullness of the gentiles" because that is what the Hebrew text actually says. Even back in Genesis, God knew that Ephraim would someday be mixed in with the gentile nations.

Today God has been revealing to His people that much of what is called "the church" around the world is Ephraim. But Ephraim is unfamiliar with many of God's ways:

Hosea 8:11-12

11Because Ephraim hath made many altars to sin, altars shall be unto him to sin.

12I have written to him the great things of my law, but they were counted as a strange thing.

Isn't that an exact description of our day? God has written to Ephraim the great things of His Law in the Bible, but we consider the "Old Testament" to be a "strange thing", don't we?

But the days of restoration are coming just as the Lord promised through Jeremiah:

Jeremiah 23:5-8

5 "The days are coming," declares the LORD,
"when I will raise up to David a righteous Branch,
a King who will reign wisely
and do what is just and right in the land.

6 In his days Judah will be saved
and Israel will live in safety.
This is the name by which he will be called:
The LORD Our Righteousness.

7 "So then, the days are coming," declares the LORD, "when people will no longer say, 'As surely as the LORD lives, who brought the Israelites up out of Egypt,' 8 but they will say, 'As surely as the LORD lives, who brought the descendants of Israel up out of the land of the north and out of all the countries where he had banished them.' Then they will live in their own land."

The truth is that God is calling Ephraim from the 4 corners of the earth to be reunited to his brother Judah, and they will have one shepherd (Yahshua - Jesus) over them.

If this post has been tugging at your spirit, I would encourage you to watch this YouTube video to learn more:

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Thanks OP for this post. I also believe that a remnant of Ephraim will hear the call to leave Babylon before Judment falls. Ephraim is primarily located in the West and I believe were the reformers that came over here from Europe.
YHVH showed me this in 1986 before my Jewish father died.
I thought at time I was the only person who had this revelation. Then someone gave me Batya Wootens Book, The Olive Tree of Israel. She had also been given the same revelation around the same time as myself.
YHVH has revealed this truth to His people in these Last Days.
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Thanks OP for this post. I also believe that a remnant of Ephraim will hear the call to leave Babylon before Judment falls. Ephraim is primarily located in the West and I believe were the reformers that came over here from Europe.
YHVH showed me this in 1986 before my Jewish father died.
I thought at time I was the only person who had this revelation. Then someone gave me Batya Wootens Book, The Olive Tree of Israel. She had also been given the same revelation around the same time as myself.
YHVH has revealed this truth to His people in these Last Days.
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There is truly a massive awakening happening among the people of God.

It is going to be exciting to see God's plan in action during these end times.
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What do the rest of you think about all of this?
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Fucken true that shit
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Stupid self-righteous self-fulfilling prophecies. Perpetuate the spiritual dictatorship of a maniacal quasi-creator, or seize free will and take the reigns for yourself?

Hmm...
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Stupid self-righteous self-fulfilling prophecies. Perpetuate the spiritual dictatorship of a maniacal quasi-creator, or seize free will and take the reigns for yourself?

Hmm...
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You have free will *inside your field*. Even so, in the Absolute, complete freedom is not different from complete determination. If you oppose those two, you are only displaying a dualistic view, which is a limited one and belongs to this world, not to the Whole.

If you are so self-sufficient, try not to get sick or not to die! Vanity and pride, that's what you express.
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What will happen isn't something that can be altered.

Only the vain imagination can be altered in this Matrix.

What will be, will be.

No need for drama or the 'recalling' of the tribe of Ephraim....

All will return as they return. ....

there is a scripture:

'Be still and know.'

all things are found in stillness.

insanity is found in the flapping of wings and the running of minds.
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Hope of Israel Ministries (Church of YEHOVAH):

A Remembrance of Normandy and D-Day

The Greatness of America and Britain

Ephraim or Manasseh? Manasseh or Ephraim? Although it is not a matter
of personal salvation, understanding WHICH nation or nations today repre-
sent the ancient tribes of Ephraim and Manasseh is vital to truly grasp the
significance of Biblical prophecy, especially the entire book of the prophet
Hosea! Let's notice carefully exactly how the prophetic words of Jacob
have been excitingly and dynamically fulfilled!




There can be no question as to which is the greatest nation on the face of the earth, today -- and for all of the Twentieth Century. That great honor belongs to the United States of America. Although Britain had her "hey-day" of glory and grandeur, and it was once proudly boasted that the "Sun never set on the British Empire," nevertheless, that proud boast has become one with the proud boasts of ancient "Nineveh and Tyre."

In his remarkable book, End of Empire, Brian Lapping wrote:

"Until 1947 -- within the lifetime of half the world's population -- the Government of London ruled more land and people than any other government in history. In the thirty-three years between India's independence in 1947 and Southern Rhodesia's in 1980 the British Empire ended. . . . After 1980 the dozen territories that remained British -- Hong Kong, Gibraltar and a scatter of tiny islands -- were no longer an empire, merely the left-overs. Relative to its size, no great ship ever sank so quickly" (p.xiv).

Lapping points out that it was the Second World War and its enormous cost that compelled Britain to mortgage a large part of its worldwide imperial assets, in order to fight single-handedly from 1939 to 1941, carrying on the brunt of the war against Hitler during that time, that were "the principal reasons why the British Empire ended so much more quickly than anyone expected" (p.8). The push for democracy and independence around the world, following World War II, was also largely responsible. In the Middle East, the British did not give up the trappings of imperial policy easily, or cheerfully. Says Lapping:

"The British in the Middle East, it was said, never saw the handwriting on the wall until they hit their heads against it" (p.10).

After the fall of Singapore to the Japanese in World War II in 1942, New Zealand and Australia no longer looked to the British for military aid or presence; they began to look to the United States as their principal ally. During the postwar years, the United States in its desire to contain Communism, "wanted a junior partner to share the role of world policeman" (p.11). Britain, of course, was the logical choice. Today, however, the role of "world policeman" is considered too big a role for the United States and its allies to fulfill. More and more, modern nations including the United States appear to be willing to look to the United Nations as a final arbiter in the affairs of nations.

Since the end of the British Empire, the mantle of world leadership has swung to the younger brother of Joseph's sons -- Ephraim, or America. Whereas England was the dominant power in the nineteenth century, the United States surpassed every nation in power and prestige, authority and economic prosperity, during the twentieth century.

America in the 20th Century

Today, the economy of the United States is a vast, unbelievable $7 trillion a year gross national product. In 1974 the U.S. gross domestic product was about $1 trillion -- just one seventh of its current size.

Today, with the fall and collapse of the Soviet Union, the United States is the world's sole remaining true "superpower." But signs of America's potential strength began to be seen during World Wars I and II. In World War I, the world was saved from disaster by American intervention. Writes Alistair Cooke in his monumental book America:

"It is true that the Allies could not have defeated the Central Powers without the intervention of the United States in the last eighteen months of a war which was to record an atrocious pile of casualties: more than half of Russia's mobilized 12 million were killed or wounded; 5 1/2 million of France's 8 million; more than a third of the 9 million recruited by the British Empire and Commonwealth; 1 1/2 million of Italy's 5 1/2 million. When a whole generation of Europeans was maimed and faint with exhaustion, the United States had sent into the battle- fields two million brash and lusty young men. American industry, already geared to a scale of productivity that Europeans could hardly grasp, poured arms and materiel across the Atlantic" (p.303).

Before the beginning of World War II, the United States produced about one third of the world's manufactured goods. That was more than double the production of Germany, and ten times the production of Japan, or roughly five times the combined production of Germany and Japan put together. When the Axis powers were defeated in 1945, the manufacturing production of the United States stood at over HALF of the world's total manufacturing output! This proportion of dominance has never before in history been obtained by a single nation or empire -- not even the Roman Empire, or the British Empire, at their peaks.

In the book 200 Years, produced by the editors of U.S. News and World Report, celebrating America's proud bicentennial history from 1776 to 1976, we read that in the fateful year of D-Day, and the invasion of Normandy and "Fortress Europa," that U.S. manufacturing production in 1944 was staggering to the human imagination:

"In preparation for an all-out assault on Hitler's Europe, American industry poured forth an astonishing quantity of planes, tanks, ships, guns and ammunition -- more than double the Axis powers' production in 1944. Companies that in peacetime had produced Kodaks and Quaker Oats operated plants turning out bombs and shells. More than half the workers in war plants were women, many of whom had never held jobs before. . . .

"Working night and day and using prefabricated sections, a shipyard turned out cargo ships in 17 days. On the assembly lines, women waged war on Hitler and Tojo with acelylene torches. Boeing's Seattle plant rolled out its last B-17 in April, 1945. . . Wartime America produced nearly 300,000 aircraft, 87,000 tanks, 320,000 artillery pieces, 12,000 war and cargo ships, 65,000 landing craft, plus 42 billion bullets" (p.186-187).

Because of the arming of the allied forces by America, the "Arsenal of Democracy," when the invasion of Normandy, D-Day, June 6, 1944, finally arrived, the German troops were astonished to see the fruits of years of Allied planning. Say the authors of 200 Years:

"The gray, hazy dawn revealed calm seas in the Channel; the meteorologists had been right. In their coastal emplacements German troops stared in stunned silence at the sight revealed to them -- a parorama of ships spreading solidly, without a break, across the horizon. The armada totalled nearly 5,000 vessels, 900 of them warships, carrying 174,000 troops and over 20,000 vehicles" (p.288).

Never in the history of all mankind had such an armada been assembled. By contrast, the fateful battle of Midway, in the Pacific, involved a relatively modest 26 U.S. ships, and 125 Japanese vessels. The ships of the assembled armada on D-Day, June 6, 1944, by contrast seemed to fill the ocean, stretching all across the horizon -- the vast majority of them built and produced in America! By the end of what Field Marshall Irwin Rommel had prophetically called "the longest day," as darkness fell and reinforcements continued to pour in, the Allies had successfully breached Adolf Hitler's "Atlantic Wall."

The toughest fighting was at a beach code-named Omaha, a narrow beach tangled up with concrete and steel obstacles, barbed wire, backed up by bluffs honeycombed with pillboxes and bunkers hiding artillery and machine guns which commanded every approach and every inch of the beach. For the American soldiers, it was like "entering the mouth of hell; two-thirds of the first wave was shot down in the surf" (p.189). Things looked so bad that for a time the high command debated evacuating the beach. But here and there, a handful of men began creeping forward to get at their tormentors. "They're murdering us here! Let's move inland and get murdered!" yelled one officer. "Get your ass up that hill," a sergeant bellowed at every soldier he saw. Some 2,500 men died on that beach that day, but the Allies secured their primary objectives.

Writes historian S.L.A. Marshall, "one of the 47 immortals of Omaha" was Lieutenant Walter Taylor who led his men crawling over the beach and seawall, and straight up the bluff. In a two-hour fire-fight they whipped a German platoon without losing a man. They advanced nearly one half mile ahead of anyone else in the American army. "We saw no sign of fear in him," said Staff Sergeant Frank Price later. "Marching or fighting, he was leading. We followed him because there was nothing else to do." Says historian Marshall, "The high ground was won by a handful of men like Taylor who on that day burned with a flame bright beyond common understanding" (p.191-193).

There is no doubt about it. The United States of America is by far the greatest nation, economic superpower, and military superpower, on the face of the earth, today. What is little realized is that this greatness was prophesied to the youngest son of Joseph, the oldest son of Jacob by his wife Rachel. Jacob foretold, of the oldest son of Joseph, Manasseh: "He also shall become a people [United Kingdom], and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother [Ephraim] shall be GREATER than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of goyim [Hebrew, plural, #1471 in Gesenius' Hebrew-Chalee Lexicon to the Old Testament, meaning "peoples" -- political entities such as states or nations] . . ." (Gen.48:19).

The United States -- a union of fifty individual political divisions or "states" each with its own state constitution -- fulfills this prophecy to a "T." Fifty is indeed a "multitude" of states, or political divisions or entities. Furthermore, no nation in history has so many divergent "peoples" of different nationalities, races, ethnic backgrounds, as the United States of America -- so much racial and ethnic "diversity." Truly, YEHOVAH God has blessed America!



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Prophecy fulfilled.
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What do the rest of you think about all of this?
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Come on let's raise up the banner!Let's get the show on the road, This guy must be Elijah ,so the messiah is'nt far behind! 5a
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For those of you who don't believe that Ephraim (the 10 lost tribes of Israel) exist today, then I would love to hear how you think the prophecies of Ezekiel 37 will be fulfilled.
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For those of you who don't believe that Ephraim (the 10 lost tribes of Israel) exist today, then I would love to hear how you think the prophecies of Ezekiel 37 will be fulfilled.
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Maybe they won't.
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I have no clue, but I recently had this weird dream:

Thread: Dreaming Star of David

In the dream I was wearing a large star of david on my clothes and as a necklace, I met what seemed to be 2 rabbis, ate fish with them and started talking about some religious stuff. I have no idea why I dreamt this.
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[link to www.jpost.com]

The House of Judah is awakening that the Christians are possibly the Lost Tribes Israel. See recent article in Jerusalem Post.

[link to www.jpost.com]
"The righteous shall flourish like the palm tree:" Psalms 92:12
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[link to www.jpost.com]

The House of Judah is awakening that the Christians are possibly the Lost Tribes Israel. See recent article in Jerusalem Post.

[link to www.jpost.com]
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Very interesting Tirzah
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[link to www.jpost.com]

The House of Judah is awakening that the Christians are possibly the Lost Tribes Israel. See recent article in Jerusalem Post.

[link to www.jpost.com]

Very interesting Tirzah
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Thanks for the bump. Once Christians who are named
"Notzrim" in modern Hebrew realize who they are descendant from the Northern Kingdom then a great awakening will occur. It's already begun. They are the Wild Olive Branches that were grafted into the Olive tree.
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Can someone imbed this youtube for me.
"The righteous shall flourish like the palm tree:" Psalms 92:12
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Jeremiah 31:6-40
For there shall be a day, [that] the watchmen upon the mount Ephraim shall cry, Arise ye, and let us go up to Zion unto the YHWH our Elohim.

The word Watchmen here in Hebrew is Notzrim. The same exact word in Modern Hebrew for Christians. If you want to be truly blessed read the entire chapter of Jeremiah 31.
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The House of Judah is awakening that the Christians are possibly the Lost Tribes Israel. See recent article in Jerusalem Post.

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Jesus fulfilled those prophecies.

And if you don't think so.....How do you detect if you are one these "lost tribes"? Are you telling me that after 2,000 years, we are able to detect which of us has the blood of people who lived 2,000 years ago?? That's the WHOLE point of Jesus. No special blood required to be a "chosen" one. If you are His today....you ARE a part of Jesus's tribe. He bought us with His blood.
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Jesus fulfilled those prophecies.

And if you don't think so.....How do you detect if you are one these "lost tribes"? Are you telling me that after 2,000 years, we are able to detect which of us has the blood of people who lived 2,000 years ago?? That's the WHOLE point of Jesus. No special blood required to be a "chosen" one. If you are His today....you ARE a part of Jesus's tribe. He bought us with His blood.
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AC:
I'm sorry but you're ignorant not knowing the scriptures.
The Jewish Messiah "Yehoshua sent his twelve diciples to the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel (The Northern Kingdom) who were still scattered in the area where the Assyrians had taken them captive. These diciples preached repentance to these lost sheep and many recieved the Gospel message. Thus the 7 churches of Asia Minor were born. Peter never went to Rome as the Catholic church preaches thus he was not the First Pope. He obeyed the voice of Yehoshua and went to the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel.

Matthew 10:5-6
5.These twelve Yehoshua sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:

6. But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.



Jeremiah 50:6 "My people have been lost sheep; their shepherds have led them astray and caused them to roam on the mountains. They wandered over mountain and hill and forgot their own resting place.
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Ezekiel 34:4 You have not strengthened the weak or healed the sick or bound up the injured. You have not brought back the strays or searched for the lost. You have ruled them harshly and brutally.
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Matthew 15:24 He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel."
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Jesus fulfilled those prophecies.

And if you don't think so.....How do you detect if you are one these "lost tribes"? Are you telling me that after 2,000 years, we are able to detect which of us has the blood of people who lived 2,000 years ago?? That's the WHOLE point of Jesus. No special blood required to be a "chosen" one. If you are His today....you ARE a part of Jesus's tribe. He bought us with His blood.

AC:
I'm sorry but you're ignorant not knowing the scriptures.
The Jewish Messiah "Yehoshua sent his twelve diciples to the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel (The Northern Kingdom) who were still scattered in the area where the Assyrians had taken them captive. These diciples preached repentance to these lost sheep and many recieved the Gospel message. Thus the 7 churches of Asia Minor were born. Peter never went to Rome as the Catholic church preaches thus he was not the First Pope. He obeyed the voice of Yehoshua and went to the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel.

Matthew 10:5-6
5.These twelve Yehoshua sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:

6. But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.



Jeremiah 50:6 "My people have been lost sheep; their shepherds have led them astray and caused them to roam on the mountains. They wandered over mountain and hill and forgot their own resting place.
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Ezekiel 34:4 You have not strengthened the weak or healed the sick or bound up the injured. You have not brought back the strays or searched for the lost. You have ruled them harshly and brutally.
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Matthew 15:24 He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel."
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So what are you saying? That Gentiles are not part of Israel??
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Jesus fulfilled those prophecies.

And if you don't think so.....How do you detect if you are one these "lost tribes"? Are you telling me that after 2,000 years, we are able to detect which of us has the blood of people who lived 2,000 years ago?? That's the WHOLE point of Jesus. No special blood required to be a "chosen" one. If you are His today....you ARE a part of Jesus's tribe. He bought us with His blood.

AC:
I'm sorry but you're ignorant not knowing the scriptures.
The Jewish Messiah "Yehoshua sent his twelve diciples to the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel (The Northern Kingdom) who were still scattered in the area where the Assyrians had taken them captive. These diciples preached repentance to these lost sheep and many recieved the Gospel message. Thus the 7 churches of Asia Minor were born. Peter never went to Rome as the Catholic church preaches thus he was not the First Pope. He obeyed the voice of

So what are you saying? That Gentiles are not part of Israel??
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Yes the Gentiles who have accepted the Messiah are part of Israel. But you must remember there is a counterfeit of Israel who which is Babylon (Rome). They preach a counterfeit Messiah based upon Paganism. There is a True Israel and a False Israel.
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Jesus fulfilled those prophecies.

And if you don't think so.....How do you detect if you are one these "lost tribes"? Are you telling me that after 2,000 years, we are able to detect which of us has the blood of people who lived 2,000 years ago?? That's the WHOLE point of Jesus. No special blood required to be a "chosen" one. If you are His today....you ARE a part of Jesus's tribe. He bought us with His blood.

AC:
I'm sorry but you're ignorant not knowing the scriptures.
The Jewish Messiah "Yehoshua sent his twelve diciples to the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel (The Northern Kingdom) who were still scattered in the area where the Assyrians had taken them captive. These diciples preached repentance to these lost sheep and many recieved the Gospel message. Thus the 7 churches of Asia Minor were born. Peter never went to Rome as the Catholic church preaches thus he was not the First Pope. He obeyed the voice of

So what are you saying? That Gentiles are not part of Israel??

Yes the Gentiles who have accepted the Messiah are part of Israel. But you must remember there is a counterfeit of Israel who which is Babylon (Rome). They preach a counterfeit Messiah based upon Paganism. There is a True Israel and a False Israel.
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Then what is your point?? We are talking about whether or not there are "lost tribes". Not Babylon or Rome. I said that blood matters not, like it did when there was people of tribes. There are no tribes based on blood. Only ONE tribe that is made up of believers of any culture or race. How can you be a Christian and disagree with that?
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Ephraim is defined in one of your references, specifically Eze.37 and it includes all the dead going back to Jacob and Israel. All of Jer.31 speaks of that return and these two references mean the 'land of the enemy' is death. Lots of things have to be fulfilled before even one person is resurrected from the grave.

Jer:31:15
Thus saith the LORD;
A voice was heard in Ramah,
lamentation,
and bitter weeping;
Rahel weeping for her children refused to be comforted for her children,
because they were not.
Jer.31:16
Thus saith the LORD;
Refrain thy voice from weeping,
and thine eyes from tears:
for thy work shall be rewarded,
saith the LORD;
and they shall come again from the land of the enemy.
Jer.31:17
And there is hope in thine end,
saith the LORD,
that thy children shall come again to their own border.


M't.2:16
Then Herod,
when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men,
was exceeding wroth,
and sent forth,
and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem,
and in all the coasts thereof,
from two years old and under,
according to the time which he had diligently enquired of the wise men.
M't.2:17
Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet,
saying,
M't.2:18
In Rama was there a voice heard,
lamentation,
nd weeping,
and great mourning,
Rachel weeping for her children,
and would not be comforted, because they are not.
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Ephraim is defined in one of your references, specifically Eze.37 and it includes all the dead going back to Jacob and Israel. All of Jer.31 speaks of that return and these two references mean the 'land of the enemy' is death. Lots of things have to be fulfilled before even one person is resurrected from the grave.

Jer:31:15
Thus saith the LORD;
A voice was heard in Ramah,
lamentation,
and bitter weeping;
Rahel weeping for her children refused to be comforted for her children,
because they were not.
Jer.31:16
Thus saith the LORD;
Refrain thy voice from weeping,
and thine eyes from tears:
for thy work shall be rewarded,
saith the LORD;
and they shall come again from the land of the enemy.
Jer.31:17
And there is hope in thine end,
saith the LORD,
that thy children shall come again to their own border.


M't.2:16
Then Herod,
when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men,
was exceeding wroth,
and sent forth,
and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem,
and in all the coasts thereof,
from two years old and under,
according to the time which he had diligently enquired of the wise men.
M't.2:17
Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet,
saying,
M't.2:18
In Rama was there a voice heard,
lamentation,
nd weeping,
and great mourning,
Rachel weeping for her children,
and would not be comforted, because they are not.
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What graves?? Where are the graves of the people who lived during the time of Jesus? Where are the disciples graves? Are you saying there is NO one in Heaven right now?
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Ephraim and Mannaseh, equal heirs of their father Joseph,
of the twelve tribes, are not lost.

Judah is not lost.

The rest are the lost tribes. Reuben, Simeon, Levi,
Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Issachar, Zebulon, Benjamin
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Yes the Gentiles who have accepted the Messiah are part of Israel. But you must remember there is a counterfeit of Israel who which is Babylon (Rome). They preach a counterfeit Messiah based upon Paganism. There is a True Israel and a False Israel.
 Quoting: Tirzah

Don't you mean anybody from the 12 Tribes that accepts Jesus as the Messiah becomes part of the 'Church?

Why would a Gentile want to set themselves up for a fate that is determined for the 12 Tribes alone?

Eze.6:8
Yet will I leave a remnant,
that ye may have some that shall escape the sword among the nations,
when ye shall be scattered through the countries.


Eze.39:22
So the house of Israel shall know that I am the LORD their God from that day and forward.
Eze.39:23
And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity:
because they trespassed against me,
therefore hid I my face from them,
and gave them into the hand of their enemies:
so fell they all by the sword.
Eze.39:24
According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them,
and hid my face from them.

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