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Ephraim Come Home! Are You Part Of The 10 Lost Tribes Of Israel?

 
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Jesus fulfilled those prophecies.

And if you don't think so.....How do you detect if you are one these "lost tribes"? Are you telling me that after 2,000 years, we are able to detect which of us has the blood of people who lived 2,000 years ago?? That's the WHOLE point of Jesus. No special blood required to be a "chosen" one. If you are His today....you ARE a part of Jesus's tribe. He bought us with His blood.

AC:
I'm sorry but you're ignorant not knowing the scriptures.
The Jewish Messiah "Yehoshua sent his twelve diciples to the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel (The Northern Kingdom) who were still scattered in the area where the Assyrians had taken them captive. These diciples preached repentance to these lost sheep and many recieved the Gospel message. Thus the 7 churches of Asia Minor were born. Peter never went to Rome as the Catholic church preaches thus he was not the First Pope. He obeyed the voice of

So what are you saying? That Gentiles are not part of Israel??

Yes the Gentiles who have accepted the Messiah are part of Israel. But you must remember there is a counterfeit of Israel who which is Babylon (Rome). They preach a counterfeit Messiah based upon Paganism. There is a True Israel and a False Israel.


Then what is your point?? We are talking about whether or not there are "lost tribes". Not Babylon or Rome. I said that blood matters not, like it did when there was people of tribes. There are no tribes based on blood. Only ONE tribe that is made up of believers of any culture or race. How can you be a Christian and disagree with that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 837703

Our Savior deemed those who descended from the original House of Israel important otherwise why would he have commissioned His Twelve Disciples to go find these scattered sheep and tell them the Good News of the Kingdom.
Our blood contains the Soul. "For the Soul of the Flesh is in the Blood".
"The righteous shall flourish like the palm tree:" Psalms 92:12
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Jesus fulfilled those prophecies.

And if you don't think so.....How do you detect if you are one these "lost tribes"? Are you telling me that after 2,000 years, we are able to detect which of us has the blood of people who lived 2,000 years ago?? That's the WHOLE point of Jesus. No special blood required to be a "chosen" one. If you are His today....you ARE a part of Jesus's tribe. He bought us with His blood.

AC:
I'm sorry but you're ignorant not knowing the scriptures.
The Jewish Messiah "Yehoshua sent his twelve diciples to the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel (The Northern Kingdom) who were still scattered in the area where the Assyrians had taken them captive. These diciples preached repentance to these lost sheep and many recieved the Gospel message. Thus the 7 churches of Asia Minor were born. Peter never went to Rome as the Catholic church preaches thus he was not the First Pope. He obeyed the voice of

So what are you saying? That Gentiles are not part of Israel??

Yes the Gentiles who have accepted the Messiah are part of Israel. But you must remember there is a counterfeit of Israel who which is Babylon (Rome). They preach a counterfeit Messiah based upon Paganism. There is a True Israel and a False Israel.


Then what is your point?? We are talking about whether or not there are "lost tribes". Not Babylon or Rome. I said that blood matters not, like it did when there was people of tribes. There are no tribes based on blood. Only ONE tribe that is made up of believers of any culture or race. How can you be a Christian and disagree with that?

Our Savior deemed those who descended from the original House of Israel important otherwise why would he have commissioned His Twelve Disciples to go find these scattered sheep and tell them the Good News of the Kingdom.
Our blood contains the Soul. "For the Soul of the Flesh is in the Blood".
 Quoting: Tirzah


So, how much "original" blood does it take to be one? 5% 25% 50%? How much do you have? Which tribe are you from?
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...Jer. 31:9-10, the Israel which is located in the Isles is none other than Ephraim, the Abrahamic Birthright People, of whom the Lord says: "I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my first born."

Ephraim, as we have shown, was the second son of Joseph. But when the birthright blessing was given to Joseph in his sons, Ephraim, the younger, was set be­fore Manasseh, the elder. They were to remain together, however, until they grew into a multitude in the midst of the earth. After that they were to sep­arate; then Manasseh was to become a "great" people, or nation, and Ephraim was to become "a multitude, or company of nations."



Excellent resource:

[link to reluctant-messenger.com]



The 13th tribe is actually Manasseh, which is the US. Ephraim, declared as the "first born" makes him the patriarch 12th tribe because the Levites have no inheritance in this world.
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Yes the Gentiles who have accepted the Messiah are part of Israel. But you must remember there is a counterfeit of Israel who which is Babylon (Rome). They preach a counterfeit Messiah based upon Paganism. There is a True Israel and a False Israel.

Don't you mean anybody from the 12 Tribes that accepts Jesus as the Messiah becomes part of the 'Church?

Why would a Gentile want to set themselves up for a fate that is determined for the 12 Tribes alone?

Eze.6:8
Yet will I leave a remnant,
that ye may have some that shall escape the sword among the nations,
when ye shall be scattered through the countries.


Eze.39:22
So the house of Israel shall know that I am the LORD their God from that day and forward.
Eze.39:23
And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity:
because they trespassed against me,
therefore hid I my face from them,
and gave them into the hand of their enemies:
so fell they all by the sword.
Eze.39:24
According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them,
and hid my face from them.
 Quoting: MHz

True, He hid His Face from the HOuse of Jacob. Until Jacob wrestled at Peniel (Face of Eloah) and recieved a revelation of whom he had been wrestling was his Name changed to Israel.

Israel makes up those who understand who the Face of Eloah is.

14.And he shall be for a sanctuary; but for a stone of stumbling and for a rock of offence to both the houses of Israel, for a gin and for a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem.

15And many among them shall stumble, and fall, and be broken, and be snared, and be taken.

16.Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples. 17.And I will wait upon the YHWH, that hideth his face from the house of Jacob, and I will look for him. 18Behold, I and the children whom the LORD hath given me are for signs and for wonders in Israel from the YHWH of hosts, which dwelleth in mount Zion.

19And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead?
20.To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. Yehoshua was the Testimony of the Law (Torah)
"The righteous shall flourish like the palm tree:" Psalms 92:12
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Jesus fulfilled those prophecies.

And if you don't think so.....How do you detect if you are one these "lost tribes"? Are you telling me that after 2,000 years, we are able to detect which of us has the blood of people who lived 2,000 years ago?? That's the WHOLE point of Jesus. No special blood required to be a "chosen" one. If you are His today....you ARE a part of Jesus's tribe. He bought us with His blood.

AC:
I'm sorry but you're ignorant not knowing the scriptures.
The Jewish Messiah "Yehoshua sent his twelve diciples to the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel (The Northern Kingdom) who were still scattered in the area where the Assyrians had taken them captive. These diciples preached repentance to these lost sheep and many recieved the Gospel message. Thus the 7 churches of Asia Minor were born. Peter never went to Rome as the Catholic church preaches thus he was not the First Pope. He obeyed the voice of

So what are you saying? That Gentiles are not part of Israel??

Yes the Gentiles who have accepted the Messiah are part of Israel. But you must remember there is a counterfeit of Israel who which is Babylon (Rome). They preach a counterfeit Messiah based upon Paganism. There is a True Israel and a False Israel.


Then what is your point?? We are talking about whether or not there are "lost tribes". Not Babylon or Rome. I said that blood matters not, like it did when there was people of tribes. There are no tribes based on blood. Only ONE tribe that is made up of believers of any culture or race. How can you be a Christian and disagree with that?

Our Savior deemed those who descended from the original House of Israel important otherwise why would he have commissioned His Twelve Disciples to go find these scattered sheep and tell them the Good News of the Kingdom.
Our blood contains the Soul. "For the Soul of the Flesh is in the Blood".


So, how much "original" blood does it take to be one? 5% 25% 50%? How much do you have? Which tribe are you from?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 837703

Sir/Ma'am,
If you're one of His Sheep you will hear His voice.
John 10:27
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
Yehoshua knows which tribe we descended from and he will reveal this to you if you desire to know. Yes I know from which tribe I descended.
There are also wolves who have come into the Flock dressed in sheeps clothing to deceive. So you are either a sheep or a wolf.
"The righteous shall flourish like the palm tree:" Psalms 92:12
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What graves?? Where are the graves of the people who lived during the time of Jesus? Where are the disciples graves? Are you saying there is NO one in Heaven right now?
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Grave means death, at the moment Jesus gave up the Holy Ghost on the cross He was in the grave.
The only part of a living soul that gets to go to Heaven is explained in a verse below.

Ge.2:7
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground,
and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life;
and man became a living soul.

Ec.3:20
All go unto one place;
all are of the dust,
and all turn to dust again.
Ec.12:7
Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was:
and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

Job was well-liked by God so if anybody was going to Heaven he would be. As he puts it he will be in the grave asleep until he is called out from that place. The time for that is the 7th trump, the timing is given in Re.11 and the 'method' is given in Re.10.


Job.14:10
But man dieth,
and wasteth away:
yea,
man giveth up the ghost,
and where is he?
Job.14:11
As the waters fail from the sea,
and the flood decayeth and drieth up:
Job.14:12
So man lieth down,
and riseth not:
till the heavens be no more,
they shall not awake,
nor be raised out of their sleep.
Job.14:13
O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave,
that thou wouldest keep me secret,
until thy wrath be past,
that thou wouldest appoint me a set time,
and remember me!
Job.14:14
If a man die,
shall he live again?
all the days of my appointed time will I wait,
till my change come.
Job.14:15
Thou shalt call,
and I will answer thee:
thou wilt have a desire to the work of thine hands.
Job.14:16
For now thou numberest my steps:
dost thou not watch over my sin?
Job.14:17
My transgression is sealed up in a bag,
and thou sewest up mine iniquity.
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So, how much "original" blood does it take to be one? 5% 25% 50%? How much do you have? Which tribe are you from?
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Not much if this woman is correct.

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So, how much "original" blood does it take to be one? 5% 25% 50%? How much do you have? Which tribe are you from?
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If you become grafted into the true Olive Tree, no matter what nation you come from, you become a member of the Commonwealth of Israel...your acceptance and belief in Messiah and obedience to God's laws places you in the Body...whatever tribe you will be absorbed in to will come when Messiah rules.

Apparently it will become important at the time of the coming of the New Jerusalem, since there are 12 gates, one for each tribe, and each tribe will enter in their own gate, only--the mirror image of the tribes when they were encamped in the wilderness.

While I agree with the 'two house', 'two sticks in His hand', I reject that you must have hebrew blood from one of the tribes to be accepted. A mixed multitude came out with Israel from Egypt, and many sojourners from other nations entered Israel and became citizens.

Acceptance comes from the heart, from obedience and not the bloodline.
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Jesus fulfilled those prophecies.

And if you don't think so.....How do you detect if you are one these "lost tribes"? Are you telling me that after 2,000 years, we are able to detect which of us has the blood of people who lived 2,000 years ago?? That's the WHOLE point of Jesus. No special blood required to be a "chosen" one. If you are His today....you ARE a part of Jesus's tribe. He bought us with His blood.

AC:
I'm sorry but you're ignorant not knowing the scriptures.
The Jewish Messiah "Yehoshua sent his twelve diciples to the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel (The Northern Kingdom) who were still scattered in the area where the Assyrians had taken them captive. These diciples preached repentance to these lost sheep and many recieved the Gospel message. Thus the 7 churches of Asia Minor were born. Peter never went to Rome as the Catholic church preaches thus he was not the First Pope. He obeyed the voice of

So what are you saying? That Gentiles are not part of Israel??

Yes the Gentiles who have accepted the Messiah are part of Israel. But you must remember there is a counterfeit of Israel who which is Babylon (Rome). They preach a counterfeit Messiah based upon Paganism. There is a True Israel and a False Israel.


Then what is your point?? We are talking about whether or not there are "lost tribes". Not Babylon or Rome. I said that blood matters not, like it did when there was people of tribes. There are no tribes based on blood. Only ONE tribe that is made up of believers of any culture or race. How can you be a Christian and disagree with that?

Our Savior deemed those who descended from the original House of Israel important otherwise why would he have commissioned His Twelve Disciples to go find these scattered sheep and tell them the Good News of the Kingdom.
Our blood contains the Soul. "For the Soul of the Flesh is in the Blood".


So, how much "original" blood does it take to be one? 5% 25% 50%? How much do you have? Which tribe are you from?

Sir/Ma'am,
If you're one of His Sheep you will hear His voice.
John 10:27
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
Yehoshua knows which tribe we descended from and he will reveal this to you if you desire to know. Yes I know from which tribe I descended.
There are also wolves who have come into the Flock dressed in sheeps clothing to deceive. So you are either a sheep or a wolf.
 Quoting: Tirzah


So you hear a different voice than everyone else? I heard His voice the day I accepted Him as the Messiah and I hear Him as I pray. Do you hear something different than that? Did He tell you which "tribe" you were from? It's kinda funny that the people of the tribes of the Bible knew EXACTLY who they were. Yet, supposedly the "tribes" of today do not.

So again, I ask you. What does it take to be one? How much "pure" blood does it take? 5%-15%-50%?? And what blood test does one take to determine that?
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Jesus fulfilled those prophecies.

And if you don't think so.....How do you detect if you are one these "lost tribes"? Are you telling me that after 2,000 years, we are able to detect which of us has the blood of people who lived 2,000 years ago?? That's the WHOLE point of Jesus. No special blood required to be a "chosen" one. If you are His today....you ARE a part of Jesus's tribe. He bought us with His blood.

AC:
I'm sorry but you're ignorant not knowing the scriptures.
The Jewish Messiah "Yehoshua sent his twelve diciples to the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel (The Northern Kingdom) who were still scattered in the area where the Assyrians had taken them captive. These diciples preached repentance to these lost sheep and many recieved the Gospel message. Thus the 7 churches of Asia Minor were born. Peter never went to Rome as the Catholic church preaches thus he was not the First Pope. He obeyed the voice of

So what are you saying? That Gentiles are not part of Israel??

Yes the Gentiles who have accepted the Messiah are part of Israel. But you must remember there is a counterfeit of Israel who which is Babylon (Rome). They preach a counterfeit Messiah based upon Paganism. There is a True Israel and a False Israel.


Then what is your point?? We are talking about whether or not there are "lost tribes". Not Babylon or Rome. I said that blood matters not, like it did when there was people of tribes. There are no tribes based on blood. Only ONE tribe that is made up of believers of any culture or race. How can you be a Christian and disagree with that?

Our Savior deemed those who descended from the original House of Israel important otherwise why would he have commissioned His Twelve Disciples to go find these scattered sheep and tell them the Good News of the Kingdom.
Our blood contains the Soul. "For the Soul of the Flesh is in the Blood".


So, how much "original" blood does it take to be one? 5% 25% 50%? How much do you have? Which tribe are you from?

Sir/Ma'am,
If you're one of His Sheep you will hear His voice.
John 10:27
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
Yehoshua knows which tribe we descended from and he will reveal this to you if you desire to know. Yes I know from which tribe I descended.
There are also wolves who have come into the Flock dressed in sheeps clothing to deceive. So you are either a sheep or a wolf.


So you hear a different voice than everyone else? I heard His voice the day I accepted Him as the Messiah and I hear Him as I pray. Do you hear something different than that? Did He tell you which "tribe" you were from? It's kinda funny that the people of the tribes of the Bible knew EXACTLY who they were. Yet, supposedly the "tribes" of today do not.

So again, I ask you. What does it take to be one? How much "pure" blood does it take? 5%-15%-50%?? And what blood test does one take to determine that?
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Read the reply above your own. Thank you czygyny

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"The righteous shall flourish like the palm tree:" Psalms 92:12
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So, how much "original" blood does it take to be one? 5% 25% 50%? How much do you have? Which tribe are you from?



If you become grafted into the true Olive Tree, no matter what nation you come from, you become a member of the Commonwealth of Israel...your acceptance and belief in Messiah and obedience to God's laws places you in the Body...whatever tribe you will be absorbed in to will come when Messiah rules.

Apparently it will become important at the time of the coming of the New Jerusalem, since there are 12 gates, one for each tribe, and each tribe will enter in their own gate, only--the mirror image of the tribes when they were encamped in the wilderness.

While I agree with the 'two house', 'two sticks in His hand', I reject that you must have hebrew blood from one of the tribes to be accepted. A mixed multitude came out with Israel from Egypt, and many sojourners from other nations entered Israel and became citizens.

Acceptance comes from the heart, from obedience and not the bloodline.
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oops sorry I mistyped your "handle".
"The righteous shall flourish like the palm tree:" Psalms 92:12
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True, He hid His Face from the HOuse of Jacob. Until Jacob wrestled at Peniel (Face of Eloah) and recieved a revelation of whom he had been wrestling was his Name changed to Israel.
 Quoting: Tirzah

If you read all of Eze.39 it is quite clear the 'time' being referenced vis the 2nd return which is the 7th trump of Revelation. That there are still ant sinners at all in the world is proof that the chapter is speaking of events still in our future.

Eze.39:6
And I will send a fire on Magog,
and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles:
and they shall know that I am the LORD.

Israel makes up those who understand who the Face of Eloah is.

14.And he shall be for a sanctuary; but for a stone of stumbling and for a rock of offence to both the houses of Israel, for a gin and for a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem.
 Quoting: Tirzah

Really, anybody who survives that first day will see Christ's face on that day. (as described in Re.1) (in that the one mentioned is the Messiah). Even they do not get to see Almighty God's face until after the 1,000 years is over and Satan and Co. are all in the Lake

Re.22:4
And they shall see his face;
and his name shall be in their foreheads.
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I am from the Tribe of Judah or Tribe of Dan.

hf
Marcus 11: 22 And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God.
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True, He hid His Face from the HOuse of Jacob. Until Jacob wrestled at Peniel (Face of Eloah) and recieved a revelation of whom he had been wrestling was his Name changed to Israel.
If you read all of Eze.39 it is quite clear the 'time' being referenced vis the 2nd return which is the 7th trump of Revelation. That there are still ant sinners at all in the world is proof that the chapter is speaking of events still in our future.

Eze.39:6
And I will send a fire on Magog,
and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles:
and they shall know that I am the LORD.


Israel makes up those who understand who the Face of Eloah is.

14.And he shall be for a sanctuary; but for a stone of stumbling and for a rock of offence to both the houses of Israel, for a gin and for a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem.

Really, anybody who survives that first day will see Christ's face on that day. (as described in Re.1) (in that the one mentioned is the Messiah). Even they do not get to see Almighty God's face until after the 1,000 years is over and Satan and Co. are all in the Lake

Re.22:4
And they shall see his face;
and his name shall be in their foreheads.
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Interesting! thanks for those scriptures.
"The righteous shall flourish like the palm tree:" Psalms 92:12
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I am from the Tribe of Judah or Tribe of Dan.

hf
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hf
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If you become grafted into the true Olive Tree, no matter what nation you come from, you become a member of the Commonwealth of Israel.
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Not according to Scripture, everybody since the 'change' that came with Peter's vision that resulted in the Gospel being preached to the Gentiles means that every man/woman/child on earth since that event is part of this verse below. That also means the 7 letters that follow are to them and every relationship that God recognizes is contained in those letters. Like it or not that is how people will be sorted by God and by His Messiah when He returns. To remain alive means you will be from the 'over-comers'. If you have not repented your sins by the sound of the 7th trump you will die as part of the 2/3 of all of mankind that die on that very day.

Re.15:5
And after that I looked,
and,
behold,
the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was opened:
Re.15:6
And the seven angels came out of the temple,
having the seven plagues,
clothed in pure and white linen,
and having their breasts girded with golden girdles.
Re.15:7
And one of the four beasts gave unto the seven angels seven golden vials full of the wrath of God,
who liveth for ever and ever.
Re.15:8
And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God,
and from his power;
and no man was able to enter into the temple,
till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled.

For those final years you would seem to have two options, be chosen by God to be one of the 144,000 from the 12 Tribes (children in that they do not have any power from god to facilitate their own protection, rather it is the two witnesses that are Christ's power on earth at that time) or you can become a member of one of the Churches that is an 'over-comer' and that would be 1/3 of mankind, that would seem to give you the better chance of remaining alive during the trumps.
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If you become grafted into the true Olive Tree, no matter what nation you come from, you become a member of the Commonwealth of Israel.

Not according to Scripture, everybody since the 'change' that came with Peter's vision that resulted in the Gospel being preached to the Gentiles means that every man/woman/child on earth since that event is part of this verse below. That also means the 7 letters that follow are to them and every relationship that God recognizes is contained in those letters. Like it or not that is how people will be sorted by God and by His Messiah when He returns. To remain alive means you will be from the 'over-comers'. If you have not repented your sins by the sound of the 7th trump you will die as part of the 2/3 of all of mankind that die on that very day.

Re.15:5
And after that I looked,
and,
behold,
the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was opened:
Re.15:6
And the seven angels came out of the temple,
having the seven plagues,
clothed in pure and white linen,
and having their breasts girded with golden girdles.
Re.15:7
And one of the four beasts gave unto the seven angels seven golden vials full of the wrath of God,
who liveth for ever and ever.
Re.15:8
And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God,
and from his power;
and no man was able to enter into the temple,
till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled.

For those final years you would seem to have two options, be chosen by God to be one of the 144,000 from the 12 Tribes (children in that they do not have any power from god to facilitate their own protection, rather it is the two witnesses that are Christ's power on earth at that time) or you can become a member of one of the Churches that is an 'over-comer' and that would be 1/3 of mankind, that would seem to give you the better chance of remaining alive during the trumps.
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I will be proud to be called a member of 'His People' Israel over any watered down, false worship infused, lawless entity.

And who knows that he is not calling out His 144,000 right now by restoring His two Houses. I don't know. I heard the call, I answered, I followed, not that I consider myself a candidate for this special first-fruits group, but all the mismatched puzzle pieces I've just chocked up to a mystery are falling right into place by being obedient to His Scriptures, start to finish.

Admission into the olam-haba (the world to come) was a matter of faith and obedience before the cross, and it is a matter for our acceptance after the cross.

Remember, the overcomers will keep God's commandments *and* the testimony of Messiah, not just the 'testimony' only.
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And who knows that he is not calling out His 144,000 right now by restoring His two Houses. I don't know. I heard the call, I answered, I followed, not that I consider myself a candidate for this special first-fruits group, but all the mismatched puzzle pieces I've just chocked up to a mystery are falling right into place by being obedient to His Scriptures, start to finish.
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You seem to be getting sucked into the Rothschild version of Israel.

The Bible has Christ in physical control of the Holy Land by being there in person and His House of Prayer will be standing before anybody is 'invited' to be a resident. That same House is the one mentioned in the opening verse below. Please post a pic of said river and then I will consider the 'right now' part of your post. If you can't supply said pic then you have not one shred of proof.

Have you not heard that the dead in Christ will be gathered before the living? Look it up in the NT.

Eze.47:1
Afterward he brought me again unto the door of the house;
and,
behold,
waters issued out from under the threshold of the house eastward:
for the forefront of the house stood toward the east,
and the waters came down from under from the right side of the house,
at the south side of the altar.
Eze.47:2
Then brought he me out of the way of the gate northward,
and led me about the way without unto the utter gate by the way that looketh eastward;
and,
behold,
there ran out waters on the right side.
Eze.47:3
And when the man that had the line in his hand went forth eastward,
he measured a thousand cubits,
and he brought me through the waters;
the waters were to the ancles.
Eze.47:4
Again he measured a thousand,
and brought me through the waters;
the waters were to the knees.
Again he measured a thousand,
and brought me through;
the waters were to the loins.
Eze.47:5
Afterward he measured a thousand;
and it was a river that I could not pass over:
for the waters were risen,
waters to swim in,
a river that could not be passed over.
Eze.47:6
And he said unto me,
Son of man,
hast thou seen this?
Then he brought me,
and caused me to return to the brink of the river.
Eze.47:7
Now when I had returned,
behold,
at the bank of the river were very many trees on the one side and on the other.
Eze.47:8
Then said he unto me,
These waters issue out toward the east country,
and go down into the desert,
and go into the sea:
which being brought forth into the sea,
the waters shall be healed.
Eze.47:9
And it shall come to pass,
that every thing that liveth,
which moveth,
whithersoever the rivers shall come,
shall live:
and there shall be a very great multitude of fish,
because these waters shall come thither:
for they shall be healed;
and every thing shall live whither the river cometh.
Eze.47:10
And it shall come to pass,
that the fishers shall stand upon it from En-gedi even unto En-eglaim;
they shall be a place to spread forth nets;
their fish shall be according to their kinds,
as the fish of the great sea, exceeding many.
Eze.47:11
But the miry places thereof and the marishes thereof shall not be healed;
they shall be given to salt.
Eze.47:12
And by the river upon the bank thereof,
on this side and on that side,
shall grow all trees for meat,
whose leaf shall not fade,
neither shall the fruit thereof be consumed:
it shall bring forth new fruit according to his months,
because their waters they issued out of the sanctuary:
and the fruit thereof shall be for meat,
and the leaf thereof for medicine.


You will notice that Gentiles are included as also being gathered at the same time as the 144,000 and if you premise of the gathering has already started could hold any truth then you should also be able to admit that being in Judea does not mean a person has to be Jewish, just like the ones in this reference below.

The point is the dead have to be physically standing and breathing or it is a false 'gathering', plain and simple.
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You seem to be getting sucked into the Rothschild version of Israel.

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Rothschild has his apostate state of Israel.

As long as they (collectively) do not obey Torah nor accept Messiah, they are 'lo ammi', not His People.
Kletos, Eklektos & Pistos
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see www.etzyoseph.org
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I thought I was going crazy! I saw someone post this late last night, then I went back and couldn't find it! Were you the one who posted the link? Which thread was it?

I was reading this all morning...very intriguing to say the least!

Thank you hf!
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What do the rest of you think about all of this?
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I agree completely. I so wish to "come home" and I pray YHVH will allow that to be in His time for me, Bless His Holy Name.
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You seem to be getting sucked into the Rothschild version of Israel.

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Rothschild has his apostate state of Israel.

As long as they (collectively) do not obey Torah nor accept Messiah, they are 'lo ammi', not His People.
 Quoting: czygyny


Amen to that!
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I thought I was going crazy! I saw someone post this late last night, then I went back and couldn't find it! Were you the one who posted the link? Which thread was it?

I was reading this all morning...very intriguing to say the least!

Thank you hf!
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Got it thumbs!

Thread: The Lost Tribes of Israel Found? (Page 4)
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I am from the Tribe of Judah or Tribe of Dan.

hf
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I had a dream as a young girl that I was of the tribe of Gad. I remember vividly that I did not want "to go with them" but wanted to go with another tribe that I do not remember. I was ten or so at the time I had this dream.
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 Quoting: Mi'Kmaq


I thought I was going crazy! I saw someone post this late last night, then I went back and couldn't find it! Were you the one who posted the link? Which thread was it?

I was reading this all morning...very intriguing to say the least!

Thank you hf!
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Yes I am the one who posted , the song of our Genes is being heard,every where...............sheep
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 Quoting: Mi'Kmaq


I thought I was going crazy! I saw someone post this late last night, then I went back and couldn't find it! Were you the one who posted the link? Which thread was it?

I was reading this all morning...very intriguing to say the least!

Thank you hf!
 Quoting: BetteDavisEyes


Yes I am the one who posted , the song of our Genes is being heard,every where...............sheep
 Quoting: Mi'Kmaq


Please check out my dream thread when you get a chance!

hf


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