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I'm by no means, an authority of the Mayan calendar, but from my research, there are no prophecies that state the end date is to be cataclysmic.

Every previous age has ended in cataclysm.

From 13moon.com:
"In the perspective of the living Maya Timekeepers of Guatemala, calendrically speaking, each element has a 5,125 year cycle. They teach that we have been through fire, earth, air and water already. The next cycle (beginning Dec 21, 2012) will be ether - the Fifth Age - the Age of Center. Likewise, the Hopi teach we are closing the Fourth World of Destruction, and preparing to begin the Fifth World of Peace. "

Fire
Earth = EQ's volcanos, pole shift, etc
Air = Hurricanes, etc
Water - Tidal wave, flooding, etc..
Ether, as in ethereal, is our next stage of development.

The actual prophecies are based on the Mayan scriptures, e.g. the Popol Vuh (Mayan Creation Myth), the Chilam Balam and the Dresden codecies. There is no mention of 12/21/2012 being a day of cataclysm.

I agree with Grant's perception of collective consciousness making a positive difference. This is our "ace in the hole". My degrees (BA and MS) are in the science field which relies on empirical data to support any given hypothesis. I can't speak for everyone within this field but I've noticed a growing trend from those within the human sciences field and the medical field to privately and objectively "accept" theories that can't be tangibly proven, measured and validated, such as the Law of Attraction.

Collective consciousness would fall under this assumption.

I interviewed John Major Jenkins for an article on my website. Here are a couple of the questions I asked him:

QUESTION: The Mayan calendar remains somewhat ambiguous in regard to the existence of the beginning of another cycle following December 21, 2012. There are many interpretations of why the Mayans did not continue their calendar past the 2012 end date. Some people believe the cycle will start anew, while others believe we'll transcend beyond actual "time" and will not need a calendar system. What are your interpretations of what will happen to the Mayan calendar cycle after 12/21/2012?

JMJ: There really is no ambiguity; Mayan time philosophy ascribes to a cyclic view of time. The doctrine of World Ages in the Mayan Creation Myth (the Popol Vuh) provides parallel details on how the World Age calendar called the Long Count works. At the end of a cycle, transformation and renewal occur and thus we can expect that the day following 13.0.0.0.0 will be 0.0.0.0.1. This is a straightforward reading of the Mayan doctrine of time. The idea that “the calendar ends” is a modern sound byte that has only a distorted and superficial applicability to Mayan thought.

Question: Can we anticipate any physiological or metaphysical changes leading up to 12/21/2012, when the First Solar Lord (First Father) comes into union with the cosmic womb (Great Mother) of the Milky Way Galaxy?

JMJ: This is a very complex question and I’ve addressed it in my several books and my recent 3-CD program audio program called Unlocking the Secrets of 2012. In brief, it is now known that the precession of the equinoxes is related to ice ages, though not in a straight 26,000-year interval, as the geological and astronomical orientations combine in rather complex ways. The galactic alignment serves nicely as an anchor point for a model of seasonal changes that the earth undergoes, operating over a 26,000-year period. Some kind of relationship between the precessional wobble and cycles of change experienced by life on earth would seem to be likely. Currently unexplored relationships between us, the galactic center, and precession are suggested in the fact that we are roughly 26,000 light years from the galactic center – which I first pointed out in 1996. That there may be more of a metaphysical, or subtle, impact on consciousness is also a consideration and may be related to the diminishment of the magnetic field surrounding the earth – I summarized Oliver Reiser’s work on this in my 2002 book Galactic Alignment. As a mythological construct within an ancient astro-theology of eschatology and spiritual transformation, the alignment of solar father and galactic mother can, of course, inspire initiations into authentic mystical experience for those who choose to avail themselves of the age-old perennial methods.
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i have pondered the future and after the signing of the kyoto protocol i saw ice age then when i realise no one realy playing ball on that i saw death by burning inb the end man has a greater control over the end of ages

we do trully control our futures by our thoughts and deeds

slight in sight the burning could be the sun or the financial market burning ever ones fingers savings and pension wise and then there is the idea when previous is done we are all the same and have same basic needs and we are all one all noughty thougts will be burnt from our minds as we are one and need to get along and feel safe knowing we have more control than we were lead to belive
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This is more FEAR propaganda, hypothetical crapola and just not going to happen.

Doom is happening NOW! What is happening today is the demise of many social systems falling apart so that humans will remake better new ones. We also see excelleration of diseases in people and groups dieing off in mass through earthquakes, and other natural disasters.

The doom is here and now, and that will continue up until 2011. From that point on only those who are still here will find life speeding at a pace that would never be imagined. By the time 2012 arrives, we will be different beyond words, beyond our imaginations now. and that "day" will not really be more than some people toasting wine and dnacing that we are not going to die off like the propaganda told us!

But the real changes are in 2013, for that year is going to be massive mutations of earth and her people. That mayan date was the end of "time" that tick tick clock of time, nothing more. People tend to think the worst first and find prrof for the worst. This video is pure off centered specualtion that will never happen.

For mankind it seems we doom our self through our constant feed of fear, the daily diet. so why not gather seemingly fair proof fo things killing us all off, taking out the planet, etc.

It is not going to happen any more than a race of beings blowing up the earth to pave a supper highway through this sector of our galaxy!

the best vidoe I have ever seen on this subject is by Ian at www.mayanmajix.com on his DVD's This will also put to rest the rumor of doom for that time period, for it is scientific and closer to the truth than this abomination posted here.
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This is more FEAR propaganda, hypothetical crapola and just not going to happen.

Doom is happening NOW! planet, etc.

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everything will be ok....no need to panic.
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everything will be ok....no need to panic.
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I totally agree. Like attracts like. Gloom attracts gloom. Positive attracts positive.

I firmly believe this is the best time EVER to be alive, despite all of the gloom and doom. 2012 may come and go without anything happening. It might not.

The bottom line is if you have a positive attitude, it can do nothing but help you regardless of what happens.

Lets say, hypothetically, that thoughts become manifestations. If someone thinks gloom and doom, guess what? That's what they'll get!!!

If one has a positive outlook on life (and meditation certainly makes a significant difference!) then guess what? Nothing but positive things will happen to these people!!

We're already experiencing the 4th dimension on a daily basis through The Law of Attraction (LoA). With the LoA, it still requires effort for thought to manifest. The 5th dimension is right around the corner, so be prepared for when thoughts become manifestations WITHOUT EFFORT!

If 2012 comes and goes without a hitch, then what have you lost if you have a positive outlook on life? NOTHING, including sleep!!
Once you've eliminated fear and darkness, there's only love and light!

Official 2012 Mayan Calendar Countdown website
[link to www.maya12-21-2012.com]

in5d
[link to www.in5d.com]

My YouTube Page
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That is just a small part of it--check it out:

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
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the fifth age is coming :)
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Maybe that is the date and time Art Bells LBFM cuts his balls off for fooling around!!
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The best explanation I ever heard was that it filled in the gap between 2011 and 2013.
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It is not going to happen any more than a race of beings blowing up the earth to pave a supper highway through this sector of our galaxy!
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You've got to build bypasses.
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I thought the planetxvideo was really very good! I sorry it is not available to display on other sites. I tried to post it to my site but could only find a copy for sale!! most unfortunate!
[link to www.educatinghumanity.com]
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Worth the watch:

[link to vimeo.com]
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Re: the Best explanation of 2012 I have ever heard
Check this site out also:

[link to www.redday2012.com]

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