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Recession Proof GLP...Veggie gardens
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Grower
User ID: 435644
 United States
5/20/2008 1:51 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Veggie gardens | Quote |
But I need advice: I'm now in the middle of a desert wilderness, a new experience for me. And I've got RABBITS! Very hungry rabbits. The darned little critters were even gobbling up my baby strawberry plants. I covered the bed with chicken wire and, my, what a difference! I know, fencing. Sigh... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 361818
my rabbit/mouse hunter
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Underground_Dude
User ID: 396606
 Russian Federation
5/20/2008 1:53 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Veggie gardens | Quote |
I also suggest a green manure crop in the winter many plants produce nitrogen with their root system.
Care to explain more? Quoting: Grower 435644
Sure: As you may know clovers when inoculated produce nitrogen when growing. The trick with them is finding one that grows in you area AND this is a BIG AND is shallow rooted. Your extension agent should be able to help you with that. Some clovers have deep roots so be advised only use shallow rooted clover.
Many legumes also produce nitrogen Hairy Vetch comes to mind.
The next thing most of us need is to improve the tilth of our soil. This can be done with either Buckwheat for the spring and fall/summer (it doesn't like frost) and Winter wheat grown in the winter and plowed under in the spring.
This will also improve your water retention!
You can let the grains go to seed but that creates a volunteer plant problem and you really can't produce enough on small acreage to make it worth while.
The ladies run about an acre for a kitchen garden but the put aprox half in green manure crops every year. Their beds are about 2ft taller than the walk ways and this is from the green manure crops. Oh they use 4X20 foot beds because that width is easy to maintain withoutwalking on the beds.
Everything is planted by the spacing between plant and no rows. This keeps everything touching which reduces weeds and the need to water.
Sorry for being so LLLLOOOOONNGGG |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 361818
United States
5/20/2008 1:54 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Veggie gardens | Quote |
Ahhh yes. my favorite subject!
SNIP
Great pictures! Thanks! You have a great set-up there. I don't have that much room and am having to rely on boxes on the deck, etc.
I'm trying to grow grapes, but I'm pretty sure I've got them in the wrong spot. I'm thinking about moving them to the front yard next year. Hubby teases me about having my own mini-vineyard. The grapes are the only thing I've got in the dirt...everything else is above-ground. Quoting: Redheaded Stepchild
Grapes like good drainage. |
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Underground_Dude
User ID: 396606
Russian Federation
5/20/2008 1:55 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Veggie gardens | Quote |
Green manure, just turn it into the soil right where it grows before it goes to seed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 436298
Correct! |
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TDM
User ID: 435852
 Slovenia
5/20/2008 1:55 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Veggie gardens | Quote |
I only have a small balcony so i just plant mostly herbs like basil, oregano etc. Plus mint for tea. This year i decided to plant tomatos and they went wild lol.. now im trying to figure out how to replant them in bigger pots and where the hell to put them lol. Wish i had a big garden.. but i have to do with this for now. What else do you guys plant when you dont have much space available?
Think vertical. Peas and pole beans will grow in pots. And you can even grow things like squash by letting the plant sprawl out of the pot. Quoting: Anka 361818
Cant believe i didnt even think of peas. lol Thanks!  |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 361818
United States
5/20/2008 1:59 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Veggie gardens | Quote |
But I need advice: I'm now in the middle of a desert wilderness, a new experience for me. And I've got RABBITS! Very hungry rabbits. The darned little critters were even gobbling up my baby strawberry plants. I covered the bed with chicken wire and, my, what a difference! I know, fencing. Sigh...
my rabbit/mouse hunter
[ link to i4.photobucket.com]
WOW! Now THAT's a CAT!
Just now a VERY cheeky, extremely large buff gopher tried to come into the house, did a stand-off with the dog at the door. Sheesh. Then later, he tried to come in AGAIN, but I scared him off - this time. So what is the esoteric meaning of the visit by this critter? |
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Wraithwynd
User ID: 360108
United States
5/20/2008 2:08 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Veggie gardens | Quote |
I was having a problem with worms and sprayed on soapy water as recommended by my neighbor. Think that will work, or is there another natural remedy? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 436302
The trick to using soapy water, garlic, hot pepper sprays - is that you have to be a constant gardener - using those every day from the very first outbreak of pests.
Further you have to have a general idea of what pest you are dealing with. Cut worms as example come out at night, live in the soil - you have to basically dig those bugs up and kill them by hand.
[link to www.ehow.com] for other ideas.
Aphids (which everybody knows about) will die if sprayed with soapy and oily water they basically "drown" in the solution.
[link to www.ehow.com] for other ideas to control aphids.
To deal with the loss of crop due to pests plan ahead - plant more crop to absorb the loss.
Rotation planting is something you seriously need to learn. Rotation planting means you do not put plants that suffer from same diseases or pests in the same spot that you have planted other ones with the issues.
Example: Do not plant hot peppers where tomatoes grew last year.
There is an around to that IF you have the space to do it in your garden and that is to 'cook' the soil by putting black plastic over it, sealing the edges with dirt then allow the sun to bake the earth for a month. This will kill out most of the diseases and most of the ground pests. It also kills worms. Earthworms you need for healthy soil so you will need to amend those back into the soil. Helpful bacteria will need t be amended back into the soil as well. This is where you throw compost into the freshly 'cooked' soil after you uncover it.
Ehow has other articles on how to deal with different pests naturally.
I would strongly suggest going to the library and asking to see books with pictures of common garden pests to get an idea of what you are dealing with in your garden so you know exactly which process you need to deal with those problems.
Also learn about beneficial insects.
Aside from pollinators (bees), earth worms, lady bugs, praying mantis, some kinds of birds are all helpful to the organic gardener.
Several years ago I bought lady bugs [link to www.buglogical.com]
On top of the veg garden I have 50 large rose bushes through out the two acres we are on - we also have other plants and trees that draw lady bug food.
Since buying the lady bugs our roses and our veg garden has seen a great reduction in the way of aphids and other pests. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 431954 (OP)
United States
5/20/2008 2:09 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Veggie gardens | Quote |
I only have a small balcony so i just plant mostly herbs like basil, oregano etc. Plus mint for tea. This year i decided to plant tomatos and they went wild lol.. now im trying to figure out how to replant them in bigger pots and where the hell to put them lol. Wish i had a big garden.. but i have to do with this for now. What else do you guys plant when you dont have much space available? Quoting: TDM
I had bell peppers and tomatoes in pots last year. They did well at the start of the season (we had lots of rain) but then the heat got to them. I got only cherry tomatoes, and not very many of those.
The year before, though, we couldn't eat the tomatoes fast enough and ended up giving them away.
This year, I have a mix...potted tomatoes and boxed tomatoes. I'm going to install shade cloth over as much as I can...it got to 99F yesterday and it's going to be in the 90s again today. The sun was brutal. The weather has been cool and comfortable until yesterday. Dang. |
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Underground_Dude
User ID: 436340
United States
5/20/2008 2:10 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Veggie gardens | Quote |
For those that have very limited space and want to grow tomatoes try to find Window Box (heirloom) or Totem (heirloom). These grow 12-18 inches tall and are prolific producers. I run about 50 varieties and with just an eye ball count not weighed they are the best producers I have. Fruit runs 2-4" and is twangy. |
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Underground_Dude
User ID: 436340
United States
5/20/2008 2:13 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Veggie gardens | Quote |
I only have a small balcony so i just plant mostly herbs like basil, oregano etc. Plus mint for tea. This year i decided to plant tomatos and they went wild lol.. now im trying to figure out how to replant them in bigger pots and where the hell to put them lol. Wish i had a big garden.. but i have to do with this for now. What else do you guys plant when you dont have much space available?
I had bell peppers and tomatoes in pots last year. They did well at the start of the season (we had lots of rain) but then the heat got to them. I got only cherry tomatoes, and not very many of those.
The year before, though, we couldn't eat the tomatoes fast enough and ended up giving them away.
This year, I have a mix...potted tomatoes and boxed tomatoes. I'm going to install shade cloth over as much as I can...it got to 99F yesterday and it's going to be in the 90s again today. The sun was brutal. The weather has been cool and comfortable until yesterday. Dang. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 431954
Howdy OP: Try canning or drying you extra. |
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Underground_Dude
User ID: 436340
United States
5/20/2008 2:16 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Veggie gardens | Quote |
Lunch is over back to the garden.
Good thread Red! |
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Grower
User ID: 435644
United States
5/20/2008 2:17 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Veggie gardens | Quote |
I also suggest a green manure crop in the winter many plants produce nitrogen with their root system.
Care to explain more?
Sure: As you may know clovers when inoculated produce nitrogen when growing. The trick with them is finding one that grows in you area AND this is a BIG AND is shallow rooted. Your extension agent should be able to help you with that. Some clovers have deep roots so be advised only use shallow rooted clover. Quoting: Underground_Dude
Would this happen to be a type of clover?
[link to i4.photobucket.com] |
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loco
User ID: 436293
United States
5/20/2008 2:17 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Veggie gardens | Quote |
LOL you don't know Texas then.
Bugs and other critters will take their share, just expect it.
Enjoy! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 436302
Hi Texas! Sure, you try to avoid them, but over the years I've become more relaxed about it, otherwise would have quit gardening just out of frustration! When we lived in Texas, I remember Mom complaining about the poor soils and how hard it was to keep it wet especially when trying to set seed, tho I think your weather has changed somewhat in the last decades. Want a challenge? Try to garden at 5500+ feet on a rocky Montana mountaintop amidst all the wildlife you can shake a stick at, with the most changeable weather in the world and NO growing season (meaning it can frost/snow anytime). We don't have a fenced garden - we have a gulag, with two strands of barbed wire around the top to keep those high jumping deer and elk out. The good news is: few snakes and so far, no rattlers here and that counts for a LOT to me. Grandmother once came up on a puff adder curled up under a tomato plant there in Texas, the story goes. Hate those snakes...
<<But I need advice: I'm now in the middle of a desert wilderness, a new experience for me. And I've got RABBITS! Very hungry rabbits. The darned little critters were even gobbling up my baby strawberry plants. I covered the bed with chicken wire and, my, what a difference! I know, fencing. Sigh...>>
Well, small hole fencing is the only sure thing and be sure to bury the fence edge into the dirt. Rabbits dislike marigolds but manage to overcome that long enough to eat your lunch. Used cat litter spread along the perimeter will help keep them at bay, but eewww who wants that around your food?
Cheers |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 431954 (OP)
United States
5/20/2008 2:21 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Veggie gardens | Quote |
I only have a small balcony so i just plant mostly herbs like basil, oregano etc. Plus mint for tea. This year i decided to plant tomatos and they went wild lol.. now im trying to figure out how to replant them in bigger pots and where the hell to put them lol. Wish i had a big garden.. but i have to do with this for now. What else do you guys plant when you dont have much space available? Quoting: TDM
Is your balcony covered? Can you hang anything from the ceiling?
Below is a list of plants that are well suited for container gardening.
[link to www.containergardeningtips.com]
NOTE: check out the hanging tomatoe pot. That's a commercial item for purchase, but you can make pretty much the same thing using a 5-gallon food-grade bucket.
[link to www.seedsofknowledge.com]
Growing Tomatoes Upside Down?
An Alternative Garden Plan
By Kathi Morris
My daughter brought me a bunch of food-grade buckets from the bakery at Wal-Mart. We have some extra tomato starters that we are going to try to grow in the buckets. |
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JCD
User ID: 188983
United States
5/20/2008 2:26 PM
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TDM
As for vertical, you've got the peas, beans, and even cucmbers can grow on a trellis. While all this is growing 'up', why not plant a root crop like carrots or table onions, potatoes, or beets around the bottom? Make sure they are compatible with each other and won't hinder growth.
Hanging pots for tomatoes BUT you can do strawberries that way too.
How about potted plants in the house on a sturdy stand next to a window or patio door? Lettuce and herbs of course. See what plants like the available lighting.
Once your peas die you will have empty space in your planter, how about putting in broccolli or something after they are done?
Just some ideas for you to play around with. Good luck!
Things change when you least expect it. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 431954 (OP)
United States
5/20/2008 2:26 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Veggie gardens | Quote |
Hi Texas! Sure, you try to avoid them, but over the years I've become more relaxed about it, otherwise would have quit gardening just out of frustration! When we lived in Texas, I remember Mom complaining about the poor soils and how hard it was to keep it wet especially when trying to set seed, tho I think your weather has changed somewhat in the last decades. Want a challenge? Try to garden at 5500+ feet on a rocky Montana mountaintop amidst all the wildlife you can shake a stick at, with the most changeable weather in the world and NO growing season (meaning it can frost/snow anytime). We don't have a fenced garden - we have a gulag, with two strands of barbed wire around the top to keep those high jumping deer and elk out. The good news is: few snakes and so far, no rattlers here and that counts for a LOT to me. Grandmother once came up on a puff adder curled up under a tomato plant there in Texas, the story goes. Hate those snakes...
<<SNIP>> Quoting: loco 436293
GULAG??? That gave me a good giggle and a fine mental image. LOL! |
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JCD
User ID: 188983
United States
5/20/2008 2:29 PM
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loco your location sounds just about like mine. The 2 bobwire fence rows just arent' doing the trick. Adding another 3 feet to the top this year, alllll the way around. LOL
Things change when you least expect it. |
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TDM
User ID: 435852
Slovenia
5/20/2008 2:43 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Veggie gardens | Quote |
Awesome ideas! Am gonna go look for seeds and pots tommorrow. That hanging thingie looks handy too. Thanks guys!  |
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locomotion
User ID: 436293
United States
5/20/2008 2:45 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Veggie gardens | Quote |
loco your location sounds just about like mine. The 2 bobwire fence rows just arent' doing the trick. Adding another 3 feet to the top this year, alllll the way around. LOL Quoting: JCD
Hiya JCD! Yep, those big critters add a whole new element to fencing. We have about 8feet of fence/wire, and no doubt they could jump it if they really wanted to! Thankfully, the moose just don't seem interested, no fence we could build is gonna keep them out if they want in! Had some burrowing under last year, voles or moles maybe...any thoughts on protecting our OTHER rear? LOL
Good to see ya,
loco |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 175812
United States
5/20/2008 2:51 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Veggie gardens | Quote |
Sure: As you may know clovers when inoculated produce nitrogen when growing. The trick with them is finding one that grows in you area AND this is a BIG AND is shallow rooted. Your extension agent should be able to help you with that. Some clovers have deep roots so be advised only use shallow rooted clover.
Would this happen to be a type of clover?
[ link to i4.photobucket.com]
ummmm NO, that's creeping charlie. it's a weed that spreads and kills good plants. get rid of it. flowers are nice under pine woods though. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 436363
United States
5/20/2008 2:57 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Veggie gardens | Quote |
ummmm NO, that's creeping charlie. it's a weed that spreads and kills good plants. get rid of it. flowers are nice under pine woods though. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 175812
HAHA okay thanks. This shit is all over my back yard. I use to have a bad time walking barefoot in my yard because the bees loved these things.... but bees are no more... |
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Wraithwynd
User ID: 360108
United States
5/20/2008 2:58 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Veggie gardens | Quote |
Our Veg garden is a modest 18 x 20 foot area.
It is raised beds - Imagine the letter D the long straight side is north the semi circular arc faces south. We enter through the top (east). Around the perimeter of the arc the beds are 30 inches wide there is only access from the interior a fence and a 'wall' of shrubbery shield the garden from view (from the street) and also provide a wind break.
The north side (long straight side) I built a trellis up and over the paved walk way. I have one grape vine (purple seedless - great raisin kind of grape) growing up the west post of the trellis and over the top of the trellis shielding the walk way. It also shields the bedrooms southern wall/window. In Summer the vine grows big leaves keeping very cool on that wall. When the grapes start growing I thin out the bunches to about 1/3 of the full yield. At harvest time grapes are hanging just above 6'6" high real easy for a tall guy like me to reach up and cut them off.
This year I have a row of sunflowers running just behind the back of the trellis. Its kind of and experiment - I am growing them close together to form a 'wall' of stalk. The kind I am using supposedly grow 7 to 12 feet high. what I hope will happen is that the heads will grow above the trellis (7' high) and the leaves and stalks will form a semi-solid wall of green for the path. This should create a tunnel of green.
In front of them I have pole beans - I had early peas in there. Between the pole beans and the sunflowers I have my summer squash and zucchini Beans go up, squash move out.
This year my tomatoes are on the trellis on the western end and around the bottom of the 'D' (west/northwest corner and partially around the D). I am using wire fencing (5' high) to tie the tomato vines in espalier fashion.
In front of the tomatoes I will have onion, carrot and a few cabbage (companion planting). I have two short rows of Parsley (they are permanent kinda) that act like book marks on either end of the tomato area. Earlier I had lettuce, spinach etc. However it got hot early so those started to go to seed. They had to go
The South side of my D (The middle of the arc) I have my compost heap - moving toward the west I have my pepper (bell), followed by a section of onion (seeds - growing to sets this year) and garlic. Further to the west near the top of the Arc side of the D I have a few broccolis.
The remainder is given over to a potatoes cage - I'm growing my potatoes upward in a cage. next year that will be my compost heap - last year where the compost heap is the potatoes were.
In the middle of my D there is is a small plot that I reserve for herbs.
I live in California Central Valley - most years we can raise cool season crops (turnips, potatoes, carrots, etc. [link to www.ipm.iastate.edu] ) in the winter IF we use a garden fabric to keep the warmth in at night.
I save up milk gallon jugs - I fill those with water and set them between the rows of the part of my cool weather garden. I pull the fabric back during the 'warm' day and allow the sun to heat up the jugs - near nightfall I recover the garden. The heat absorbed by the milk jugs keeps the plants warm enough to survive light frosts (were get the occasional few some years)
I use a lot of straw bales in my garden. Let's put it this way I am on a straw bale kick. I have even designed our future home using straw bale construction ( [link to www.greenbuilder.com] is just the tip of the iceberg). I Like straw because it comes in easy to handle packages (2' x 3' x 18") it can be Broken down into 'paving bricks' - cut the string and a bale will tend to fall apart in 2'x 18" slabs. That makes it real easy to lay in "solid" mulch between plants. With a little extra work one can break those down into loose straw which makes for an excellent mulch and a great growing medium for caged potatoes. Straw (not hay) is mostly the stalks of grains without seed and with few leaves. it takes a bit longer to compost down than grass, but composts faster than tree leaves if broken up and loose. In its slabs the bottom will compost out, but the top remains 'solid' the full year.
Depending on what kind of straw you get (wheat, barely, oat, etc) there is the potential to mulch your garden with the long term goal of getting certain nutrients out of the composted material.
My compost is composed mostly from grass clippings (5 'yards' on 2 acres of land all mowed by little old me) Once a month I bag the clippings, the other 3 weeks I mulch mow the clippings back into the lawn - and raked up leaves in the autumn (hella trees here lots of leaves) and I used last years straw (already partially composted) from mulch and from the potato bin.
Once a year I grab chicken manure from the lady down the road a piece. she raises chickens and needs the coop cleaned once a year. I take shovel and truck and 'help her out' and help myself to chicken droppings. I compost that as well.
My compost heap is just that - a pile of material which I pretty much ignore letting nature take her course. Around mid summer we start tossing organic matter next to the potato bin (where next years compost heap will be.
After potato harvest I scrap off the top of the pile (uncomposted material) and use the composted and semi-composted material, spreading it around the garden before applying my next mulch cover.
I have a rotation plan, I rotate all of my crops. I make certain to move the potato bin every year to a new location - 'cooking' compost in a new spot each year. This way that bit of ground will get more composted material in it.
Every 7th year I let the ground rest for a year. I cover it in mulch material and grow nothing in it. I have a rotating section of 'resting' ground.
Lots of other little things I do - such as using news print (now all recycled paper and non-toxic inks) *not the glossy bits* too lay out a weed block in some areas where I want to use only 2 inches of mulch between plants.
I also make my own seed tapes and seed paper. Using cornstarch and water I make a paste - Using 2 ply paper towels - pulling the ply apart I use the paste to paste tiny seeds (lettuce, spinach, onion, etc) spaced apart as they need. I do this in the cold months in my 'spare time' I end up with a stack or a roll of seed. Come planting time I roll out my seed roll, and cover loosely with half compost/half soil to the recommended depth for the seed.
This keeps me from having to kneel down for hours at a time planting each seed. I've got a bum leg and on a can - all that stooping and crouching and kneeling is kinda out of the question for me.
Companion Planting: [link to www.gardenguides.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 175812
United States
5/20/2008 2:59 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Veggie gardens | Quote |
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
the clover you want to plant to feed to rabbits (to keep them from your garden) and as a crop to till under to amend the soil. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 175812
United States
5/20/2008 3:02 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Veggie gardens | Quote |
ummmm NO, that's creeping charlie. it's a weed that spreads and kills good plants. get rid of it. flowers are nice under pine woods though.
HAHA okay thanks. This shit is all over my back yard. I use to have a bad time walking barefoot in my yard because the bees loved these things.... but bees are no more... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 436363
bees love the flowers, that they do. you can manage it by mowing regularily and fertilize it three times through the season (it is an ivy) but to rid yourself of it use an herbicide with 2, 4-D or triclopyr as one ingredient in it or dig it all up by hand. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 175812
United States
5/20/2008 3:15 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Veggie gardens | Quote |
if you don't want deer in your garden, go drink a lot of beer and then go relieve yourself around the perimiter of your garden.
if you don't want rabbits in your garden there are three things off hand i can think of doing.
put black pepper around each plant (it would need to be replaced after rains)
plant some clover and wildflowers outside your garden (away from your garden) to lure the bunnies over there.
spray a mixture (gallon of water, cup of molasses, one tablespoon) over the wildflower/clover patch you're growing and they'll go there rather than into your garden. |
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SouthernLight 
User ID: 421424
United States
5/20/2008 4:08 PM
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Wonderful thread!!
For bug spray I use garlic, cayenne peppers and whatever bug I can catch that are giving me problems, which usually works well.
You will need a gallon glass jar with lid, a few drops of liquid dish detergent, several crushed cloves of garlic and a few cayenne peppers or a spoon full of powder. Catch a few of each of your pests and put them in the jar too. Set it out in the sun for the day and come early evening, strain (use cloth to strain if you use the powder) and use in a pump sprayer. One note: I do not put any squash bugs into this... they cause a fungus (I think) and using them this way seems to make it worse on the pumpkins and squash types.
Most plants can be sprayed directly, but tomatoes don't like it on their leaves. I also lightly coat the ground around all the plants too. Admittedly, you will need to refresh this after a rain or watering with a sprinkler, so it is pretty work intensive.
This works fairly well for keeping our critters away from the plants too.
I also use Diatomaceous Earth around the base of the plants. Many recommend dusting the entire plant with it, but I won't because of the bees. It kills bugs through dehydration and bees can carry it back to the colony, creating real problems.
"Well behaved women rarely make history." |
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JCD
User ID: 188983
United States
5/20/2008 4:22 PM
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Hi loco! We have 10 permanant outside cats and 2 that wander on and off the property. Plenty of ground squirrels out here, so we don't have to feed them much. If the garden is 'sealed' put a couple cats in there. I leave our gate cracked just enough for them so that I never ever have 'ground' critter problems but it still keeps the chickens out. LOL
We have a 6' fence with the 2 barb wires on top, but a couple 'hills' next to the fence let some deer and the elk jump in. That is why I'm adding the extra 3 feet all the way around. Technically they say we have no moose here, but they are there. We've seen em. They just don't wander down this far out of the trees.
GET SOME CATS!!
Things change when you least expect it. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 436408
United States
5/20/2008 4:36 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Veggie gardens | Quote |
I also use Diatomaceous Earth around the base of the plants. Many recommend dusting the entire plant with it, but I won't because of the bees. It kills bugs through dehydration and bees can carry it back to the colony, creating real problems. Quoting: SouthernLight
Could this possibly be the cause of all the bees disappearing? |
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JCD
User ID: 188983
United States
5/20/2008 4:53 PM
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Diatematious earth...I thought it killed them by slicing them up? It is crushed coral basically.
Things change when you least expect it. |
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Anka
User ID: 361818
United States
5/20/2008 7:26 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Veggie gardens | Quote |
if you don't want deer in your garden, go drink a lot of beer and then go relieve yourself around the perimiter of your garden.
if you don't want rabbits in your garden there are three things off hand i can think of doing.
put black pepper around each plant (it would need to be replaced after rains)
plant some clover and wildflowers outside your garden (away from your garden) to lure the bunnies over there.
spray a mixture (gallon of water, cup of molasses, one tablespoon) over the wildflower/clover patch you're growing and they'll go there rather than into your garden. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 175812
Thanks! Can't hurt to try. I see in the AARBICO organic catalog that their rabbit repellent is a mixture of capsaicin, rotten eggs and garlic. Must smell just wonderful. |
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