EVIDENCE OF GOD - Aether Physics Model

Hello Divinity!

Of course, it is only natural that the rational and pious mind would love to find "evidence of God" amongst external exoteric phenomena.
"Proof of God" is such a wonderful concept as it seemingly would have the power to negate once and for all the importance of that contemporaneously discredited notion of "faith" in the collective mind of scientific materialism.
Yet isn't this against everything the masters have always taught, down through the ages?
That to realize the Divine/God/Absolute, we must stop searching information outside ourselves, and go within to discover the Reality of the Divine?
Again, are we really talking about 'God' in Aether Physics, or simply that which would be sourced in God, as is everything?

Just thinking out loud.....

That to realize the Divine/God/Absolute, we must stop searching information outside ourselves, and go within to discover the Reality of the Divine?
Again, are we really talking about 'God' in Aether Physics, or simply that which would be sourced in God, as is everything? ......snip




Hi Supersoul, yes, it's exactly that. There's not been a Master to-date (as far as I know) that has suggested God is external and exoteric in the form of a Godforce as such. All spiritual people are told that 'God is within', in my experience.

And how's our record, to-date? Are we finding God inside - is the teaching working? What do you think?

IMO, God is both within and without because there is nowhere God isn't. In order to receive and understand the language of God, we have to be quiet and peaceful enough to become aware of what information is coming 'in', aware enough to process the synchs/signs/messages and make it meaningful, and then act accordingly. God uses ALL media to communicate, uniquely, to each of us, every moment.

What I'm describing is the basis of a good two-way relationship. This intelligent entity, this loving and all-encompassing Energy might desire a relationship with its creations....and if that is the case, what have we done all these years? Ignore It, deny It, fear It? For those who don't believe God exists at all, they tend to think it's a male deity in the sky or it's all inside them (they are God).

What we are suggesting here is that God is Everything. You can breathe It, eat It, absorb It, speak to It, listen to It, work with It, play with It because It is tangibly real..is that the God we deserve? I think so and I think humanity is now ready for such a responsibility.


Yes, we are talking God. That's how profound the physics will become.

Love to you, for Love glues the Universe together!
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in consciousness certainly makes inquiries into the mystery of the self, of the cosmic situation and of the problems of life, in all spheres and fields -- social, political, economic, cultural, religious, moral, etc."

Srimad-Bhagavatam 2.9.36 Purport by HDG A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada



"It is not our only business that simply to eat, sleep and have sex life and defend. That is not our only business. That may be the business of the cats and dogs. But human life is not meant for that purpose. The civilization should be so molded that people will have the chance to think soberly about the truth of life. That is the point."

Lecture on Srimad-Bhagavatam, 11-16-73 by Srila Prabhupada

Very good, awarness of purpose to all things (universal).

"Tell me how you acquired your scientific knowledge," I asked. "You say you never studied physics and have read but few books in your life."

"It is because I always looked for the CAUSE behind things and didn’t fritter away my time analyzing EFFECTS," he replied. "ALL KNOWLEDGE EXISTS as CAUSE. And it is simple. It is limited to LIGHT of MIND and the electric wave of motion which records God’s thinking in matter.

"EFFECT is complex - infinitely complex – but one can have no KNOWLEDGE of effect. One can but be INFORMED of effect. Information is not knowledge. Our educational processes INFORM us but until we have recognized the eternal truth which underlies that information we have no knowledge of it. Like food in the grocery store, it is not nourishment until it is converted to the blood stream. ALL-KNOWLEDGE is possible for anyone – and the Cosmos gives it to him who asks but all-information is impossible."

"Can you tell me the process by which this ALL-KNOWLEDGE came to you? Was it always a gradual process, the result of earnest, patient seeking, or was there a high point, a period of revelation or illumination?

"I will put it very simply. In May of 1921 God took me up into a high mountain of inspiration and intense ecstasy. A brilliant flash like lightning severed my bodily sensation from my consciousness and I found myself freed from my body and wholly in the Mind universe of Light, which is God.

"And then God said to me, ‘Behold thou the unity of all things in Light of Me, and the seeming separateness of all things in the two lights of my divided thinking. See thou that I, the Undivided, Unchanging One, am within all divided things, centering them, and I am without all changing things, controlling them.’

"And the secrets of the universe were unfolded to me in their great simplicity as the doors to the Light opened fully to my consciousness. In less time than it takes to put it into words, I knew all there was to know of the CAUSE of all effect, for there was very little to know. In that hour it was as though the infinity of complexity within the moving kaleidoscope were suddenly taken apart and it was shown to me that the entirety of its illusion was but three mirrors and a few bits of broken glass. Likewise the universal kaleidoscope was but moving mirror waves of dual light extending from their equilibrium in God from Whom all creating things spring in octave electric waves just as ocean’s waves spring from the calm sea.

"Thus knowing the static Light of God, and the two dynamic lights of His thinking, and the electric processes by means of which His thinking is recorded in ‘matter’ I at once had the key to all the sciences, mathematics, chemistry, astronomy and mechanics, likewise all the underlying principles of creation; of life and the healing principle; of continuity in a universe in which there is no death; of energy which is not what man thinks it to be; and of matter which is not substance as man supposes it to be; and of the forces which act upon it which man has learned how to use somewhat but knows not the why of that which he uses.

"And likewise the mystery of the soul was mine to know; and of growth; and the patterns of things in the seeds of things; and the manner of their unfolding, and their repetition and their evolution.

"And the LAW was mine to know, the ONE LAW which governs all things extending from the Source through the universal pulse beat which motivates all things. And it was made known to me that I must extend knowledge of this law into all human relations to help remake the world in its new day which God has planned.

"For very many days and nights I was made to write down all these things which I knew in The Divine Iliad which is my record of my teachings while in the Light. And in that one volume of many thousands of words there was never an erasure nor correction; and the language of that divine message was not mine. I could never have written such rhythmic essence of knowledge, nor have created its exalted style.

"Thus I was made to see the universe as a whole and its simple principle of creation as one unit, repeated over and over, endlessly and without variation, as evidenced in the universal heart-beat to which every pulsing thing in the light-wave universe is geared to act as ONE UNIT OF ONE WHOLE.

"So simple is this underlying Principle of Creation that I have been enabled, throughout these years, to state it in one paragraph and one octave-wave diagram so simply that every law or theory ever propounded in the past or future by man can be tested by that paragraph and diagram. If they will not fit into this unitary principle they are outside of Natural Law and must be discarded. It will be found that most of even the most fundamental laws and theories of the past and present do not come anywhere near fitting into this underlying principle. They will, therefore, have to be discarded in favor of immortal Truth.

"And so it happened that I who had never had any school or university training above the primary grade, thus knew instantly, while in the Light, what all the universities in the world could never teach.

"By this rarest of all experiences ever to happen to any man, it was made known to me just what Jesus meant when He spoke of ‘the Light of the world.’ He meant just that, yet it has been misinterpreted as metaphor, or symbol.

"No greater proof than my experience is needed to prove to the doubting world that all knowledge exists in the Mind universe of Light – which is God - that all Mind is One Mind, that men do not have separate minds, and that all knowledge can be obtained from the Universal Source of All-Knowledge by becoming One with that Source."

Quite modern, all recorded and valid. Revealed knowledge as great as any in history? All of humanities impersonal technology pointing to the same physics/reality.

Walter Russell puts into his own words, reflecting his personal "knowing", as they all do. It`s the mechanics that apply/change everything in the mind/heart of any that "see" that is the KEY.

The message of "DaVinci Code" and "Holy Blood,Holy Grail" is actually quite simple and clear. The GRAIL is in the BLOOD. The question- from a scientific perspective is also simple- Is that true? Fortuneately for science - a hugely exciting path to investigating the question is emerging. Namely - the pure electrical geometry of how blood gets activated. Could this geometric answer - at the same time - be the pure electrical geometry of physics most pressing question? For physics - the most basic issue (usually called THE HOLY GRAIL OF PHYSICS) is the UNIFIED FIELD. To unify the fields for physics is in essence the pure electrical geometry of how ELECTROMAGNETISM becomes GRAVITY. (Compression of charge can directly become ACCELERATION of charge - called Gravity).

Not having answered such questions means usually arrogant physicists have to sit with their humble tail between their legs should any child ask "well- why DOES an object fall to the ground?" It also means - that when physicists (as Fosar/Bludorf et al have written)- discover that DNA does in fact become superconductive - they also have to sit facing the humble pie that they don't have a CLUE what DNA (in the blood) is really DOING - in electrical terms.

All of this paints a picture of the current state of physics - as being quite simply- stupid. How are they to answer URGENT SURVIVAL questions like- why does GMO and cloning deplete the sustainability and survival of DNA. (How embarassing the WAY - Dolly the Sheep aged..). The rats who had to be forced to eat GMO soy - died so fast the experimenters were breathless. Who explains these stark raving embarassments to modern scientists - still driving around in cars powered by dinosaurs farting?- while their planet fixes to rot in the stink of not knowing the electrical principle of WHAT IS LIFE. Who have no clue to eating the charge inside gravty- ... and who still think the zero point energy is somehow "free" (disconnected- schizophrenic)

...Very good, awarness of purpose to all things (universal).

Russell:

"It is because I always looked for the CAUSE behind things and didn’t fritter away my time analyzing EFFECTS," he replied. "ALL KNOWLEDGE EXISTS as CAUSE. And it is simple. It is limited to LIGHT of MIND and the electric wave of motion which records God’s thinking in matter.

"EFFECT is complex - infinitely complex – but one can have no KNOWLEDGE of effect. One can but be INFORMED of effect. Information is not knowledge. Our educational processes INFORM us but until we have recognized the eternal truth which underlies that information we have no knowledge of it. Like food in the grocery store, it is not nourishment until it is converted to the blood stream. ALL-KNOWLEDGE is possible for anyone – and the Cosmos gives it to him who asks but all-information is impossible."


"Thus knowing the static Light of God, and the two dynamic lights of His thinking, and the electric processes by means of which His thinking is recorded in ‘matter’ I at once had the key to all the sciences, mathematics, chemistry, astronomy and mechanics, likewise all the underlying principles of creation; of life and the healing principle; of continuity in a universe in which there is no death; of energy which is not what man thinks it to be; and of matter which is not substance as man supposes it to be; and of the forces which act upon it which man has learned how to use somewhat but knows not the why of that which he uses.

"And likewise the mystery of the soul was mine to know; and of growth; and the patterns of things in the seeds of things; and the manner of their unfolding, and their repetition and their evolution.

"And the LAW was mine to know, the ONE LAW which governs all things extending from the Source through the universal pulse beat which motivates all things. And it was made known to me that I must extend knowledge of this law into all human relations to help remake the world in its new day which God has planned.




Quite modern, all recorded and valid. Revealed knowledge as great as any in history? All of humanities impersonal technology pointing to the same physics/reality.

Walter Russell puts into his own words, reflecting his personal "knowing", as they all do. It`s the mechanics that apply/change everything in the mind/heart of any that "see" that is the KEY.

"Very specifically how surviving death with memory intact is electrically measureable and teachable once we get past the horrifying schizophrenia which separates our understanding of ELECTRICAL coherence - from our teaching of a spiritual aura. Understanding how your body's aura gets COHERENT - is the clue to understanding - the KA in KAthar, KAtholic, KAllisto (Greek descendants of Enki / Benjamin tribe-forrunners of BOheme,BOgomil, Bugaresh), MerKAba, - even KAlllice (chalice) - See how all the meanings agree: IF KA= the death and dream penetrating COHERENCE of your bodies electric charge field, that explains why KA means BOAT TO THE UNDERWORLD in Egyptian - and it means HEAVEN in Sanskrit. Bliss hygiene choices- mean you GET FRACTAL - attract charge - get coherent - and then RADIATE that charge."

"Russell: It is because I always looked for the CAUSE behind things and didn’t fritter away my time analyzing EFFECTS," he replied. "ALL KNOWLEDGE EXISTS as CAUSE. And it is simple. It is limited to LIGHT of MIND and the electric wave of motion which records God’s thinking in matter." [Divinity quoting Walter Russell]


My husband Magi, who is now 81... knew Walter Russell and his lovely wife, Lao ~ way back in the 1950's. His viewpoint was (and is) the same as Russell in the above quote. Magi always looks for Cause... not Effect.

Thanks to Divinity telling us about the APM ~ my Magi and I ordered the book, "Secrets of the Aether" by David W. Thomson III and Jim D. Bourassa.

Magi was on to the Ether Theory way back in his twenties, and the new Aether Physics Model has him "fired up again", lol. He's just beginning to read the book... and he particularly likes this quote from Page 18:


"Furthermore, since Matter is contained within Aether, matter does not move in space-time. Rather, space-time moves relative to itself. Matter is carried through space-time like dust is carried in the wind and algae is carried in ocean currents. Aether has a fluid characteristic such that one region of space-time can flow past another region, like the Gulf Stream can flow past the Sargasso Sea in the North Atlantic Ocean. Strictly speaking, neither time travel nor space travel is possible. Only the rearranging of the Aether is possible, and hence, certain relativistic-like effects seem to occur."

Wasayo

I would maintain that the whole shift from group consciousness to individuality was not just a random chance direction in human evolution but the goal and purpose of it.

Yes, it was our “next step.”

Rudolf Steiner was the best advocate of this concept. He described it as a polarity: the dominance of the pregnant, intangible "wisdom" forces unconsciously guiding humanity in the past balanced by the modern shift into precipitated forms of all kinds of different "knowledge" systems of subject/object perspective so as to facilitate the beginnings of self-reflection and self evolution

We started in an undifferentiated (unconscious) state with the “wisdom forces” (gods) unconsciously guiding an unconscious humanity.

The “modern shift” (cataclysm) precipitated a new “environment” that required the “precipitation” of new forms of knowledge by self-conscious beings.

We were meant to learn self-reflection and self-evolution. It’s the required “intermediary” stage between Unconsciousness and Cosmic Consciousness.

Steiner maintained that the "gods" (forces, powers, energies; grounded physically in the actions of plasma) slowly receded and withdrew from intimate relationship with man so as to allow man the efflorescence of intellect that could construct concepts and ideas that were not intrinsically bound to the "sacred numerical canon" (Plato).

Yes, the Ancients said that the “gods” deserted them. The “old ways” were tied to the “sacred numerical canon” -- the ability to tap into the (plasma) “plenum.” The “gods” withdrew; the “plenum” dried up. Now humans had to learn how to create their own “divine energy” -- the shift from mechanic to engineer is a conscious process.

Thus we have today the ability to think feel and do anything under the sun, generative OR destructive. Looking at the amazingly long lived civilizations of the past (thousands of years even!) you will see at their basis a type of synarchy (the reverse of anarchy)

We create a "new synarchy" that can develop only from fully conscious behavior. It is a synarchy that combines the "Ancient Wisdom" with "Modern Rational Thought."

Incorrect Assumptions in Astrophysics



Is all well within the field of astronomy, or have astronomers been misled by their trusting acceptance of a myriad of unproven foundational assumptions leading to extreme, bizarre (and possibly quite wrong) conclusions?

In previous commentaries (Ultra Luminous Astronomy [link to www.thunderbolts.info] and [link to www.thunderbolts.info] ), it has been noted that there has been an increasing trend among astronomers in applying superlative terms to anomalous astronomical objects, such as "ultra-luminous," "beyond bright," "super-massive," among others.

These objects are so labeled due to their extraordinary brilliance, size, and other attributes. Or are they? On what foundational basis do these classifications rest? Are they based upon actual measurements of absolute luminosity, absolute size, or absolute mass? Or are they, on the other hand, based upon undisclosed assumptions?

In fact, many stars and galaxies are so distant that accurate absolute measurements of primary properties are nearly or completely beyond humanity’s current technological capability to assess. As such, several of astronomers' " absolute" measurements are in fact calculated measurements. They are extrapolated from related actual data based upon assumptions about how those data relate to properties that cannot be directly measured.

This, however, leaves astronomers in the unenviable and precarious situation of having a trust relationship with both the properties that can be directly measured and the assumptions about how those relate to the properties that cannot be directly measured.

As an example, astronomers can measure the "apparent luminosity" of stars and galaxies as received at Earth-based or space-based observatories (how much light the receiving apparatus was exposed to during a specific interval). Astronomers do not, however, know the absolute luminosity of the source (how much light was originally emitted from the source).

In order to calculate "absolute luminosity" (an estimation of the quantity of light originally emitted from a star or galaxy), astronomers must make calculations from the "apparent luminosity" based upon assumed distance to the source.

An article ( [link to www.skyandtelescope.com] , from Sky and Telescope, appears to recognize the precarious situation that low-quality estimations of distance put astronomers in:

A bedrock problem in astronomy is simply figuring out how far away things are. Practically everything else about an object - its true size, its energy output - all the stuff you have to know to understand it - depends on simply knowing how far away it is. And even now, the poor quality of many astronomical distances remains a nagging problem. [Emphasis added]

However, a pitfall exists in the trust relationship astronomers have with assumptions used to calculate the data. They trust that they understand how to calculate the distance to an object based upon certain assumptions about stellar life cycles, color, apparent luminosity, etc.

But the question remains as to whether or not astronomers actually have a valid model of how to calculate the distance to those objects. One might also ask, what if they’re wrong? What would the result be in models based upon faulty assumptions?

In the prior articles mentioned above, it was stated that if the assumed distance was incorrect it would skew the results of calculations using said incorrect distance as a foundational assumption. If a normal star or galaxy is placed much further away than it actually exists due to incorrect assumptions, calculations based upon the distance will consequently exaggerate its size, mass, and luminosity. An otherwise "normal galaxy" will be seen as larger, brighter and more energetic than it actually is. If the incorrect assumptions are not recognized as such, then astronomers will continue to accept the larger values and label those objects "ultra-luminous," "super-massive" or otherwise "anomalous."

Albert Einstein gave the following sage advice:

"Any fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage - to move in the opposite direction."

Where astronomers currently see anomalous "super-massive" and "ultra-luminous" objects, we need a touch of genius and a bit of courage (like those suggested in Einstein’s quote) in order to move in the opposite direction.

A recent news release based upon data from Hubble ( [link to www.spacedaily.com] exemplifies this principle perfectly, if inadvertently. It appears that researchers have had to significantly revise down the distance to a pair of interacting galaxies, from 65 million light years to 45 million light years distant (a 30% reduction in distance).

The scientists found that the Antennae Galaxies are much closer to us than previously thought: residing at a distance of 45 million light-years instead of the previous best estimate of 65 million light-years.

This surprising conclusion also led to the downward revision of calculated properties of the interacting pair of galaxies, bringing them into line with more "normal " galaxies / mergers:

The previous larger distance required astronomers to invoke some quite exceptional physical characteristics to account for the spectacular system: very high star-formation rates, supermassive star clusters, ultraluminous X-ray sources etc. The new smaller distance makes the Antennae Galaxies less extreme in terms of the physics needed to explain the observed phenomena.

For instance, with the smaller distance its infrared radiation is now that expected of a "standard" early merging event rather than that of an ultraluminous infrared galaxy. The size of the star clusters formed as a consequence of the Antennae merger now agree with those of clusters created in other mergers instead of being 1.5 times as large.

It seems that the astronomers have been forced, by the data, to change the classification of the galaxies from " ultra-luminous," and "abnormally large" to "standard in luminosity" and "normal in size, " in line with other galaxies of similar characteristics assumed to be at their actual distances.

The implications, however, range further afield than this isolated case. If a single anomalous "ultra-luminous, " "super-massive" entity must be revised downward back to the "normal" range, what might that say of other "ultra-luminous," "super- massive" or otherwise "abnormal" / " unexpected" entities currently requiring a host of "exotic" unproven explanations?

As noted in the prior TPODs, there is something of a raging (if muted) debate in the sciences over the foundational assumption that underpins much of astronomy: redshift.

Halton Arp has amassed a collection of strong evidence (published in peer reviewed journals) that the Hubble relation (redshift ~= recessional velocity ~= distance), which Hubble himself admitted may not be the only viable explanation, is not the only interpretation of redshift and is not necessarily mutually exclusive with other interpretations (there may be both an intrinsic and a cosmological component to redshift, with the intrinsic component being dominant).

Arp’s assertion is that redshift is primarily a measure of the youth of an object with relation to other nearby less-redshifted objects, rather than a measure of its cosmological distance.

If the underpinning assumption of ultra-luminous astronomy (and much of the Big Bang model) is found to be incorrect, then it may be necessary for astronomers to radically revise their understanding of the universe. Objects currently assumed to be "extremely distant," "super- massive," "ultra-luminous," or " extraordinarily fast" based upon Hubble relation distance assumptions may in fact be found to be far more local, small, dim, and slow.

It is imperative to once again urge cognizance and caution with respect to the trust relationships developed with data and astronomers’ underpinning assumptions. If the assumptions turn out to be incorrect, the end results may suffer from "Garbage In, Garbage Out" syndrome and require significant revision based upon corrected findings.

And now I will rise up to that challenge and prove beyond any doubt the existance of GOD.

I can understand what you creationist are feeling, its like the atheist have proven mankind evolved, that there is no one behind the design. I wonder why they don't see the house or car and city they exist in the same way like the planet? Some one designed everything, in the case of cars and homes we know it's man, but why draw the line there?

Man's own designing capability can't make nothing with life using raw materials, try taking alittle earth and some rocks and do whatever is neccesary to get a living breathing organism, they can't, so when they can't do something or understand they resort to chance, and that no one is higher than Man, therefore, theorising that the superior design is chance, making Man the ultimate creator, thinking themselves as gods.

But you're not gods, you're men with the personality and character of GOD you're Creator, this is why when the average joe trys to build or repair something he does it as though it will last forever, because forever was you're Designer.

You were made without hands as was you're Creator made without hands, this is the give away, the clue, that we all share. HE is infinite, as are we, for our planet sits in the infinite Universe, we are living now in the Infinite.

This is the only proof I can show you, the proof that has been all around us for ages, the only thing humans can create without hands, are other humans. This is proof that GOD is self-eternal and made without hands, like you, and the rest of you dip sticks!

Evolution, ha, they'll never make a monkey out of me, and I suggest you hop over this link like the sheep you once were, and become the Man, GOD made you to be.

Who said there was no-one/nothing behind the design? I'm not sure why you're even raising the subject of evolution. Did you read any of the posts on this thread?

My God isn't only a designer, It's a maintainer - ever-changing, ever-expanding, ever-evolving and eternal. My God is Everything Else that isn't me.


So your God is a male deity? Is that what you're saying?

Thanks,
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Who said there was no-one/nothing behind the design? I'm not sure why you're even raising the subject of evolution. Did you read any of the posts on this thread?

My God isn't only a designer, It's a maintainer - ever-changing, ever-expanding, ever-evolving and eternal. My God is Everything Else that isn't me.


So your God is a male deity? Is that what you're saying?

Thanks,
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I was just concurring with you on the topic of GOD by comparing that there is always Someone behind whatever design.

And yes, GOD is a male, why would HE want to be a woman?

Adam birthed woman, male or female one had to be first in creation, so it makes sense that its Adam/male, this is why we see men always protecting their women, we are like a parent to woman, woman are like our child its in our DNA, men are all Adam's. And GOD made Adam in HIS image.

God is androgynous. I AM is the union of the feminine and the masculine.

sHe is the dream of all lesser creatures, those in the underworlds before the Veil is dropped.

The veil is the division of unity of all things, but also of male and female.

The reunification is the wedding - the removal of the veil.

For third density soul inhabited bioforms, this translates to true androgyny. i.e. not the androgyny of the Lemurians, who were an experiment.

I was just concurring with you on the topic of GOD by comparing that there is always Someone behind whatever design.

And yes, GOD is a male, why would HE want to be a woman?

Adam birthed woman, male or female one had to be first in creation, so it makes sense that its Adam/male, this is why we see men always protecting their women, we are like a parent to woman, woman are like our child its in our DNA, men are all Adam's. And GOD made Adam in HIS image.

To me, God is Everything Else which isn't Me, so it has to be genderless unless I choose to attribute a gender to It.

This is a tough concept for humans to understand...a real, energetic, intelligent, interractive Force which doesn't have a personality (because it's ever-changing), but DOES have a preference (for Life Itself).

Why would God limit Itself to any one anything, most particularly a gender?

I presume you are referencing the Bible when you quote God making us in his image? I'm afraid I don't believe in such a God.

The Aether Physics Model is holistic and shows, in no uncertain terms, that all of creation comes from the same source and is equivalent in hierarchy. There is no one thing 'better than' anything else in this Universe.

Nature knows everything needs everything to maintain the perfect symbiosis of life.

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Has anyone on this thread read the Matrix 5 series of books put out by Leading Edge Research Group.

www.trufax.org

The series of books explain a great deal about the nature of the galaxy, our reason for having the 3-d experience, the dualistic nature of the 3-d experience and just what god is.

This information is given not from a techical, physics explanation. But from an observational perspective, based on observations and interactions while in an out of body state.

I believe all of us search for that absolute proof that god exists. We feel it and if the feeling is strong enough, we proceed to use science and logic to prove it out. Especially if the person comes from or is drawn to science.

The science person has a hard time accepting the findings of an out of body direct experience person. Which is understandable as there is no way to communicate undeniably something that can only be confirmed by internal searching.

There in lies the majic and nature of this galaxy game. It is designed to keep spirits wrapped up in the game. Looking to understand the galaxy and the workings of the bodies we incarnate in to precise detail. Along with that comes polarity plays such as might makes right and using technical knowledge and devious ways to subjogate other
spirits.

The flaw with the technical perspective, is the viewpoint is coming from and filtered through the incarnation's (body)perspective. The actual animating source (your god) perspective does not reqiure the technical knowledge to create or move about. The only reqiurement here is a matter of will. A small glimpse of what your higher self (God) is capable of is available in the Out of Body State.

Just thought I would get on this thread to add a little different thought on how you might go about gaining a greater perspective on just what god is.

William

"belief: Whatever an individual is willing to accept without direct verification by experience
or without the support of evidence, resulting in assumption which is taken as a basis for action or non-action.

Beliefs are tools for social conditioning, rather than expressions of inner realization or universal truth."

Occult science recognises Seven Cosmic Elements -- four entirely physical, and the fifth (Ether) semi-material, as it will become visible in the air towards the end of our Fourth Round, to reign supreme over the others during the whole of the Fifth. The remaining two are as yet absolutely beyond the range of human perception. These latter will, however, appear as presentments during the 6th and 7th Races of this Round, and will become known in the 6th and 7th Rounds respectively. These seven elements with their numberless Sub-Elements (far more numerous than those known to Science) are simply conditional modifications and aspects of the ONE and only Element. This latter is not Ether, not even Âkâsha, but the Source of these.

First, a brief intro. My name is Jack Littleton. Donald Scott was kind enough to allow me to quote him on the Plasma page of my website, which otherwise deals with the "UFO"/UAP mystery. That's right, "flying saucers". I was also asked to phone David Talbott, but was unable to accomodate that request at that time, which I somewhat regret (but I'm an overly cautious guy). I had a wonderful friend, now deceased, who had been involved in many interesting things and attended the briefing on "The Roswell Incident" (in the public vernacular). If not for him, I would have no particular interest in the topic (any more than any other Joe Wine Cooler who had just seen something on "In Search Of...").

Why Nobody Cares About Plasma

I'm extremely impressed with all of the EU scientists. I don't have the scientific background to offer an opinion on whether these theories will be proven correct. Many factors suggest that they might. Unfortunately, these factors have implications for national security and, probably, current intelligence operations. There's a very good reason that nobody cares about plasma.

The British Ministry of Defence has released documents stating that they feel the UFO mystery is solved! Let me say that again. The British government believes the UFO mystery is solved! You probably saw it on the evening news or read it in the paper, right? No? How is that possible? How could a mystery that everybody loves be almost totally ignored by the mainstream media? That seems highly, almost extraordinarily improbable. It makes no sense. Or does it?

The general public gets much of its scientific opinion from sci-fi writers (fiction). Every belief in this area (telepathics, abduction, flying saucers and little green men) began first in fiction. This can be easily demonstrated. The British MoD says that UFOs are bouyant charged plasmas, though this is unproven. But nobody cares. Why? Because public opinion is still based on 1930s sci-fi (and stuff from the fifties). The MoD release (aka 'The Condign Report') should have generated unprecedented publicity for the EU scientific effort. Plasma scientists should have been appearing on every morning news show. They didn't make those appearances. Nodody wanted to hear about it. But is there more to it than that?

I believe there is very limited public awareness of this major revision of our understanding of the universe because certain elements wish to keep this somewhat low-key. As a civilian I can only guess about the motivations behind this -- and I firmly believe that they are absolutely proper and definitely in the public interest. However, I should point out that the solution to the UFO/flying saucer mystery is an unprecedented publicity coup. You can't buy that kind of access to the general public (though a government could engineer such access if they chose to do so). I have to assume that it is not being exploited for reasons that are "more important than the science" (and must remain unknown, probably at some expense to the science). But these reasons are powerful, tangible, and probably not something to speculate too deeply about.

I think the reason why they continue to blatently ignore and shun the EU stuff is because of its simple implications..

If Earth is NOT an electrically neutral body.. if the space surrounding Earth is not electrically neutral iether.. then it becomes a question of, "Hey, we are surrounded by potential energy! Is there anyway we can tap this almost limitless supply of energy?"

I personally believe this links back into Nikola Tesla, and his research as an electrical alchemist of sorts. This man practically invented our modern era, and all his inventions share a common thread, that of electricity, and if you take the time to examine the list, you begin to get the impression this guy knew more than he is given credit for. One has to ask why he is not paraded as a modern day hero like Einstein or Newton, when his inventions and discoveries encircle the globe!

So what it comes down to in my opinion, is energy. If you control the energy supply, you can control mankind. And there ARE people in control of this planet, and they do not want to let it go.. because as soon as energy becomes free and plentiful.. our civilization is going to be propelled into a new era altogether!

The public doesn't care about the Electric Universe or plasma because no one has made it interesting to them. Scientists are interested in science. The public doesn't care. No one has told them why they should care. At the same time, everybody likes a great mystery, such as "flying saucers". Everybody. The British MoD has handed a golden opportunity to the EU scientists to dazzle the public with a publicity bonanza. This is not something that could happen (like free energy); this did happen -- and nobody among the EU scientists did anything about it. Talk about a puzzling situation...

I don't think the EU team are stupid enough to get tangled up with UFO's.. it would be a disaster waiting to happen.

You've probably exactly stated the error on the part of EU scientists, which was a publicity blunder. You probably are not aware that the British Ministry of Defence has concluded that "UFOs" (UAP) are bouyard charged plasmas, a rare but natural phenomenon. This should have been an astounding revelation to the general public, but it went nowhere. Nobody stood up to say why this was significant. So, why would the EU scientists be afraid to engage in a discussion of a naturally-occuring plasma phenomonen?

On the other hand, you could have a valid point. The politics within places such as Los Alamos could be so intimidating that anything - even the conclusions of our closest ally, Great Britain - could turn opinion within that elite community against the EU crowd, just when they're beginning to make some headway. I have no way of knowing this, but fear of losing small gains is a good theory for the silence. Ironic, but it does make sense.

I understand where you're coming from. Its interesting the plasma link.. i have seen plasma orbs in the sky on several occassions, very beautiful indeed

If i were in the position of the EU team, i would be VERY careful about engaging into something like this. I don't want to sound paranoid, but i don't trust the MoD for one second, and anything they put out could be some form of bait or psychological warfare operation. Its a gamble. One i would personally not engage in, but im just a bit conspiracy mad

Whilst im sure the EU theory could definitely be applied here, i think its greatest strength so far has been to remain detached, yet focused, and this gives great credit to the theory and those researching it. Members of the public who randomly come across the theory will be impressed by its ability to make great predictions in the cosmological field, and successful ones, and also the ability to explain many "mysteries" in space that the standard model fails to do.

I don't disagree with anything in your post. Caution is clearly the direction that has been chosen. In theory, this should be the wisest course. Unfortunately, I think we're heading into an era of uncertainty that will force the issue sooner than it might otherwise progress. Specifically, I'm speaking of our space program and some very real threats over the next few decades. I don't know if there is the luxury of caution. When people get scared (say, of an approaching asteroid), they will turn to whomever they trust with their lives and money. In the case of Apophis (which may turn out to be a big nothing, but there is still some doubt), this is a very short window of opportunity for "new theories". I'm not paranoid either, but I've never before seen news coverage (mainstream media) of something that was over 20 years in the future. Suddenly, we seem to have a space program that is shifting into high gear. I draw no conclusions, but it's worth paying attention.

The release of 'The Condign Report' (by MoD) has to be viewed from every possible angle. (I've gone over those in my blog, but I won't ask you to read anything - you're welcome . I think we're in for an interesting few decades.