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Message Subject I JUST SAW A VISION OF JESUS RIDING UPON A WHITE HORSE
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"To the Hindus the sacred celestial spot, the province of the creator-king, was the place of "supreme rest," called also "the motionless site," described as "a Spot blazing with splendor...and which subsistsmotionless." Thus the sun god Surya "stands firmly on this safe resting place." Surya, states the Sanskrit authority V.S. Agrawala, "is himself at rest, being the immovable center of his system." Just as the Egyptian and Mesopotamian sun gods "rise and set" in one place, Surya occupies samanam dhama--"the same place of rising and setting." For the words translated as "rising" and "setting" to possess any intelligible meaning, one must refer to a phase of brightening followed by a phase of dimming in a daily cycle.
Another name for the stationary sun, according to Agrawala, is Prajapati. "The sun in the center is Prajapati: he is the horse that imparts movement to everything."
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Oh, this is just refering to the seat which is held by "The One", which just happens to be right next door to our Creator at the center of the "spheres". Therefore, this "sun" never rises or sets due to his relative position in the entierty of Creation, at the center by our Creator. They (He/She) are his adoptive parents as he was abandoned by his original etheral parents during the rebelllion of old.



"The motionless Surya and Prajapati compare with the light of Brahma, called the "true sun." This is the ancient sun, the texts say, which "after having risen thence upwards ... rises and sets no more. It remains alone in the center." Here, too, center and summit are synonymous. Brahma, observes Rene Guenon, is "the pivot around which the world accomplishes it revolution, the immutable center which directs and regulates cosmic movement."
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Right, the "son", once he "rises upwards" i.e. travels that lonely road through time to be prepared for such a position, then "rises and sets" no more, as his travels have ended in that seat described above by nis new "Parents". All other "suns" still rise and set due their relative position to the center, as all things "revolve" around our Creator Parents and hence the new "son".


Moreover, this stationary and axial character of the greatest gods seems to be common to all of the primary celestial figures in Hindu myth, with its diverse pantheon gathered from so many cultural traditions. The god Varuna, "seated in the midst of heaven," is the "Recumbent," and called the "axis of the universe." "Firm is the seat of Varuna," declares one of the Vedic hymns. In him "all wisdom centres, as the nave is set within the wheel." One of Varuna's forms is Savitar, the "impeller." While the rest of the universe revolves, the impeller stands firm. "Firm shalt thou stand, like Savitar desirable."
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Yeah, same picture, and some do "see" this guy as being the "saviour", although that's not EXACTLY the correct picture as all he did was "open the door". Everyone is STILL required to WALK through that door. So, think of him as the great "door opener". peace

Oh, too, what he does and has become is "pivotal" to the stability of the Creation in general due the very "innoculative" aspect of what he represents. For more, read here:

[link to z14.invisionfree.com]

I think I covered that aspect of the Creation there. If not, just pick another one that I wrote. peace


"Also occupying the stationary center is the popular god Vishnu--who takes a firm stand in that resting place in the sky." The location is the celestial pole, called "the exalted seat of Vishnu, round which the starry spheres forever wander." Vishnu is the polar sun or central fire: "Fiery indeed is the name of this steadfast god," states one Vedic text."
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Yup, this "guy" has LOTS of VERY close friends that live VERY close by, where "the starry spheres (gods) forever wander". hf

Vishnu I'm sure is along the same lines as Pahana etc.



"To the Buddhists this is the center of the cosmic wheel, the throne of the Buddha himself. It is acalatthana, the "unmoving site," or the "unconquerable seat of firm séance." Thus, as noted by Coomaraswamy, the Buddha throne crowned the world axis."
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Yup, the "Kingdom that never ends". It's "unmoving" due to the "innoculation" those living there have gotten in regard to "evil". For the most part, this place is "Watcher Central", where those looking to "hear" the thoughts of our Creator might come for occasional assistance in their duties looking after family maturing here in these realms.


"According to ancient Chinese astronomy the revered Emperor on High, prototype of kings, stood at the celestial pole. Chinese astrologers, according to Gustav Schlegel, regarded the polar god as "the Arch-Premier ... the most venerated of all the celestial divinities. In fact the Pole star, around which the entire firmament appears to turn, should be considered as the Sovereign of the Sky." It was thus proclaimed that the celestial pole was the seat of the supreme ruler Shang-ti, mythically, the first king of a great dynasty in the remote past. His seat was "the Pivot," and all the heavens turned upon his exclusive power.
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Right, the "first" in the line of many others who have "supplanted" the rebellious rulers of old. That's why he is called "The One", the only one capable of setting such high numbers here in suffering central while retaining the ability to Love, the "greatest" miracle known in these parts, Loving those who TRULY HATE the One doing the Loving.



Raised to a first principle, the polar power became the mystic Tao, the motor of the Cosmos. The essential idea is contained in the Chinese word for Tao, which combines the sign for "to stand still" with the sign for "to go" and "head" The Tao is the Unmoved Mover, the supreme ruler, who "goes," or "moves" while yet remaining in one place--revealing a striking correspondence with the images of the polar power in other lands.
Chinese sources proclaim the Tao to be the "light of heaven" and "the heart of heaven." "Action is reversed into non-action," states Jung. "Everything peripheral is subordinated to the command of the centre." Thus the Tao, in the words of Erwin Pousselle, rules the "golden center, which is the Axis of the World."
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The "first principle" is that which I was describing above, the Loving of those who HATE One. And one is not "raised" to such things, they "climb" to such things as stated in an earlier description. Yes, the "Heart" of Heaven, or the "Golden Heart" or the "Sacred Heart". That's why it was stated of Goddess Venus, that she was the "Whore with the Golden Heart", as she was the other part of the Golden King with the Golden Heart. What, you expected something else? hf


"In the Persian Zend Avesta the creator-king Ahura Mazda rules from atop the world axis, the fixed station "around which the many stars revolve." Iranian cosmology, as reported by Leopold de Saussure, esteemed the celestial pole as the center and summit of heaven, where resided Kevan, the sovereign power of heaven, called "the Great One in the middle of the sky." Throughout the ancient Near East, according to the comprehensive research of H. P. L'Orange, the "King of the Universe" appears as a central sun, "the Axis and the Pole of the World."
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Yup, same picture with a varient on "the Great One".aka "The One". Same guy. In Black Elk's vision he's noted in appearance to be "rainbow colored", i.e. the "full spectrum" of LOVE (mixes to white).



"These archaic traditions can help us re-interpret the images of the sun god kept alive by Greek and Roman symbolists. In astrological representations, the primeval "sun" occupies the central, axial position while the other planets or stars revolve around him. The definitive celestial profile of Helios is as Basileus, the Royal Sun, recognized by Franz Cumont as the prototype of terrestrial kings or princes surrounded by their guards. In the time of the Roman emperor Nero, the sun-god was still remembered as the axis, the genius loci, the center of the cosmos, and was presented as such in astrological depictions, with the emperor himself serving as the terrestrial image of the original sun god.

It is significant too that, as noted by John Perry (Lord of the Four Quarters), the Etruscans--predecessors of the Romans--claimed there was one supreme deity, held to be the axial "Pole" Star."
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Yeah, "The Lord of the Spirits" is another name, but it all points to the same guy, "The One" of "Royal" descent, i.e. born of Isis etc. But still, he's NOT there simply due the etheral womb he popped from contrary to the extreme error proffered here by the so called "elite". rolleyes

And look, the reason all the Roman's etc etc etc have "copied" this meme was ALWAYS hoping to do what had ALWAYS been done to this "guy", to STEAL what rightfully BELONGED to HIM. That's been going on for AGES now at this point.


"Amongst Finno Ugric peoples, the supreme ruler of the sky is Ukko. As stated in the Finnish Kalevala the seat of Ukko was at the Pole. And this assertion, according to the prominent chronicler Uno Holmberrg, was part of a pervasive tradition of the creator-king seated atop the world pole."
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Same picture. Black Elk saw him seated atop his "Mountain".

[link to z14.invisionfree.com]


"A remarkable counterpart is provided by the Ashanti of Ghana, who remembered the old sun god as "the dynamic center of the Universe, from which lines of force radiate to all quarters of the heaven." Thus, according to the Ashanti, this former sun god is "the center around which everything revolves."
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Same picture, the "son/sun" returns "home", "transplanted" from "the bottom of the Mountain to the top".

It's a pretty sucky gig when you're the poor guy doing the climbing. hf


"In southern Peru the Inca Yupanqui raised a temple at Cuzco to the creator god who was superior to the sun we know. Unlike the solar orb, he was able to "rest" and "to light the world from one spot." As the pioneering Mesoamerican scholar, Zelia Nuttal, noted many years ago, the only reasonable position in the sky for fulfilling this requirement is the celestial Pole. "It is an extremely important and significant fact," writes Nuttall, "that the principal doorway of this temple opened to the north." (Since the north celestial pole is not visible from Cuzco, 14° below the equator, Nuttall assumed that this tradition of a polar sun was carried southward.)"
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Superior to the "sun" we know is superior to the "old sun", aka, the father of this "guy" and ultimately his usurping brother "Lucifer". Yup, FAR superior to that JERK. hf

Yes, the Creaion can ONLY be stabilized from the CENTER thereby BLOCKING any future "top down" rebelllions.

And yes, the number 14 is this guys "lot in life". peace


"Cottie Burland tells us that, among the Mexicans, "the nearest approach to the idea of a true universal god was Xiuhtecuhtli, recalled as the Old, Old One who enabled the first ancestors to rise from barbarism. Xiuhtecuhtli appears as the Central Fire and "the heart of the Universe." "Xiuhtecuhtli was a very special deity. He was not only the Lord of Fire which burnt in front of every temple and in the middle of every hut in Mexico, but also Lord of the Pole Star. He was the pivot of the universe and one of the forms of the Supreme Deity." An apparent counterpart of this central fire is the Maya creator god Huracan, the "Heart of Heaven" at the celestial pole"
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NOT! They're refering to Lucifer, the greatest galactic JERK this Creation has ever known. Think "usurper" in the above picture. That was the usual "Jesus the Christ" nonsense utilized to keep those poor people in bondage to his nonsense.


"The Pawnee locate the "star chief of the skies" at the pole. He is the "star that stands still." Of this supreme power they say, "Its light is the radiance of the Sun god shining through."
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Yup, same picture. Those American Indians, ever the faithful holders of the TRUTH. hf

No wonder Lucifer's mininons just HAD to exterminate them and brainwash them to his own crap. rolleyes

Ya know, I think I see a continuity here. hf
 
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